Which school is your TOP choice?

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Top Choice

  • Alabama

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • ASDOH

    Votes: 4 0.9%
  • Midwestern - AZ

    Votes: 8 1.8%
  • Loma Linda

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • UCLA

    Votes: 27 6.0%
  • UCSF

    Votes: 17 3.8%
  • USC

    Votes: 7 1.5%
  • UoP

    Votes: 33 7.3%
  • Western

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Colorado

    Votes: 4 0.9%
  • UConn

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Howard

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • LECOM

    Votes: 4 0.9%
  • NOVA

    Votes: 9 2.0%
  • UFlorida

    Votes: 12 2.6%
  • Midwestern - IL

    Votes: 1 0.2%
  • SIU

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • UIC

    Votes: 6 1.3%
  • Indiana

    Votes: 5 1.1%
  • Kentucky

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Louisville

    Votes: 7 1.5%
  • LSU

    Votes: 7 1.5%
  • Boston

    Votes: 6 1.3%
  • Harvard

    Votes: 15 3.3%
  • Tufts

    Votes: 12 2.6%
  • Maryland

    Votes: 9 2.0%
  • UDM

    Votes: 21 4.6%
  • Michigan

    Votes: 12 2.6%
  • Minnesota

    Votes: 8 1.8%
  • Missouri

    Votes: 4 0.9%
  • ECU

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • UNC

    Votes: 16 3.5%
  • Creighton

    Votes: 7 1.5%
  • Nebraska

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • UMDNJ

    Votes: 8 1.8%
  • UNLV

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Columbia

    Votes: 19 4.2%
  • NYU

    Votes: 16 3.5%
  • Stony Brook

    Votes: 12 2.6%
  • Buffalo

    Votes: 8 1.8%
  • Case

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Ohio

    Votes: 7 1.5%
  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • OHSU

    Votes: 1 0.2%
  • Temple

    Votes: 8 1.8%
  • UPenn

    Votes: 20 4.4%
  • Pittsburgh

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Puerto Rico

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • MSC

    Votes: 4 0.9%
  • Meharry

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Tennessee

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Baylor

    Votes: 11 2.4%
  • San Antonio

    Votes: 7 1.5%
  • Houston

    Votes: 5 1.1%
  • Roseman

    Votes: 6 1.3%
  • VCU

    Votes: 5 1.1%
  • UW

    Votes: 16 3.5%
  • Marquett

    Votes: 8 1.8%
  • West Virginia

    Votes: 3 0.7%

  • Total voters
    453
  • Poll closed .
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Omg.. why SDNers chose my top choice as their top choices... must be very competitive....
 
I'm surprised how many people are choosing UDM considering how rarely it comes up around here.

Agreed.

I don't think these polls about top choices have any indication about the quality of the school, or anything. More so the demand based on where people can afford to attend, which school is closest to home, etc.

I think if the poll was "what's your dream school," the votes would be really different.
 
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I'd be very grateful for any acceptances at this point, but I'm going to be heartbroken and completely bitter if I don't get my top choice lol.
 
Wrong as usual Avicii.

pleaseeeeeeeeee putas tell me how one school is that much better than another? do they practice some sort of different form of dentistry?

all schools will train you to be a dentist (yes I would rather go to one over the other.) but its almost always a location and cost issue.

your just being a typical annoying puta. 🙂
 
pleaseeeeeeeeee putas tell me how one school is that much better than another? do they practice some sort of different form of dentistry?

all schools will train you to be a dentist (yes I would rather go to one over the other.) but its almost always a location and cost issue.

your just being a typical annoying puta. 🙂

So if you need me to tell you how one is 'that much better' you agree that some schools are at least marginally better than others?

Are all schools that grant a B.S. in Civil Engineering equal since they all train you to be a civil engineer?



Edit:

A perfect example that even you may accept as reality.

You want to be an awesome clinician and don't care about specializing.

You could go to a dental school in the suburbs that has a limited patient base that typically isn't willing to let students drill on them to save a few bucks.

Or, you could go to a school in the heart of the north Philadelphia ghetto that will bring in the craziest cases you can get your hands on, You will also learn to deal with people from gangbangers to the elderly, those with trauma cases from a fistfight outside, and people that have neglected care for years and everything in between.

Are these schools equal to each other in providing you with clinical exposure to dentistry?
 
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So if you need me to tell you how one is 'that much better' you agree that some schools are at least marginally better than others?

Are all schools that grant a B.S. in Civil Engineering equal since they all train you to be a civil engineer?



Edit:

A perfect example that even you may accept as reality.

You want to be an awesome clinician and don't care about specializing.

You could go to a dental school in the suburbs that has a limited patient base that typically isn't willing to let students drill on them to save a few bucks.

Or, you could go to a school in the heart of the north Philadelphia ghetto that will bring in the craziest cases you can get your hands on, You will also learn to deal with people from gangbangers to the elderly, those with trauma cases from a fistfight outside, and people that have neglected care for years and everything in between.

Are these schools equal to each other in providing you with clinical exposure to dentistry?

yes you are correct, what i meant was that in the sense there is no ranking that each school is equivalent in terms of overall education. Of course some are better to specialize but in reality no program is "ranked" higher than another. so in the end of the day the choices you make are based on your personal preference. Ie. location, cost, specialty, etc.

Its not like med school where it matters what type of school you go to because after your done you might not find yourself with a hosp for rotation like many people from the carib. schools.
 
Ummm did no one effin read what was actually on the link? It was top 10 reasons to go to UOP. It didn't say top 10 reasons UOP was better than other schools. It didnt say top 10 reasons why as soon as someone posts something about a particular school people should start getting defensive. It is a frickin survey from UOP students... It only tells you about UOP and no other schools.

All that happened on this thread was that someone asked why UOP was popular and someone just gave a link of very good reasons why. That's it! Move the eff effin on. Thank you. Happy Holidays.
 
I actually agree with both of you.

Strong clinical schools def prepare you as a better dentist. You are exposed to more and tougher cases and you get better as you work on those cases. (I'm sure everyone knows that).

However, I have also heard that a lot of dentists I have talked to (around 25). over 90% of them told me you learn a lot more when you get out of a dental school and when you practice.

No matter how clinically strong school is, a dentist still learn so much more in first a few years. That was their common opinions. I have a friend whose dad is a dentist graduate from UoP. He is like 23 so I would assume his dad graduated maybe 25-30 years ago... Anyways, his dad said that when he entered the dental school, UoP was unarguably the best school. When he got out, he knew some tricks/techniques that other dentists didn't know about. Yet after some years, everyone else eventually learned the skills. He suggested me to go to a cheaper school.

On the other hand, I know a dentist who graduated from UoP 2 years ago and just got accepted to a few ortho programs. She laughed at my face when I told her that cost is a big factor when it comes to choosing the school. She said, "you cannot put a price on great education".

There's that.
I still plan to attend a clinically strong school regardless what dentists say about it. We shall find out on Dec 1st
 
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Regarding Top 10 reasons,,,,

These are all true. Yet a lot of schools are trying to mimic UoP. so 4-5 different schools already have great sim labs, great faculty, nice/friendly environment, new curriculum (module system), clinical strengths (external rotations, outreach programs).

What really sets Dugoni school apart are (in my opinion) Humanism/Family environment, how much well rounded students are and super strong alumni connections. I saw these at Dugoni school and it become my Top choice.
 
Which school would you go to?

A school that is far cheaper than all your other options but you really don't like the school, or go to a school that you love but is much more expensive.

What is more important to you?
 
Which school would you go to?

A school that is far cheaper than all your other options but you really don't like the school, or go to a school that you love but is much more expensive.

What is more important to you?

Cheaper school! ..is the way to go 🙂 unless you are doing the navy scholarship, etc...
 
yes you are correct, what i meant was that in the sense there is no ranking that each school is equivalent in terms of overall education. Of course some are better to specialize but in reality no program is "ranked" higher than another. so in the end of the day the choices you make are based on your personal preference. Ie. location, cost, specialty, etc.

Its not like med school where it matters what type of school you go to because after your done you might not find yourself with a hosp for rotation like many people from the carib. schools.

I guess it depends on how you look at it for dentistry. Some schools have stronger reputations for better speciality preparation/clinical preparation/academics/research, etc. All of that could matter to future residency programs or clinics you're planning to apply to. So there might not be an official ranking, but people could very well benefit from going to certain schools over others.
 
Seems like UoP, UPenn, Columbia, and UDM are the most wanted school.

Things change pretty fast:
UoP 15
Penn 13
UDM 11
UCLA 9
Columbia/UCSF/UNC/Mich 7

I'm surprised at UDM's popularity, at least on SDN. Don't hear about it talked about that often.
 
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Things change pretty fast:
UoP 15
Penn 13
UDM 11
UCLA 9
Columbia/UCSF/UNC/Mich 7

I'm surprised at UDM's popularity, at least on SDN. Don't hear about it talked about that often.

It's surprising because nobody on SDN talks about them, but it's not surprising because it's an awesome school. The clinic is beautiful and they have a ton of patients. I'm certainly hoping to hear back from them on the 1st.
 
It's surprising because nobody on SDN talks about them, but it's not surprising because it's an awesome school. The clinic is beautiful and they have a ton of patients. I'm certainly hoping to hear back from them on the 1st.

I personally wasn't very impressed with UDM. I thought their clinic was pretty standard and the simlab was just like everyone elses. Didn't like the surrounding area, the campus wasn't appealing. But more than that, I just didn't find anything unique about their program. I just got the whole 'meh, we get the job done' kinda vibe. The staff were really friendly, though, and my D1 friends seem to like it.

I thought Michigan was a lottt better than UDM.
 
Just a theory but I think UDM has started to use a selection process similar to the one used in Moneyball. They are giving interviews to those that are most underestimated but are cheap (moneyball reference), in this case UDM is giving interviews to those who applied late but have really high stats. Although these high stat applicants have applied to other schools they probably got their first interview at UDM because UDM is a bit slower than most schools. These high stat applicants may want to go to Penn or U of M etc but these schools have pretty much given out a majority of their interviews. What UDM has done is they have filtered the high stat applicants that applied fairly late and gave them pre-dec interviews. If you check predents you can see that their is a huge difference in the stats for those who interviewed last year compared with those that interviewed this year. In the past couple weeks on predents UDM avg GPA and DAT has shot up, I think the avgGPA/DAT would be higher for UDM on predents if one of the predents had not listed 0/0/0/0 as their DAT score. UDM is a fairly good school, even though it may not have that brand name reputation, it is well established and with its inherent strong clinical exposure, it is likely at the top of the "realistic" list for these late applicants. I can see the class profile going one of either two ways, 1. these high stat late applicants choose UDM as their school as a result UDMs avg GPA/DAT score is abnormally high. 2. These high stat applicants see on predents that their are other high stat applicants getting accepted as a result high stat applicants get nervous of the competition and worrying for their class rank (needed in order to specialize) select a school lower on their list, as a result UDMs avg GPA/DAT falls like a rock.

Anyways that just my theory based on the latest activity/trends involving UDM.
 
Just a theory but I think UDM has started to use a selection process similar to the one used in Moneyball. They are giving interviews to those that are most underestimated but are cheap (moneyball reference), in this case UDM is giving interviews to those who applied late but have really high stats. Although these high stat applicants have applied to other schools they probably got their first interview at UDM because UDM is a bit slower than most schools. These high stat applicants may want to go to Penn or U of M etc but these schools have pretty much given out a majority of their interviews. What UDM has done is they have filtered the high stat applicants that applied fairly late and gave them pre-dec interviews. If you check predents you can see that their is a huge difference in the stats for those who interviewed last year compared with those that interviewed this year. In the past couple weeks on predents UDM avg GPA and DAT has shot up, I think the avgGPA/DAT would be higher for UDM on predents if one of the predents had not listed 0/0/0/0 as their DAT score. UDM is a fairly good school, even though it may not have that brand name reputation, it is well established and with its inherent strong clinical exposure, it is likely at the top of the "realistic" list for these late applicants. I can see the class profile going one of either two ways, 1. these high stat late applicants choose UDM as their school as a result UDMs avg GPA/DAT score is abnormally high. 2. These high stat applicants see on predents that their are other high stat applicants getting accepted as a result high stat applicants get nervous of the competition and worrying for their class rank (needed in order to specialize) select a school lower on their list, as a result UDMs avg GPA/DAT falls like a rock.

Anyways that just my theory based on the latest activity/trends involving UDM.

Very well constructed argument. I'm inclined to agree.
 
I just looked at the poll again. It seems like prestigious schools and state schools received most votes which totally make sense. ....

but why MWU-AZ?? good clinical school but 2nd most expensive school... there are other good clinical schools out there too..
 
I just looked at the poll again. It seems like prestigious schools and state schools received most votes which totally make sense. ....

but why MWU-AZ?? good clinical school but 2nd most expensive school... there are other good clinical schools out there too..

If I had to guess, MWU-AZ might be one of the only schools some people have been invited to (possibly also LECOM or Roseman), and if that's the case, MWU-AZ would likely win out.
 
If you guys did not want to sort through it, here is it sorted out from most to least with the number of choices bolded for the first 20 schools:

  1. UoP 15 - 7.28%
  2. UDM 14 - 6.80%
  3. UPenn 13 - 6.31%
  4. UCLA 10 - 4.85%
  5. UCSF 10 - 4.85%
  6. UW 10 - 4.85%
  7. Columbia 8 - 3.88%
  8. Baylor 8 - 3.88%
  9. Michigan 7 - 3.40%
  10. UNC 7 - 3.40%
  11. Midwestern - AZ 6 - 2.91%
  12. Harvard 6 - 2.91%
  13. NYU 6 - 2.91%
  14. Stony Brook 6 - 2.91%
  15. Minnesota 5 - 2.43%
  16. Buffalo 5 - 2.43%
  17. San Antonio 5 - 2.43%
  18. Creighton 4 - 1.94%
  19. Colorado 3 - 1.46%
  20. UFlorida 3 - 1.46%
  21. Indiana 3 - 1.46%
  22. Louisville 3 - 1.46%
  23. Tufts 3 - 1.46%
  24. Maryland 3 - 1.46%
  25. Case 3 - 1.46%
  26. Temple 3 - 1.46%
  27. Marquett 3 - 1.46%
  28. Loma Linda 2 - 0.97%
  29. USC 2 - 0.97%
  30. UConn 2 - 0.97%
  31. LECOM 2 - 0.97%
  32. NOVA 2 - 0.97%
  33. Boston 2 - 0.97%
  34. Missouri 2 - 0.97%
  35. Nebraska 2 - 0.97%
  36. Ohio 2 - 0.97%
  37. Pittsburgh 2 - 0.97%
  38. Roseman 2 - 0.97%
  39. Alabama 1 - 0.49%
  40. Western 1 - 0.49%
  41. Howard 1 - 0.49%
  42. Kentucky 1 - 0.49%
  43. LSU 1 - 0.49%
  44. ECU 1 - 0.49%
  45. UMDNJ 1 - 0.49%
  46. UNLV 1 - 0.49%
  47. OHSU 1 - 0.49%
  48. MSC 1 - 0.49%
  49. Houston 1 - 0.49%
  50. VCU 1 - 0.49%
  51. ASDOH 0 - 0.00%
  52. Midwestern - IL 0 - 0.00%
  53. SIU 0 - 0.00%
  54. UIC 0 - 0.00%
  55. Oklahoma 0 - 0.00%
  56. Puerto Rico 0 - 0.00%
  57. Meharry 0 - 0.00%
  58. Tennessee 0 - 0.00%
  59. West Virginia 0 - 0.00%
 
Just a theory but I think UDM has started to use a selection process similar to the one used in Moneyball. They are giving interviews to those that are most underestimated but are cheap (moneyball reference), in this case UDM is giving interviews to those who applied late but have really high stats. Although these high stat applicants have applied to other schools they probably got their first interview at UDM because UDM is a bit slower than most schools. These high stat applicants may want to go to Penn or U of M etc but these schools have pretty much given out a majority of their interviews. What UDM has done is they have filtered the high stat applicants that applied fairly late and gave them pre-dec interviews. If you check predents you can see that their is a huge difference in the stats for those who interviewed last year compared with those that interviewed this year. In the past couple weeks on predents UDM avg GPA and DAT has shot up, I think the avgGPA/DAT would be higher for UDM on predents if one of the predents had not listed 0/0/0/0 as their DAT score. UDM is a fairly good school, even though it may not have that brand name reputation, it is well established and with its inherent strong clinical exposure, it is likely at the top of the "realistic" list for these late applicants. I can see the class profile going one of either two ways, 1. these high stat late applicants choose UDM as their school as a result UDMs avg GPA/DAT score is abnormally high. 2. These high stat applicants see on predents that their are other high stat applicants getting accepted as a result high stat applicants get nervous of the competition and worrying for their class rank (needed in order to specialize) select a school lower on their list, as a result UDMs avg GPA/DAT falls like a rock.

Anyways that just my theory based on the latest activity/trends involving UDM.



This is crazy but it just might work for UDM. Who knows it might even change the admissions game to more like the non-rolling in Canada. So far your theory stands strong, assuming predents is accurate we will see many people with high stats accept (or atleast give deposit) UDM.
 
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Didnt realize so many students want to attend UDM, I didnt really see a post about UDM tho..
 
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