What is Adversity?

[busupshot83]

What exactly counts as overcoming adversity?

I had a brain tumor when I was in highschool and had a 50/50 change of living. To make a long story short, I survived, finished highschool, and am in my last 2 years of college. Does that count as adversity?

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[vishal_k32801]

Adversity means
1 : a state or condition contrary to one of well-being
2 : an instance of adversity

synonym to MISFORTUNE where Misfortune means
An event or conjunction of events that causes an unfortunate or distressing result.
Have you suffered in education or in any other way? for example. Can you show that it has caused your family a lot of financial burdon or your education was affected by that ?

 

[Barry20]

Bus,

I would say that your experience represents adversity for sure. Adcoms, I believe, not only want to see the adversity, but what you learned from it. That's why they view adversity so positively - they know that most people that endure adversity come out a better person, atleast in most cases. I'm certain that you are a much stronger person for having struggled with a brain tumor, so let adcoms know that.

 

[Thaxil]

Yes, such adversity do build character and allow one to grow.

I am no expert, However I have spent the whole summer writing a well balanced personal stat. and talked to many people and consolers about mentioning adversity dealing with health or mental problems. Many of them stated that Adcoms might connect with such situations, but others may be afraid to accept for fear of health promblems interfering in your studies.

This is why I decieded not to mention some of my situations. I don't know of your current health; it is most like normal. Selection is extreme; they not need to take any risk.




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[ItsGavinC]

Originally posted by busupshot83
What exactly counts as overcoming adversity?

I had a brain tumor when I was in highschool and had a 50/50 change of living. To make a long story short, I survived, finished highschool, and am in my last 2 years of college. Does that count as adversity?

Are you serious?

 

[aphistis]

Originally posted by ItsGavinC
Are you serious?

No kidding. My standard response to "should I apply as disadvantaged?" is "if you have to ask whether to check the box, don't check the box," but this is definitely an exception to that rule. Are you SURE you didn't lose a little higher cognitive function? 😉 Kidding, of course. Best of luck in your applications.

 

[busupshot83]

Originally posted by vishal_k32801

Have you suffered in education or in any other way? for example. Can you show that it has caused your family a lot of financial burdon or your education was affected by that ?

Yeah financially... my surgery was over 200 g's

 

[busupshot83]

Originally posted by ItsGavinC
Are you serious?

no i'm joking... why would anyone in their right mind joke about that? you don't understand how many people ask me stupid questions like that...

 

[aphistis]

Originally posted by busupshot83
no i'm joking... why would anyone in their right mind joke about that? you don't understand how many people ask me stupid questions like that...

Because, as Gavin and I pointed out earlier, it's not exactly a rational question. Can you even generate a *hypothetical* scenario where surviving a life-threatening cancer to graduate college near the top of your class *isn't* overcoming adversity?

 

[busupshot83]

Originally posted by aphistis
Because, as Gavin and I pointed out earlier, it's not exactly a rational question. Can you even generate a *hypothetical* scenario where surviving a life-threatening cancer to graduate college near the top of your class *isn't* overcoming adversity?

Excuse me alphi... who makes you the authority on "rational" questions? Oh I forgot, you *masticate* 3 times a day... what was I thinking? If you can't give a straight up answer without being a smarta$$, what's the point of even posting? Have a nice day alphi 😎.

bus.

 

[bloomer]

bus,

i think you're the above comments the wrong way. these guys are on your side and probably noone can begin to imagine what you went through.

you definitely have overcome adversity, but i'm not sure what that technically means in terms of the application process which is I'm sure why you asked the question


bloomer

 

[busupshot83]

Originally posted by bloomer
bus,

i think you're the above comments the wrong way. these guys are on your side and probably noone can begin to imagine what you went through.

you definitely have overcome adversity, but i'm not sure what that technically means in terms of the application process which is I'm sure why you asked the question


bloomer

That's what i'm trying to say bloom... of course I know I have overcome adversity; I'm not a *****. But like you, I'm not sure what that means in the application process.

 

[MsPurtell]

.......fellow Big C survivor here. You and I most certainly overcome adversity. I made reference to my experience and how it has changed me in my personal statement when I was applying to dental school. The important part is including how you have changed and why you think it'll make you a better professional.

I think others have been a little surprised by your question because, to us, the cancer doesn't seem as horrible as it does to other people. At least that's been my experience. I think we sometimes forget that we've beaten the devil.

Anyway, good luck and let me know if you have any questions about how to approach the subject.

Margaret

 

[aphistis]

Originally posted by busupshot83
Excuse me alphi... who makes you the authority on "rational" questions? Oh I forgot, you *masticate* 3 times a day... what was I thinking? If you can't give a straight up answer without being a smarta$$, what's the point of even posting? Have a nice day alphi 😎.

bus.

Yes, I masticate three times a day. So do you. Get your notebook out, it's called a double entendre. Sure, you raise a valid point, but in reply, I'd point out that if *you* can't recognize the significance of overcoming cancer, what's the point of even applying to a health profession? Relax a little, for crying out loud.

 

[MsPurtell]

I don't know if you are interested, but here goes.......I don't think bus's reaction to his experience is all that unusual. Sometimes it's quite hard to acknowledge the severity of a situation you've faced. This is so for a number of reasons, but I've noticed in my case that it hasn't impacted how I respond to the severity of someone else's illness. I don't think that bus's questions regarding his own experience are any indication of what kind of health professional he will make.

 

[busupshot83]

Originally posted by MsPurtell
.......fellow Big C survivor here. You and I most certainly overcome adversity. I made reference to my experience and how it has changed me in my personal statement when I was applying to dental school. The important part is including how you have changed and why you think it'll make you a better professional.

I think others have been a little surprised by your question because, to us, the cancer doesn't seem as horrible as it does to other people. At least that's been my experience. I think we sometimes forget that we've beaten the devil.

Anyway, good luck and let me know if you have any questions about how to approach the subject.

Margaret

Ms. P.,

I feel ya gurl... PM.

 

[busupshot83]

Originally posted by aphistis
Yes, I masticate three times a day. So do you. Get your notebook out, it's called a double entendre. Sure, you raise a valid point, but in reply, I'd point out that if *you* can't recognize the significance of overcoming cancer, what's the point of even applying to a health profession? Relax a little, for crying out loud.

Ok, you raise a valid point. But it's funny how you automatically *think* that your technical terminology is so advanced for the rest of us. Did I ever say I didn't know what masticate means? And who said I'm not relaxed?

Originally posted by MsPurtell
I don't know if you are interested, but here goes.......I don't think bus's reaction to his experience is all that unusual. Sometimes it's quite hard to acknowledge the severity of a situation you've faced. This is so for a number of reasons, but I've noticed in my case that it hasn't impacted how I respond to the severity of someone else's illness. I don't think that bus's questions regarding his own experience are any indication of what kind of health professional he will make.

My surgeons told me never to believe I can't do anything that others could. So basically, I have a mindset that I don't see my tumor as "holding" me back. Thus, I tend to have a neutral opinon on my surgery. This is why it may be hard for others to comprehend my asking of this question.

pce,

bus.

 

[ItsGavinC]

Originally posted by aphistis
Because, as Gavin and I pointed out earlier, it's not exactly a rational question. Can you even generate a *hypothetical* scenario where surviving a life-threatening cancer to graduate college near the top of your class *isn't* overcoming adversity?

Exactly. How could it NOT be adversity? I'm actually amazed that you would even ask.

Further, I think you'll do well in the application process. And NOT just because of the adversity, but because of the complete package you offer.

 

[busupshot83]

Originally posted by ItsGavinC
Exactly. How could it NOT be adversity? I'm actually amazed that you would even ask.

Further, I think you'll do well in the application process. And NOT just because of the adversity, but because of the complete package you offer.

thanks gav... always there to brighten the day

 

[Balki]

hey busupshot83, It's Balki here!

Good luck on your application procedure I am sure you are going to do splendidly! Just finish pre reqs and you'll be fine.
Hows the weather in Florida by the way can't wait to visit FL again.

Oh yeah I also PMed you.

 

[busupshot83]

Balki,

Thanks for the support. Weather's great down here: hot sun, warm breeze, and short- short-shorts. <- not me, the girls... 😎