When should I talk about money for jobs?

[mpdoc2]

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I've been invited for a second interview for a private practice job as a full time physician. I really don't see a point of going to the interview unless the job has the ballpark income I'm expecting. When is it appropriate to talk about money/ partnership terms?

 

[BlondeDocteur]

At the interview, I should think.

 

[mpdoc2]

At the interview, I should think.

I want to know the ballpark figure before I go on a 2nd interview.

 

[P Diddy]

Then you should have asked at the first interview. It is entirely appropriate to do so.

p diddy

 

[gutonc]

I want to know the ballpark figure before I go on a 2nd interview.

Then you should have asked at the first interview. I realize this is something that's not always easy to ask about or that we're ever told we should do, but it's a legitimate question.

At this point, you can either send an email with the question or just go and ask then.

 

[Shikima]

You need to ask what the responsibilities of your new position are and what the monetary compensation will be for that position.

 

[Winged Scapula]

Typically those things are addressed during the first interview as otherwise everyone is just wasting each others time if the pay is not what's expected.

 

[Law2Doc]

I'm going to go against the grain on this one. In a business/professional job setting, unlike residency/fellowship it's really not unreasonable or unusual not to talk terms until both parties decide there's a mutual interest. I'd say sometime in the second interview they will bring it up, but I don't think it's all that unusual that it wasn't mentioned in the first interview, nor would I email about it. Hinting at wanting a Ballpark figure before the second interview will smack of the wrong attitude. Most people with prior careers outside of medicine will tell you we have all gone on many interviews where the terms, once revealed just wouldn't work. But you have to play the game. Most places won't be that interested in the guy who is only interested in talking to them if they are paying over X. Some places don't even decide what X is until they flesh out your experiences and abilities and if they like you what it would take to get you (salaries are not all lockstep -- Gawande had a good article ("Timepieces"?) on negotiating surgical salaries a few years back).

 

[maxxor]

I'm going to go against the grain on this one. In a business/professional job setting, unlike residency/fellowship it's really not unreasonable or unusual not to talk terms until both parties decide there's a mutual interest. I'd say sometime in the second interview they will bring it up, but I don't think it's all that unusual that it wasn't mentioned in the first interview, nor would I email about it. Hinting at wanting a Ballpark figure before the second interview will smack of the wrong attitude. Most people with prior careers outside of medicine will tell you we have all gone on many interviews where the terms, once revealed just wouldn't work. But you have to play the game. Most places won't be that interested in the guy who is only interested in talking to them if they are paying over X. Some places don't even decide what X is until they flesh out your experiences and abilities and if they like you what it would take to get you (salaries are not all lockstep -- Gawande had a good article ("Timepieces"?) on negotiating surgical salaries a few years back).

Piecework

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2005/04/04/piecework

 

[SoCuteMD]

I interviewed in one location that is notorious for low salaries and my potential salary was discussed with me at each interview (I did not bring it up - I knew the range of salaries and the numbers I heard at interview were within 10,000 of what I knew). The jobs outside of that location did not bring up salary until the offer came, but each place only interviewed me once. I probably wouldn't be willing to spend a second day interviewing without knowing the compensation IF compensation were particularly important to me (it isn't, I'm in academics).