What's your fall back position?

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If you can't find a job when you finish pharmacy school due to the coming surplus, what is your fall back position- your "backup" job? I haven't put much thought into this because it's not something that I like to think about but it's best to be prepared for the worst.
 
I'm getting a CDL and enrolling in an online DNP school while making cross-country hauls. I'll then get my online CRNA certification, move to a state where they practice independently, and make more money than I would have as a pharmacist.

I don't know why I don't just do this regardless.
 
Residency or PhD. Defer the loans as much as possible 🙂 Or work as a Grad intern until something is available. But, I am thinking residency would be at the top of my list.
 
ArkansasRanger said:
That would actually be my first choice. I keep one hell of a clean house. 😀
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As do I. And my wife detests domesticity and housework. So while she splits dish-washing with me sometimes, I pretty much am completely in charge of everything. Laundry, ironing, cooking definitely (Unless I want to eat ramen or tofu all day...), dog walking, etc.

Not that I'm complaining. I was raised in a completely female household, my dad was always gone, so I got used to it. By contrast, Tarryn was raised in a male-dominated HH, where she spent a lot of time in cornfields in Nebraska, and other jobs like that so she kind of got into that mindset.

Since we're not doing the kid thing, there's a limit to how much house husband'ing I could do, so I am sure I'd find some way to put my Pharm.D to use.

But honestly, I think the changing gender roles will be good for society. We still get a lot of "What the hell?" kind of looks from our friends but whatever! We've been married a whole helluva lot longer than anyone else I know.
 
Passion4Sci said:
As do I. And my wife detests domesticity and housework. So while she splits dish-washing with me sometimes, I pretty much am completely in charge of everything. Laundry, ironing, cooking definitely (Unless I want to eat ramen or tofu all day...), dog walking, etc.

Not that I'm complaining. I was raised in a completely female household, my dad was always gone, so I got used to it. By contrast, Tarryn was raised in a male-dominated HH, where she spent a lot of time in cornfields in Nebraska, and other jobs like that so she kind of got into that mindset.

Since we're not doing the kid thing, there's a limit to how much house husband'ing I could do, so I am sure I'd find some way to put my Pharm.D to use.

But honestly, I think the changing gender roles will be good for society. We still get a lot of "What the hell?" kind of looks from our friends but whatever! We've been married a whole helluva lot longer than anyone else I know.
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Nice. I've never found one I wanted to marry although something along the lines of corporate attorney, neurosurgeon, or some other profession that's never home is preferable.


lol I'm kidding.


Well, not really.



Yeah, I think I am.
 
ArkansasRanger said:
Nice. I've never found one I wanted to marry although something along the lines of corporate attorney, neurosurgeon, or some other profession that's never home is preferable.


lol I'm kidding.


Well, not really.



Yeah, I think I am.
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LOL... too true. I am sure logging 3000 billable hours a year will keep her plenty busy. At some BigLaw vault firms, they have showers on certain floors because associates have to spend so much time there.

But she's a go-getter, and it's hard for there to be 2 go-getters in a relationship. If it comes down to her career vs. mine, mine's the one to go.
 
Passion4Sci said:
LOL... too true. I am sure logging 3000 billable hours a year will keep her plenty busy. At some BigLaw vault firms, they have showers on certain floors because associates have to spend so much time there.

But she's a go-getter, and it's hard for there to be 2 go-getters in a relationship. If it comes down to her career vs. mine, mine's the one to go.
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When I worked for the park service, hence the Ranger in my name, which is just a term I've grown to like for whatever reason and let the record show I did not lead tours or walk around in shorts waving at people, there were a lot of other guys who moved in with wives who had better jobs than the rangering gig would ever be. Granted, there was free family sized houses and utilities for us, but one guy I worked with had a wife who made over four times what he made as a ranger. She followed him. I'd have probably done the opposite. They liked the natural scenery. I always thought $160,000 bring home would've made for a very scenic front lawn, but who am I to judge.
 
I'd also live in the free house even if I was netting 160,000. lol. But hey I'm cheap and don't like spending much time at home anyway haha
 
ArkansasRanger said:
Yeah, I'm sure they would have too, but the 160k that she had was two states over. It wasn't exactly across town.
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So she quit to follow him so he didn't have to lose his ranger job? Or ? I'm a bit confused, however if that is the case then no, I would not leave the job for a free home, unless I reallyyy hated my job.
 
Being as though I'm apparently in this position...if I don't find a job by October, I'm taking the GRE and going back to school. I'm looking into pharmacology PhD programs right now.

Unless this recession ends and more jobs get created...it is going to be UGLY next year at this time.
 
Tinkerbell22 said:
So she quit to follow him so he didn't have to lose his ranger job? Or ? I'm a bit confused, however if that is the case then no, I would not leave the job for a free home, unless I reallyyy hated my job.
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She decided to forgo her corporate career so he could follow his dream of rangering. All the uniformed park people got a free house, and we were required to live in them.
 
WVUPharm2007 said:
Being as though I'm apparently in this position...if I don't find a job by October, I'm taking the GRE and going back to school. I'm looking into pharmacology PhD programs right now.

Unless this recession ends and more jobs get created...it is going to be UGLY next year at this time.
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That is a really good idea. With a Pharm.D and a Ph.D., you would have sooo much flexibility and leverage.
 
WVUPharm2007 said:
Being as though I'm apparently in this position...if I don't find a job by October, I'm taking the GRE and going back to school. I'm looking into pharmacology PhD programs right now.

Unless this recession ends and more jobs get created...it is going to be UGLY next year at this time.
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Move to New Mexico. There are a few spots open down here for you and your wife.
 
whatbout2morrow said:
Golly.... it wouldn't help increase chances at a job at all?
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Having an MBA without work experience is like doing a surgery without ever cutting a person open before. The people who benefit from an MBA are people who already have a job and want to move up in their field.
 
UNMorBUST said:
Having an MBA without work experience is like doing a surgery without ever cutting a person open before. The people who benefit from an MBA are people who already have a job and want to move up in their field.
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So basically the PharmD/MBA combined programs out there are worthless??
 
UNMorBUST said:
Having an MBA without work experience is like doing a surgery without ever cutting a person open before. The people who benefit from an MBA are people who already have a job and want to move up in their field.
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Maybe if you're in pharmacy, but I do think it's slightly different when you have a background in it. My BS is in business so I'm not obtuse to the field at all. I know many many places that hire new MBA grads who were not working there previously.
 
phathead said:
Maybe if you're in pharmacy, but I do think it's slightly different when you have a background in it. My BS is in business so I'm not obtuse to the field at all. I know many many places that hire new MBA grads who were not working there previously.
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Ok maybe im coming off wrong. When it comes to MBA's, work experience is everything. Most top programs require work experience for acceptance. Is it impossible to get a job without prior experience? No. Is it more difficult? Most definatly Yes. Top posistions in companys are hard to get. It is far easier to have a job coming out of school if you already work there or you have extensive experience in the field. A school like Harvard which is #1 has a 71% job placement at graduation. If you go to say UCLA which is #15 only about 50% have jobs at graduation. I can only imagine if you go to an unranked school or the U of Pheonix.
 
UNMorBUST said:
Ok maybe im coming off wrong. When it comes to MBA's, work experience is everything. Most top programs require work experience for acceptance. Is it impossible to get a job without prior experience? No. Is it more difficult? Most definatly Yes. Top posistions in companys are hard to get. It is far easier to have a job coming out of school if you already work there or you have extensive experience in the field. A school like Harvard which is #1 has a 71% job placement at graduation. If you go to say UCLA which is #15 only about 50% have jobs at graduation. I can only imagine if you go to an unranked school or the U of Pheonix.
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ohhh gotcha now

yea, one of the things most people don't realize about MBAs is that it truly does matter where you get it from, at least if you're a straight up new grad lookin' for a job
 
phathead said:
. My BS is in business so I'm not obtuse to the field at all. I know many many places that hire new MBA grads who were not working there previously.
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just out of curiosity do you have to have a BS in business to be accepted in an MBA program
 
joetrisman said:
Ditto to whoever opted on the nurse practioner. Alternatively, I'd start looking into Phd programs in either immunology or epidemiology.
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are you looking for a job in research ? I think Ohio state has a PhD in medical chemistry/pharm.D. program but it only shaves a year off. cause I think its like 7 years long.

just wondering what type of jobs would PhD in epidemiology/ phar.D. get you? would it be like a public health gov. job?
 
goatmeal said:
are you looking for a job in research ? I think Ohio state has a PhD in medical chemistry/pharm.D. program but it only shaves a year off. cause I think its like 7 years long.

just wondering what type of jobs would PhD in epidemiology/ phar.D. get you? would it be like a public health gov. job?
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Sounds difficult to get into
 
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