Where did you get accepted/ Interviewed with Average Stats

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

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Average meaning a LizzyM of around a 2 +/- 60 ( gpa x 10 + Mcat score).


So the reason I ask is due to a curiosity of mine, DO stats seem to be very bimodal. And as such if a candidate is actually an average one I want to know where they would fall in, i.e accepted to low or high tier schools or etc.


Form:

===Demographics====
Ethnicity: ( URM or Not)
State of Residency:
==================


==Stats===
Mcat score:
Cgpa:
Sgpa:
=========

== Date Submitted===
Application Cycle Year:
Application Date of Primary:
Secondary Submitted average:
Secondary date of submission for accepted/ interviewed Schools:
Interview dates:
Interview dates of schools accepted:
==================

==Applications====
Number of schools applied:
What schools interviewed you:
What schools accepted you:
Schools In-state that interview/ accepted you:
===============

====Extras=======
DO or MD Letter:
Research Experience:

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

Looks like not many ppl falling that range XD

 

[GUH]

Do you mean 58-62 range? That's kind of tight.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

Do you mean 58-62 range? That's kind of tight.

58 = 3,4 + 24 to 3.6 to 26

 

[littlegreen88]

62.1 . Northeast (not NY) resident. Primary: late July . Secondaries: early September.
Applied: 9 DO schools.
Interview invites: KCUMB LECOM-B invited in sept for October dates. LECOM-E in oct for january. NYCOM- November for November date.
Waitlisted: KCUMB- nov
Accepted: LECOM-b - nov and NYCOM-dec.
Had 1 do letter and one md.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

Below or different than that gets into the uncompetitive range.

 

[hopefulDO08]

59
Primary: August
Secondary: October
Interviews: ACOM & SOMA both in January
Accepted: ACOM & SOMA in January

 

[LovesBikes]

LizzyM score 62. (3.4 cGPA, 3.7sGPA, 28Q)

Applied to 6 DO schools in January, complete late January. IL resident, non-URM, non-trad.

Accepted: KCOM, AZCOM
Waitlisted: MUCOM
Interviews scheduled: SOMA, LECOM
Also applied: CCOM

MD letter only. Hope this helps!

 

[Back 5]

LizzyM score 62. (3.4 cGPA, 3.7sGPA, 28Q)

Applied to 6 DO schools in January, complete late January. IL resident, non-URM, non-trad.

Accepted: KCOM, AZCOM
Waitlisted: MUCOM
Interviews scheduled: SOMA, LECOM
Also applied: CCOM

MD letter only. Hope this helps!

Why did you apply so late?

 

[CjOz]

65.5. Texas resident white male. Applied to all Texas schools on June 21. interviews at El Paso and tcom (sept). Pre matched to tcom on December 6th and went wt the acceptance. I would have taken tcom over El Paso (MD school) anyway.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

62.1 . Northeast (not NY) resident. Primary: late July . Secondaries: early September.
Applied: 9 DO schools.
Interview invites: KCUMB LECOM-B invited in sept for October dates. LECOM-E in oct for january. NYCOM- November for November date.
Waitlisted: KCUMB- nov
Accepted: LECOM-b - nov and NYCOM-dec.
Had 1 do letter and one md.

That sounds good.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

59
Primary: August
Secondary: October
Interviews: ACOM & SOMA both in January
Accepted: ACOM & SOMA in January

What are SOMA's numbers looking like this year?

 

[LovesBikes]

Why did you apply so late?

I wasn't planning on applying til next year, but I thought I'd give it a shot for this year, just in case. I figured my stats were good for DO but I'd have no shot at MD, so I went ahead and applied this year.

 

[Machine33]

Average meaning a LizzyM of around a 2 +/- 60 ( gpa x 10 + Mcat score).


So the reason I ask is due to a curiosity of mine, DO stats seem to be very bimodal. And as such if a candidate is actually an average one I want to know where they would fall in, i.e accepted to low or high tier schools or etc.


Form:

===Demographics====
Ethnicity: ( URM or Not)
State of Residency:
==================


==Stats===
Mcat score:
Cgpa:
Sgpa:
=========

== Date Submitted===
Application Date of Primary:
Secondary Submitted average:
Secondary date of submission for accepted/ interviewed Schools:
Interview dates:
Interview dates of schools accepted:
==================

==Applications====
Number of schools applied:
What schools interviewed you:
What schools accepted you:
Schools In-state that interview/ accepted you:
===============

====Extras=======
DO or MD Letter:

White male (ESL though).

3.77 cgpa, 3.76 sgpa, 24 MCAT = Lizzy score of 61.7

Primaries late June, Secondaries early July

I got interviews at SOMA, KYCOM, MUCOM, CUSOM, KCUMB, and LMU.

Accepted to KCUMB 👍 and withdrew everything else.

DO Letter.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

Quick question. Why doesn't LizzyM score take into consideration science GPA?

Assumption that they are similar.

We can use the expanded lizzyM : sci gpa x 10 + Cgpa x 10 + mcat.
Average DO app = ~ 93 +/- 3.

 

[abolt18]

LizzyM 61.1 (averaged science and cum GPA) For additional stats see MyMDApps.

I'm as white as they get. From Utah.

Applied to 9 schools completed 8 of the secondaries (saved a few bucks by not putting the last one in).

Interview Invite from 5 of them: DMU, KCUMB, NSU, ATSU-KCOM, ATSU-SOMA.
Attended all but DMU.

Accepted at all 4 that I interviewed at.

Attending KCOM this summer!

Had 2 DO and 1 MD letter. (didn't mean to get one of the DO letters but the guy offered)

 

[advair250]

What if your sgpa is higher than cgpa?

 

[jrporte3]

Ill join in......

White, AZ resident

MCAT: 30
GPA: 3.7c 3.8s
LizzyM score: 67 or 68

Submitted AACOMAS Early June
Verified Late June
Most Secondaries done middle of July

Number of schools applied: 9 DO (plus a handful of MD schools)
Interviewed in September for both AZCOM, DMU. 6 more II's came over the rest of the cycle but did not attend due to AZCOM acceptance (#1 DO school on my list)
What schools accepted you: AZCOM (DMU-WL)

MD and DO letter.

 

[darklabel]

I feel like that puts too much weight on GPA though. Maybe it should be an average between the two.

I respect LizzyM and all, but sometimes people take what she says in stone instead of a general guideline.

 

[Dr Turkelton]

I dont really buy the LizzyM score tbh. According to the score I am an "average" applicant with a 61. But the breakdown of that is a 3.0 31, I think a guy with a 3.7 24 or a 3.5 26 is at a much much better position than me.

 

[DrMeows]

LizzyM score of 59.8 (don't want to post my exact stats)

Non URM, from the Midwest

Primaries submitted in June, secondaries completed by August at the latest

Interviews Invites: CCOM, MU-COM, AZCOM, KCOM, VCOM-CC, LECOM-Bradenton (went to all except for KCOM)

Accepted: MU-COM

Waitlisted: CCOM, AZCOM, VCOM-CC, LECOM-Bradenton

Have a DO letter. Out of the 9 DO schools I applied to I got 6 interviews, 2 rejections, and 1 is still out there.

 

[DrMeows]

IIRC, you got accepted to MU off the waitlist which means you got waitlisted 5 times? Must have been frustrating.

Haha oh yeah I forgot to put that (keeping tabs on me? 😉 lol). I think I forget sometimes because I was on the Marian waitlist for only a couple weeks. And yes...super frustrating! Also waitlisted twice last cycle so I've been waitlisted 7 times in my life lmao. And the funny thing is I talk to every school and I've been told I interview well. I did poorly in a grad school class though so I think that tends to pop up as a red flag. Ah well, only takes 1 to say yes! 🙂

 

[WildEMDoc]

I'm pretty close, LizzyM = 64

===Demographics====
Ethnicity: ORM
State of Residency: NM
==================


==Stats===
Mcat score: 29O
Cgpa: 3.5
Sgpa: 3.45
=========

== Date Submitted===
Application Date of Primary: 6/14/12
Secondary Submitted average: Towards the end of July
Interview dates: September (DO), October (DO & MD), March (MD)
Interview dates of schools accepted: September (DO), October (DO)
==================

==Applications====
Number of schools applied: 13ish DO, 10ish MD
Interview Invites: AZCOM, SOMA, KCOM, DMU, VCOM, UNE, Marian, Western, Touro CA, Touro NV, New Mexico, Rush Medical College
Interviews Attended: AZCOM, KCOM, DMU, UNE, Western, New Mexico, Rush
Accepted: AZCOM, KCOM, UNE, Western
Wait-listed: DMU, New Mexico, Rush
Accepted off waitlist: New Mexico
Schools In-state that interview/ accepted you: New Mexico (Interviewed/WL/Accepted)
===============

====Extras=======
DO or MD Letter: Both

 

[screamin eagle]

Lizzy M- 71

===Demographics====
Ethnicity: ( URM or Not) White
State of Residency: WI
==================


==Stats===
Mcat score: 33
Cgpa: 3.8
Sgpa: 3.8
=========

== Date Submitted===
Application Date of Primary:July
Interview dates: October and November
Interview dates of schools accepted: same
==================

==Applications====
Number of schools applied: DMU and LECOM
What schools interviewed you: LECOM and DMU
What schools accepted you: LECOM and DMU
Schools In-state that interview/ accepted you:-----
===============

====Extras=======
1 DO 2 MD Letters

 

[prettylittleDO]

Lizzy M- 63

===Demographics====
Ethnicity: ( URM or Not) White
State of Residency: OH
==================


==Stats===
Mcat score: 27
Cgpa: 3.6
Sgpa: 3.3
=========

== Date Submitted===
Application Date of Primary: mid June
Interview dates: October and November
Interview dates of schools accepted: November
==================

==Applications====
Number of schools applied: 12
What schools interviewed you: KCUMB, KCOM, MUCOM (LMU-DCOM, CUSOM, LECOM-Erie invited, did not attend)
What schools accepted you: KCOM and MUCOM, rejected by KCUMB (bad interview)
Schools In-state that interview/ accepted you:-----
===============

====Extras=======
1 DO letter
Withdrew applications/declined interviews after KCOM acceptance in November

 

[azide10]

LizzyM - 64

===Demographics====
Ethnicity: White
State of Residency:NY
==================


==Stats===
Mcat score:28
Cgpa:3.6
Sgpa:3.8
=========

== Date Submitted===
Application Date of Primary:June
Secondary Submitted average: Don't remember
Interview dates: September - RVU, DMU, NSU/ October - KCUMB/ November - LMU
==================

==Applications====
Number of schools applied: SUNY's + few more MDs then 11 DOs.
What schools interviewed you:RVU, DMU, NSU, KCUMB, LMU, MUCOM, (turned down CCOM, NYCOM, touro-NY). Only DO schools not to offer me interviews were OUHCOM and VCOM, the 2 I wanted most lol.
What schools accepted you: NSU, LMU, MUCOM
===============

====Extras=======
MD letter
Good ECs
No research
__________________

 

[as1212559]

LizzyM: 61-62?

===Demographics====
Ethnicity: dat pasty white
State of Residency: the center of the world, aka ohio
==================

==Stats===
Mcat score: 29
Cgpa: 3.4
Sgpa: 3.15
=========

== Date Submitted===
Application Date of Primary: mid june
Secondary Submitted average: mid-late august
Secondary date of submission for accepted/ interviewed Schools: late august
Interview dates: 11/9, 11/30, 2/15
Interview dates of schools accepted: 11/9, 11/30
==================

==Applications====
Number of schools applied: 10 primaries (AZCOM, SOMA, TUNCOM, OSU-COM, KCUMB, KCOM, DMU, OU-HCOM, VCOM, PCOM)
What schools interviewed you: KCUMB (attended), OSU-COM (accepted off waitlist), OU-HCOM (did not attend)
What schools accepted you: KCUMB (early December, ~1 month post interview), OSU-COM (waitlisted mid december, accepted mid January)
Schools In-state that interview/ accepted you: OU-HCOM offered interview, chose not to attend
===============

====Extras=======
DO or MD Letter: DO, OU-HCOM faculty, KCUMB grad

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

This is going to be a really good archive.

 

[Caitlin0206]

...

 

[backsideattack1]

LizzyM: 58-->61

===Demographics====
Ethnicity: ORM
State of Residency: MI
==================

==Stats===
Mcat score: 24-->27
Cgpa: 3.4
Sgpa: 3.5
=========

== Date Submitted===
Application Date of Primary: June
Secondary Submitted average: August (1st score), October (2nd score)
Secondary date of submission for accepted/ interviewed Schools: aug (1 acceptance, 2 ii, attended 1 ii), oct (5 ii, none attended)
Interview dates: Sept
Interview dates of schools accepted: Oct
==================

==Applications====
Number of schools applied: 22+10
What schools interviewed you: (attended) KCUMB, (not attended) NOVA, WHSU, VCOM, LECOM
What schools accepted you: KCUMB, tbd in-state
Schools In-state that interview/accepted you: tbd
===============

====Extras=======
DO or MD Letter: 1 DO, 3 MD, 1 research, 4 professor (3 sci, 1 nonsci), 1 coach

 

[Pharmakon]

KY Resident

3.8 cGPA, 3.7 sGPA, 25 MCAT = Lizzy score of 63

Primaries October, Applied to 8 schools.

Secondaries November, only filled out Western-Pomona and KCUMB, got an interview at KCUMB 2 days after submission.

Accepted to KCUMB (1st choice)

MD Letter.

 

[coolingglasses]

Form:

LizzyM score of ~58

===Demographics====
Ethnicity: Southeast Asian/non URM
State of Residency: Missouri
==================


==Stats===
Mcat score: 27
Cgpa: 3.09
Sgpa: 3.12
=========

== Date Submitted===
Application Date of Primary: 8/7/12 submssion. Six weeks to verification.
Secondary Submitted average: late September/early October.
Secondary date of submission for accepted/ interviewed Schools: 9/26 KCOM, 10/8 WVSOM (secondary only issued with interview invite)
Interview dates: 10/18 KCOM, 11/9 WVSOM
Interview dates of schools accepted: see above
==================

==Applications====
Number of schools applied: 22
What schools interviewed you: KCOM, WVSOM (received and eventually withdrew interview invites to: TouroNY, Nova, ATSU-SOMA, PNWU, ACOM from Nov-Jan)
What schools accepted you: KCOM, WVSOM
Schools In-state that interview/ accepted you: KCOM
===============

====Extras=======
DO or MD Letter: DO letter. Later added MD letter in late Dec
Research Experience: Practically none.
see MDApps link on the left for ECs

 

[DolFAN]

===Demographics====
Ethnicity: Hispanic
State of Residency: FL
==================


==Stats===
Mcat score: 30
Cgpa: 3.5ish?
Sgpa: 3.6ish?

Those GPA are from my undergrad, however when computed with AACOM and AMCAS it was like a 3.3 and 3.4 respectively
=========

==Applications====
Number of schools applied: 20?
What schools interviewed you: Nova, LECOM, LMU, Drexel, FIU / Invited to DMU and PCOM-GA for interview but declined
What schools accepted you: Nova, LECOM and LMU, waitlisted at FIU and havent heard back from Drexel yet
Schools In-state that interview/ accepted you: FIU
===============

====Extras=======
DO or MD Letter: 1 DO and 1 MD
Research Experience: 4 Months of Clinical research, no publications.

 

[Temperature101]

I feel like that puts too much weight on GPA though. Maybe it should be an average between the two.

Definitely... LizzyM should use the average s/cGPA. My sGPA is higher than my cGPA (3.15 cGPA, 3.35 sGPA); therefore, I am using the average to calculate my LizzyM score. I think other should do the same. Can you please make that correction LizzyM to your formula using the average GPAs?

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

Definitely... LizzyM should use the average s/cGPA. My sGPA is higher than my cGPA (3.15 cGPA, 3.35 sGPA); therefore, I am using the average to calculate my LizzyM score. I think other should do the same. Can you please make that correction LizzyM to your formula using the average GPAs?

The LizzyM isn't a gold standard, it's just an easy method of calculating things quickly because again for the majority peoples sgpa is very close. But alright, if we calculate an average then 3.45 + 3.3 /2 = 3.37 + 26.5 = ~ 60.

 

[Temperature101]

What LizzyM score range is competitive for DO?

Edit... Thanks for answering my question before I even posted it. Lol...

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

What LizzyM score range is competitive for DO?

Edit... Thanks for answering my question before I even posted it. Lol...

I'd say 58 to 62 is in the average range. 62+ is competitive.

 

[razor]

I think applying early is definitely one of the easiest things you can do to help yourself out. I feel like interviews went well and still got no love from anywhere:

MCAT 28
cGPA 3.8
sGPA 3.9
Non-Trad with interesting work experience outside of medicine
~500 hrs actual patient-care hours as EMT

Primary Complete Late September
Secondaries completed by Nov but waiting on DO Letter until Dec.
Interview Invites: DMU, LECOM, UNECOM, PNWU, COMP-NW, Touro-CA, KCOM,
Interviews FEB @: DMU, LECOM, Western COMP-NW Cancelled others due to travel $ and so late in cycle probably just waitlist spots.

Waitlist: DMU, LECOM
Withdrew App from COMP-NW. (I've gotta pump my own gas) And lecture by video stream is a bit hokie for $49,000/yr

 

[Postictal Raiden]

LizzyM: 58-->61

===Demographics====
Ethnicity: ORM
State of Residency: MI
==================

==Stats===
Mcat score: 24-->27
Cgpa: 3.4
Sgpa: 3.5
=========

== Date Submitted===
Application Date of Primary: June
Secondary Submitted average: August (1st score), October (2nd score)
Secondary date of submission for accepted/ interviewed Schools: aug (1 acceptance, 2 ii, attended 1 ii), oct (5 ii, none attended)
Interview dates: Sept
Interview dates of schools accepted: Oct
==================

==Applications====
Number of schools applied: 22+10
What schools interviewed you: (attended) KCUMB, (not attended) NOVA, WHSU, VCOM, LECOM
What schools accepted you: KCUMB, tbd in-state
Schools In-state that interview/accepted you: tbd
===============

====Extras=======
DO or MD Letter: 1 DO, 3 MD, 1 research, 4 professor (3 sci, 1 nonsci), 1 coach

Which score got you accepted, the 58 or the 61?

 

[Lys Ile Glu Leu]

LM score = 62 (3.3/29)

Primaries complete in early September, secondaries as they came in.

Completed 3 DO secondaries (KCUMB, DMU, ATSU-KCOM)

Interviewed at latter two.

Accepted at both.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

So looks like a lot of lower gpa/ high mcat combos in this range.

 

[backsideattack1]

Which score got you accepted, the 58 or the 61?

Accepted with the 58. Other IIs with the 61 and current waitlist with the 61.

 

[Back 5]

So looks like a lot of lower gpa/ high mcat combos in this range.

Is this a more "acceptable" variant of the LizzyM score versus a higher gpa/ lower mcat?

 

[advair250]

A few of the posts with stats are well above average..

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

A few of the posts with stats are well above average..

Yah, a lot of people are posting with LizzyM's in the 65+'s which are well above even the highest averages of some schools. But it's cool, more information is always good.

 

[as1212559]

So looks like a lot of lower gpa/ high mcat combos in this range.

Strong this.

Low GPA high MCAT checking in and I'm happy it wasn't the other way around for me. I had a very strong upward trend which softens the blow of my GPAs significantly and a high MCAT will do wonders. Gogo 28+, best advice for DO.

 

[gc91]

Strong this.

Low GPA high MCAT checking in and I'm happy it wasn't the other way around for me. I had a very strong upward trend which softens the blow of my GPAs significantly and a high MCAT will do wonders. Gogo 28+, best advice for DO.

On the other hand, I had the opposite and still got in. Crap shoot. *shrugs*

Depending on which one we're using my Lizzy M is either a 61.5 or 95.8

===Demographics====
Ethnicity: ( URM or Not) Non URM
State of Residency: New York
==================


==Stats===
Mcat score: 25
Cgpa: 3.65
Sgpa: 3.43
=========

== Date Submitted===
Application Cycle Year: 2013
Application Date of Primary: early August 2012
Secondary Submitted average: Late September 2012
Secondary date of submission for accepted/ interviewed Schools: Late September/Early October
Interview dates: 11/08 (WVSOM), 11/30 (LECOM-Erie), 12/? (LMU-DCOM), 1/26 (ACOM)
Interview dates of schools accepted: 11/08
==================

==Applications====
Number of schools applied: 8
What schools interviewed you: WVSOM, LECOM-Erie (I didn't go to the other two)
What schools accepted you: WVSOM, (LECOM waitlisted me)
Schools In-state that interview/ accepted you: I didn't apply in-state
===============

====Extras=======
DO or MD Letter: DO
Research Experience: Some

 

[Didierdrogba]

Strong this.

Low GPA high MCAT checking in and I'm happy it wasn't the other way around for me. I had a very strong upward trend which softens the blow of my GPAs significantly and a high MCAT will do wonders. Gogo 28+, best advice for DO.

one thing: make sure you do not have a terribly downward GPA, this could hurt ya

 

[CurtainCall2]

Here we go...

===Demographics====
Ethnicity: White Male
State of Residency: AL
==================


==Stats===
Mcat score: 25/23
Cgpa: 3.5
Sgpa: 3.6
LizzyM: 60/58
=========

== Date Submitted===
Application Cycle Year: 2013
Application Date of Primary: November 2012
Secondary Submitted average: December 2012
Secondary date of submission for accepted/ interviewed Schools: December 2012
Interview dates: February/March 2013
Interview dates of schools accepted: March 2013
==================

==Applications====
Number of schools applied: 6 (PCOM-GA, CUSOM, VCOM-CC, ACOM, NOVA, Touro-NY)
What schools interviewed you: PCOM-GA, CUSCOM, VCOM-CC, ACOM
What schools accepted you: VCOM-CC -- Waitlisted at other three
Schools In-state that interview/ accepted you: ACOM
===============

====Extras=======
DO or MD Letter: 1 MD, 1 DO
Research Experience: School related; not published. Worked in eye/tissue donation for last 2.5 years.

 

[Back 5]

Here we go...

===Demographics====
Ethnicity: White Male
State of Residency: AL
==================


==Stats===
Mcat score: 25/23
Cgpa: 3.5
Sgpa: 3.6
LizzyM: 60/58
=========

== Date Submitted===
Application Cycle Year: 2013
Application Date of Primary: November 2012
Secondary Submitted average: December 2012
Secondary date of submission for accepted/ interviewed Schools: December 2012
Interview dates: February/March 2013
Interview dates of schools accepted: March 2013
==================

==Applications====
Number of schools applied: 6 (PCOM-GA, CUSOM, VCOM-CC, ACOM, NOVA, Touro-NY)
What schools interviewed you: PCOM-GA, CUSCOM, VCOM-CC, ACOM
What schools accepted you: VCOM-CC -- Waitlisted at other three
Schools In-state that interview/ accepted you: ACOM
===============

====Extras=======
DO or MD Letter: 1 MD, 1 DO
Research Experience: School related; not published. Worked in eye/tissue donation for last 2.5 years.

You applied fairly late with a high GPA/low MCAT. Did this get brought up in interviews at all? I'm worried that I will be in this boat, if my MCAT doesn't turn out great. If I score 27+ I will have (relatively) no worries.

Also, I see a lot of people getting accepted to ACOM very late in the season. Are fewer people applying to this school because of the high tuition? Safe school to apply to later in the season?