What is the starting salary for a podiatrist right out of residency (1- 3years)?

[GypsyHummus]

Comon man, don’t Doxx the guy

Your actual name wouldn’t happen to be Gary Atwal, would it?

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[NatCh]

Comon man, don’t Doxx the guy

Is that what you feel I did when he has it all typed out on his avatar? I suggest he delete “Gary” at least.

 

[GypsyHummus]

Private message. These forums are still public and they can see it.

Hopefully he takes the advice and makes himself anonymous.

Is that what you feel I did when he has it all typed out on his avatar? I suggest he delete “Gary” at least.

 

[NatCh]

Private message. These forums are still public and they can see it.

Are you seriously criticizing me?

 

[GypsyHummus]

Seriously? Eh, not really. I think you are helping the lad. I’m sure the dude appreciates it now instead of later when someone finds out during a residency search.

Are you seriously criticizing me?

 

[ExperiencedDPM]

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[ExperiencedDPM]

Is that what you feel I did when he has it all typed out on his avatar? I suggest he delete “Gary” at least.

People that live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones Dr. Natch Senior Moment. You could have at least omitted your middle name.....duh!

 

[ExperiencedDPM]

Thank you for letting me know, I really appreciate it. I apologize for offending anyone, it honestly was not my intention.

Your intention is irrelevant. It’s all about perception. This is the Internet with no eye to eye or personal contact. Therefore, intention vs perception is completely different. It’s sll about how your actions and comments are perceived.

Learn from this and mature from this lesson. I assure you it will benefit you in the future.

 

[dtrack22]

Back to snow, can we have a SDN DPM Park City Winter Conference? I'll set up some sham lectures and give everyone 25 CME for attending. Think about it...

 

[GypsyHummus]

Why snow, Why not tropical paradise when there is no hurricane?

Back to snow, can we have a SDN DPM Park City Winter Conference? I'll set up some sham lectures and give everyone 25 CME for attending. Think about it...

 

[dtrack22]

Why snow, Why not tropical paradise when there is no hurricane?

when you're an attending you can make up your own conference

 

[NatCh]

Back to snow, can we have a SDN DPM Park City Winter Conference? I'll set up some sham lectures and give everyone 25 CME for attending. Think about it...

Count me in. Will there be conference granola? That stuff is delicious.

 

[dtrack22]

Will there be conference granola?

As much as you want. Since I can't pay your speaking fee (don't worry you don't actually have to give a lecture), you will be compensated in granola.

I do ask that you come up with a catchy lecture title for the brochure.

We'll also have a live demonstration and lab where we discuss the biomechanics of initiating a proper turn and maintaining an edge on steeps. This will be done on the mountain and worth 2.0 credit hours

 

[NatCh]

As much as you want. Since I can't pay your speaking fee (don't worry you don't actually have to give a lecture), you will be compensated in granola.

I do ask that you come up with a catchy lecture title for the brochure.

We'll also have a live demonstration and lab where we discuss the biomechanics of initiating a proper turn and maintaining an edge on steeps. This will be done on the mountain and worth 2.0 credit hours

How about, "Current Concepts in Shralping the Gnar?" and "A Retrospective Look at The Effects of the White Room?" That has to be worth discussion.

 

[dtrack22]

How about, "Current Concepts in Shralping the Gnar?" and "A Retrospective Look at The Effects of the White Room?" That has to be worth discussion.

I was thinking something more low key that could appear like it was foot related, but what the heck, do it. If we want to talk about effects of the white room we could probably get Cialis to sponsor...

 

[mǫrk xc]

Thank you for letting me know, I really appreciate it. I apologize for offending anyone, it honestly was not my intention.

Doctoratwal,
Thank you for your multiple apologies. I recognize that you've said "sorry" many times without any anyone acknowledging that. It is impossible to fully understand or realize anyone's true intentions or demeanor via online forums. As an outsider, looking in on these conversations, I see that you're simply doing your research on different aspects of Podiatry as you sort out your career choices. How you are perceived by other online members is not as important as how you are perceived and who you are as a person in life. This applies to every single poster on SDN. When you personally know people in real life that regularly post on here and witness a different portrayal of who they really are, it opens your eyes to their true character. Definitely, give respect to attendings and take advice seriously and constructively, like you are. I'll assure you that one mishap on an online conversation won't ruin your career. In real life, if you're kind, intelligent, and desire to serve others, you'll do very well in any field of medicine.

SDN is good resource. However, I'd highly encourage you to seek out compassionate and experienced podiatrists in real life that can serve as mentors for you. They will provide you with the answers to your questions about Podiatry that you're seeking. One of the most respected figures in our profession once said (in reference to selecting residents), "Stars always shine." Place yourself on a path to becoming one of these stars. It's easy to see who they are. I wish you all the best!

 

[deleted690619]

I’m a pod student that works up close and personal with 3rd year chief residents all the time in clinic. I blatantly ask them what salaries they are receiving. In the Miami area its $70K. But that’s before bonus right? Nope. $70K that’s it. Less than Pharmacy, less than PA, less than NP. It’s actually comical, Atlanta $120K. Just things I’ve heard from the people on the front lines

Edit: these are ATTENDING salary OFFERS that chief residents are receiving. Use deductive reasoning and gather that if they are receiving 120K offers in Atlanta then I must be referring to Attending salaries and not residency

 

[GypsyHummus]

You are asking residents or attendings? You post reads as you ask chief residents. Resident yeah it would make sense that they would make 70k.

If you check out the bls, you can see which states had the highest compensation rate for pods.

I’m a pod student that works up close and personal with 3rd year chief residents all the time in clinic. I blatantly ask them what salaries they are receiving. In the Miami area its $70K. But that’s before bonus right? Nope. $70K that’s it. Less than Pharmacy, less than PA, less than NP. It’s actually comical, Atlanta $120K. Just things I’ve heard from the people on the front lines

 

[Cranjis McBasketball]

I’m a pod student that works up close and personal with 3rd year chief residents all the time in clinic. I blatantly ask them what salaries they are receiving. In the Miami area its $70K. But that’s before bonus right? Nope. $70K that’s it. Less than Pharmacy, less than PA, less than NP. It’s actually comical, Atlanta $120K. Just things I’ve heard from the people on the front

Isnt that high for a resident salary..?

 

[bobtheweazel]

Isnt that high for a resident salary..?

It is on the high end but some residencies do pay about 70K/year.

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[heybrother]

Resident salaries are literally public record. You can look up the pay at any residency through CASPR.

Several years ago before I was a podiatrist I took a 1 day temporary job that payed well, but was awful. I collected my paycheck. 3 days later they called me back and told me I had done such a great job they wanted to hire me for several more jobs at the same pay. ME: "Thank you, but I'm not interested." THEM: "What?!?". (she was actually surprised, it was kind of comical) End of conversation. I didn't take the job.

You'll note that god didn't come down from heaven and force me to take the job. No one put a gun to my head. They didn't have any leverage on me. You don't have to take a bad offer. It may be the only offer you receive in an area and you can decide for yourself whether you'd rather have $0 or $70K. No one here but will disagree that $70K is a bad offer. Negotiate or don't sign.

 

[Loltopsie]

Isnt that high for a resident salary..?

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[deleted690619]

Isnt that high for a resident salary..?

Yes, but we’re referring to Attending salary offers they’re receiving.

 

[Cranjis McBasketball]

Yes, but we’re referring to Attending salary offers they’re receiving.

Oh, well then they obviously wont take those jobs I assume

 

[de Ribas]

personal with 3rd year chief residents all the time in clinic. I blatantly ask them

asked who?

residents?

 

[deleted690619]

asked who?

residents?

So you read my clarified edited post, actively deleted 97% of it after you quoted it, and then asked a question that is already answered in the deleted portion. How tired and pretentious? Let’s keep the thread on topic please.

 

[de Ribas]

So you read my clarified edited post, actively deleted 97% of it after you quoted it, and then asked a question that is already answered in the deleted portion. How tired and pretentious? Let’s keep the thread on topic please.

in the edit you say that these are attending salary offers.

But still, who did you talk to personally, attendings or residents?

 

[Cranjis McBasketball]

in the edit you say that these are attending salary offers.

But still, who did you talk to personally, attendings or residents?

Sounds like he asked 3rd year residents who are actively in the job hunt what salary offers they are receiving

 

[de Ribas]

Sounds like he asked 3rd year residents who are actively in the job hunt what salary offers they are receiving

I thought so too

 

[Pronation]

I don’t think I’d be able to keep a straight face if somebody offered me $70k

 

[Windom Earle]

And I don't know about an average of 135K. The lowest I've seen is BLS which reports a mean for podiatrists of about 144K, though I can't trust them because they also report a mean for "physicians and surgeons" of 206K which is obviously absurd when you look at absolutely every other physician survey and see that primary care physicians average a little over 200K and specialists average over 300K.

The avg is 124k here...Podiatrists : Occupational Outlook Handbook: : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

 

[de Ribas]

The avg is 124k here...Podiatrists : Occupational Outlook Handbook: : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

I think the average at DVA is around 130K or so. And they are trying to get it raised because they can't keep or hire qualified and experienced podiatrists. It means that elsewhere podiatrists get even more.

 

[bobtheweazel]

The avg is 124k here...Podiatrists : Occupational Outlook Handbook: : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

Read my quoted post in full, BLS has very low (inaccurate) estimates for all doctors.

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[Redsting]

Just from residents I worked with in residency, not friends from school etc, contracts I saw

Huge range from 65k with cheap early buy in up to 270k first year salary.

 

[Redsting]

Buy in to a practice that can only afford to pay it's associates 65K? Sounds like they are trying to hand over their crappy, low revenue practices to the naive new grad lol.

Also, aren't high salary offers like 240K+ usually short term contracts that will be terminated sooner than later so that they won't have to pay you even more with raises and bonuses if you stay long term? They will just not offer you a renewal and will just hire a new pod for the same salary and repeat the process right?

On the first point, I wonder that too. The attending is doing very well and she will have some patients day 1 and a nice percent take home after production, I don't recall if she wanted a lower salary to hit production quicker or if the practice wanted it (although I am sure the practice is happy with it).

Second point. That very well maybe true. This contract was a multi year contract and I know they had discussed at the conclusion of the contract moving to an RVU or a % collected but thats years from now and could go south very quick. No one know the future, but what you said does seem like it is the norm. If he is willing to stay and work for whatever he is offered or willing to switch to the RVUs then maybe. I feel like as long as anyone is profitable then the hospital or private practice would be dumb to get rid of them but it happens.

 

[ksp2276]

I take it that you are glad you went the pod route instead of the MD/DO route?

Yeah, I am- I like the lifestyle a lot- however I dont like the restriction in terms of what we can do outside of practice. lots of mds can do consulting be reps do other subspecalities with certification and training.

 

[GypsyHummus]

It looks like the median has jumped up to 127k, so at least things are keeping up with inflation.

The avg is 124k here...Podiatrists : Occupational Outlook Handbook: : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics