What Grinds Your Gears

[bfg1997]

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What grinds your gears the most about school/class/apps/anything related?

I'll start with:
I hate when my professor hands my test back upside down like she does to everyone else, and the person sitting next to me immediately asks me what I got. MYDB! It's not a competition (at least to me)

Piggybacking on that, I equally despise when a student will get a stellar grade and walk around the class showing everyone, repeatedly saying his score loud enough for the class to hear.

What grinds your gears?

 

[BigBoss]

The kids that argue with professors in lecture regarding material that the professor is an expert in.


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[bfg1997]

The kids that argue with professors in lecture regarding material that the professor is an expert in.


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Either that or they'll try to persuade the prof to give them back points on a test because "the phrasing was wrong" or "we didn't go over this concept in the lecture enough". Sit down and take the loss lol

 

[Coltuna]

Nursing students complaining (bragging) that they have the "hardest undergrad major."

 

[Conflagration]

I can't stand it when you have one chronic complainer student. They're always the one that says something asinine like "OMG WHY DO WE NEED TO KNOW THIS" and "THIS CLASS IS SO HARD OMG". If the dude spent the time he does complaining on trying to learn the material, he wouldn't have anything to complain about.

The inverse of the chronic complainer is the know-it-all, and I have one in my educational pedagogy class. He feels the need to tell all of us that he was a lawyer so that he can be patted on the head for going into the teaching profession. Homeboy tried to lecture at my prof about her research field, and that was extra cringey for all involved. The woman has a PhD for Christ's sake, no one cares about your insecure self!

 

[bfg1997]

I can't stand it when you have one chronic complainer student. They're always the one that says something asinine like "OMG WHY DO WE NEED TO KNOW THIS" and "THIS CLASS IS SO HARD OMG". If the dude spent the time he does complaining on trying to learn the material, he wouldn't have anything to complain about.

The inverse of the chronic complainer is the know-it-all, and I have one in my educational pedagogy class. He feels the need to tell all of us that he was a lawyer so that he can be patted on the head for going into the teaching profession. Homeboy tried to lecture at my prof about her research field, and that was extra cringey for all involved. The woman has a PhD for Christ's sake, no one cares about your insecure self!

Going on somewhat of a tangent here but when I took Intro to Psych, the teacher was a Ugandan man. Very smart, but had somewhat of an accent that would make it hard to understand him at points. This girl in my class would always interrupt him and attempt to correct his pronunciation. Probably one of the rudest things I've witnessed lol

 

[Conflagration]

Going on somewhat of a tangent here but when I took Intro to Psych, the teacher was a Ugandan man. Very smart, but had somewhat of an accent that would make it hard to understand him at points. This girl in my class would always interrupt him and attempt to correct his pronunciation. Probably one of the rudest things I've witnessed lol

I had a South Korean national for a linear algebra professor, and he might have said some weird stuff and had an accent, but I wasn't so rude that I was going to instigate anything!

I had a girl in high school argue with the teacher about how to pronounce meiosis. For at least 10 minutes. Who the hell cares??? And the teacher was right, too!

 

[Mad Jack]

What really grinded my gears the most back in the day was self-assured, cocky, smug premeds that you knew couldn't hack it and would fail, but acted like they were going to be neurosurgeons from day 1 of undergrad.

 

[bfg1997]

I had a South Korean national for a linear algebra professor, and he might have said some weird stuff and had an accent, but I wasn't so rude that I was going to instigate anything!

I had a girl in high school argue with the teacher about how to pronounce meiosis. For at least 10 minutes. Who the hell cares??? And the teacher was right, too!

Sounds like one of the kids that would always try to get the prof to start talking about his personal life, or his opinion on a matter entirely unrelated to the class in order to derail the lecture

 

[bfg1997]

What really grinded my gears the most back in the day was self-assured, cocky, smug premeds that you knew couldn't hack it and would fail, but acted like they were going to be neurosurgeons from day 1 of undergrad.

I had A&P I with a classmate who was convinced he was going to become a general surgeon, and was very cocky about it. Meanwhile he would fall asleep in class every other lecture. Yeah right So glad I'm almost finished with the weed-out classes

 

[Conflagration]

I had A&P I with a classmate who was convinced he was going to become a general surgeon, and was very cocky about it. Meanwhile he would fall asleep in class every other lecture. Yeah right So glad I'm almost finished with the weed-out classes

Oh, Christ, the future surgeons. It's fine and dandy to have some idea about what you want, but don't tell me in one breath that you want to be a pediatric cardiothoracic surgeon and then act like Jesus Christ Himself is walking on parted waters when the health class prof says there's four chambers in the heart. You'd think a person interested in cardiothoracic surgery would at least Google what's in that cavity.

 

[The Knife & Gun Club]

Ms2 (not practicing yet) here so with a grain of salt...

I despise premed who say they want to do neurosurg. I know people who make it into nsurg, but the vast majority of premeds who say they wanna do this have no clue what they're saying. To me it sounds like saying "I've seen grays anatomy and that seems cool"

 

[The Knife & Gun Club]

Oh, Christ, the future surgeons. It's fine and dandy to have some idea about what you want, but don't tell me in one breath that you want to be a pediatric cardiothoracic surgeon and then act like Jesus Christ Himself is walking on parted waters when the health class prof says there's four chambers in the heart. You'd think a person interested in cardiothoracic surgery would at least Google what's in that cavity.

To this point... people who say pediatric neurosurgery may make my head explode

 

[bfg1997]

Ms2 (not practicing yet) here so with a grain of salt...

I despise premed who say they want to do neurosurg. I know people who make it into nsurg, but the vast majority of premeds who say they wanna do this have no clue what they're saying. To me it sounds like saying "I've seen grays anatomy and that seems cool"

I may be wrong but in my experience the few students I've encountered in my classes (still in a 2 year) or outside of school that say they'd like to become neurosurgeons, or even cardiothoracic, etc are only looking at it from a prestige/salary angle. lmao.

 

[The Knife & Gun Club]

I may be wrong but in my experience the few students I've encountered in my classes (still in a 2 year) or outside of school that say they'd like to become neurosurgeons, or even cardiothoracic, etc are only looking at it from a prestige/salary angle. lmao.

Exactly. The reality of the field is just so massively different from the view as a premed.

On tours/interviews I love asking these kids what the outcomes rates are in neurosurg cases...if they say "awful, and I'm ok with that" is pretty accepting. But that is rarely the answer.

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

Either that or they'll try to persuade the prof to give them back points on a test because "the phrasing was wrong" or "we didn't go over this concept in the lecture enough". Sit down and take the loss lol

I have done this only when the question is actually wrong. As in it was graded incorrectly. If the phrasing was ambiguous, and I just didn't get it, fine. That's on me. If I get it right, and you mark it wrong, that's on you.

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

The kids that argue with professors in lecture regarding material that the professor is an expert in.


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This. Or the guy who gets completely fixated on a single detail of the lecture and tries to get the prof to expand on that minute detail that is irrelevant to anything. Thankfully, most profs seem to shut that down pretty fast.

 

[Coltuna]

Had one guy in a history of literature class who seriously thought he was the god of humor; he constantly interrupted the teacher to tell jokes. Was telling my other friend about this particular kid as we were walking and saw said kid absolutely eat $h*t riding his bicycle. Idk if it was some sort of karma, but I've never laughed so hard in my life then felt so bad for laughing.

 

[dr_kateb]

How much luck/how nice your graduate TAs matter in the grade you get. All I want for Christmas is a nice GTA for next semester. Just one.

And general stupidity. For the first lab of Gen Chem I, I looked through one of my lab partner's calculations, which were completely wrong. I had to explain to him that ice was less dense than water. I know my school isn't the epitome of academic excellence but my opinion of the undergrads here went down the drain.

 

[bfg1997]

How much luck/how nice your graduate TAs matter in the grade you get. All I want for Christmas is a nice GTA for next semester. Just one.

And general stupidity. For the first lab of Gen Chem I, I looked through one of my lab partner's calculations, which were completely wrong. I had to explain to him that ice was less dense than water. I know my school isn't the epitome of academic excellence but my opinion of the undergrads here went down the drain.

What irks me the most is when people just cannot put the effort in. In classes like A&P, you could be a complete dunce and still pass because I believe classes like that are all memorization and pounding words/numbers into your head. I've had classmates tell me before that the class is too difficult and they're not smart enough. They just don't apply themselves and work hard enough imo

 

[Pagan FutureDoc]

When I'm in class or lab all day and my wife has night call

 

[dr_kateb]

What irks me the most is when people just cannot put the effort in. In classes like A&P, you could be a complete dunce and still pass because I believe classes like that are all memorization and pounding words/numbers into your head. I've had classmates tell me before that the class is too difficult and they're not smart enough. They just don't apply themselves and work hard enough imo

Fundamentals of Anatomy is just a lot of material. It's not a premed prereq but I need it for my major. It's a prereq for nursing and pharm and mostly nursing students complain about it. It gets annoying.

 

[bananafish94]

What really grinded my gears the most back in the day was self-assured, cocky, smug premeds that you knew couldn't hack it and would fail, but acted like they were going to be neurosurgeons from day 1 of undergrad.

*pediatric neurosurgeon

 

[Boogy'sChick15]

I had a student a couple years ago in my differential equations class who would always acknowledge every word the professor said. As the professor lectured, she would make sounds like "Uh huh, yeah. Okay....oh okay, I see...." during the entire lecture. It would drive some of us crazy.
Also if you asked the professor a question, she would interrupt his explanation and try to explain it to you herself. Multiple times the professor had to tell her to be quiet so he could finish.

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[altblue]

The long game of catchup I've had to play in a wealthy undergrad with those who were fortunate to come from good high schools and educated households

Not going out much as an extrovert and having little opportunity to get to know some nice and intelligent women, in part due to the disadvantage mentioned before and some very poor time management on my part

It's not all bad though. My stats are fine and I've gotten a good education. I think I have a decent shot of getting into med school and I'm incredibly thankful for that

 

[Gilakend]

I take about 1/2 my classes with PharmD students and many of them will refer to themselves as "future doctors" (which I agree is technically true but still seems misleading) and will commonly wear their white coats to class and around campus for absolutely no reason.

 

[Gilakend]

The long game of catchup I've had to play in a wealthy undergrad with those who were fortunate to come from good high schools and educated households

Not going out much as an extrovert and having little opportunity to get to know some nice and intelligent women, in part due to the disadvantage mentioned before and some very poor time management on my part

It's not all bad though. My stats are fine and I've gotten a good education. I think I have a decent shot of getting into med school and I'm incredibly thankful for that

While I definitely see where you're coming from, I'm very thankful that I wasn't one of the fortunate kids. Not saying there is anything wrong with being fortunate though.

 

[altblue]

While I definitely see where you're coming from, I'm very thankful that I wasn't one of the fortunate kids. Not saying there is anything wrong with being fortunate though.

Why's that though?

 

[Gilakend]

Why's that though?

It just gives you a different perspective and different experiences. I had no study habits at all coming in but I adapted to college and found all of my opportunities in college because of traits, attitudes, or behaviors I greatly attribute to my upbringing. While conversely some people have very well-off upbringings and do phenomenal in college but once they're out of a school setting they're like a fish out of water. I'll leave it at that for the sake of not derailing the thread. Again, I'm not saying every rich kid is a lazy trust fund recipient (if any of us get into med school our kids would obviously be very well off), just saying I'm grateful for my personal experiences and what they gave me. YMMV.

 

[altblue]

It just gives you a different perspective and different experiences. I had no study habits at all coming in but I adapted to college and found all of my opportunities in college because of traits, attitudes, or behaviors I greatly attribute to my upbringing. While conversely some people have very well-off upbringings and do phenomenal in college but once they're out of a school setting they're like a fish out of water. I'll leave it at that for the sake of not derailing the thread. Again, I'm not saying every rich kid is a lazy trust fund recipient (if any of us get into med school our kids would obviously be very well off), just saying I'm grateful for my personal experiences and what they gave me. YMMV.

YMMV for sure lol

I definitely have mixed thoughts about my SES but there are positives too. Socially I'm a lot more laid back than the rich kids in UG and I'm more comfortable being myself. Think it'll help me in my career too

Academically? My English education was all kinds of awful though and helps explain why cars was noticeably low for my overall. I don't think my background helped me academically but I think I treasure my ECs and some of my good grades more because of how rare they are in my family

The reasonably affluent undergrads weren't bad people. While some were wholly concerned with money and prestige, many were wonderful people, with good hearts and honest intentions. That doesn't stop them from being naive or unaware of their priveledge at times, and most struggled with one of those two. Still, wasn't a bad crowd to hang around

Relevant bc it was my experience in the pre med environment

 

[SpoiledMilk]

Semester-long group project. My turn to turn-in an assignment which was due 12AM one night. I sent out drafts via emails to other 3 members for revisions, etc. on final day.

At 11 PM that night, sent out final draft asking for all members' approval before I submitted it. Two members replied within minutes with approval. Did not hear from last member.

So at 11:47 PM, I submitted the assignment because I was tired and wanted to go to sleep and sent out text to all members with image of confirmation of submission. Class was at 7:30 AM next morning.

When I got to class the next morning, the member who did not respond with their final approval was pissed I submitted without their approval. Surprised by this, I told him that the other two replied within minutes and asked why he didn't. He said he was on a bus and had lost reception.

What???? So with an assignment due in 13 minutes and him without a way to reply to my final request for approval, he was pissed at me for submitting the assignment? Ungrateful *ss.

SMH.

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

I had a student a couple years ago in my differential equations class who would always acknowledge every word the professor said. As the professor lectured, she would make sounds like "Uh huh, yeah. Okay....oh okay, I see...." during the entire lecture. It would drive some of us crazy.
Also if you asked the professor a question, she would interrupt his explanation and try to explain it to you herself. Multiple times the professor had to tell her to be quiet so he could finish.

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There’s a guy in my class who does the second thing. Our professor is an immigrant, so her accent is sometimes hard to understand, and her explanations can be weird because of the language barrier. But this guy will just interrupt and start explaining it, even though half the time he’s incorrect.

One time, one of her test questions was wrong, so we were all trying to see if she’d give us the three points since the test bank was incorrect, and he started Blue falconing us by trying to explain why we were wrong.

Except I’m a mathematician, so I very quickly explained to him why he didn’t know what the **** he was talking about and should shut up.

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

Semester-long group project. My turn to turn-in an assignment which was due 12AM one night. I sent out drafts via emails to other 3 members for revisions, etc. on final day.

At 11 PM that night, sent out final draft asking for all members' approval before I submitted it. Two members replied within minutes with approval. Did not hear from last member.

So at 11:47 PM, I submitted the assignment because I was tired and wanted to go to sleep and sent out text to all members with image of confirmation of submission. Class was at 7:30 AM next morning.

When I got to class the next morning, the member who did not respond with their final approval was pissed I submitted without their approval. Surprised by this, I told him that the other two replied within minutes and asked why he didn't. He said he was on a bus and had lost reception.

What???? So with an assignment due in 13 minutes and him without a way to reply to my final request for approval, he was pissed at me for submitting the assignment? Ungrateful *ss.

SMH.

Why’d you wait until the last day?

 

[DJ Khaled's Pet Tiger]

I had A&P I with a classmate who was convinced he was going to become a general surgeon, and was very cocky about it. Meanwhile he would fall asleep in class every other lecture. Yeah right So glad I'm almost finished with the weed-out classes

I have a friend who fell asleep in every single lecture and graduated with a 4.0.... you never know man! 😀

 

[Coltuna]

Semester-long group project. My turn to turn-in an assignment which was due 12AM one night. I sent out drafts via emails to other 3 members for revisions, etc. on final day.

At 11 PM that night, sent out final draft asking for all members' approval before I submitted it. Two members replied within minutes with approval. Did not hear from last member.

So at 11:47 PM, I submitted the assignment because I was tired and wanted to go to sleep and sent out text to all members with image of confirmation of submission. Class was at 7:30 AM next morning.

When I got to class the next morning, the member who did not respond with their final approval was pissed I submitted without their approval. Surprised by this, I told him that the other two replied within minutes and asked why he didn't. He said he was on a bus and had lost reception.

What???? So with an assignment due in 13 minutes and him without a way to reply to my final request for approval, he was pissed at me for submitting the assignment? Ungrateful *ss.

SMH.

I hate to be that guy, but this entire scenario was your fault lol. Semester long project and you send out revisions on the last day then send out the final draft for approval an hour before it was due at a time when you can presume that most people in your class are sleeping seeing as though that class is in 8.5 hours... I'm surprised even 2 of them got back to you.

 

[SpoiledMilk]

Why’d you wait until the last day?

I hate to be that guy, but this entire scenario was your fault lol. Semester long project and you send out revisions on the last day then send out the final draft for approval an hour before it was due at a time when you can presume that most people in your class are sleeping seeing as though that class is in 8.5 hours... I'm surprised even 2 of them got back to you.

Lol. Misunderstanding. Left out that this assignment was just a part of the final paper to be sent in at end of semester. I wanted to send in the assignment days before, but others due to procrastination on their parts wanted to make last minute changes to the final draft to send in and as the person responsible for submitting, I had to wait for their changes.

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

Lol. Misunderstanding. Left out that this assignment was just a part of the final paper to be sent in at end of semester. I wanted to send in the assignment days before, but others due to procrastination on their parts wanted to make last minute changes to the final draft to send in and as the person responsible for submitting, I had to wait for their changes.

Ah, so they procrastinated and then got mad when you had to turn it in last minute without checking with them. That makes more sense.

 

[deleted804295]

What grinds your gears the most about school/class/apps/anything related?

I'll start with:
I hate when my professor hands my test back upside down like she does to everyone else, and the person sitting next to me immediately asks me what I got. MYDB! It's not a competition (at least to me)

Piggybacking on that, I equally despise when a student will get a stellar grade and walk around the class showing everyone, repeatedly saying his score loud enough for the class to hear.

What grinds your gears?

Piggybacking off of this:

You know what I absolutely hate the most? When a person you don't even know has the audacity to ask you your grade when you don't even know them.

If being a pre med has taught me anything it's to lie and to lie wholeheartedly.
Annoying Pre-med: What was your grade on the last exam?
Me: Not sure, haven't checked my grades yet. What was your grade on the exam?

If you do this enough times and turn the picture around on them they'll be flustered and embarrassed enough to stop asking.

 

[deleted804295]

Either that or they'll try to persuade the prof to give them back points on a test because "the phrasing was wrong" or "we didn't go over this concept in the lecture enough". Sit down and take the loss lol

I disagree on taking a loss. Some of my professors actually will barter points if you give a good enough explanation.

I do agree that those two excuses are piss poor ones though.

 

[ItsAMeMario007]

Biology majors complaining about it being the hardest science major when it's the easiest...physics, mathematics, chemistry and engineering are all more difficult (for the majortiy).

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

Biology majors complaining about it being the hardest science major when it's the easiest...physics, mathematics, chemistry and engineering are all more difficult (for the majortiy).

I’ve given biology majors a gander at basic analysis or field theory stuff, and they are shocked that I can even tell them what it means. Even just Lagrangian mechanics goes over their heads. Bio is easy. Math and physics requires an actual understanding of not only a new complex language (math), but many relationships.

 

[DJ Khaled's Pet Tiger]

I’ve given biology majors a gander at basic analysis or field theory stuff, and they are shocked that I can even tell them what it means. Even just Lagrangian mechanics goes over their heads. Bio is easy. Math and physics requires an actual understanding of not only a new complex language (math), but many relationships.

To be fair - understanding these relationships has little to no value for a practicing clinician, so there might be a bit of selection bias here. I studied a lot of esoteric stuff in college that most pre-meds wouldn’t immediately understand because A) they’ve never seen anything like it B) they don’t have the background knowledge to understand and C) they don’t care. It’s by no means because my studies were harder or a reflection on what quality of student they are. All three reasons are perfectly fine and are the same reasons I have no idea what field theory is.

 

[Coltuna]

I’ve given biology majors a gander at basic analysis or field theory stuff, and they are shocked that I can even tell them what it means. Even just Lagrangian mechanics goes over their heads.

This part of your post is a littlllllle iffy for me. A someone who's worked as a general tutor, math is the subject that the vast majority of the general college student population struggles with/doesn't like. This isn't specific to Biology Pre-med majors haha.

 

[CloverBale]

People who discuss their test answers after an exam and want to know what you put. Like leave me alone, I don't need the added anxiety after the test.

 

[altblue]

I’ve given biology majors a gander at basic analysis or field theory stuff, and they are shocked that I can even tell them what it means. Even just Lagrangian mechanics goes over their heads. Bio is easy. Math and physics requires an actual understanding of not only a new complex language (math), but many relationships.

"I'm, like, really really smart."

 

[drmantistobbogan]

I’ve given biology majors a gander at basic analysis or field theory stuff, and they are shocked that I can even tell them what it means. Even just Lagrangian mechanics goes over their heads. Bio is easy. Math and physics requires an actual understanding of not only a new complex language (math), but many relationships.

What grinds my gears? When people make blatantly pompous comments like this just to brag about how much smarter they are than other people

 

[Robin-jay]

How much luck/how nice your graduate TAs matter in the grade you get. All I want for Christmas is a nice GTA for next semester. Just one.

And general stupidity. For the first lab of Gen Chem I, I looked through one of my lab partner's calculations, which were completely wrong. I had to explain to him that ice was less dense than water. I know my school isn't the epitome of academic excellence but my opinion of the undergrads here went down the drain.

There is a lot less luck than you think when us instructors graded students papers.

Most of my fellow chemistry instructors were extraordinarily consistent with grading, though some more lenient than others.

But honestly, you should never get less than an "A-" in a general chemistry lab.

I taught maybe 15+ lab courses, and the average for gen chem I for my students were usually an "A", maybe Gen Chem II was an "A-", and organic labs were usually closer to "B".

However, if you attend every lab for general chem., you should always have an "A".

 

[Robin-jay]

Biology majors complaining about it being the hardest science major when it's the easiest...physics, mathematics, chemistry and engineering are all more difficult (for the majortiy).

YES.

 

[altblue]

There is a lot less luck than you think when us instructors graded students papers.

Most of my fellow chemistry instructors were extraordinarily consistent with grading, though some more lenient than others.

But honestly, you should never get less than an "A-" in a general chemistry lab.

I taught maybe 15+ lab courses, and the average for gen chem I for my students were usually an "A", maybe Gen Chem II was an "A-", and organic labs were usually closer to "B".

However, if you attend every lab for general chem., you should always have an "A".

Maybe at your school, but you can't make generalizations about other schools, like about the grading or consistency of instruction

GSIs, especially those in lab, are notorious for being inconsistent in quality and expectations at my undergrad. Some care more about format than others. Some will doc you for too much analysis while others are fine. Some will doc you for too little analysis while others are fine.

What grinds my gears? When people make blatantly pompous comments like this just to brag about how much smarter they are than other people

He does this a lot lol. Honestly it's kind of endearing at this point

 

[Coltuna]

There are some truly pompous members in this thread lol