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My overal GPA is 3.30 and I also have an F for O.Chem (BS chemistry 🙂 ) I ended up retaking the O.chem and got a B. But still have this @#$% 😱 F on my stranscript. I don't expect getting 27-29 on AA like some other people on this forum, but just wanted to know how good my chances of getting accepted having, say, 21/21
 
I wouldnt worry about it. You obviously did much better the second time, and your GPA is decent. 21's on your DAT should get you interviews to a whole bunch of schools. One F in undergrad doesnt make you a bad dentist, and AdComs know this... its your overall package/performance and how you present it that counts. BSc Chem is one of the harder science degrees, I know because I did mine in it, so they'll take that into consideration too.

Apply early and pick your schools well! You'll do just fine! 👍
 
If you study the right materials the right way, then your previous F grade will not effect your DAT organic score. Many people have taken the DAT with just half of their organic/gchem completed, and did well. But they studied the DAT a whole lot more to achieve good scores. Your previous exposure to Organic/gchem courses will help you study better, and help you achieve better scores.
 
Some interviewers may bring up the F in organic in the worst case, but I would not worry about it. Do well in O-chem on the DAT and it may never arise in the interview.
 
I wouldn't sweat the "F" at all. I got an "F" in O-chem (retook it and got a C+), and had a D in biochem (retook it and got a B). I got interview invites from 7/8 schools I applied to, and got accepted at 4/5 schools I interviewed at, and wait listed at the other. My DAT scores weren't off the charts or anything (just over a 19 science, and 17 PAT, 18 QR, 21 RC). I made sure I knew the O-chem section pretty well, and I got 20 on that part on the test.

Only at 1 interview (CWRU) did they ask about the semester when I didn't do so hot in orgo and bc. I just told them that at the time I was competing for a national championship for the Div.I team I was on, and that it was much easier to workout than to study. The interviewer was an athlete too, so he completely understood.

Anyway - you will be fine. Good luck!
 
Reed1978 said:
I wouldn't sweat the "F" at all. I got an "F" in O-chem (retook it and got a C+), and had a D in biochem (retook it and got a B). I got interview invites from 7/8 schools I applied to, and got accepted at 4/5 schools I interviewed at, and wait listed at the other. My DAT scores weren't off the charts or anything (just over a 19 science, and 17 PAT, 18 QR, 21 RC). I made sure I knew the O-chem section pretty well, and I got 20 on that part on the test.

Yeah, that Biochem was the killer. I got a C+ in that class and should have retaken it, but did not. I ended up retaking O-chem and got a B. What was you GPA, Reed?
 
3.30 is average for dental school. Whoever, told you that you might get in with a 3.30 is full of it. You will get into most dental schools if you can get a 20 or higher on the DAT. Really, the only private dental school that you have no chance is Harvard. Aside from Harvard, you can realistically get acceptance into any private dental school you apply to with a high DAT score.

Focus on the DAT and you will get into nearly every dental school you apply to with a 3.30. There are people on this forum that get in with sub 3.0 so you have nothing to worry about.
 
honest is correct my overall was 3.09 and i did'nt have a problem getting interviews or acceptance letters.
 
Thanks guys for your responses. I still have not taken DAT yet, but will take in 2 weeks. My goal is to get 21 for AA. I don't know why 21 got stuck in my head, hopefully that is the number I?m gonna get 🙂, but honestly, I get pretty scared from seeing bunch of people from this forum getting 23-27. My hope is that they represent only minority of the people that do get in dental schools.
 
DDS2BE said:
Thanks guys for your responses. I still have not taken DAT yet, but will take in 2 weeks. My goal is to get 21 for AA. I don't know why 21 got stuck in my head, hopefully that is the number I?m gonna get 🙂, but honestly, I get pretty scared from seeing bunch of people from this forum getting 23-27. My hope is that they represent only minority of the people that do get in dental schools.

23-27 scores are definitely in the minority. I'd venture to say that a 23-27 is probably less than 2% of test takers...maybe even less than 1%.
 
DDS2BE said:
Thanks guys for your responses. I still have not taken DAT yet, but will take in 2 weeks. My goal is to get 21 for AA. I don't know why 21 got stuck in my head, hopefully that is the number I?m gonna get 🙂, but honestly, I get pretty scared from seeing bunch of people from this forum getting 23-27. My hope is that they represent only minority of the people that do get in dental schools.


Yes, statistically a 24 AA is a 99.5 percentile score. So this board attracts the highest scorers on the DAT.
 
24 AA is 99.5 percentile. Anyone know what percentile a 23 AA is? I've just been assuming to this point that a 17 is 50%. Also, do you think a thread that links score and percentile would be a useful thread?
 
HBomb said:
24 AA is 99.5 percentile. Anyone know what percentile a 23 AA is? I've just been assuming to this point that a 17 is 50%. Also, do you think a thread that links score and percentile would be a useful thread?

I've seen people posting 23 as still in 99th percentile. I guess it also depends on a section. For example 25 on RQ is a lower percentile than same 25 on biology.
 
DDS2BE said:
I've seen people posting 23 as still in 99th percentile. I guess it also depends on a section. For example 25 on RQ is a lower percentile than same 25 on biology.


I'm talking about AA. Individual sections are different.
 
21AA= 96.7 percentile BUT, those percentiles are only good for the 3 month period that you take the test. Schools are not given the percentile you received because they are irrelevant. My buddy got the same Gen chem score as me but my percentile was almost 10 points higher than his. This is because I took the test at a time when very few others were taking it. He took his around mid August which is a very busy time of the apps cycle.
 
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