What was Weaver saying to Abby about the Match?

[bc_tch]

I just got distracted by a phone call when they were talking..if anyone saw the whole thing would you please let me know what was going on there..was weaver trying to do something illegal?? Thanks.

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[orthoman5000]

You have got to love the inaccuracies on ER. It's the day before graduation and they are still working in hospital and don't know where they are going to match yet.

 

[castaway]

yeah did not get that either, and why was Abby so ticked off

true about the inaccuracies of the show, like taking step 2 weeks before graduating, jeeeez....

 

[chuck deli]

What Weaver was saying is that if Abby does in fact fail her boards the second time, she would be unable to start her internship year on time. And "hypothetically" Cook County ranked her highly...therefore it would be disappointing if she re-failed and "a hospital" (read: Cook County) missed out on one (over-worked and underpaid) resident.

 

[Sean2tall]

So she was saying they could delete her from their rank list or something so as not to be stuck with her?

 

[8744]

I love that show but my Lord, those medical students are pretty freaking squared away. Not only do they always know the answer to a question but they are up on the latest literature, have a detailed treatment plan, and are confident enough to argue with their attendings.

And I thought it was funny how they were working hard on an Emergency Medicine rotation when, all of a sudden, "Oh ****, hey, I need to take a couple of hours off to go graduate....be back in a bit!"

Har har. If the public only knew.

 

[orthoman5000]

I love how at the end the attendings say to Abby "I'll see you at work." As if she is just going to continue to do rotations in the Cook County ER after graduation.

 

[flighterdoc]

Probably is. In the world of TV ER medicine, you can probably take shifts as a nurse in addition to your resident workload. Yeah, that whole "matching" scenario annoyed me. Weaver was talking as though if abby matched but yet failed step II, they would be stuck for an entire year minus one first year resident. Hmmm...I guess that's what they get for having their own personal match day 2 months after the actual one. No good candidates left to scramble in!

I think it's about time for a helicopter to fall on Weaver.

 

[southerndoc]

I think it's about time for a helicopter to fall on Weaver.

They could've timed it with the NBC station's helicopter crash in NYC.

 

[Adcadet]

and don't forget how med students do all of their rotations in the ER - and how those rotations last months. Abby's on psych this week, so she'll still be in the ER. Oh, now she's on surgery, still in the ER.

Don't even get me started on Nila (sp?) doing some research while still doing an ER rotation. I was particularly amused when she was in the lab with her white (clinical) coat on, complete with stethescope. Good thing she could read the protocol to figure out the lab was using the wrong ELISA reagent (mouse rather than human primary antibody I think).

 

[Jalopycat]

Does anyone remember when Carter graduated from med school? He missed graduation because he decided to stay in the ER and stay with a dying patient.

Funny, I thought rotations were over by graduation day!

 

[Jaded Soul]

Medical school has made me disinterested in this show more and more. To the "general public," I'm sure it's interesting for the drama using medicine as a backdrop. In that world, no one cares if the students are always in the ER or are still doing rotations during graduation. Now, I physically cringe and yell at my TV every time one of the med students opens their mouth on the show.

 

[Mr. Rosewater]

you guys do know that every show on TV has a group of pple who do what they're doing on the show in real life. all these pple ever do is talk about how innacurate said show is, and the truth is, no one cares at all. 999 out of 1000 pple will never be med students, as long as the show's entertaining, they could give a flying F how accurate it is. i personally like the show and also could care less about accuracy.

 

[orthoman5000]

you guys do know that every show on TV has a group of pple who do what they're doing on the show in real life. all these pple ever do is talk about how innacurate said show is, and the truth is, no one cares at all. 999 out of 1000 pple will never be med students, as long as the show's entertaining, they could give a flying F how accurate it is. i personally like the show and also could care less about accuracy.

Mr. Alex DeLarge,

This anti-social behavior of yours must stop. Have you been missing your treatments? Time to cue up Beethoven's 9th 😀 😀 😀

 

[Adcadet]

it gets hard to watch when you're unable to comprehend why a conversation is happening (Abby-Weaver) because of why you know about how the real world works. And it's annoying to think that some people may now think that all med students do is hang out in the ER.

 

[EMDrMoe]

you guys do know that every show on TV has a group of pple who do what they're doing on the show in real life. all these pple ever do is talk about how innacurate said show is, and the truth is, no one cares at all. 999 out of 1000 pple will never be med students, as long as the show's entertaining, they could give a flying F how accurate it is. i personally like the show and also could care less about accuracy.

Flying F's aside 🙂 , I do agree with your premise. I don't watch ER for the medical accuracy (I go to med school for that - well, sort of) any more than I'd watch a soap opera to learn how to succeed in my marriage. Granted, it was hard to figure out what the heck was going on for a bit with the boards/match/graduation timing!

 

[Mr. Rosewater]

Mr. Alex DeLarge,

This anti-social behavior of yours must stop. Have you been missing your treatments? Time to cue up Beethoven's 9th 😀 😀 😀

actually, i've just been cured 😀




...... by the removal of that irksome karma feature

 

[LovelyRita]

Flying F's aside 🙂 , I do agree with your premise. I don't watch ER for the medical accuracy (I go to med school for that - well, sort of) any more than I'd watch a soap opera to learn how to succeed in my marriage. Granted, it was hard to figure out what the heck was going on for a bit with the boards/match/graduation timing!

Yeah that was extremely confusing. Has anyone ever seen the comedian who says "If it weren't for that horse, I would have never had to go to college"---he was waxing on how sometimes you hear people say things that make absolutely no sense and as you try to figure it out your head explodes. That's what the whole abby/weaver conversation was like. Wha..?

 

[Doc Ivy]

WAIT
I thought Weaver was trying to coerce/blackmail Abby into changing her rank list so that she would match at County instead of at some other hospital that would give her the boot when they found out she hadn't passed her boards.... maybe I'm wrong but I got the impression that Weaver was saying she would "overlook" the missing Step II if Abby reranked County #1

 

[Fermi]

Fortunately, Abby responded by saying that if she were dropped, she'd go tell the residency match list people that Weaver talked to her, which was against the rules - and Weaver backed down.

I don't think anything that happened there (inaccurate as the whole situation was) was against NRMP rules. Neither of them specifically indicated where they ranked each other on their lists, and more importantly, neither of them specifically asked each other where they were ranked. Isn't it within the rules to voluntarily tell the other party that you are ranking them "X," as long as long as you're not soliciting the same information from them in order to make a deal?

I don't like Abby anyway, and I haven't for a long time. Especially this season, where she just seems to know everything, even more than all the attendings she works with, while they portray Neela as the big idiot who is only good for research because she's Asian.

 

[flighterdoc]

I don't think anything that happened there (inaccurate as the whole situation was) was against NRMP rules. Neither of them specifically indicated where they ranked each other on their lists, and more importantly, neither of them specifically asked each other where they were ranked. Isn't it within the rules to voluntarily tell the other party that you are ranking them "X," as long as long as you're not soliciting the same information from them in order to make a deal?

I don't like Abby anyway, and I haven't for a long time. Especially this season, where she just seems to know everything, even more than all the attendings she works with, while they portray Neela as the big idiot who is only good for research because she's Asian.

I think it is against the rules - it's the other side of offering a residency outside the match (against the rules except for FMG's). Weaver was trying to get Abby to withdraw her application.

And, I like Abbey - a non-traditional med student (whoo-hoo), who knows a lot about EM because she's been an EM nurse for years, and Neela isn't an idiot (she consistently outscored Abby on tests, etc), she lacks confidence - as that red headed dope smoker did.

BTW, I pitty whats his name (the resident who was called up to serve in the Army?) - showing up to Ft. Sam Houston IN UNIFORM with that scraggly-assed beard isn't going to win him any points.

 

[mollybo]

while they portray Neela as the big idiot who is only good for research because she's Asian.

Neela's Indian, right?

 

[flighterdoc]

Neela's Indian, right?

Pujabi, IIRC. Her family lives in Britain, she was showing them around the ED last week.

 

[Xmulder]

I would like to say that I cannot *stand* Abby. I hate that name, her face, her voice, everything about her. I can't see at all why Carter was so into her, and almost proposed to her. She is a dessicated, dried up average woman, who smokes like a pipe, drinks like a fish, has no life outside the hospital, no life priorities (toward career or marriage/kids), and is utterly plain w/ nothing special about her. Goodness, I can't stand when she comes up on the screen.

Weaver is just as bad, just in a different way.

Why don't they add a woman who is actually good looking to the show? Like the French chick Luca met in Africa?

 

[flighterdoc]

I would like to say that I cannot *stand* Abby. I hate that name, her face, her voice, everything about her. I can't see at all why Carter was so into her, and almost proposed to her. She is a dessicated, dried up average woman, who smokes like a pipe, drinks like a fish, has no life outside the hospital, no life priorities (toward career or marriage/kids), and is utterly plain w/ nothing special about her. Goodness, I can't stand when she comes up on the screen.

Weaver is just as bad, just in a different way.

Why don't they add a woman who is actually good looking to the show? Like the French chick Luca met in Africa?

Gee, so Abby is almost "real"?

And, I'd say that she did find some career goals, she got back into school and graduated.

Weaver's just a bitch.

 

[MoCookiess]

I think you guys have it wrong. Weaver wanted Abby to change her ranked list to put the hospital she works in now (is it Cook County?) at the top, so that if she didn't pass step II, she wouldn't be dropped from whatever internship she matched at. Weaver was going to give Abby more time to try to pass it, whereas the other program she ranked higher would probably just have dropped her. Abby was pissed though because i) they shouldn't have that sort of conversation ii) everyone was assuming Abby wouldn't pass it the second time.

When I was watching this with all my friends (non-medical) they turned to me and said "What?!? Melissa - What's going on? What the heck are they talking about?!?" lol

 

[Yogi Bear]

Gee, so Abby is almost "real"?

And, I'd say that she did find some career goals, she got back into school and graduated.

Weaver's just a bitch.

why does she walk w/ a limp and needs a little brace?

 

[8744]

Look, I love ER. But I have noticed a trend in the show where the dialogue is being replaced with politically correct platitudes. I hope they don't go the way of "Chicago Hope" or "LA law" which became, in the end, platforms for liberal angst.

My absolute favorite medical show is "Strong Medicine" on Lifetime. This show is an utter fantasy, a liberal's wet-dream of what is right and wrong with modern medicine. It was created, I believe, by Whoopi Goldberg so you can get a sense of the nature of this show. The dialogue is so stilted and the agenda of the writers is so clearly displayed that it is wonderful to watch. My wife, who also enjoys the show, slaps me on the hand and says, "Bad Republican!" whenever one of the characters comes down from her soapbox. We never miss it.

 

[Jaded Soul]

why does she walk w/ a limp and needs a little brace?

It's never been explained. Seeing as how she's been around since like Season 2 and it's now Season 10, it will probably never be.

 

[Amy B]

WAIT
I thought Weaver was trying to coerce/blackmail Abby into changing her rank list so that she would match at County instead of at some other hospital that would give her the boot when they found out she hadn't passed her boards.... maybe I'm wrong but I got the impression that Weaver was saying she would "overlook" the missing Step II if Abby reranked County #1

That is what I thought as well.

 

[johnd]

That is what I thought as well.

Then why would abby have gotten so pissed at weaver and threatened to contact the NRMP?

 

[flighterdoc]

Then why would abby have gotten so pissed at weaver and threatened to contact the NRMP?

I realize it's hollywood, but why in the hell would anyone who worked under weaver as a nurse/med student want to match there? She's got a toxic personality, she's screwed over residents over her own mistakes, and she's just an annoying bitch.

There are better programs to match into

 

[Amy B]

Then why would abby have gotten so pissed at weaver and threatened to contact the NRMP?

I thought she was trying to let Weaver know she couldn't be bought off and that she was above doing something against the rules. I thought Weaver was trying to help her out as repayment to Abby for comforting her when the baby thing was going on.

 

[1996]

I think it is against the rules - it's the other side of offering a residency outside the match (against the rules except for FMG's). Weaver was trying to get Abby to withdraw her application.

It is definitely NOT against the rule. Whatever Weaver was trying to convice Abby to do, she didn't ask her where she ranked the County program. Volunteering the info of where an applicant is ranked is totally legal, as long as the program director does not ask the applicant to reveal his/her rank list. What would be illegal would be "I will rank you number one if you rank us number one." However, saying "we ranked you number one, so as long as you rank us number one, you can match here." is not illegal. After the interview process and before the deadline for rank lists submission, these kinds of exchanges occur frequently. Applicants would receive emails/letters/phone calls from programs saying they have ranked them very highly. Applicants would write letters of intent telling their top choice programs that they have ranked them high. It is a fair game.

 

[Doc Ivy]

I would like to say that I cannot *stand* Abby. I hate that name, her face, her voice, everything about her. I can't see at all why Carter was so into her, and almost proposed to her.

As cruel as this is, I was glad the Carter didn't propose to Abby... he's too nice to be with someone so screwed up.

Oh and Dr. Gallant....hot (I would even overlook the military thing for a piece of THAT)

 

[MacGyver]

I havent watched ER in several years. What the hell? Abby is now a med student and graduating? When did that happen?

 

[alianwaar4]

i missed the last few minutes of yesterdays episode...i saw when neela was saying she wanted to withdraw from the residency at U Mich...what happened after that???

 

[opus03]

i missed the last few minutes of yesterdays episode...i saw when neela was saying she wanted to withdraw from the residency at U Mich...what happened after that???

Yeah, could someone fill us in on last night's episode?? Please.... 😳

 

[SolidGold]

why does she walk w/ a limp and needs a little brace?

How in the hell did she become a cripple in the first place?

 

[Vincristine]

i missed the last few minutes of yesterdays episode...i saw when neela was saying she wanted to withdraw from the residency at U Mich...what happened after that???

what happened after that? Nothing, silly, it was the season finale.

As for a recap -- what we'll ponder until the fall:
1. Will Carrie get custody of her son (they went to court and landed a judge who's supposedly conservative)?
2. How will Abby handle being an MD (she passed her boards and will start her residency "tomorrow")?
3. Will JinMae, Pratt and a random patient be shot/harmed by a guy with road rage? (JinMae came to work with a black eye from her father, then Pratt left with her for dinner in his fancy new car...pissed some guy off who then pulled out a gun.)
4. How will Carter recover from loosing the baby? (He was throwing himself into work, but saved a boys life.)
5. What's Neela's deal? (She drove to her residency -- transitional year and then derm at UofM -- and then started crying to the PD that she didn't have control over this choice and that she didn't think she could be a doctor.)

I think that's it.

Edit: Oh, and 6. Sam's and her kid pack up everything and drive out of Chicago because her Ex has found a job and plans to stay in Chicago. Sam's on the run again because she wants away from the creep. The kid calls Kovach before they leave to come try to talk Sam out of going.

 

[SolidGold]

5. What's Neela's deal? (She drove to her residency -- transitional year and then derm at UofM -- and then started crying to the PD that she didn't have control over this choice and that she didn't think she could be a doctor.)

In real life, she would not be able to get another residency through the match for I think its 5 years, because she broke a contract by refusing her residency spot at UM (a great residency too, in derm no less). But, of course she'll probably end up back at Cook County next season as an intern, if she stays on the show that is. The incredible inaccuracies of the show really make me laugh.

 

[Vincristine]

How in the hell did she become a cripple in the first place?

I was pretty sure that she has mild CP. I was pretty sure they came out at some point.

 

[Vincristine]

In real life, she would not be able to get another residency through the match for I think its 5 years, because she broke a contract by refusing her residency spot at UM (a great residency too, in derm no less). But, of course she'll probably end up back at Cook County next season as an intern, if she stays on the show that is. The incredible inaccuracies of the show really make me laugh.

I was thinking this same thing. (Yeah, obviously it's a fabulous residency, though most people wouldn't really know that.) I figure she'll leave and some how come back to County despite the fact that she shouldn't be an ER doc.

 

[Fermi]

I was thinking this same thing. (Yeah, obviously it's a fabulous residency, though most people wouldn't really know that.) I figure she'll leave and some how come back to County despite the fact that she shouldn't be an ER doc.

I don't know, I was thinking that Parminder Nagra (the actor who plays Neela) was only looking for a short term role on ER since she is probably in demand for a lot of other projects. I don't think she will be back.

 

[Jaded Soul]

I was pretty sure that she has mild CP. I was pretty sure they came out at some point.

Like I wrote earlier in this thread, it's never been explained. The common misconception is that it's due to polio. Laura Innes has said in interviews that she based the disability on someone she knew with polio. I've never heard the CP theory.

 

[Jaded Soul]

I don't know, I was thinking that Parminder Nagra (the actor who plays Neela) was only looking for a short term role on ER since she is probably in demand for a lot of other projects. I don't think she will be back.

She's under contract for 30 episodes. I think she was in all 22 last season, so she's still got some time to serve before she can decide to leave.

For those interested in spoilers, check out http://www.erspoilerheadquarters.com/. Who knows if the spoilers there are true, but they mention the aftermath of Neela quitting the residency.