Which do you use more? Gray's or Netter's?

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I was wondering which you liked better, Gray's or Netter's Anatomy? And which would you recommend? If you prefer a different anatomy book, please list it! Thanks in advance!

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Isn't Gray's all in black and white? Ugh. I don't think anybody uses Gray's anymore. It's either Grant's or Netter's.

I liked Netter's, even though there's a few mistakes.
 
Netters was my choice. I also used Rohen and Yokochi et al. It's a picture atlas of actual cadavers. Helps alot for practical exams.

Another to maybe check out is Clemente, if it's still in print. It has some nice descriptive text along with the illustrations. Kind of a mix between Moore's Clinical anatomy and Netters atlas.
 
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•••quote:•••Originally posted by mr_sparkle:
•Isn't Gray's all in black and white? Ugh. I don't think anybody uses Gray's anymore. It's either Grant's or Netter's.

I liked Netter's, even though there's a few mistakes.•••••Mistakes in Netter's????? Please share.
 
what do u guys think of Moore? I have been studying out of that until med school starts. I also have netter but i dont know what to study. too much info.
 
I use both Netter's and Moore, but find that I don't need to use Moore's that much for the units where we have syllabi handed out that essentially condense the info in the book. For every exam, however, I've needed to review the "blue boxes" which talk about clinical correlations and are pretty important. I would study those and just browse through the pics in Netter's. Anatomy is a lot of memorization and learning how to locate the different structures on the cadaver, and both of these things are hard to do so far in advance. 3 exams down for me, don't know how I did on the third one but worried.. hope I will not be spending the summer in lab repeating the course... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" />
 
Man, reading through Moore is arduous. There are a few of us that started anatomy that way before we came to our senses. The book you want is the Board Review by Chang. Just using that and Netter were more than enough.
 
Netter is God.

Moore is useful as a large paperweight, though the blue clinical correlates are good.

Chung is a great supplement.

C U in med school: Take it easy, my friend. if you study Netter, start with the major muscles - back, legs, arms and so forth and learn their innervations if you must.
 
Netters is great. Mini Moore is also very good. Don't ever try hollinshead. Its the biggest piece of junk ever written.
 
Netter's, Rohen's photographic atlas, and Chung are must-have's. Gray's, like others have said, is not as good.

I learned late in the game that reading all of "big Moore" is a complete waste of time, although the book is good to have for the occasional reference, and the blue boxes are definitely information you'll need to learn.
 
grays is an option??? i use netters atlas - other than that snells. stephen goldberd isnt so bad either.
 
Netters is so much better than Grants. Even though it's alot more detailed, it's better organized. Rohens looked useful too but I hardly had time to use it. For textbooks, Snells wasn't good :p .
 
I used Netters - I didnt like the hard-to-read labelling in Grant. I own Grays Anatomy (was a present), but it surely is NOT useful in an actual class. Anatomy has been over since October and Im STILL using Netters (especially now, in neuro).

For the reading book type thing, I really really like mini-Moore - Essential Clinical Anatomy. It's gives you the exact same information as big Moore, minus a few minute details, without the verbosity. It even has the blue boxes. The Chung board review book is also good.

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If your screen name is true, that you want to be a cardiothoraic surgeon, then Netters is a MUST. I am an MS4 going into surgery and have used Netters throughout my third and fourth years of med school and know that Netters will be my best friend in surgery residency. Everything in surgery is ALL about the anatomy. Good luck! :p
 
Netter is the best. I found that the best way for me to study for the cadaver exams was to use the CD-ROM version. You can make up your own tests with it. I would use our checklists and make a test where I had to type out the name of the structure. Sometimes I would go into the exam never seeing a structure on the cadaver, but knowing it when I saw it on the exam from going over my tests with the CD-ROM.

Moore is also good, especially for the written tests. I only read the blue boxes, though.
 
Our school required Grants, yet we all soon quickly discovered how much better the Rohan atlas was. (which is what I ended up buying) A few people in lab had Netters and Clemente's too. I borrow Netter's from a friend a few times and it's GREAT ! I'd definitely stick to Netter and Rohan-Yokochi (sp?)
 
Netters all the way baby!!! :clap:
 
btw, Netters was the ONLY book I bought all last semester!
 
i have moore's cause the prof made it a required text. what makes netter better? and what are some people's complaints with moore's?
 
netter's for sure
 
I loved making computer tests with the Netter's CD-ROM. This was a good way to initially absorb the info.

I found Rohen and Yokoshi (spelling?) a must have way to make sure that I could actually translate my netter's knowledge to an actual cadaver. It is possible to know Netter's cold and get confused on a cadaver (cadavers are not nearly as pretty as Netter's drawings!!) This is also a great way to review after your cadavers are all dissected to oblivion.
 
Future surgeon here also--one more year!!!. Use the BRS Gross Anatomy by Chung and use Frank Netter's Atlas. Moore is a nice text to use for the course. Chung for quick nitetime reading, Netter's for detailed pics, and Moore for in depth study. Good luck to you.
 
Kind of an old topic, but I thought I'd share.

Netter is our roadmap. We have copies of Netter, Grant's, Clemente, and Gray's provided for us during dissections (don't want to touch one of those with your bare hands), but it's Netter that gets referenced the most in our lab guide. Mini-Moore is excellent for basic physiology and innervations.

Netter, Mini-Moore, and muscle/nerve tables in our lab manual is what I've used. The Chung review book seems highly acclaimed here, but I've seen only a handful of people using it at school. It actually doesn't seem detailed enough to be useful. I own Rohan & Yokochi because I thought the real pictures would be useful, but I wish I wouldn't have bought it.
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by rsk77:
•i have moore's cause the prof made it a required text. what makes netter better? and what are some people's complaints with moore's?•••••There's a basic difference between Netters and Moore. Netter is an atlas - labelled pictures of different parts of the body. Moore is a textbook, with mostly text. I personally dont like the "big Moore" b/c it says very little in a lot of words. Mini-Moore is MUCH more succinct and just as useful.

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DO NOT USE CHANG AS A MEDICAL TEXTBOOK !

See most Board Review books are condensed . So say it covers the most important aspects only . So you are really only getting about 60% of the total information .

And out of that 60% , you will probably retain 35-45 % . It is better to use one of the full texts , yes , even though it is a pain . After you have learned then refer to the Board Review .

BEST BOOKS :

NETTER - ATLAS
KEITH L. MOORE TEXTBOOK
GRAYS - REFERENCE / REALLY COMPLICATED STUFF
BOARD REVIEW - RAYMONG CHANG ( CHUNG )
 
Netter's was my best friend my first year of med school. I used Rohen and Yacoghi(sp?) too but the dissections were so perfect that it made the dissected cadavers in my lab look like mutilated meat.
 
I'm currently taking an anatomy course in the undergrad level. I know it's no where near as in depth as the anatomy I will face in medical school--but at least I have a head start on the major structures of the body. Anyway, I use Rohen and Netter. Netter is sort of a guide for me when a structure cannot be easily distinguished from another one on the actual cadaver. For example, it was very helpful when learning all of the nerves in the brachial plexus that look so similar to one another on the cadaver. Both books are a must when studying anatomy. I'm sure I'll be using these books extensively throughout medical school and my career.
 
I ta pt anatomy at my school, Netters is my bible, Rohen is a must as well as Snell and Goldbers Clinical anatomy made ridiculusly simple.
 
Netter's plus Chung. That's it. That's all you need.

To MOX: I'm not sure who RAYMONG CHANG is but Dr. Chung wrote the BRS Anatomy. It's excellent and it covers the "60%" of anatomy that is tested and that you really need to know, IMHO. Granted it leaves out stuff but it works for most.
 
Hi

I used Mini Moore and Lasts for my anatomy. Mini-moore gives you the core info but you need Lasts (or something similar) for the bits of the syllabus not covered in mini-moore. Not read Netter yet as its difficult to get hold of in England (I'm considering ordering it from amazon.com just to have a look)

Chris

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Our required atlas was grants. some ppl used netter's because amsa gave it away free. i didn;t use moore at all, stuck with the dissector and chung. i have heard that high yeild anatomy is good, but have not used it. the big moore is overkill, for our school at least, and our anatomy head prof thinks that netter's has too many errors in it.
 
Netter is great, but I used Grant's a lot for the head and neck.
The Adam programs also helped.
The "dead book" the colour atlas was mandatory for the gross lab.
 
How much does Netter's cost? Is it cheaper to join AMSA and get it free through them?
I'd like to buy it now so I can start over the summer (while I'm at the beach :p )
 
Hi

Netter's anatomy costs <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0914168819/dissectionroo-20" target="_blank">$64.95 from amazon.com</a> but I don't know how much it is from your local bookshop.

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I used Netter and MiniMoore for my Gross Anatomy course. Just picked up Gray's for the heck of it (got it at a nice little book store in paper back for $6).
 
Definitely wait to buy Netter's until you join AMSA so you can get it free. They also give you the option of a free Robbins instead, which you'll need second year, so I guess you could buy Netter's now and just hold onto the free Robbins for a year. I wouldn't spend time with Netter's over the summer, though... it's an atlas and it would be tough to learn anything just by staring at the pictures, IMO. It's much easier to put it all together when you have the cadavers to correlate it with.
 
Netter is the best atlas I've seen. As far as a text goes, Moore is excellent but Hollinshead is the best. Also, Snell's Clinical Anatomy for Medical Students is good.
 
Hey Guys:

There is a paperback version and a hardcover version of Netter's Atlas.

Which one should I get?

Netter also has an Atlas about the nervous system. Do you need that one?

Thanks

AK
 
I bought the paperback Netter's and put a plastic cover on it that is removable. You don't want the cadaver mess all over your brand new Netter. This will also make the paperback last longer which I think is put together reasonably well. Not sure hardcover is necessary.
 
Do you use your textbook? Or do instructors make you get a specific book?

AK
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by I wanna be a Cardiothoracic Surgeon:
•I was wondering which you liked better, Gray's or Netter's Anatomy? And which would you recommend? If you prefer a different anatomy book, please list it! Thanks in advance!•••••definitely Netter's -- get the CD too if you can -- really helpful
 
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Has anyone used the Netters CD-ROM? It looks petty helpful.

Where can you get the mini-Moore's? Does anyone have an ISBN #?
 
Netter all the way! My tank mate also had Rohen which was helpful because Netter never quite captures what REAL dissection looks like. You might talk to your tank mates about all pitching in for one Netter for lab and then having one at home. The one used for dissection tends to get really disgusting. At our school, we hand the "nasty netters" down each year from class to class.

As as side note, I bought Moore and only cracked it once. Way too dense for me.
 
I used Netter's and I thought it was great. I thought that its cranial nerve schematics were especially helpful.
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by PTjay:
•I bought the paperback Netter's and put a plastic cover on it that is removable. You don't want the cadaver mess all over your brand new Netter. This will also make the paperback last longer which I think is put together reasonably well. Not sure hardcover is necessary.•••••That is the nastiest thing I've read. We get supplied 2 Netters and 1 Grant for each table, standard, specifically for use while dissecting. We've also got 1 Rohen and Yokoshi for every 3-4 groups. At the beginning of the year everything was new, now you can't even open a lab atlas without pages sticking together. :D
 
I agree with everyone else who has responded so far - Netter is by far the best atlas to use. Rohen is also good to use for studying for lab practicals once the lab is closed (although nobody's cadaver actually looks like the pictures in that atlas). The only thing with Netter, according to our anatomy professors, is that Netter has a few errors. But even with that I think it's the best atlas to use.
 
I would have to disagree with all of you!

I think grays has been much more useful to me than any other book. You see it gets really hot here in the summer and my air conditioner vent is broken so I have to use a book to hold it up and gray has done a perfect job ever since the day I got it! I only used netters through anatomy and for review but gray has been the book that's kept on giving!
 
netter is better... it's much lighter than gray's and at the same time much more understandable...

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