What did you learn during the match process?

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It definitely happens in academia. Sure it doesn't happen a ton, but it does happen. Schools will do a lot to win over the biggest and brightest faculty.

Oh, definitely (it happened at my grad school while I was around). I was just pointing out essentially exactly what you said--that I wouldn't see it happening in the current economic climate unless the person being wooed was one of the biggest and brightest.
 
After reading this, you give me hope and this is exactly my thoughts that I am having right now as I did not match. This was my first time going through the match process,...and now with my school demanding me to go through phase II, I have no idea what kind of training goals I am looking for during internship, and I think that came across in my interviews. Do you think waiting the year and accomplishing other things, such as completion of the dissertation and possibly getting my LCPC would be beneficial if I were not to place during phase II, which I think personally I would benefit from taking a break and figuring out what it is I want in an internship.
If you don't know what you want with some certitude, then I think it is definitely worth taking a year to complete the dissertation, LPC, etc. You will completely change your trajectory in terms of interviews and will be a much more convincing candidate if you know what you are looking for in a clear and concise way.
 
Thanks for the feedback! I agree and as I am finishing cover letters for phase II, I still feel as if I am not sure of what I am looking for... I need this year to focus on what I want and go for it, which ultimately will make me a good fit for many programs..
 
Could those of you who went on interviews list the most common and most unusual questions you were asked during internship interviews? It would also be helpful if you listed the type of site where the question was asked (e.g., counseling center, community mental health, prison, VA, medical center, etc.). Thank you!!!
 
You also wrote 'feedbag' instead of feedback. Made me imagine being force fed hard to stomach criticism.

She also wrote clinical death and breadth....now that just threw me off completely.

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Could those of you who went on interviews list the most common and most unusual questions you were asked during internship interviews? It would also be helpful if you listed the type of site where the question was asked (e.g., counseling center, community mental health, prison, VA, medical center, etc.). Thank you!!!

I had 8 interviews altogether. I interviewed at 3 college counseling centers, a regional medical center with a large psych program, an independent clinic, a state hospital and a consortium between a community mental health center and a state hospital and finally a community mental health center .

Every site asked me "Why here. Why do you want to come here?" Every site asked me about how I have handled problematic therapy clients or therapy where the process did occur according to my theoretical orientation. Two of the CC sites, asked me to describe a case where therapy did not work out as I had planned.and why that happened. Every site asked me about my dissertation topic and progress on the dissertation. Every site asked me about my comfort and experience working with persons from different cultures than my own. Every site except the state hospital asked me about my supervision experiences both positive and negative and what my expectations for supervision would be.

At one site in Utah I was asked about my comfort level and knowledge of the Latter Day Saint Church. At 4 sites I was asked questions about my approach to psychological assessment. At every site except the private clinic, I was given a very brief synopsis and asked to do a case conceptualization and treatment plan on the spot. One community mental health center asked me how I felt about collaborative documentation (writing progress notes in concert with the client). The state hospital asked me if I thought forensic populations and state hospital populations were different or similar. The state hospital also asked me what my ideal psychological assessment battery would be and why. Each college counseling center asked me how I would deal with a suicidal student.
 
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I applied last year and didn't match in either Phase 1 or 2. I got a decent research job at a local med school, reapplied this year and matched to my top choice at a very competitive site. I also know I was a top choice for other very competitive sites, so I feel like what I had going worked for me this year. I wish someone had told me the things I learned this year, rather than having to learn it them by applying twice. Hope someone out there is helped by this. Here;s some of my thoughts.

1. Apply to a lot of sites. I know, it's expensive. I was lucky to have a well paying job to help finance the applications and (especially) the travel to lots of sites. Look at the data. If you think the optimal number of applications is 10-15, fine, apply to that many sites. But if you want to match, you will apply to 15-20 sites. I applied to 20 sites and interviewed at 11. I intentionally looked for places that received <100 applications the year before and applied to them as safety sites if I did not get interviews at the big name awesome sites. Luckily (not for my wallet though) I got interviews at lots. Oh! And I had mixed results applying to the same sites both years - of the three sites I interviewed at last year, only one interviewed me again this year. However, I did get some interviews at sites that I did not interview at the year prior.

2. Fit, fit, fit. Tailor your materials to that site, and demonstrate the fit. It may seem obvious to you, but its probably not to people reading your application. I think you have to be really obvious and beat people over the head with this. If it's an academic medical center, talk about you desire to have a career in an academic medical center, how your experience makes you the perfect fit for an academic medical center, etc.. If you say want to work in a community mental health clinic, don't apply to forensic hospitals and wonder why you didn't get invited for an interview. As someone else mentioned, there is a degree of artful manipulation to be achieved here, and it takes practice. Read the brochures for sites, then mention the things the are in the brochure that you have experience with. For example, if offers say, experience in evidence based treatments, mention in your cover letter all of the EBTs you have experience with. This will help demonstrate fit.

3. Speak to your strengths in your essay - discuss how the site can help you grow in the interview. Tell sites what you bring to the table, how you, your unique little self, can make their internship better. But don't neglect to identify areas (populations, content area/disorder/treatments, settings) that you don't have or could use more experience with, especially on the interview, as this question will likely come up.

4. Make progress on your dissertation. My dissertation was nearly done this year and I had preliminary results and their implications that I could talk about on my interviews. Maybe this is more relevant for research/academically oriented sites, but this was a definite strength I had going for me this time versus last year when I had just proposed before sending out my applications.

5. Apply to site where people from you program have gone/interviewed/are on faculty- they know your training and known quantities are safer. I did get some interviews to places where nobody from my program has gone, but I attribute those to name recognition of my advisor and the fact that these were smaller, less competitive sites.

6. Be personal in your essay! I really went balls to the wall in my application with no fear this year. Last year I was scared and played it safe. I thought, what's the worst thing that can happen, not matching? I had many, many people tell me how much they enjoyed reading my essay. It was a bit provocative, and I feedback from my DCT and advisor was hesitant. But I went for it, and it made a huge difference in my opinion. Some people I interviewed with said things like, "I knew after reading your essay I had to bring you in for an interview." This is the reaction you want from Essay 1.

7. Have therapy/assessment cases in your back pocket to discuss. Also discuss your supervision/supervisors. Be prepared to answer hard questions like: what is something you struggled with?

8. Have a life outside of grad school...I also got positive feedback about things that are not psychology related that I eventually want to integrate into my clinical work that are novel and interesting.

9. Work your contacts. Go to the internship panels, seminars, etc at your favorite conference. ABCT is a good one for this.

10. Read into the meaning of certain phrases - Scientist-Practitioner = Ph.D. clinical students apply here please; Practitioner-Scholar = Psy.D. students welcome here, etc. There are more but I can't think of others off the top of my head right now.

11. Mock interviews. Video/audio record them. Ask for feedback.

12. Don't go it alone. This process requires community. Be it here, in your program, or elsewhere, reach out. I didn't do that enough the first time and suffered as a result.
 
Hi guys,

So I am still in the early stages of my doctoral program (1st year), but I feel it's never too early to start thinking about internship sites. Since you all mentioned your experiences about matching, etc., I figured I get some of your thoughts on this...

I am very interested in academia/research and have been published (from a mentor who is well-known in my research area) and presented a poster at APA prior to my acceptance into my program. However, it seems my program lacks the amount of research productivity than what I am used to (only got into 1 program, but my interest matched well with one of the professors). What are some things I could do now to set myself up well when I apply for research related internship sites? My current mentor is looking out for me and basically told me that I need to maintain what I did before my acceptance, but I'm not sure how to go about getting published, etc.

This may be a really naive question, but it's been kind of worrying me.
 
I'm not really sure what to tell you, other than to make sure and do high quality research and write it up.

Beyond that, we can give you vague notions of things but the specificity will really have to come from your advisor. Presumably, even if he/she isn't actively doing research he/she was at some point. Without working in your research area, at your school, I'm not sure folks here are likely going to be able to provide much in the way of advice. Read articles, think about ideas, run studies and write up results....that is the same anywhere. Beyond that, it really depends on the specifics of your situation. I'd discuss it with your advisor if you are that concerned - if they are somehow completely unfamiliar with publishing (unlikely if you are at a legit program), maybe they can either set you up with a "secondary mentor" of sorts.
 
Yeah I second what Ollie said. Not sure what you mean "lacks productivity" as that could mean a lot of things.

You can always run your own studies as long as your mentor signs off. If your mentor does not have their own research program in place to give you some other opportunities to present/publish, that does make it harder. But you could do things like literature reviews and meta analyses in this situaion on top of your thesis and dissertation.
 
I'm in a program that overall isn't as productive as I'd like it to be (minus a few faculty), and I'm applying to research-focused internships next year. My advice is to collaborate with as many people as possible. If your mentor lets you work with other profs, do that, and/or collaborate with other grad students in your lab. If other profs don't share your interests, try to think of a project that could combine theirs with yours. Get RAs to help you with data collection, lit searches, etc, to streamline the process. Form your own projects (faculty never complain if you do most of the work and they get authorship 😉), join others' projects, collect datasets that can be turned into multiple papers, etc. Also, always try to have something at every stage of the process at some point. If you get assigned papers in class, try to write something that you can publish (like a lit review).

Oh, and of course: write, write, write. The key to publication is persistence, IMO.
 
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Good advice cara and and I agree.

One other point - I just want to emphasize the ongoing writing. Early in graduate school, you might not be publishing much, but if you really want to have a research/academia career, you need to show some consistency. It is a good reason to have a few irons in the fire when it comes to pubs and presentations each year. I remember getting the advice that you never want to have a year go by without at a minimum a pub and presentation, as it might look like a gap on your CV. I've followed that advice and ended up competitive - and really you'd like to stockpile some more pubs if you are able to.

So definitely collaborate, write, present, and keep things rolling. Even though I did most of my publishing via my program mentor, I did some on the side with practicum advisors that had data I was interested in. You may do some extra work or some things you aren't 100% excited about, but it pays off in the long run when it comes time to look for jobs.
 
I do have some publications in review (from my past research experiences), which is good, but I know this won't be enough. Currently my mentor is not doing much research, but I will be conducting a research a project during my second year (as part of my program requirements), so I hope this will lead to presentations/pubs.

Thanks again, guys. This is all very good advice. Appreciate it!!
 
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