What happens to those who don't get in?

[ponybreeder4]

Considering a degree in biology is pretty much worthless these days and college grads in general are having a tough time finding jobs, what happens to those premeds who dont get in to any schools? I am sure this has crossed everyone's mind at once. I honestly don't know what i would do.

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[Pghboy18]

Considering a degree in biology is pretty much worthless these days and college grads in general are having a tough time finding jobs, what happens to those premeds who dont get in to any schools? I am sure this has crossed everyone's mind at once. I honestly don't know what i would do.

I'll check back with you in May and let you know.

 

[greg1184]

Considering a degree in biology is pretty much worthless these days and college grads in general are having a tough time finding jobs, what happens to those premeds who dont get in to any schools? I am sure this has crossed everyone's mind at once. I honestly don't know what i would do.

Because there is no higher education other than medical school, right?

Assuming that the person does not want to reapply to medical school, you could do a Ph.D., Masters in public health, pharmacy, dental, podiatry. There are MANY opportunities that can be done after college that is OUTSIDE the pre-med box. Sometimes I think pre-meds actually believe that there is only medical school or nothing.

 

[Pghboy18]

Because there is no higher education other than medical school, right?

Assuming that the person does not want to reapply to medical school, you could do a Ph.D., Masters in public health, pharmacy, dental, podiatry. There are MANY opportunities that can be done after college that is OUTSIDE the pre-med box. Sometimes I think pre-meds actually believe that there is only medical school or nothing.

Premeds that don't get in obviously commit suicide. The pain of living without those two letters after your name is too great for anyone to bear...

Or they go to the Caribbean.

 

[misssciencenerd]

Premeds that don't get in obviously commit suicide. The pain of living without those two letters after your name is too great for anyone to bear...

Or they go to the Caribbean.

hahaha perfect

 

[apumic]

Considering a degree in biology is pretty much worthless these days and college grads in general are having a tough time finding jobs, what happens to those premeds who dont get in to any schools? I am sure this has crossed everyone's mind at once. I honestly don't know what i would do.

Well, 90% of them shrivel up and die of depression while spending their final 6 months floating around SDN. The other 10% spend another $3000 applying again the next year, then shrivel up and die of even deeper depression than their counterparts the year before. After death, they continue to haunt these forums, posting about their great high school clinical experiences and asking questions in the specialty forums as though they were really in medical school until they are finally banned for "trolling" and their spirits are released into the afterlife, where they are finally allowed to learn about the bodies they once inhabited and understand the mysteries of medicine.

 

[fizzle]

Considering a degree in biology is pretty much worthless these days and college grads in general are having a tough time finding jobs, what happens to those premeds who dont get in to any schools? I am sure this has crossed everyone's mind at once. I honestly don't know what i would do.

Aren't most majors pretty much worthless for any job? College has become more of a jumping point to graduate/professional school, since most of the things you learn in college isn't anything you could convert to a job. It's only the possession of a diploma that actually helps you get that job...

 

[Dissected]

Considering a degree in biology is pretty much worthless these days and college grads in general are having a tough time finding jobs, what happens to those premeds who dont get in to any schools? I am sure this has crossed everyone's mind at once. I honestly don't know what i would do.

Eternal Damnation...

or apply again. because if at first you don't succeed: try, try again. . Plus, when you finally find out you REALLY didn't get in, it will be the time of the year to restart your AMCAS.

or if you are sick of the process and were never really serious about being a doctor, get out while you can, because I wouldn't recommend the profession to anyone who doesn't want it 100%. The health professions aren't limited to being a physician, and biology majors aren't limited to the health/science field.

 

[Dissected]

Aren't most majors pretty much worthless for any job? College has become more of a jumping point to graduate/professional school, since most of the things you learn in college isn't anything you could convert to a job. It's only the possession of a diploma that actually helps you get that job...

mehhhh...I would replace most with some.

 

[jonessoda]

They're doomed to walk the Umbral Lands between this world and the next, losing their minds and becoming little more than insubstantial, howling ghosts

 

[ArkansasRanger]

Aren't most majors pretty much worthless for any job? QUOTE]

YEP!

 

[sarahl86]

Health Education FTW! I have to admit, I would have rather been in school this past year though.

 

[ArkansasRanger]

For many it would seem that being a physician is the only interesting route for those interested in medicine / healthcare.
For me....

Dentistry...I don't have the perception to do what they do, plus it's not that interesting.

Optometry...I have an "eye thing" so that would weird me out, plus it's not that interesting.

Podiatry...Ugh. Why spend the whole day with messed up feet?

Pharmacy...Interesting in a lot of respects, but seems mundane. I'm also not a mathlete so running formulas all day probably isn't the best activity for me.

Nursing...not enough autonomy, knowledge, or abilities, plus wtf is "nursing theory" anyway.

Therapy...the many fields - I don't have a lot of patience for stuff like that.

Psychology...A Ph.D.?? Get out of here. I'm not doing research for two years. The pay is not that good for the other mental health folks.

Clinical Microbiology...no microscopes all day, plus I'm red-green color blind which makes looking at stains a big PITA.

Other Allied Health Jobs.....nah

Physician Assistant...quite a novel idea. I'm not against it, but it's actually easier for me to complete "premed" since it's uniformed than it is to complete "prePA" since every school has different requirements. The lessened scope of autonomy is the only other drawback for me.

Veterinary...way too cool, way too hard for me to get accepted somewhere if I applied, plus I don't want to euthanize someone's pet I've said before if I just had way too much money I'd make a couple of donations and go to both med and vet schools although I'd probably never fully practice after internships in this scenario.

 

[dw2158]

Aren't most majors pretty much worthless for any job? College has become more of a jumping point to graduate/professional school, since most of the things you learn in college isn't anything you could convert to a job. It's only the possession of a diploma that actually helps you get that job...

yeah. if i don't get into med school i'll apply again for sure, but then if i don't get in i'll do something totally different. social work, maybe.

 

[Aggro]

If I don't get in, I'll probably just suck it up and become a PA. I'll end up getting paid well to start work sooner in life and end up working 9-5 instead of being on call every third day and oh god what am I doing with my life

 

[sportsfreak]

teach in a private school for a year or two

 

[ChairmanMao]

Well, 90% of them shrivel up and die of depression while spending their final 6 months floating around SDN. The other 10% spend another $3000 applying again the next year, then shrivel up and die of even deeper depression than their counterparts the year before. After death, they continue to haunt these forums, posting about their great high school clinical experiences and asking questions in the specialty forums as though they were really in medical school until they are finally banned for "trolling" and their spirits are released into the afterlife, where they are finally allowed to learn about the bodies they once inhabited and understand the mysteries of medicine.

Not true. Everyone who posts on SDN (99.999%) gets accepted to medical school eventually.

 

[DrYoda]

They are slowly digested over a thousand years...

 

[vickpick]

Not true. Everyone who posts on SDN (99.999%) gets accepted to medical school eventually.

 

[ArkansasRanger]

yeah. if i don't get into med school i'll apply again for sure, but then if i don't get in i'll do something totally different. social work, maybe.

social work?

 

[ArkansasRanger]

teach in a private school for a year or two

Nah, do public school. It pays better, but the working conditions are worse. All I had to do to get a teaching license was fill out a form, pay a fee, and sit through a two week seminar the cost of which I was later reimbursed for. We had a catered lunch everyday on top of that.

 

[ArkansasRanger]

So if I just send in an application every year for a decade they'll eventually let me in even without finishing the prereqs?? Sweet!!


Sigh....

 

[sportsfreak]

don't u need to take classes to be certified so u can teach in public schools?

 

[sizillyd]

Premeds that don't get in obviously commit suicide. The pain of living without those two letters after your name is too great for anyone to bear...

Or they go to the Caribbean.

This is truth. It is the code of the samurai...er..I mean Pre-med student.

 

[dw2158]

social work?

yeah, what's wrong with social work? that's basically what my job is right now. and i enjoy it well enough.

 

[ArkansasRanger]

don't u need to take classes to be certified so u can teach in public schools?

Re-read my post. It'll answer your question. Here, it's referred to as the "non-traditional licensing program." Other states have use different titles. Same license. Same pay.

 

[ArkansasRanger]

yeah, what's wrong with social work? that's basically what my job is right now. and i enjoy it well enough.

I don't know. I never really envisioned it with being medical-oriented. I know they work in hospitals and such but isn't that to like get financial assistance, do case management and such? Unless you're doing psychotherapy or something...

 

[ArkansasRanger]

You know this is the sole reason I refuse to quit my job and go back to "premed." I'm too concerned with forgoing a good job for nothing should I not get accpeted. As such I'll just have to take the few remaining courses I need whenever they become available. I cannot in anyway justify leaving a known on a chance opportunity.

 

[sportsfreak]

do all states offer those types of programs? I am from PA and haven't been able to find a path to certification without enrolling in classes

 

[ArkansasRanger]

do all states offer those types of programs? I am from PA and haven't been able to find a path to certification without enrolling in classes

I just realized that I have replied to this thread way too many times, but so goes a slow day at the office.

Sportsfreak, it'll depend upon the need based in your state. Your best bet would be to contact the PA Dept. of Education or whatever that entity may be there. Some avenue has bound to exist. I'll go ahead and say that I don't wish teaching on anybody. I actually started college and graduated with a useless degree in general science so I turned to teaching via that route. I finished high school in May 2000 and started teaching in January 2004. In that time "the system" had changed enough to make the classroom alien to me. It was entirely not what I expected, and I'll be so bold to say that I grew up in a totally middle class, white community so I didn't know anything about multiculturalism. If you could get a gig doing nothing but P.E. then wow. Talk about easy job with all the perks of being a teacher. Guidance counseling in elementary and middle school and being a librarian, or media specialist as they're called now, is also gravy. Some states have master's degree preparation programs as we do here as well - Master of Arts in Teaching (MAT). Arkansas has several programs due to a need for teachers here. Generally, the college types don't want to settle in eastern Arkansas, and that and inner cities are generally where the need is with math, hard science, special ed., foreign languages, and art and music believe it or not. I'm not moving over there, btw. Social studies and my area, life and earth science (along with being licensed as a middle school [4-8] generalist), weren't really in demand. I just got lucky getting one job, and I left for more money which soured me. That district was awful so I left and didn't look back. Don't be a teacher unless you want to be one.

 

[dw2158]

I don't know. I never really envisioned it with being medical-oriented. I know they work in hospitals and such but isn't that to like get financial assistance, do case management and such? Unless you're doing psychotherapy or something...

god forbid i should have interests that aren't "medically oriented." (nice grammar on that one, btw.)

You know this is the sole reason I refuse to quit my job and go back to "premed." I'm too concerned with forgoing a good job for nothing should I not get accpeted. As such I'll just have to take the few remaining courses I need whenever they become available. I cannot in anyway justify leaving a known on a chance opportunity.

if you're not premed, why are you here? i'm confused.

 

[slick27]

I believe they will develop a friendship with alcohol. They might even become best friends.

 

[ArkansasRanger]

god forbid i should have interests that aren't "medically oriented." (nice grammar on that one, btw.)



if you're not premed, why are you here? i'm confused.

Well, I'm sorry I didn't mean to imply that you could perform only medical jobs. For some reason when I initially replied I was on a kick of medical alternatives than being a physician.

I'm not officially premed. I'm privately premed taking my own premed classes in my own time.

 

[sully677]

There is a dark abyss in Kansas that unsuccessful applicants are placed into...

 

[BennieBlanco]

Well, 90% of them shrivel up and die of depression while spending their final 6 months floating around SDN. The other 10% spend another $3000 applying again the next year, then shrivel up and die of even deeper depression than their counterparts the year before. After death, they continue to haunt these forums, posting about their great high school clinical experiences and asking questions in the specialty forums as though they were really in medical school until they are finally banned for "trolling" and their spirits are released into the afterlife, where they are finally allowed to learn about the bodies they once inhabited and understand the mysteries of medicine.

lol

 

[BennieBlanco]

They actually all go move to Oklahoma.

 

[BennieBlanco]

Not true. Everyone who posts on SDN (99.999%) gets accepted to medical school eventually.

That poor guy who didn't get in last year. Poor soul.