What EXACTLY is Georgetown SMP

[sbadal2007]

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Hi everyone, Ive been doing a little bit of reading and I was wondering if all you future docs had any opinions on the program and whether or not it is a worhtwhile avenue to pursue.

Thx everyone.

 

[tacrum43]

Hi everyone, Ive been doing a little bit of reading and I was wondering if all you future docs had any opinions on the program and whether or not it is a worhtwhile avenue to pursue.

Thx everyone.

I'm applying for Georgetown's SMP too. It is a program intended (mostly) for applicants who have gotten rejected this past year because of a low GPA. There are several threads about it in the post-bacc forum. Georgetown also has an informative website about it:

http://smp.georgetown.edu/index.htm

 

[DeaconMD04]

I know that Tulane also has a one-year program where you are compared with the medical students. Are there other schools with similar programs?

 

[MD Rapper]

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I know that Tulane also has a one-year program where you are compared with the medical students. Are there other schools with similar programs?

Check out these links:

http://services.aamc.org/postbac/

http://hpap.syr.edu/LISTPB.HTM

 

[sbadal2007]

thanks everyone, I checked out your links 8 I was suprised to see so many programs in my home state, Cali. The thing is, I'm working to bring my gpa up to hopefully a 3.5 science, its fairly lower than that now. So i guess im looking to other options just in case, and Im going to start reviewing for the mcat's this summer with my lil bro whose also studying for sat's, nothin intense just review the stuff I've already done and begin prepping. Thanks for the help everyone, and good luck.

 

[Phil Anthropist]

Hi everyone, Ive been doing a little bit of reading and I was wondering if all you future docs had any opinions on the program and whether or not it is a worhtwhile avenue to pursue.

Thx everyone.

Georgetown's MS in Physiology and Biophysics is one of the most well known and effective of the "special masters programs." It is very expensive, but worth the price if you can afford it. As a special masters program, you take 30+ credits in one year (34, if I remember correctly) and enroll in courses with the medical students. Full-time in grad school is normally 18-24 credits/year, so special masters programs (30-48 credits in one-year) are designed to be very demanding. You are expected to beat the mean on your medical courses. This sounds crazy, but you don't take all the medical school courses with G-Town's MS-1s. Similar programs are available at Boston University and EVMS (in contrast to G-town, these require a thesis but can also be or must be completed in one year). Rosalind Franklin also has its own program (MS in Applied Physiology), but it's best suited for those who wish to matriculate at Rosalind Franklin immediately following the program. The others (e.g., G-town and BU) are better suited for those who want to apply to a broader spectrum of schools.

thanks everyone, I checked out your links 8 I was suprised to see so many programs in my home state, Cali. The thing is, I'm working to bring my gpa up to hopefully a 3.5 science, its fairly lower than that now. So i guess im looking to other options just in case, and Im going to start reviewing for the mcat's this summer with my lil bro whose also studying for sat's, nothin intense just review the stuff I've already done and begin prepping. Thanks for the help everyone, and good luck.

Keep in mind that some of the programs listed on the AAMC site are for career-changers (i.e., little or no prereqs) while others are for applicants needing enrichment/enhancement (i.e., already have all the prereqs). If you are trying to bring up your undergrad bcpm (science) to a 3.5, the G-town program will NOT do this. The reason is that graduate grades are separate from the undergrad bcpm/cume on AMCAS. However, the G-town program can clearly demonstrate your academic capabilities.

I'm applying for Georgetown's SMP too. It is a program intended (mostly) for applicants who have gotten rejected this past year because of a low GPA. There are several threads about it in the post-bacc forum. Georgetown also has an informative website about it:
http://smp.georgetown.edu/index.htm

I agree; the G-town program is best suited for those who have competitive MCAT scores, but low-borderline GPAs.

I know that Tulane also has a one-year program where you are compared with the medical students. Are there other schools with similar programs?

I believe you are referring to the ACP program (Anatomy Certification Program). The program, if I remember correctly, is only one semester but you have the option of taking a neuro class in the spring for no additional cost. The program requires that you've been wait-listed at a US medical school (whether this means allo, osteo, or both, I'm not sure). Tulane also has three 1-year masters programs suitable for those who are trying to improve their academic credentials: MS in (Human?) Genetics, MS in Pharmacology, and MS in Cell and Molecular Biology.

There are other programs similar to G-town that include medical courses with US MD students, if that's what you're asking. The one year programs include G-town MS in Physiology and Biophysics, Boston U MA in Medical Sciences, Rosalind Franklin MS in Applied Physiology, and EVMS MS in Biomedical Sciences. There are other programs that include US MD courses too. Some examples are Marshall's MS in Biomedical Sciences (two years) and UMDNJ-Newark's MS in Biomedical Sciences (1-2, but usually about 1.5). Drexel and Loma Linda have premedical certificates that include medical courses. Drexel's is called the IMS certificate program and Loma Linda's is a biomedical sciences certificate. Osteopathic schools (e.g., PCOM, LECOM, KCUMB) and universities without medical schools (e.g., Colorado State, Duquesne, American U) also have enrichment programs.

This is just a sampling of such programs. There are MANY more. Take MD Rapper's advice:

Check out the post-bac forum if you're interested in these programs. There is a wealth of information there!

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[sbadal2007]

wow phil...that was really informative...I should have been clearer in my post. I am a 2nd year undergrad, currently completing a molecular bio major so I am in the process of completing my med school pre-reqs, I did pretty bad in some early pre-req classes, partly due to the fact I wasn't sure if I wanted to do med school, but this quarter things are turning around and my work ethic/motivation is turning around. If all goes well I hope to graduate with a 3.5 BCPM and apply at the end of my senior year, taking the MCAT in the april of my senior year. I will score above a 35 on this test, come hell or highwater. In addition, I feel my EC's are solid with alot of options on the table so I guess now just to pray and work hard. I really want to go to a cali school but I'm worried my GPA will keep me out, and the post bacc programs are something im just scratching the surface on in terms of understanding my options and chances.

 

[Revolution #9]

wow phil...that was really informative...I should have been clearer in my post. I am a 2nd year undergrad, currently completing a molecular bio major so I am in the process of completing my med school pre-reqs, I did pretty bad in some early pre-req classes, partly due to the fact I wasn't sure if I wanted to do med school, but this quarter things are turning around and my work ethic/motivation is turning around. If all goes well I hope to graduate with a 3.5 BCPM and apply at the end of my senior year, taking the MCAT in the april of my senior year. I will score above a 35 on this test, come hell or highwater. In addition, I feel my EC's are solid with alot of options on the table so I guess now just to pray and work hard. I really want to go to a cali school but I'm worried my GPA will keep me out, and the post bacc programs are something im just scratching the surface on in terms of understanding my options and chances.

Don't be certain that you will score 35+. I know plenty of people (ok, really just 3) that scored over 1400 on the SAT, studied very hard for the MCAT, and scored at or below 30. But shoot for the stars and hope for the moon. Good luck 👍

 

[sbadal2007]

yea revolution that was my mind set shoot for the stars, thanks everyone

 

[DeaconMD04]

Georgetown's MS in Physiology and Biophysics is one of the most well known and effective of the "special masters programs." It is very expensive, but worth the price if you can afford it. As a special masters program, you take 30+ credits in one year (34, if I remember correctly) and enroll in courses with the medical students. Full-time in grad school is normally 18-24 credits/year, so special masters programs (30-48 credits in one-year) are designed to be very demanding. You are expected to beat the mean on your medical courses. This sounds crazy, but you don't take all the medical school courses with G-Town's MS-1s. Similar programs are available at Boston University and EVMS (in contrast to G-town, these require a thesis but can also be or must be completed in one year). Rosalind Franklin also has its own program (MS in Applied Physiology), but it's best suited for those who wish to matriculate at Rosalind Franklin immediately following the program. The others (e.g., G-town and BU) are better suited for those who want to apply to a broader spectrum of schools.

Keep in mind that some of the programs listed on the AAMC site are for career-changers (i.e., little or no prereqs) while others are for applicants needing enrichment/enhancement (i.e., already have all the prereqs). If you are trying to bring up your undergrad bcpm (science) to a 3.5, the G-town program will NOT do this. The reason is that graduate grades are separate from the undergrad bcpm/cume on AMCAS. However, the G-town program can clearly demonstrate your academic capabilities.

I agree; the G-town program is best suited for those who have competitive MCAT scores, but low-borderline GPAs.

I believe you are referring to the ACP program (Anatomy Certification Program). The program, if I remember correctly, is only one semester but you have the option of taking a neuro class in the spring for no additional cost. The program requires that you've been wait-listed at a US medical school (whether this means allo, osteo, or both, I'm not sure). Tulane also has three 1-year masters programs suitable for those who are trying to improve their academic credentials: MS in (Human?) Genetics, MS in Pharmacology, and MS in Cell and Molecular Biology.

There are other programs similar to G-town that include medical courses with US MD students, if that's what you're asking. The one year programs include G-town MS in Physiology and Biophysics, Boston U MA in Medical Sciences, Rosalind Franklin MS in Applied Physiology, and EVMS MS in Biomedical Sciences. There are other programs that include US MD courses too. Some examples are Marshall's MS in Biomedical Sciences (two years) and UMDNJ-Newark's MS in Biomedical Sciences (1-2, but usually about 1.5). Drexel and Loma Linda have premedical certificates that include medical courses. Drexel's is called the IMS certificate program and Loma Linda's is a biomedical sciences certificate. Osteopathic schools (e.g., PCOM, LECOM, KCUMB) and universities without medical schools (e.g., Colorado State, Duquesne, American U) also have enrichment programs.

This is just a sampling of such programs. There are MANY more. Take MD Rapper's advice:

👍

Thanks for the info! I appreciate it.

 

[MD Rapper]

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