What is revealed?

[Hornet871]

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I was told that every program that ranks you sees two things:

1) Where you ended up matching
2) Where you ranked THEM (the program in question that ranked you).

Keep in mind that the program you match at DOES NOT see where you ranked them. They just know where they ranked you, and that you matched with them. But the programs you don't match into get to see where you ranked them and where you ended up.

True?

I'm worried b/c I did an externship at a great program that I really liked, but I'm only going to rank it #5 or 6. If they just saw that I matched somewhere else, I could always say to them, "Oh, I loved you guys and put you second, but I wound up at my #1 choice. Sorry."

But if they see that I really put them sixth, they're going to be pissed. They wrote me some great LOR and really went to bat for me.

What's the word?

 

[Hornet871]

So no one knows anything about this?

🙁

 

[mrpeters714]

From the NRMP site regarding confidentiality in the match process:

"The information submitted to the NRMP on both applicant and program Rank Order Lists is confidential. It will not be released nor revealed in any manner that permits individual identification of either applicants or programs."

-mrp

 

[Olanzapine]

Why not just tell them "I ranked you guys highly, but got into my no. 1 choice." The best way to avoid getting in trouble for lying is to not lie.

 

[fourthyear]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure they don't get access to any info except where you matched. That would not be good in any way for anyone if each program saw where you ranked them - plus, if they gave them that info, we should have access to where programs ranked us, which we don't.

I don't think you should make any rank order decisions based on worries of what this program will think if you don't match there. This is your decision, to make the best decision for you. Maybe you loved their program, but after you investigated others, you found they had more of what you were lookign for, or what you were looking for changed, whatever. In any case, I should think this program would understand if you happened to like another program better. They may be dissapointed, but this is your life, and a decision you should make free of guilt for who you owe.

 

[beezar]

I think that program directors see their eventual match lists, maybe compare it with their rank order lists for all of about 1 minute, wonder a little bit, then forget about who didn't match for the rest of their lives. I mean, put yourself in their shoes. You would have a lot more to focus on than which applicant said what.

And I'm sure they know that med students pull that same word game on them that they pull on us... "We plan on ranking you very highly on our lists..." Yeah right...