What's your fall back position?

[Corolla11]

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If you can't find a job when you finish pharmacy school due to the coming surplus, what is your fall back position- your "backup" job? I haven't put much thought into this because it's not something that I like to think about but it's best to be prepared for the worst.

 

[Passion4Sci]

House husband.

 

[Corolla11]

house husband.

lol

 

[delano2000]

House husband.

Seems like a perfect gig to me.👍

 

[Praziquantel86]

I'm getting a CDL and enrolling in an online DNP school while making cross-country hauls. I'll then get my online CRNA certification, move to a state where they practice independently, and make more money than I would have as a pharmacist.

I don't know why I don't just do this regardless.

 

[rxlea]

Residency or PhD. Defer the loans as much as possible 🙂 Or work as a Grad intern until something is available. But, I am thinking residency would be at the top of my list.

 

[phathead]

Why plan for something that won't happen?

 

[ArkansasRanger]

House husband.

That would actually be my first choice. I keep one hell of a clean house. 😀

Of course I'd have to be married for that to be effective.

 

[Passion4Sci]

That would actually be my first choice. I keep one hell of a clean house. 😀

As do I. And my wife detests domesticity and housework. So while she splits dish-washing with me sometimes, I pretty much am completely in charge of everything. Laundry, ironing, cooking definitely (Unless I want to eat ramen or tofu all day...), dog walking, etc.

Not that I'm complaining. I was raised in a completely female household, my dad was always gone, so I got used to it. By contrast, Tarryn was raised in a male-dominated HH, where she spent a lot of time in cornfields in Nebraska, and other jobs like that so she kind of got into that mindset.

Since we're not doing the kid thing, there's a limit to how much house husband'ing I could do, so I am sure I'd find some way to put my Pharm.D to use.

But honestly, I think the changing gender roles will be good for society. We still get a lot of "What the hell?" kind of looks from our friends but whatever! We've been married a whole helluva lot longer than anyone else I know.

 

[ArkansasRanger]

As do I. And my wife detests domesticity and housework. So while she splits dish-washing with me sometimes, I pretty much am completely in charge of everything. Laundry, ironing, cooking definitely (Unless I want to eat ramen or tofu all day...), dog walking, etc.

Not that I'm complaining. I was raised in a completely female household, my dad was always gone, so I got used to it. By contrast, Tarryn was raised in a male-dominated HH, where she spent a lot of time in cornfields in Nebraska, and other jobs like that so she kind of got into that mindset.

Since we're not doing the kid thing, there's a limit to how much house husband'ing I could do, so I am sure I'd find some way to put my Pharm.D to use.

But honestly, I think the changing gender roles will be good for society. We still get a lot of "What the hell?" kind of looks from our friends but whatever! We've been married a whole helluva lot longer than anyone else I know.

Nice. I've never found one I wanted to marry although something along the lines of corporate attorney, neurosurgeon, or some other profession that's never home is preferable.


lol I'm kidding.


Well, not really.



Yeah, I think I am.

 

[Passion4Sci]

Nice. I've never found one I wanted to marry although something along the lines of corporate attorney, neurosurgeon, or some other profession that's never home is preferable.


lol I'm kidding.


Well, not really.



Yeah, I think I am.

LOL... too true. I am sure logging 3000 billable hours a year will keep her plenty busy. At some BigLaw vault firms, they have showers on certain floors because associates have to spend so much time there.

But she's a go-getter, and it's hard for there to be 2 go-getters in a relationship. If it comes down to her career vs. mine, mine's the one to go.

 

[ArkansasRanger]

LOL... too true. I am sure logging 3000 billable hours a year will keep her plenty busy. At some BigLaw vault firms, they have showers on certain floors because associates have to spend so much time there.

But she's a go-getter, and it's hard for there to be 2 go-getters in a relationship. If it comes down to her career vs. mine, mine's the one to go.

When I worked for the park service, hence the Ranger in my name, which is just a term I've grown to like for whatever reason and let the record show I did not lead tours or walk around in shorts waving at people, there were a lot of other guys who moved in with wives who had better jobs than the rangering gig would ever be. Granted, there was free family sized houses and utilities for us, but one guy I worked with had a wife who made over four times what he made as a ranger. She followed him. I'd have probably done the opposite. They liked the natural scenery. I always thought $160,000 bring home would've made for a very scenic front lawn, but who am I to judge.

 

[Tinkerbell22]

I'd also live in the free house even if I was netting 160,000. lol. But hey I'm cheap and don't like spending much time at home anyway haha

 

[ArkansasRanger]

I'd also live in the free house even if I was netting 160,000. lol. But hey I'm cheap and don't like spending much time at home anyway haha

Yeah, I'm sure they would have too, but the 160k that she had was two states over. It wasn't exactly across town.

 

[ChemistWiz]

Male stripper.

 

[JEW UNIT]

Male stripper.

+1 👍.....😀

 

[Tinkerbell22]

Yeah, I'm sure they would have too, but the 160k that she had was two states over. It wasn't exactly across town.

So she quit to follow him so he didn't have to lose his ranger job? Or ? I'm a bit confused, however if that is the case then no, I would not leave the job for a free home, unless I reallyyy hated my job.

 

[WVUPharm2007]

Being as though I'm apparently in this position...if I don't find a job by October, I'm taking the GRE and going back to school. I'm looking into pharmacology PhD programs right now.

Unless this recession ends and more jobs get created...it is going to be UGLY next year at this time.

 

[ArkansasRanger]

So she quit to follow him so he didn't have to lose his ranger job? Or ? I'm a bit confused, however if that is the case then no, I would not leave the job for a free home, unless I reallyyy hated my job.

She decided to forgo her corporate career so he could follow his dream of rangering. All the uniformed park people got a free house, and we were required to live in them.

 

[Passion4Sci]

Being as though I'm apparently in this position...if I don't find a job by October, I'm taking the GRE and going back to school. I'm looking into pharmacology PhD programs right now.

Unless this recession ends and more jobs get created...it is going to be UGLY next year at this time.

That is a really good idea. With a Pharm.D and a Ph.D., you would have sooo much flexibility and leverage.

 

[SHC1984]

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0oG76sU1.../job/Pharmaceutical-Sales-Representative.html

Pharmaceutical sales rep

 

[SHC1984]

House husband.

Wouldn't be a bad idea either....too bad I can't cook. 🙁

 

[UNMorBUST]

Wouldn't be a bad idea either....too bad I can't cook. 🙁

House wife right😉.

 

[UNMorBUST]

Being as though I'm apparently in this position...if I don't find a job by October, I'm taking the GRE and going back to school. I'm looking into pharmacology PhD programs right now.

Unless this recession ends and more jobs get created...it is going to be UGLY next year at this time.

Move to New Mexico. There are a few spots open down here for you and your wife.

 

[SHC1984]

House wife right😉.

Yeah, that would be a dream come true. If I can just marry well and not have to work. But then again thats what we all want.

 

[WVUPharm2007]

Move to New Mexico. There are a few spots open down here for you and your wife.

Where? I'll send a resume.

I've sent resumes everywhere from Florida to Nevada to Arizona to Minnesota to Oregon and everywhere in between. I'm fine with NM...

 

[deleted329060]

nursing

 

[delano2000]

Where? I'll send a resume.

I've sent resumes everywhere from Florida to Nevada to Arizona to Minnesota to Oregon and everywhere in between. I'm fine with NM...

Have you checked out Texas? I have seen several positions over the past few weeks. My hospital was even hiring as well.

 

[WVUPharm2007]

Have you checked out Texas? I have seen several positions over the past few weeks. My hospital was even hiring as well.

Yes.

Unless you have licensure in that state, you are pretty much ignored, though.

 

[pinksparkly]

I'll pop out another kid, desperately hoping for a girl.

 

[UNMorBUST]

Where? I'll send a resume.

I've sent resumes everywhere from Florida to Nevada to Arizona to Minnesota to Oregon and everywhere in between. I'm fine with NM...

PM sent.

 

[whatbout2morrow]

Why not an MBA?

 

[UNMorBUST]

Why not an MBA?

They are worthless unless you already have a job.

 

[byork]

Probably astronaut

 

[whatbout2morrow]

They are worthless unless you already have a job.

Golly.... it wouldn't help increase chances at a job at all?

 

[phathead]

They are worthless unless you already have a job.

How do you figure? Most of the pharmacy jobs I'm eyeing long term require a MBA before being hired.

 

[UNMorBUST]

Golly.... it wouldn't help increase chances at a job at all?

Having an MBA without work experience is like doing a surgery without ever cutting a person open before. The people who benefit from an MBA are people who already have a job and want to move up in their field.

 

[whatbout2morrow]

Having an MBA without work experience is like doing a surgery without ever cutting a person open before. The people who benefit from an MBA are people who already have a job and want to move up in their field.

So basically the PharmD/MBA combined programs out there are worthless??

 

[phathead]

Having an MBA without work experience is like doing a surgery without ever cutting a person open before. The people who benefit from an MBA are people who already have a job and want to move up in their field.

Maybe if you're in pharmacy, but I do think it's slightly different when you have a background in it. My BS is in business so I'm not obtuse to the field at all. I know many many places that hire new MBA grads who were not working there previously.

 

[UNMorBUST]

So basically the PharmD/MBA combined programs out there are worthless??

They are not useless if you plan on becoming a DOP. However, they are not going to show a preference when it comes to a staff pharmacist.

 

[phathead]

They are not useless if you plan on becoming a DOP. However, they are not going to show a preference when it comes to a staff pharmacist.

Oh god no, that's not what I was suggesting at all.

I'm talking more upper-level management and corporate pharmacy stuff

 

[whatbout2morrow]

Oh god no, that's not what I was suggesting at all.

I'm talking more upper-level management and corporate pharmacy stuff

And pharma marketing managerial positions, not to mention any old field where an MBA would be useful...

 

[UNMorBUST]

Maybe if you're in pharmacy, but I do think it's slightly different when you have a background in it. My BS is in business so I'm not obtuse to the field at all. I know many many places that hire new MBA grads who were not working there previously.

Ok maybe im coming off wrong. When it comes to MBA's, work experience is everything. Most top programs require work experience for acceptance. Is it impossible to get a job without prior experience? No. Is it more difficult? Most definatly Yes. Top posistions in companys are hard to get. It is far easier to have a job coming out of school if you already work there or you have extensive experience in the field. A school like Harvard which is #1 has a 71% job placement at graduation. If you go to say UCLA which is #15 only about 50% have jobs at graduation. I can only imagine if you go to an unranked school or the U of Pheonix.

 

[phathead]

Ok maybe im coming off wrong. When it comes to MBA's, work experience is everything. Most top programs require work experience for acceptance. Is it impossible to get a job without prior experience? No. Is it more difficult? Most definatly Yes. Top posistions in companys are hard to get. It is far easier to have a job coming out of school if you already work there or you have extensive experience in the field. A school like Harvard which is #1 has a 71% job placement at graduation. If you go to say UCLA which is #15 only about 50% have jobs at graduation. I can only imagine if you go to an unranked school or the U of Pheonix.

ohhh gotcha now

yea, one of the things most people don't realize about MBAs is that it truly does matter where you get it from, at least if you're a straight up new grad lookin' for a job

 

[joetrisman]

Ditto to whoever opted on the nurse practioner. Alternatively, I'd start looking into Phd programs in either immunology or epidemiology.

 

[ChemistWiz]

ohhh gotcha now

yea, one of the things most people don't realize about MBAs is that it truly does matter where you get it from, at least if you're a straight up new grad lookin' for a job

Isn't it like that for most degrees?

 

[goatmeal]

. My BS is in business so I'm not obtuse to the field at all. I know many many places that hire new MBA grads who were not working there previously.

just out of curiosity do you have to have a BS in business to be accepted in an MBA program

 

[goatmeal]

Ditto to whoever opted on the nurse practioner. Alternatively, I'd start looking into Phd programs in either immunology or epidemiology.

are you looking for a job in research ? I think Ohio state has a PhD in medical chemistry/pharm.D. program but it only shaves a year off. cause I think its like 7 years long.

just wondering what type of jobs would PhD in epidemiology/ phar.D. get you? would it be like a public health gov. job?

 

[Corolla11]

are you looking for a job in research ? I think Ohio state has a PhD in medical chemistry/pharm.D. program but it only shaves a year off. cause I think its like 7 years long.

just wondering what type of jobs would PhD in epidemiology/ phar.D. get you? would it be like a public health gov. job?

Sounds difficult to get into

 

[delano2000]

Yes.

Unless you have licensure in that state, you are pretty much ignored, though.

So why not apply to get licensed here as well? They have some spots out in the metro-cities and even more out in west Texas.