When is being an attending worse than being a resident?

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I recently read that "life as an attending in certain fields is harder than life as a resident in those fields." This seems counterintuitive, since I always hear that residency is so bad and being an attending is blissful and flexible. Guessing this isn't always the case. Which fields is being an attending more stressful than being a resident in?

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I recently read that "life as an attending in certain fields is harder than life as a resident in those fields." This seems counterintuitive, since I always hear that residency is so bad and being an attending is blissful and flexible. Guessing this isn't always the case. Which fields is being an attending more stressful than being a resident in?

As a resident, you have a safety net and work hour restrictions. As an attending, you don't. Then there is added stress with running a business, etc.
 
I recently read that "life as an attending in certain fields is harder than life as a resident in those fields." This seems counterintuitive, since I always hear that residency is so bad and being an attending is blissful and flexible. Guessing this isn't always the case. Which fields is being an attending more stressful than being a resident in?
When you realize you are alone without a safety net. When you are wrong and someone gets hurt or dies because of it. When you watch children die. When you get sued. When your department or service is going to hell and you can’t just kick your feet up and go: “oh well! I’m just a resident!”

You may work less as an attending than a resident but you work way harder and with a higher stress level.
 
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I recently read that "life as an attending in certain fields is harder than life as a resident in those fields." This seems counterintuitive, since I always hear that residency is so bad and being an attending is blissful and flexible. Guessing this isn't always the case. Which fields is being an attending more stressful than being a resident in?
When you realize that the work hour restrictions don't apply to you and that you really are the last line of defense. I remember being scared poopless the first time I took call as an attending and realized I was the backup everyone else would be calling.
 
Imagine being the lone OBGYN on call for a weekend. L&D is full of mom's to be all-weekend. Several of them first timers. You've gotta round on the post-partum or post-op patients. Someone else just came in bleeding. The potential for no sleep is far greater for the attending.
 
Reasons that people have told me that attendings have it harder than residents:

1) Work hours. There are no work hour restrictions for attendings. There are also no work hour restrictions for florists, but they don't work 80 hours per week either. Attendings don't work resident hours because they quit jobs that make them work resident hours. The only attendingss I know who routinely work more than residents are in short (1-2 year) partnership tracks with sweat equity. They can work 100 hours per week or more, but they know what they're doing it for and if they want they can walk away if they decide that its not worth it after all. Finally there aren't really any work hours for residents in the first place. Most residents I knew broke hours, and a lot of us weren't even close.

2) Back up. As a resident you have your attendings to come running, as an attending you have no one. Except... bull****. In most jobs as an attending you have attending colleagues that support you and consultants for the really hard questions. As a resident, when you ask your attendings a question they have every incentive to make you absolutely miserable to make sure you don't ask them any more questions in the future. As long as you don't take a truly isolated job (i.e. the only ED or OB doc in the hospital) you will probably have more support as an attending than as a resident.

3) Guilt. As a resident you aren't really responsible for your patients, and attendings are. Except that any resident who is even halfway decent human being owns his patients emotionally and ethically. Which is fine if your attending is also good, but when they're shoddy or stupid you now feel ethically responsible for bad a situation you can't control.

4) Risk. Attendings can get sued. Except that in a lawsuit you have the right to a defense, and in almost all cases even if you lose the payment comes from your insurance rather than you. Residents can be extended, which costs them hundreds of thousands of their own money and is career maiming, or just fired, which is career ending. And if you're facing discipline as a resident your accuser is also your judge and jury. I never really felt safe until I was out of residency.

My experience is that attendings who complain about being attendings are usually doing it in the context of responding to a resident's complaint or concern. I have never heard any of my non-academic colleagues wish that they were back in residency.
 
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Reasons that people have told me that attendings have it harder than residents:

1) Work hours. There are no work hour restrictions for attendings. There are also no work hour restrictions for florists, but they don't work 80 hours per week either. Attendings don't work resident hours because they quit jobs that make them work resident hours. The only attendingss I know who routinely work more than residents are in short (1-2 year) partnership tracks with sweat equity. They can work 100 hours per week or more, but they know what they're doing it for and if they want they can walk away if they decide that its not worth it after all. Finally there aren't really any work hours for residents in the first place. Most residents I knew broke hours, and a lot of us weren't even close.

2) Back up. As a resident you have your attendings to come running, as an attending you have no one. Except... bull****. In most jobs as an attending you have attending colleagues that support you and consultants for the really hard questions. As a resident, when you ask your attendings a question they have every incentive to make you absolutely miserable to make sure you don't ask them any more questions in the future. As long as you don't take a truly isolated job (i.e. the only ED or OB doc in the hospital) you will probably have more support as an attending than as a resident.

3) Guilt. As a resident you aren't really responsible for your patients, and attendings are. Except that any resident who is even halfway decent human being owns his patients emotionally and ethically. Which is fine if your attending is also good, but when they're shoddy or stupid you now feel ethically responsible for bad a situation you can't control.

4) Risk. Attendings can get sued. Except that in a lawsuit you have the right to a defense, and in almost all cases even if you lose the payment comes from your insurance rather than you. Residents can be extended, which costs them hundreds of thousands of their own money and is career maiming, or just fired, which is career ending. And if you're facing discipline as a resident your accuser is also your judge and jury. I never really felt safe until I was out of residency.

My experience is that attendings who complain about being attendings are usually doing it in the context of responding to a resident's complaint or concern. I have never heard any of my non-academic colleagues wish that they were back in residency.

All of the above posts.
Also...
As a surgeon, having something go wrong in the OR and trying to fix it (after crapping your pants) because you're it, and no one else is coming to bail you out.


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I can’t answer for this specific case (going to school next year), but I can comment on the responsibility and liability. After I earned my professional engineering license and had to sign and seal my first set of plans, I was a lot more stressed than I had ever been before. There was a weight of understanding that I was completely responsible for the plans and for any possible issues, including deaths, that could arise. Definitely not as stressful as being a physician, but I can understand how the responsibility and liability make it more stressful.


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The best way I've heard it from multiple friends and a spouse that are surgical attendings ranging from 1-4 years out of residency, "It never really gets better, it just gets different." Sure the pay is better and there is somewhat "more control" over your schedule in some aspects, but there's no safety net anymore unless you have great partners. You could be up all night doing emergent cases and still have a full day of clinic or cases to go. There are no hour restrictions.

Right now, as a surgical resident, I'm almost like a grandparent in the sense that I get to do all the fun stuff and then hand the patients back to the attending when I'm done. These patients however belong to my attendings forever if we've made a scar on them somewhere. Maybe in non-surgical fields it's not as jarring of a transition but this is what I've observed thus far.
 
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