What US Senators think of CRNAs vs Anesthesiologists

[imfrankie]

---

Members do not see this ad.

Yea I remember seeing that when it aired years ago. This guy is a living example of someone who has bought the nursing propaganda that nursing focuses on the "whole patient" while medicine focuses on "the disease." This garbage statement is absolutely meaningless of course, but it sounds really insightful to the lay-public and nobody ever presses the clowns that spew it out to give examples/contrasts between the two fields.

This guy gets an audience on CNN and the AMA can't find a spokesperson to provide the physician perspective? Doesn't serve us well.

 

[pgg]

This guy gets an audience on CNN and the AMA can't find a spokesperson to provide the physician perspective? Doesn't serve us well.

The AMA has not served us well since ... well, not since I can remember. I cancelled my membership a while ago. They're not our advocates at all.

 

[imfrankie]

The AMA has not served us well since ... well, not since I can remember. I cancelled my membership a while ago. They're not our advocates at all.

Same here. Isn't their real business in keeping proprietary diagnostic medical codes, or some such?

 

[pgg]

Same here. Isn't their real business in keeping proprietary diagnostic medical codes, or some such?

Yes.

Their other core competency appears to be telling Congress that unrestricted access to free medical care is a human right, that doctors don't mind pay cuts so long as they have the privilege of taking care of the sick, and that anyone who isn't doing primary care in an underserved area is overpaid. It's as if the place is run by a bunch of first year medical students who flunked out before reality beat the selfless naive idealism out of them ...

 

[Gern Blansten]

yes.

Their other core competency appears to be telling congress that unrestricted access to free medical care is a human right, that doctors don't mind pay cuts so long as they have the privilege of taking care of the sick, and that anyone who isn't doing primary care in an underserved area is overpaid. It's as if the place is run by a bunch of first year medical students who flunked out before reality beat the selfless naive idealism out of them ...

+1

 

[Deanmonster]

Yea I remember seeing that when it aired years ago. This guy is a living example of someone who has bought the nursing propaganda that nursing focuses on the "whole patient" while medicine focuses on "the disease." This garbage statement is absolutely meaningless of course, but it sounds really insightful to the lay-public and nobody ever presses the clowns that spew it out to give examples/contrasts between the two fields.

That guy's only complaint was that he can't prescribe more narcotics. As if the family docs loading up their patients on oxycontin wasn't bad enough, now we'll have NP's doing it, too.

 

[MiracleforMD]

So little recap here:
CNN guy: "What are the pros and cons of an increase in responsibility/powers of NPs?"
NP: "I support NPs expanding their roles in order to increase access to healthcare for ALL of AMERICA."

...soooo, pros and cons?


CNN guy: "What would an expanded role involve?"
NP: "I'd like to bill independently and receive reimbursement equal to physicians, without their supervision. Oh, and drugs....narcotic drugs."

This increases access to healthcare how?

 

[gasattack3]

That little bitch has the gall to sit there on national television and say that crap, then go back to work and look his physician "boss's" in the eye, and not feel like a total douche bag? Wow.

Either that or it's his physician bosses (for now) really lack the stones to continue to allow a tool like that to work for them or even under/with them.. Then again, he's probably a paid employee of the hospital, and thus doesn't technically answer to them from a financial perspective???

 

[yappy]

Yeah... that segment was pretty BS. The interviewer was throwing soft balls to the RN and manufactured that whole "debate" / "pro/con" as a love letter to the nursing profession.

I think it would have been more interesting if they had a physician included in the segment and then someone involved in public health or health policy who runs numbers daily - not some limp-writed-americorps kid either - a real healthcare rainman that could blow through the dogma.

Edit: @ 1:48, after he says that nurses are the foundation to health care, the NP searches for words to describe what he does and says that he "practices healthcare". I don't think I've ever heard that before...

 

[doctor712]

You know what US Congressmen think of illegitimate rape?

IDIOT.

D712

 

[AngryBird69]

It appears the AANA is outbidding the ASA in terms of PAC dollars?

 

[deleted126335]

It appears the AANA is outbidding the ASA in terms of PAC dollars?

No. They just have the biggest health care PAC- (The American Hospital Association) singing their song. Anything that gives the perception of a cost saving going forward will win.

 

[gasattack3]

No. They just have the biggest health care PAC- (The American Hospital Association) singing their song. Anything that gives the perception of a cost saving going forward will win.

I agree that we very much live in a world where perception IS the reality. So, how do we go about changing that perception????

 

[Bane]

lol, the AMA doesn't give a $h!t about doctors.