Which schools have Pass/No Pass grading?

[teefRcool]

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Which schools have Pass/No Pass grading?

 

[cowsgomoo]

Which schools have Pass/No Pass grading?

Columbia and UConn that I know of.

 

[bkwash]

harvard has pass/fail also

 

[food4thots]

ucsf and ucla are both P/NP

 

[dat_student]

ucsf and ucla are both P/NP

safe to say all top schools are P/NP?

 

[lifescool]

safe to say all top schools are P/NP?

aren't some schools on the high honors/pass/fail system?

 

[clindt]

All Dental schools are pass/fail. If you pass, you become a dentist. If you fail you don't. Why does it matter if you pass with a C, an A or a P?

 

[teefRcool]

All Dental schools are pass/fail. If you pass, you become a dentist. If you fail you don't. Why does it matter if you pass with a C, an A or a P?

No not all schools are a pass/fail system. And i didn't ask what difference if you pass with a C, an a or a P if it makes a difference or not. Read the question before writing a bs statement.

 

[LadyxJC]

All Dental schools are pass/fail. If you pass, you become a dentist. If you fail you don't. Why does it matter if you pass with a C, an A or a P?

Of course it matters if you pass with a C or an A... at least to some of us. Not everyone here just wants to get by dental school whichever way they can. Some of us actually want to do well and possibly go onto specialize.

 

[ElDienteLoco]

safe to say all top schools are P/NP?

You guys have a warped sense of "top" schools. Go where you feel you fit and where you will get the best experience for what you want to do. There are actually very few schools (to my knowledge) that are truly pass/fail. Most have a High Pass that essentially is the same as getting an A at a A-F system when it comes down to class rank. Also, just passing at Harvard is tough because of all the stupid trash they expect you to memorize. Again. Go where the school's curriculum, clinical experience, etc. meet your expectations and you will do fine.

 

[v&andy_yankee]

columbia is honor/pass/fail. it really doesn't make any difference because i still find myself working just as hard as had it been letter-grade. i guess it just decreases the stress by the tiniest bit, but it really doesn't matter much if it's honors/pass/fail or letter graded.

All Dental schools are pass/fail. If you pass, you become a dentist. If you fail you don't. Why does it matter if you pass with a C, an A or a P?

an A versus a C will make a huge difference if you want to specialize and you're applying to the programs. you've gotta think ahead. and for the schools that are h/p/f, an honors vs. a pass will also make a difference.

 

[jpollei]

safe to say all top schools are P/NP?

Definitely not. P/F can actually hurt when applying to residencies cause everyone in the class is vanilla...only have NBDE part I scores to go on (no "top 10%" etc). Like was said, if you have the choice then go where you feel like you fit in best. If not, go wherever you can get in. P/F is nice in ways, but I haven't at all minded four years of receiving a letter grade.

 

[luder98]

At some schools, although they go by P/NP, professors do keep all of your scores. Specialty offers will be based heavily on the LORs from the professors. This is when they open their books and notes! Numbers alone may not do it. They will also comment on your behavior during the years as well. Hope that helps.

 

[littlepepe]

ucsf and ucla are both P/NP

I thought UCSF is grade. When did they change the grading?

 

[EyeAmCommi]

I thought UCSF is grade. When did they change the grading?

Last year I believe.

 

[DREDAY]

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[gryffindor]

UCSF is P/NP for the first 2 years and after that its graded. THey actually changed it to P/NP to make the students more competitive when applying to specialty. THe dean told us that when we had a graded system and had class rankings, someone that went to ucsf would be ranked 50th with a good GPA but get 90s on boards and still not get into specialty because of their rank. Whereas students from other schools would be ranked 1-20 get lower board scores and possibly lower gpa but still get into specialty because of their class rank. So they eliminated teh grading system so that when applying to specialty schools will focus mainly on letters of rec and board scores since gpa and rankings are so subjective depending on what school you attend.

How are gpa & ranks subjective? The higher the gpa, the higher the rank.

 

[DREDAY]

How are gpa & ranks subjective? The higher the gpa, the higher the rank.

Its the same subjectivity that occurs in undergrad because each school has their own curriculum. so a student ranked 30th at harvard could very possibly have been ranked #1 at BU. TO eleminate the subjectivity and put everyone on even playing ground, some schools ahve done away with that ranking system just because it gives all their students fair game at specializing. what was actually happening at ucsf was that lower ranked studnets at ucsf were consistenly scoring higher on the boards than other schools, but because their class rank was lower (possibly due to tougher competition) they would have a harder time getting into specialty.

 

[harvard asda]

harvard is pass/fail for the first two years and then honors/pass/fail for the last two years. i've been told that in any given class, about 15-20% of the class will get honors and about that same number graduates with honors. nobody really fails, because the faculty offer re-takes of tests if we don't pass it the first time and i think most people pass by the second take.

 

[Pelotari]

columbia is honor/pass/fail. it really doesn't make any difference because i still find myself working just as hard as had it been letter-grade. i guess it just decreases the stress by the tiniest bit, but it really doesn't matter much if it's honors/pass/fail or letter graded.



an A versus a C will make a huge difference if you want to specialize and you're applying to the programs. you've gotta think ahead. and for the schools that are h/p/f, an honors vs. a pass will also make a difference.

That's one gnarly avatar, dude.

 

[Yellow Snow]

safe to say all top schools are P/NP?

But then you would have to define "top schools" and that is a pain in the a**.