What is Biology and Organic Chem in the same sem like?

[MedicineNutt]

General Biology 1 and Organic Chem 1...is it too much memorization?? just would like to know your experiences with these subjects in the same semester

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[alwaysaangel]

I did it and did fine. But to me Ochem isn't memorization its conceptual - so it was one conceptual class and one memorization class. But either way I don't think its too much work - you'll be fine.

 

[MedicineNutt]

I did it and did fine. But to me Ochem isn't memorization its conceptual - so it was one conceptual class and one memorization class. But either way I don't think its too much work - you'll be fine.

cool cool thanks!

 

[Kashala]

No it shouldn't be too much later your probably going to have to take as much as three or four science courses at the same time if your a biology major...physics, bio, bio or phys, bio, chem. You should be fine but if its too much for you I would rather take a little longer and do well then get a C or something.

 

[_ian]

You will certainly be pairing science courses at some point in your undergraduate career. Biology and orgo is not one of the more difficult possibilities. Don't sweat it.

 

[geogil]

Orgo isn't as bad as the rap it gets. Spend lots of time studying and you'll do fine. I took bio and genetics with orgo and it wasn't too bad.

 

[45408]

You'd better be able to handle it, because it's much worse in med school than those two classes. Biology is cake.

 

[primadonna22274]

not nearly as bad as gen bio, gen chem, organic chem, and genetics in the same semester...ditto next semester but change genetics to microbio and cell bio...i crammed a bio major into 5 semesters (changed majors...don't advise it) but hell, I was only 23 then and I survived.😎

 

[CTtarheel]

organic is not about memorization, its about understanding. You can try to memorize every specific reaction, or you can understand why the chemicals do what they do. It boils down to fewer than 10 general principles. Bio on the other hand is all about memorization . . . to answer your question i think its doable.

 

[MonkeyNuts!]

I did physics and chem/orgo together. Made me want to become a performing mime.

 

[ALEX KAREV]

I did physics and chem/orgo together. Made me want to become a performing mime.

me too, along with genetics and ecology. not any fun!

op:I loved o-chem, but hated g-chem. if that is you then you will do fine in ochem. it is alot of memorization. but if you are good at that then no worries, as anything on the test will be from some book.

 

[shaggybill]

I think I'm going to have to take gen/chem II, biology, Physics I, and biochemistry in one semester next fall. How's that for risky? Not my first choice, but it needs to be done. All of this while working 32 hours on the weekends. Anybody ever do anything like that before?

 

[masterMood]

like stealing viagra from a baby?

 

[BigRedPremed]

It's like pretty easy.

 

[ALEX KAREV]

I think I'm going to have to take gen/chem II, biology, Physics I, and biochemistry in one semester next fall. How's that for risky? Not my first choice, but it needs to be done. All of this while working 32 hours on the weekends. Anybody ever do anything like that before?

like i said above i have. i took genetics, o-chem, physics and ecology all the while working a full time job (anywhere between 40-48 hrs a week)...so no its not that risky what ure going to do.....for instance i got all A's in those classes. so as you see it is doable.

 

[lk2230]

I'm in Columbia's Post-Bacc program. They require us to take Orgo and Bio concurrently, so that's exactly what I'm currently doing. It's pretty rough...everyone knows Orgo is tough but Columbia specifically has a very hard and well-known Bio course. I'm also taking lab and a 2 credit clinical research class attached to required volunteering shifts. I also work part time.

It's pretty rough, and the Orgo and Bio together are starting to suck. On the whole, however, it's definitely doable, and if you are well-organized you should be able to do as well as you would if you were taking them seperately.

 

[Xypathos]

like i said above i have. i took genetics, o-chem, physics and ecology all the while working a full time job (anywhere between 40-48 hrs a week)...so no its not that risky what ure going to do.....for instance i got all A's in those classes. so as you see it is doable.

Anyone spot the irrelevant information in the above quote?

 

[ALEX KAREV]

Anyone spot the irrelevant information in the above quote?

i do. before the words "for instance" there should only be 3 dots. but thanks for correcting my grammar lady.

 

[shaggybill]

Anyone spot the irrelevant information in the above quote?

I do. Alex let me know that it IS possible to get good grades while having a heavy courseload and working fulltime, which answered my question specifically.

Thanks Alex.

 

[Xypathos]

I do. Alex let me know that it IS possible to get good grades while having a heavy courseload and working fulltime, which answered my question specifically.

Thanks Alex.

His comment on grades only applies to you if you're Alex. Everyone is different.

btw, are you still in Salisbury? I'm from Winston-Salem but am currently in Iowa for college.

 

[ALEX KAREV]

I do. Alex let me know that it IS possible to get good grades while having a heavy courseload and working fulltime, which answered my question specifically.

Thanks Alex.

no problem. just ignore those other TROLLS, namely xpathos.

you just will be doing nothing but work...here is your future schedule!

work-school-sleep-work-school-sleep

i didnt go out much that quarter. but GOOD LUCK!

 

[jstuds_66]

I imagine that it's probably easier than 1st year of med school. Think Waterboy...."You can do it!"

 

[Trevelyan]

I did physics and chem/orgo together. Made me want to become a performing mime.

One term I did Organic Chem 1, Organic Chem 1 Lab, Cell Bio, Cell Bio Lab, and Genetics at the same time, and then another term, I took Organic Chem 2, Physics 1, Physics Lab 1, Microbiology, and Microbiology Lab.

 

[cgscribe]

It's not fun, but you can do it with hard work. Emphasis on not fun.

 

[shaggybill]

His comment on grades only applies to you if you're Alex. Everyone is different.

btw, are you still in Salisbury? I'm from Winston-Salem but am currently in Iowa for college.

True, but I've never taken a courseload that heavy, and it's good to know that it has been done before while working full time. And yeah, I'm in Salisbury for now, starting some electives at a CC this spring, but planning on transfering to a 4-year this coming Fall. Hopefully UNC, but I'll take NC State any day of the week too. I'm just hoping my high school antics and subsequent grades at a small private college haven't messed me up too bad.

Why Iowa?

 

[RedSHIFT]

So eeaaaasy, bio and chem complement each other like Cytosine and Guanine.

 

[Xypathos]

True, but I've never taken a courseload that heavy, and it's good to know that it has been done before while working full time. And yeah, I'm in Salisbury for now, starting some electives at a CC this spring, but planning on transfering to a 4-year this coming Fall. Hopefully UNC, but I'll take NC State any day of the week too. I'm just hoping my high school antics and subsequent grades at a small private college haven't messed me up too bad.

Why Iowa?

I had accepted a wrestling scholarship to a school here.

I graduated in '04, signed a one year contract, came to Iowa to wrestle, and halfway into the season was hit with testicular cancer so my scholarship was dropped.

But it's cool, I'm in the process of transfering to UNCC actually --- I really love UNC, awesome school but I also like large cities and I toured both and felt more at home at UNCC.

 

[psipsina]

You'd better be able to handle it, because it's much worse in med school than those two classes. Biology is cake.

Seriously, I saw the title of this thought "A dream" . . . god I've been working far far to much, . . . t-6 days till end of block A freedom! Keep your chins up first years!

To the op, you need to push yourself a little in undergrad and see if giving up a chunk of social life bothers you . . . overdo it a little a few semesters and see if you like the challenge and it just pushes you further or if it makes you a miserable angry person, . .. if it does the latter you'll have saved yourself the misery of discovering this fact about yourself after you matriculate in med school.

 

[Vvandenn]

I'll be taking Microbiology/Micro lab, Orgo/Orgo lab, Physiology/Phys Lab, plus a gen. ed. required class next year. Do you guys think this is going to be unbearably tough or what? I hope not... 🙁

 

[kevster2001]

A lot of people I know did that, it's not a big deal

 

[Mr. Tee]

Very doable.

 

[baylormed]

General Biology 1 and Organic Chem 1...is it too much memorization?? just would like to know your experiences with these subjects in the same semester

Pssh...amateurs.

 

[solitude]

I had accepted a wrestling scholarship to a school here.

I graduated in '04, signed a one year contract, came to Iowa to wrestle, and halfway into the season was hit with testicular cancer so my scholarship was dropped.

But it's cool, I'm in the process of transfering to UNCC actually --- I really love UNC, awesome school but I also like large cities and I toured both and felt more at home at UNCC.

ISU or UI? I'm from Iowa City, but going to college in North Carolina. I much prefer the weather here 😀 .

 

[Chuckwalla]

Pssh...amateurs.

I am sure you were born a pro.

 

[baylormed]

I am sure you were born a pro.

That's not what I meant.

But it amazes me that people think so hard about taking 2 science classes at once, when they are trying to get into medical school, where most of the curriculum is science.

And no, I've never taken less than 3 sciences a semester. My last 4 semester, I've never taken less than 4 or 5, many upper levels at once. Forgive me if I'm not too sympathetic. And yes, I have a job, ec's and volunteering activities.

2 sciences are completely manageable.

 

[Chuckwalla]

That's not what I meant.

But it amazes me that people think so hard about taking 2 science classes at once, when they are trying to get into medical school, where most of the curriculum is science.

And no, I've never taken less than 3 sciences a semester. My last 4 semester, I've never taken less than 4 or 5, many upper levels at once. Forgive me if I'm not too sympathetic. And yes, I have a job, ec's and volunteering activities.

2 sciences are completely manageable.

Wow, good for you. This is something the OP hasn't done before and he has a little anxiety about it. You are like a marathon runner making fun of somebody who isn't sure if they can run two miles. But hey don't sweat it, when med school comes around you will be the amateur.

 

[astrife]

That's not what I meant.

But it amazes me that people think so hard about taking 2 science classes at once, when they are trying to get into medical school, where most of the curriculum is science.

And no, I've never taken less than 3 sciences a semester. My last 4 semester, I've never taken less than 4 or 5, many upper levels at once. Forgive me if I'm not too sympathetic. And yes, I have a job, ec's and volunteering activities.

2 sciences are completely manageable.

I think many people here are under the assumption that hard sciences courses are "harder" than non-sci classes. I have found this generalization to be less than accurate.

 

[BigRedPremed]

Wow, good for you. This is something the OP hasn't done before and he has a little anxiety about it. You are like a marathon runner making fun of somebody who isn't sure if they can run two miles. But hey don't sweat it, when med school comes around you will be the amateur.

No, it's like making fun of someone who wants to run a marathon but has to ask if 2 miles is too much.

No offense to the OP, but this is what science majors go through each and every semester (2, 3, 4, 5 science courses at a time).

 

[MedicineNutt]

That's not what I meant.

But it amazes me that people think so hard about taking 2 science classes at once, when they are trying to get into medical school, where most of the curriculum is science.

And no, I've never taken less than 3 sciences a semester. My last 4 semester, I've never taken less than 4 or 5, many upper levels at once. Forgive me if I'm not too sympathetic. And yes, I have a job, ec's and volunteering activities.

2 sciences are completely manageable.

hahah well freshmen year i took physics and g-chem both semesters...it was very doable for me! but since o-chem and bio require memorization (source: rumors), i just wanted to kinda check with SDN members....

thanks for the posts and the troll LOL

 

[xpinchx]

Next semester: O-chem II + lab, Calc II, Physics II, Genetics.

🙁

 

[astrife]

No, it's like making fun of someone who wants to run a marathon but has to ask if 2 miles is too much.

No offense to the OP, but this is what science majors go through each and every semester (2, 3, 4, 5 science courses at a time).

At my college if you plan right you need to only take 1 semester with 3 sciences, and all the rest can just be 2.

 

[Xypathos]

ISU or UI? I'm from Iowa City, but going to college in North Carolina. I much prefer the weather here 😀 .

IU - I was 7-0 before the cancer and so due to chemo I had to step down as per the school's regulations.

Yea, the weather in Iowa blows balls. How can it go from 80+ degrees on a Monday at lunch, to the high 40's by dinner? The weather here changes every 5 minutes.

NC weather is much more stable, I love it.

 

[jbrice1639]

General Biology 1 and Organic Chem 1...is it too much memorization?? just would like to know your experiences with these subjects in the same semester

it's about half as hard as med school. and i'm not saying that to be a jackass, i'm saying that to mean it's totally doable. everyone who gets into med school finds a way to handle the workload...so if you put yourself through a little stress in undergrad with your courses, you'll have it that much easier in med school. and then you can sit back and sip your scotch on the rocks while the rest of your class has a nervous breakdown involving coffee and note cards 😎

 

[jbrice1639]

I think many people here are under the assumption that hard sciences courses are "harder" than non-sci classes. I have found this generalization to be less than accurate.

so true. 👍

 

[BigRedPremed]

At my college if you plan right you need to only take 1 semester with 3 sciences, and all the rest can just be 2.

With proper planning, yes. But due to some circumstances, some people have to take many science courses at the same time. I've generally only done 2 science courses per semester with an occasional 3 or 4 science course semester.

 

[baylormed]

so true. 👍

True, which is why I commented in the first place. People don't think twice about signing up for 4 non-sciences, but if it's more than 1 science they start worrying...if you are going to cut it in medical school you need to start building up those class-taking skills.

 

[shaggybill]

That's not what I meant.

But it amazes me that people think so hard about taking 2 science classes at once, when they are trying to get into medical school, where most of the curriculum is science.

And no, I've never taken less than 3 sciences a semester. My last 4 semester, I've never taken less than 4 or 5, many upper levels at once. Forgive me if I'm not too sympathetic. And yes, I have a job, ec's and volunteering activities.

2 sciences are completely manageable.

I think the reason we undergrads worry about stuff like this is because we have to maintain exceedingly high GPA's while taking these course. Isn't Med School just Pass/Fail and variations of that? (By the way, does anyone know the lowest letter grade that constitutes as Pass?)

I'm not even trying to equate the two, I just think these questions are justified.

 

[psipsina]

I think the reason we undergrads worry about stuff like this is because we have to maintain exceedingly high GPA's while taking these course. Isn't Med School just Pass/Fail and variations of that? (By the way, does anyone know the lowest letter grade that constitutes as Pass?)

I'm not even trying to equate the two, I just think these questions are justified.

Many med schools are honors/high pass/pass fail which basically works out to the same thing as grades, and your class rank still matters. Also to pass a medschool class equivilates with far more work than 2 undergrad sci classes, and you have 3-4 classes concurrently. I think the point we're making is that you should get a taste of being a bit overwhelmed a few times in undergrad to make sure this is really the choice for you, instead of having your first big callenge be first year of medschool. We did a mock practical yesterday for an upcoming gross anatomy test and I almost peed myself with joy when I passed by 1 point, and I've had to give up every part of my life other than medschool/basic life support/basic hygeine in the past week and a half to even pull that off, with a few more days to study I will probably high pass it . . . I like the challenge tho, and I knew that as an undergrad cause I pushed myself and got a thrill from overcoming the seemingly impossible . . . I think its essential to be this type of person in order to not be miserable in your basic sci classes in medschool.

 

[shaggybill]

Many med schools are honors/high pass/pass fail which basically works out to the same thing as grades, and your class rank still matters. Also to pass a medschool class equivilates with far more work than 2 undergrad sci classes, and you have 3-4 classes concurrently. I think the point we're making is that you should get a taste of being a bit overwhelmed a few times in undergrad to make sure this is really the choice for you, instead of having your first big callenge be first year of medschool. We did a mock practical yesterday for an upcoming gross anatomy test and I almost peed myself with joy when I passed by 1 point, and I've had to give up every part of my life other than medschool/basic life support/basic hygeine in the past week and a half to even pull that off, with a few more days to study I will probably high pass it . . . I like the challenge tho, and I knew that as an undergrad cause I pushed myself and got a thrill from overcoming the seemingly impossible . . . I think its essential to be this type of person in order to not be miserable in your basic sci classes in medschool.

I don't think we're disagreeing, I think we are just trying to make different points. I agree with you 100% that we need to be prepared for oodles of study time, but what I'm saying is that I would rather not be overwhelmed in order to make sure my grades stay above 3.5+. My undergrad career will have a lot more responsibilty than my med school career. Mostly financial, but other stuff too. In med school I'll be able to completely submerge myself in schoolwork and not have so much other stuff to worry about. I can't do that now.

Are we beating a dead horse. 🙂

 

[tinker_rebel]

Take Gen bio and Orgo together because other pairings are quite worse. For example, I got stuck taking Physics and Orgo together along with a 400 level psychobiology course. It was alright, but Physics and Orgo together really sucked my life up.