What should I do now? Is there hope?

[Regina]

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Well, it’s kind of ambiguous message here, but when I first arrived at high school I planned to become a plastic surgeon, and I am a senior now. All of freshman year I was dedicated to it, then somewhere down the road in sophomore year my mother lost her job. Then more events happened that followed after that, so I picked up a part time job to help with the bills (still do this) that turned into a hectic mess which took a lot of my concentration. That hectic mess was probably what destroyed me.

So my grades suffer, and I dropped my foreign language class so I won’t have an F on my transcript. Then I dropped the harder math classes for easier classes. It was just a disaster these past four years… but then recently I came to a light that I really destroyed my high school career and I cannot go anywhere with, my gpa is a 3.0 by the way. I just blame myself for letting all this happen to me, since I should had realize what was going to happen to me in the future.

So I believe I have to go to a Californian community college then transfer to the University of California, so I can then apply for the Californian medical school (or any medical school but I want to go in to California one because it’s the best place for plastic surgery).

Also during my high school years, I wasn't a student who partied away or had a lot of fun, or even went to the homecoming dance. It just had been intense misery for me, and I just want to get out of here. And to have that medical degree would be amazing, but I am worried if I failed too far behind to get it now.

This is what I want to do for the rest of my life, and I cannot let anything get in my way now. I still want to become a plastic surgeon, what is your advice to make me a competitive applicant again?

 

[houseobsessed]

Well, it’s kind of ambiguous message here, but when I first arrived at high school I planned to become a plastic surgeon, and I am a senior now. All of freshman year I was dedicated to it, then somewhere down the road in sophomore year my mother lost her job. Then more events happened that followed after that, so I picked up a part time job to help with the bills (still do this) that turned into a hectic mess which took a lot of my concentration. That hectic mess was probably what destroyed me.

So my grades suffer, and I dropped my foreign language class so I won’t have an F on my transcript. Then I dropped the harder math classes for easier classes. It was just a disaster these past four years… but then recently I came to a light that I really destroyed my high school career and I cannot go anywhere with, my gpa is a 3.0 by the way. I just blame myself for letting all this happen to me, since I should had realize what was going to happen to me in the future.

So I believe I have to go to a Californian community college then transfer to the University of California, so I can then apply for the Californian medical school (or any medical school but I want to go in to California one because it’s the best place for plastic surgery).

Also during my high school years, I wasn't a student who partied away or had a lot of fun, or even went to the homecoming dance. It just had been intense misery for me, and I just want to get out of here. And to have that medical degree would be amazing, but I am worried if I failed too far behind to get it now.

This is what I want to do for the rest of my life, and I cannot let anything get in my way now. I still want to become a plastic surgeon, what is your advice to make me a competitive applicant again?

Dude, I had a 2.1 gpa and 1360 sat score the first time and I still got admitted into local penn which doesn't help since it's easier haha but yeah, why are you so worried? just do good on the sat and have a good essay and ec and apply.

To be eligible to attend the University of California, you must:
Complete a specific set of 15 college prep courses (known as the "a-g" courses) AND
Take two SAT Subject Tests in two different subject areas (for example, science and English) AND either the ACT plus Writing OR the SAT Reasoning Test.

To be eligible to apply, you must achieve a 3.0 if you are a CA resident. To be competitive requires a lot more. You can see the profiles of admitted students to Berkeley for Fall 2009 (detailed breakdown of GPA, SAT, ACT, SAT II, and other statistics) at http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/ed… on page 39.

 

[Regina]

Well I doubt I'll get in now, since they want a 3.6 gpa, and I am not from California. I am from Michigan, but I want to get into California because I love that state (and for their jobs available)... so right now I am aiming for the community colleges there because then it's almost guaranteed I'll transfer to the university after 2 yrs. It'll be cheaper too. I know I won't get the acceptance regardless... I am not what they are looking for.

I can get there when I transfer if I work hard at their community colleges.

I am more concern about medical school right now since I don't have extra languages on my plate and I'll be entering easier math for college. I want to be perfect for the medical school, and I feel like I am far behind the expectations of medical school.

 

[wristbandMD]

Well, it’s kind of ambiguous message here, but when I first arrived at high school I planned to become a plastic surgeon, and I am a senior now. All of freshman year I was dedicated to it, then somewhere down the road in sophomore year my mother lost her job. Then more events happened that followed after that, so I picked up a part time job to help with the bills (still do this) that turned into a hectic mess which took a lot of my concentration. That hectic mess was probably what destroyed me.

So my grades suffer, and I dropped my foreign language class so I won’t have an F on my transcript. Then I dropped the harder math classes for easier classes. It was just a disaster these past four years… but then recently I came to a light that I really destroyed my high school career and I cannot go anywhere with, my gpa is a 3.0 by the way. I just blame myself for letting all this happen to me, since I should had realize what was going to happen to me in the future.

So I believe I have to go to a Californian community college then transfer to the University of California, so I can then apply for the Californian medical school (or any medical school but I want to go in to California one because it’s the best place for plastic surgery).

Also during my high school years, I wasn't a student who partied away or had a lot of fun, or even went to the homecoming dance. It just had been intense misery for me, and I just want to get out of here. And to have that medical degree would be amazing, but I am worried if I failed too far behind to get it now.

This is what I want to do for the rest of my life, and I cannot let anything get in my way now. I still want to become a plastic surgeon, what is your advice to make me a competitive applicant again?

As a senior, it will be difficult to become competitive before applications are reviewed (in the next few months). There are probably a few four-year schools you could attend in California, seeing as a 3.0 is not a horrible GPA. However, if you do want to transfer to a UC (which is NOT necessary to get into medical school), you should know that the majority of their transfers come from California community colleges.

I would suggest focusing on grades this year and looking into a school that you will get into, be it a four-year in Michigan or California, or a community college.

 

[houseobsessed]

Well I doubt I'll get in now, since they want a 3.6 gpa, and I am not from California. I am from Michigan, but I want to get into California because I love that state (and for their jobs available)... so right now I am aiming for the community colleges there because then it's almost guaranteed I'll transfer to the university after 2 yrs. It'll be cheaper too. I know I won't get the acceptance regardless... I am not what they are looking for.

I can get there when I transfer if I work hard at their community colleges.

I am more concern about medical school right now since I don't have extra languages on my plate and I'll be entering easier math for college. I want to be perfect for the medical school, and I feel like I am far behind the expectations of medical school.

Don't be so hard on yourself, you arn't applying for something like harvard, they need to be perfect, perfect sucks anyway. So you want to go to California, go to community college for 2 years, then transfer to the university, then med school? or you could go to college for 4 years then go to California for med school.... do some research, have some cool ec, shadow, volunteer, and whatnot.

 

[Regina]

Don't be so hard on yourself, you arn't applying for something like harvard, they need to be perfect, perfect sucks anyway. So you want to go to California, go to community college for 2 years, then transfer to the university, then med school? or you could go to college for 4 years then go to California for med school.... do some research, have some cool ec, shadow, volunteer, and whatnot.

Yeah, thanks for the advice. I am probably going to do something like in those lines lol.

I guess I still have hope then.

 

[avatarftw]

I'm sorry about your mother losing her job and for your struggles. HS grades don't matter for medical school; you just need to get into college. (Unless you're applying for a BS/MD or BS/MD program)

Also, plastic surgery is EXTREMELY competitive; the odds of it happening are relatively low.

Finally, most people change their minds several times in medical school in regards to what specialty they want to pursue.

Well, it's kind of ambiguous message here, but when I first arrived at high school I planned to become a plastic surgeon, and I am a senior now. All of freshman year I was dedicated to it, then somewhere down the road in sophomore year my mother lost her job. Then more events happened that followed after that, so I picked up a part time job to help with the bills (still do this) that turned into a hectic mess which took a lot of my concentration. That hectic mess was probably what destroyed me.

So my grades suffer, and I dropped my foreign language class so I won't have an F on my transcript. Then I dropped the harder math classes for easier classes. It was just a disaster these past four years… but then recently I came to a light that I really destroyed my high school career and I cannot go anywhere with, my gpa is a 3.0 by the way. I just blame myself for letting all this happen to me, since I should had realize what was going to happen to me in the future.

So I believe I have to go to a Californian community college then transfer to the University of California, so I can then apply for the Californian medical school (or any medical school but I want to go in to California one because it's the best place for plastic surgery).

Also during my high school years, I wasn't a student who partied away or had a lot of fun, or even went to the homecoming dance. It just had been intense misery for me, and I just want to get out of here. And to have that medical degree would be amazing, but I am worried if I failed too far behind to get it now.

This is what I want to do for the rest of my life, and I cannot let anything get in my way now. I still want to become a plastic surgeon, what is your advice to make me a competitive applicant again?

 

[Regina]

I'm sorry about your mother losing her job and for your struggles. HS grades don't matter for medical school; you just need to get into college. (Unless you're applying for a BS/MD or BS/MD program)

Also, plastic surgery is EXTREMELY competitive; the odds of it happening are relatively low.

Finally, most people change their minds several times in medical school in regards to what specialty they want to pursue.

Why would it not happen for me if I aim for it, if I make it my goal, based on that most people change their minds anyways. I am pretty concrete on this.

Just saying, it was a helpful post yet it seem like it was to discourage me from being a plastic surgeon (not the medical field).

 

[QuizzicalApe]

Anyone with whom the original poster rings a bell should read the following and apply it to their own life. This isn't for Regina as much since, well, she seems to be trolling pretty hard:

Residencies only care about your USMLE Step 1 score, clinical grades, pre-clinical grades, research, and how well you interview (which will be in 8 or 9 years).

Med schools care about how well you do in college (not where you go to college), your clinical experiences in college, your volunteer work, research, and signs that you are a real human being and not a cabbage or something.

Colleges care about how you perform in high school, but for the above reasons it won't matter for your career goal if you can pull yourself together.

chill out, brosefs

 

[Druggernaut]

Don't worry about going to a school in California. I think you'd be worse off. It'll take more readjusting, which will make your college grades worse. And California medical schools are very difficult to get into, and it's not going to matter whether you went to them when applying for a plastic surgery residency/fellowship. I'm also assuming you think it would be best to go to California for plastics since that's where all the movie stars are, but that doesn't have much bearing on training to be a plastic surgeon. No way they'd trust a resident to do their cosmetic work, they'd go to the private practice guy who also wouldn't dream of spending his time training residents.

 

[orthomyxo]

I'm sorry about your mother losing her job and for your struggles. HS grades don't matter for medical school; you just need to get into college. (Unless you're applying for a BS/MD or BS/MD program)

Also, plastic surgery is EXTREMELY competitive; the odds of it happening are relatively low.

Finally, most people change their minds several times in medical school in regards to what specialty they want to pursue.

This. Just to put things into perspective, not many pre-meds actually get into med school. If you're lucky enough to be one of the few that does, chances are you will not match into plastics. Not trying to be mean, it's just a good thing to know before you become dead-set on a specialty years before it's even applicable to you.

 

[Regina]

This. Just to put things into perspective, not many pre-meds actually get into med school. If you're lucky enough to be one of the few that does, chances are you will not match into plastics. Not trying to be mean, it's just a good thing to know before you become dead-set on a specialty years before it's even applicable to you.

How do I match into plastics?

 

[Ragman]

You are still in high school. There is plenty of hope.

If plastic surgery is your aspiration, go for it. But just make sure that in case you don't make it the first time around, you still have a financially secure backup plan (that you enjoy as well).

 

[orthomyxo]

How do I match into plastics?

I give up.

 

[Regina]

I give up.

I know, the only career besides this that I would be fine with is psychiatrist.
I guess that will be my backup job to pay the bills.

I'll focus on getting into college first.

 

[wristbandMD]

I know, the only career besides this that I would be fine with is psychiatrist.
I guess that will be my backup job to pay the bills.

I'll focus on getting into college first.

IF you even end up going to medical school, you will have a chance to experience a variety of specialties. You may find that surgery is not your forte, or that you're much more interested in another specialty and plastics isn't your number one.

Don't get yourself stuck in a "I have to be a ____ doctor" mindset. It will only hurt you in the long run.

As you said, focus on getting into college first. Ignore this forum until you're in college and completing pre-med classes.

 

[mmmcdowe]

I know, the only career besides this that I would be fine with is psychiatrist.
I guess that will be my backup job to pay the bills.

I'll focus on getting into college first.

A wise choice.

 

[luke587]

ha dont talk about physciatry being easy either, thats a specialty within medicine

Oh i guess ill be this type of doctor because plastics is overrated

I hate to be mean, but your so far ahead its unreal and once you get into a university reality is going to slap you in the face, you'll find out that its hard and have to compete to get A's in your courses let alone get into the medical school at Berkely..Sorry but its people like you that make me angry, you dont even have a high school diploma and you already know what type of doctor your going to be, go volunteer in a hospital job shadow, once you get into medical school go through rotations you will change your mind

 

[Regina]

ha dont talk about physciatry being easy either, thats a specialty within medicine

Oh i guess ill be this type of doctor because plastics is overrated

I hate to be mean, but your so far ahead its unreal and once you get into a university reality is going to slap you in the face, you'll find out that its hard and have to compete to get A's in your courses let alone get into the medical school at Berkely..Sorry but its people like you that make me angry, you dont even have a high school diploma and you already know what type of doctor your going to be, go volunteer in a hospital job shadow, once you get into medical school go through rotations you will change your mind

Oh, hard, let's not define that here.

Reality did met me, and that is why I am going to go to college, and eventually medical school.

 

[Regina]

Oh, you're right, medical school or college to begin with aren't my passions, well at least I been dabbling in those thoughts to really concrete if I should go with what I wanted to in the beginning.

Kind of solved my problem, thinking it out, to do anything besides "this". Still I have to do it.

I'll be fine financially, probably more than fine, making millions. Thousands are play money, but then money doesn't matter. Making a difference in society does, and doctors do not do that, unless you're Doctor Phil.

I'll be famous, and I don't care how I get it. Trolling here for too long, I'll leave quietly... since you do not even know me, and you won't even know if I made it. Bye.

 

[justjeter2001]

"Making a difference in society does, and doctors do not do that, unless you're Doctor Phil"


Someone please tell me that she didn't just say that plastic surgeons make a difference in society, and doctors don't, except they are dr. phil"

sorry gf, going to have to disagree with you there. I'm quite positive that my brother that has stage 4 kidney and stomach cancer is being treated by a doctor who is making a difference in my brothers life, i.e., keeping him alive and trying his best to keep him comfortable. But you're right, when it all comes down to it, if another baywatch celebrity needed another breast implant then by all means, feel free to push my brother off his hospital bed and "make you're difference in society"

i apologize to any mods who want to slap me on the wrist for responding with a slight tone. But I joined this board to hopefully get to know some people that can help me with questions that I need help with while helping my mom take care of my incredibly sick brother, and to hear someone post such drivel just makes a mockery of the seriousness of these types of forums.

 

[orthomyxo]

Clearly the OP is an enormous troll.

/thread

 

[Regina]

"Making a difference in society does, and doctors do not do that, unless you're Doctor Phil"


Someone please tell me that she didn't just say that plastic surgeons make a difference in society, and doctors don't, except they are dr. phil"

sorry gf, going to have to disagree with you there. I'm quite positive that my brother that has stage 4 kidney and stomach cancer is being treated by a doctor who is making a difference in my brothers life, i.e., keeping him alive and trying his best to keep him comfortable. But you're right, when it all comes down to it, if another baywatch celebrity needed another breast implant then by all means, feel free to push my brother off his hospital bed and "make you're difference in society"

i apologize to any mods who want to slap me on the wrist for responding with a slight tone. But I joined this board to hopefully get to know some people that can help me with questions that I need help with while helping my mom take care of my incredibly sick brother, and to hear someone post such drivel just makes a mockery of the seriousness of these types of forums.

Well it's my opinion, and I stand back behind it. And here's why, who is your brother? Why should I, and the rest of society, even care? Why should I even care about you? And if that doctor didn't exist, wouldn't there be another doctor to replace him.

Sorry, but all professions are equal in that, you're completely replaceable no matter who you are. The ones that are not replaceable are the ones that made a huge difference in society forever.

Being a cashier, being a doctor, being a teacher, being a garbage man, it's all the same deal; replaceable.

 

[da8s0859q]

I know, the only career besides this that I would be fine with is psychiatrist.
I guess that will be my backup job to pay the bills.

I'll be fine financially, probably more than fine, making millions. Thousands are play money, but then money doesn't matter. ... I'll be famous, and I don't care how I get it. Trolling here for too long, I'll leave quietly... since you do not even know me, and you won't even know if I made it. Bye.

Bye.

 

[justjeter2001]

Well it's my opinion, and I stand back behind it. And here's why, who is your brother? Why should I, and the rest of society, even care? Why should I even care about you? And if that doctor didn't exist, wouldn't there be another doctor to replace him.

Sorry, but all professions are equal in that, you're completely replaceable no matter who you are. The ones that are not replaceable are the ones that made a huge difference in society forever.

Being a cashier, being a doctor, being a teacher, being a garbage man, it's all the same deal; replaceable.

Well it's my opinion, and I stand back behind it. And here's why, who is your brother? Why should I, and the rest of society, even care? Why should I even care about you? And if that doctor didn't exist, wouldn't there be another doctor to replace him.

Sorry, but all professions are equal in that, you're completely replaceable no matter who you are. The ones that are not replaceable are the ones that made a huge difference in society forever.

Being a cashier, being a doctor, being a teacher, being a garbage man, it's all the same deal; replaceable.

Let me get out my chalk and write on a black board to make it simple for you. First of all, i hope you actually graduate high school. You should probably get a tutor to teach you basic english writing skills. Secondly, that wasn't your original hit and run comment. you werent talking about equality and everyone being replaced. You clearly stated that "a plastic surgeon is a contributing member of society and other doctors aren't, except dr. phil" it was just an extremely unintelligent statement for someone to post on a site full of aspiring DOCTORS. I never denied that a plastic surgeon wasn't a legitimate Dr. I am just shocked that you think they are above doctors who actually save peoples lives. having said
that, i will tell you this. If my words wouldn't violate TOS, I would bury you verbally for the comments you made against my brother when i was trying to give you an example. How about this, why don't we just stay clear of each other and keep the boards free from bickering about nonsense.

 

[Seahawk]

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I love these threads 😀

My favorite one is the vitreo retinal ophthalmologist guy 🤣

 

[da8s0859q]

My favorite one is the vitreo retinal ophthalmologist guy 🤣

Avastin guy? I remember that. And then there was the guy who got all pissy with us because I (and many others) patted him on the back for wanting to start reading "medical books", but told him he was jumping the gun.

Funny place, this SDN.

 

[justjeter2001]

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I love these threads 😀

My favorite one is the vitreo retinal ophthalmologist guy 🤣

i must have missed that one, was that thread as ridiculous as this one?

 

[orthomyxo]

Avastin guy? I remember that. And then there was the guy who got all pissy with us because I (and many others) patted him on the back for wanting to start reading "medical books", but told him he was jumping the gun.

Funny place, this SDN.

The medical book one was a classic. We need moar quality hSDN threads like that. Now all we get is random crap and threads asking if it's possible to specialize in anesthesiology AND neurosurgery.

i must have missed that one, was that thread as ridiculous as this one?

No, it was worse.

P.S. read the sign: :troll:

 

[justjeter2001]

Quote:
Originally Posted by justjeter2001
i must have missed that one, was that thread as ridiculous as this one?

No, it was worse.

P.S. read the sign: :troll:


you're right chops, i shoudn't have even engaged in that kind of banter. I know better than that. onward and upward!!

 

[luke587]

Yeah sorry to hear about your home life situation or whatever you've gone through Regina, but in all reality your conceptions of medicine are so far off its unreal, and you look like a idiot. I dont care what you end up doing, but by listening to you i can already tell you won't make it past first year pre-reqs

 

[jl lin]

Well it's my opinion, and I stand back behind it. And here's why, who is your brother? Why should I, and the rest of society, even care? Why should I even care about you? And if that doctor didn't exist, wouldn't there be another doctor to replace him.

Sorry, but all professions are equal in that, you're completely replaceable no matter who you are. The ones that are not replaceable are the ones that made a huge difference in society forever.

Being a cashier, being a doctor, being a teacher, being a garbage man, it's all the same deal; replaceable.

WoW😱

If you have never had a teacher, doctor, nurse, whomever make such an impact that it made a difference in your life, than I feel sad.

Ultimately it always comes down to the character and quality of the person inside the "suit"/title.

What's your point here, really?

And if a person has an attitude that can be moved to a philosphy where one human life can replace another, well, that is not the kind of person I want caring for me, in any capacity. Think about it.

 

[avatarftw]

How are you absolutely sure that you want to be a plastic surgeon, let alone a doctor? You're WAY early in the process; you may very well decide you want to become a psychologist or businessperson in college.

Some CA friends have told me that a solid, relatively little-known back door into the UC system is through the community colleges...good luck.

Well, it’s kind of ambiguous message here, but when I first arrived at high school I planned to become a plastic surgeon, and I am a senior now. All of freshman year I was dedicated to it, then somewhere down the road in sophomore year my mother lost her job. Then more events happened that followed after that, so I picked up a part time job to help with the bills (still do this) that turned into a hectic mess which took a lot of my concentration. That hectic mess was probably what destroyed me.

So my grades suffer, and I dropped my foreign language class so I won’t have an F on my transcript. Then I dropped the harder math classes for easier classes. It was just a disaster these past four years… but then recently I came to a light that I really destroyed my high school career and I cannot go anywhere with, my gpa is a 3.0 by the way. I just blame myself for letting all this happen to me, since I should had realize what was going to happen to me in the future.

So I believe I have to go to a Californian community college then transfer to the University of California, so I can then apply for the Californian medical school (or any medical school but I want to go in to California one because it’s the best place for plastic surgery).

Also during my high school years, I wasn't a student who partied away or had a lot of fun, or even went to the homecoming dance. It just had been intense misery for me, and I just want to get out of here. And to have that medical degree would be amazing, but I am worried if I failed too far behind to get it now.

This is what I want to do for the rest of my life, and I cannot let anything get in my way now. I still want to become a plastic surgeon, what is your advice to make me a competitive applicant again?

 

[skierbum]

there is always hope PERIOD. Grad schools will not ask to see your high school grades. And colleges usually have a place for you to mention any personal hardships and will consider them.

 

[GoodmanBrown]

Don't sweat it. Get yourself out of the situation that's causing you problems. Go to a community college for 1-2 years, then transfer into a 4 year school. Med school starts a whole new ballgame, and your high school stuff doesn't matter then.

 

[Celestor]

Regina, dear.... don't take this the wrong way but........ you sound like an idiot, and I hope to god your trolling.

 

[UVMMedHopeful]

You're still in high school.. so you're what, 17-18 perhaps? Focus on actually getting INTO college first before you start assuming you're going to become some big shot plastic surgeon in California. It's good to have goals, but you also need to be actually realistic with yourself. You first need to get into a community college/transfer to a 4 year after a couple years, get amazing grades in college, especially in the premed prereqs (i.e. Chemistry, Organic Chem, Physics, Biology, Calc, etc), not to mention to volunteer in a clinical setting, research, etc. You need to focus on college first before you assume you'll get into a California med school and then on to a plastic surgery residency.. and so on. Besides, after taking some of those prereqs you may not even want to do medicine after all, you could find yourself liking something completely different. So just focus on getting in college first and figuring it out while you're there.

 

[Seahawk]

FWIW: I used to say I wanted to be an orthodontist, until I did my homework (late senior year). Now I realize I sounded like an idiot, and I realized why my dad told me when he heard me say the orthodontist mess "NEVER tell the ADCOMS you want to be a specialty."

Once most serious premeds/dents do their research on the schooling, they will most likely drop the specialty talk. That's my experience anyway.

Oh and here is the link for Vitreo Retinal Opthalmologist guy

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=10025334

 

[ButImLETired]

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I love these threads 😀

My favorite one is the vitreo retinal ophthalmologist guy 🤣

Avastin guy? I remember that. And then there was the guy who got all pissy with us because I (and many others) patted him on the back for wanting to start reading "medical books", but told him he was jumping the gun.

Funny place, this SDN.

Hahaha both quality, quality threads. Gotta hand it to the trolls, they really make my life more entertaining.

 

[the duck]

I loved that optho thread because it just seems such a random specialty to pick. I hadn't even heard of it before that guy!

OP: Best of luck to you in life!

 

[Seahawk]

Same here duck! Hahaha.