What DO schools are lecture based, non-PBL?

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Hi guys!

I was just wondering if anyone knew which schools were more lecture based, non-PBL? I'm really a traditional learner and think the PBL aspect is sort of a faculty cop-out. I've taken a look at the 2009 Osteopathic College Book and there really isn't too much specifics about it. I was hoping I could find out a little more before actually going to the interviews. Any thoughts?

Thanks!
 
Hi guys!

I was just wondering if anyone knew which schools were more lecture based, non-PBL? I'm really a traditional learner and think the PBL aspect is sort of a faculty cop-out. I've taken a look at the 2009 Osteopathic College Book and there really isn't too much specifics about it. I was hoping I could find out a little more before actually going to the interviews. Any thoughts?

Thanks!

You may have just slapped the faces of a lot of PBL students. There is/are some proven success/advantages to PBL, so be careful insulting a modality that others have CHOSEN to use over the traditional model.

Several schools are strictly PBL or have strict PBL programs. LECOM-B is only PBL, LECOM-E has a PBL track, and I believe NYCOM has a PBL track, too. I think there are a few others with PBL tracks, if not everyone admitted using PBL.

Many schools are actively trying to integrate PBL into their curriculum. At some schools, it feels like a sincere effort to improve material delivery, while at others it kinda seems like they want to hang out with the cool PBL kids. I can't remember which schools are beginning to integrate PBL, but some others might be able to help me with the specifics.
 
Hi guys!

I was just wondering if anyone knew which schools were more lecture based, non-PBL? I'm really a traditional learner and think the PBL aspect is sort of a faculty cop-out. I've taken a look at the 2009 Osteopathic College Book and there really isn't too much specifics about it. I was hoping I could find out a little more before actually going to the interviews. Any thoughts?

Thanks!

That's funny. For schools that are not PBL, I specifically look for ones that have the most conducive environment for skipping lectures.
 
Definitely not trying to slap the PBL format for those who like it, just a personal preference here. I know it's weird 🙂

I've found that some schools just mention PBL in their curriculum description along with the usual integrated systems, early clinical exposure etc.

I guess just knowing which schools were strictly PBL would be helpful.
 
That's an affirmative; PBL is for socialist hippies who like to sleep late. 😀
 
VCOM is SBL with PBL integrated in it!!! a really nice system of putting it all together!!!!

check the school out!! 😀
 
Nearly every school is integrating PBL to some degree in their curriculum. The majority aren't full PBL. They'll make it pretty obvious if they are full PBL. That being said, I think you should at least check it out. As an undergrad, you have no idea what kind of learner you really are. It is just staying in your comfort zone. The advantages far outweigh the disadvantages with PBL. I suspect your viewpoint of it is that you pay a ton of money and then they give you books and you go on your merry way. When it is done properly, it is far from that and is still structured. While lecture based may very well be for you, I still recommend going more indepth and watching a PBL session or two to discover for yourself rather than using preconcieved notions.
 
Nova is lecture based, although rumor has it they're going to change the curriculum next year so who knows! Then again, rumor had it they were going to change our curriculum LAST year so...Actually I think the curriculum WILL be changing next year to goto a more systems based approach and I've heard that it will incorporate more (i.e. ANY) small group learning, but I would not expect full on PBL.

Nate.
 
Nearly every school is integrating PBL to some degree in their curriculum. The majority aren't full PBL. They'll make it pretty obvious if they are full PBL. That being said, I think you should at least check it out. As an undergrad, you have no idea what kind of learner you really are. It is just staying in your comfort zone. The advantages far outweigh the disadvantages with PBL. I suspect your viewpoint of it is that you pay a ton of money and then they give you books and you go on your merry way. When it is done properly, it is far from that and is still structured. While lecture based may very well be for you, I still recommend going more indepth and watching a PBL session or two to discover for yourself rather than using preconcieved notions.


I agree with Mosspah, because I was one of those students who was totally against the who idea of PBL until I actually did some research about it. Now I really want to go to any of the LECOMS because they offer PBL. As you begin to learn more about the schools you will see which ones are for you and which are not which includes the types of curriculum that will work for you. 🙂
 
KCUMB is lecture based in a systems approach for all but six weeks of first year.
 
Western is also a taditional lecture based systems curriculum.
 
WVSOM has both PBL and the traditional SBL. Only about 30-40 students from each class are PBL so most people opted for SBL.
 
MSUCOM is systems-based lecture in contrast to the allopathic school here that is mostly PBL during second year (and some of first year)...
 
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