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I'm a Senior graduating in August 2006 with a Biology degree. My Gpa is is 2.7, but my GPA for my Biology major courses is 3.7 (i believe that's different from a science GPA)
Dat is 20/20/21

The courses in my Biology major were Human Physiology 1 & 2, Human Anatomy w/ Lab, Molecular Genetics, Microbiology, Animal Physiology, Biochemistry, Independent Biology Research, Evolution&Ecology course.

I was Pre-Med until mid junior year of college, until i switched to pre-dent. I have tons of pre-med research and volunteer work, but I just started doing dentistry work my senior year. I volunteered in Surgical ICU at the hospital for 2 years, I did Surgical Pathology research for 1 year, and currently doing Cell and Molecular Biology Research for my major.


I'm going out of the country after graduation in 2006 (Sept-Dec) to volunteer in 3rd world countries, yet I want to apply to dental schools for the incoming class in 2007. After that I plan on working and shadowing a dentist.

Which schools should i apply to that I might have a chance?
Any advice on what I should do to get into a dental school of Fall 2007?

I want to apply to Ohio State, Univ. pitt, and case since its close to home, but I feel that I might not get in.
 
were there any specific courses that contributed to the 2.7 GPA? I mean, 3.7 major GPA and 2.7 overall GPA is a pretty BIG difference.
 
Your stats and extracurriculars seem good. That 2.7 kinda sucks though. See if you can calculate your overall gpa and science gpa. Also I wouldn't plan on travelling between sept-dec (you'll be interviewing at that time). 🙂
 
Well the 3.7 gpa were from the classes i listed that were my bio major classes, the 2.7 gpa is from the rest of the classes (GEC, pre med courses: physics, chemistry, bio, etc) including my bio major course. so the 2.7 gpa is my cum gpa, i'm hoping itll go up, but im sticking w/ the 2.7 to be safe. I did horrible my first two years due to bipolar/manic depression, but once i overcame it i started doing well, but it was too late.


INFNITE said:
were there any specific courses that contributed to the 2.7 GPA? I mean, 3.7 major GPA and 2.7 overall GPA is a pretty BIG difference.
 
Well I plan on applying after I graduate in august, so Sept. 2006 is when im turning everything in, so I don't know when interviews will come in. I have to be in India in december 2006 due to my sister's wedding, so I figured I'll go early to volunteer at the Mother Theresa camp in India fighting against poverty. my 2.7 is the overall cum gpa, im not sure what my science gpa is considered. I thought it was just the physics, bio, and chem courses and not including my bio major courses, but if it is including the bio major courses then my science gpa would go up alot, if not then i hate to admit it, but it would be low. I did amazing w/ my bio work , and stuff i love the most and counted, but i was just immature and lazy about all the busy work in chem and all those pre med/pre dent courses that i just really didnt try - which is biting me in the ass now. So question is - where should i apply with my stats and qualifications in order to get into a decent dental school or even get into one?



tinman831 said:
Your stats and extracurriculars seem good. That 2.7 kinda sucks though. See if you can calculate your overall gpa and science gpa. Also I wouldn't plan on travelling between sept-dec (you'll be interviewing at that time). 🙂
 
miraj112 said:
Well I plan on applying after I graduate in august, so Sept. 2006 is when im turning everything in, so I don't know when interviews will come in. I have to be in India in december 2006 due to my sister's wedding, so I figured I'll go early to volunteer at the Mother Theresa camp in India fighting against poverty. my 2.7 is the overall cum gpa, im not sure what my science gpa is considered. I thought it was just the physics, bio, and chem courses and not including my bio major courses, but if it is including the bio major courses then my science gpa would go up alot, if not then i hate to admit it, but it would be low. I did amazing w/ my bio work , and stuff i love the most and counted, but i was just immature and lazy about all the busy work in chem and all those pre med/pre dent courses that i just really didnt try - which is biting me in the ass now. So question is - where should i apply with my stats and qualifications in order to get into a decent dental school or even get into one?

Don't wait so late to turn everything in. For people who have average stats, it would be to their advantage to apply early (May). You can submit the rest of your classes when you graduate. Besides, you never know when you might get an interview. If you were out of town when you did get an interview invite and didn't respond, the school will assume you are no longer interested in their school and will throw your application out. 🙂
 
tinman831 said:
Don't wait so late to turn everything in. For people who have average stats, it would be to their advantage to apply early (May). You can submit the rest of your classes when you graduate. Besides, you never know when you might get an interview. If you were out of town when you did get an interview invite and didn't respond, the school will assume you are no longer interested in their school and will throw your application out. 🙂



well I feel that my gpa will be better after I graduate, but lets say apply early - which schools should I apply to with my stats?
 
miraj112 said:
Well the 3.7 gpa were from the classes i listed that were my bio major classes, the 2.7 gpa is from the rest of the classes (GEC, pre med courses: physics, chemistry, bio, etc) including my bio major course. so the 2.7 gpa is my cum gpa, i'm hoping itll go up, but im sticking w/ the 2.7 to be safe. I did horrible my first two years due to bipolar/manic depression, but once i overcame it i started doing well, but it was too late.


I hate to say it, but I doubt you have any chance of getting into dental school regardless of how great you will score on the DAT. You need to raise to a minimum of 3.1. Even with a 3.1, you have to have superb DAT scores to get in. Do a masters program, and get a 4.0.
 
miraj112 said:
I'm a Senior graduating in August 2006 with a Biology degree. My Gpa is is 2.7, but my GPA for my Biology major courses is 3.7 (i believe that's different from a science GPA)
Dat is 20/20/21

The courses in my Biology major were Human Physiology 1 & 2, Human Anatomy w/ Lab, Molecular Genetics, Microbiology, Animal Physiology, Biochemistry, Independent Biology Research, Evolution&Ecology course.

Those courses add up to about 25-30 credits, and if u averaged a 3.7 in those, that means u mustve had around a 2.4 for the rest of your classes...things dont look so bright
 
ok....i will be frank with you

listen up buddy, why the f...k are you obsessed with extracuricular crap? why the heck are you going to 3'd world countries. you're being a little strange and silly. you've done tons of volunteer/community stuff and now it's time to focus on your GPA for crying out loud. if i were you, i'd stick around in the U.S and brown-nose people and mobilize connections so that i'd get in. dental schools are not too crazy about extracurricular stuff like med-schools because the competition for dental schools is not as fierce as it is with med-schools. at least not yet. d-schools will look at your stats and how you'd affect their class stats. so please forget about that extracuricular bullcrap and stinky 3'd world country business and get yourself a job after graduation to make a few bucks that would serve you well when you go to d-school. however, you need to stay away from schools that have small classes because small class averages (small sample) dont resist outliers and your GPA is an outlier.

you WILL get into d-school if you apply early and if you use your manic/bipolar depressive disorder in a smart way.....your personnal statement should explain how you took a negative thing like manic depression and made a positive thing out of it....somewhere in the neighborhood of "above all odds and in spite of my mental handicap, i have been able to do well at my major classes and my DAT .....blah blah blah...my disability has taught me how to persevere and look at the bright side of things...i kindly ask of the admissions committee to consider my application as a whole and not focus on my flaw (GPA)...i have many strengths that can compensate for my weaknesses and these are...blah blah blah...i feel that i can bring inspiration to your entering class through blah blah blah...."..you know the rest..

also, i have an advice for you: PLEASE DO NOT APPLY TO D-SCHOOL BECAUSE YOU COULD NOT GET INTO MED-SCHOOL. IT IS UNFAIR FOR THOSE WHO HAVE A GENUINE AND DEEP-SEATED DESIRE TO BECOME DENTISTS. ALSO YOU'D NEVER BE HAPPY AND ALWAYS FEEL INFERIOR TO PHYSICIANS. IF YOU WANT TO BE A PHYSICIAN, YOU NEED TO GET A 30 (NOT LESS SINCE YOUR GPA IS LOW) ON THE MCAT AND APPLY TO OSTEOPATHIC MED-SCHOOLS (DONT WASTE TIME AND MONEY APPLYING TO ALLOPATHIC and if you cannot get 30 or above on the MCAT, than dont even bother DO schools cus they wont take you either and dont give up on the MCAT until you've taken it thrice). IF THESE DONT TAKE YOU, PICK up YOUR LUGGAGE AND A GOOD SWIM SUIT AND RIDE THE BULLET TO THE CARRIBEAN....

i know i am being harsh but you do need a reality check. you'll thank me for it later.
 
fightingspirit said:
ok....i will be frank with you

listen up buddy, why the f...k are you obsessed with extracuricular crap? why the heck are you going to 3'd world countries. you're being a little strange and silly. you've done tons of volunteer/community stuff and now it's time to focus on your GPA for crying out loud. if i were you, i'd stick around in the U.S and brown-nose people and mobilize connections so that i'd get in. dental schools are not too crazy about extracurricular stuff like med-schools because the competition for dental schools is not as fierce as it is with med-schools. at least not yet. d-schools will look at your stats and how you'd affect their class stats. so please forget about that extracuricular bullcrap and stinky 3'd world country business and get yourself a job after graduation to make a few bucks that would serve you well when you go to d-school. however, you need to stay away from schools that have small classes because small class averages (small sample) dont resist outliers and your GPA is an outlier.

you WILL get into d-school if you apply early and if you use your manic/bipolar depressive disorder in a smart way.....your personnal statement should explain how you took a negative thing like manic depression and made a positive thing out of it....somewhere in the neighborhood of "above all odds and in spite of my mental handicap, i have been able to do well at my major classes and my DAT .....blah blah blah...my disability has taught me how to persevere and look at the bright side of things...i kindly ask of the admissions committee to consider my application as a whole and not focus on my flaw (GPA)...i have many strengths that can compensate for my weaknesses and these are...blah blah blah...i feel that i can bring inspiration to your entering class through blah blah blah...."..you know the rest..

also, i have an advice for you: PLEASE DO NOT APPLY TO D-SCHOOL BECAUSE YOU COULD NOT GET INTO MED-SCHOOL. IT IS UNFAIR FOR THOSE WHO HAVE A GENUINE AND DEEP-SEATED DESIRE TO BECOME DENTISTS. ALSO YOU'D NEVER BE HAPPY AND ALWAYS FEEL INFERIOR TO PHYSICIANS. IF YOU WANT TO BE A PHYSICIAN, YOU NEED TO GET A 30 (NOT LESS SINCE YOUR GPA IS LOW) ON THE MCAT AND APPLY TO OSTEOPATHIC MED-SCHOOLS (DONT WASTE TIME AND MONEY APPLYING TO ALLOPATHIC and if you cannot get 30 or above on the MCAT, than dont even bother DO schools cus they wont take you either and dont give up on the MCAT until you've taken it thrice). IF THESE DONT TAKE YOU, PICK up YOUR LUGGAGE AND A GOOD SWIM SUIT AND RIDE THE BULLET TO THE CARRIBEAN....

i know i am being harsh but you do need a reality check. you'll thank me for it later.


Dude you need to chill and there are other ways to give advice without being harsh. I'm not really stressin' about it so there's no reason for you to. Sometimes you don't always get what you want, and that's life, but you shouldn't obsess about it. You move on and see what's the next step. Do not make assumptions and judgements when you don't know the full story. The reason I'm going to India are for personal reasons, and people up there including some of my family need the help. If you read the earlier posts, I'm graduating in August 2006, and wanted to apply for the entering class of 2007. I don't need to get a job or work because money is not my biggest concern, and if I do have the time off, might as well help people if I can instead of just staying here for my own selfish reasons just to make money. Also my sister is getting married in India in December, so I figured I can just go early, but since people advised me not to go, I decided not to, but you need to chill. Second, my GPA is on the uprise, I have 3 quarters left including this one before graduation, so yes my focus is on my GPA, and so far I'm doing well on it, but it's too late to get it up to what I want it to be. And for your last advice, I'm not a med school reject, and dental school is not just a back up plan, I decided to switch my junior year due to other reasons not because I felt it was too difficult, If i wanted to go to med school, i can put my mind into it and really do it with all means possible even going to carribeans since few of my relatives got their MD degree through the carribeans, so im not just sucking it up and **** like that. I decided that I want to go through dental because I like the curriculum better, the time span, and yet I still can make a difference in people's lives. I like the time span due to personal family reasons because I DO have to pick up family responsibilities in the near future. If you do not know what I HAVE went through, don't be harsh in an ignorant manner. Even through what difficulties i have been, I'm not stressing it and let it ruin my life. **** happens, and you have to move on. I'm trying my best of what I am doing, so don't give me that reality check bull****. And yeah, you being a future doctor and all (hopefully) you'll realize that certain illnesses such as Manic Depressive are not fun to mock of or make fun of, and hopefully u're not like this with your patients in the future. Unlike some people I do care in making a difference in people's lives the positive way. The only reason I post this forum up is if I can get some CONSTRUCTIVE advice NOT criticism. So don't respond treating me like I'm some **** up, because I guarantee you I'm ten times the man you'll ever be. I'm sorry in being so harsh, but you need to be open-minded and not respond in an ignorant manner. Maybe you're the one who needs the reality check.


So back to the topic at hand,

I want to apply in late August because my GPA will be higher, and I will have more dental observership experience. I will have a year off and instead of working what should I do in order to help me better in getting into dental school if I get rejected from everywhere I apply? And another thing, noone really has responded to the original question at hand..where should I apply with my stats? When should I apply due to my GPA dilemma, since I will have a better GPA after I graduate? Please respond in a CONSTRUCTIVE manner? This is not a put down / rant forum. I believe we're all mature now.
 
americanpierg said:
Those courses add up to about 25-30 credits, and if u averaged a 3.7 in those, that means u mustve had around a 2.4 for the rest of your classes...things dont look so bright


They are around 40 credits.
 
I don't think dental schools care about exuses. They will take a good applicant with high scores over a bad applicant with exuses. The gpa needs to be raised dramatically. I honestly do not see how this person has any chance of getting in. They have to raise the gpa signficantly, no question about it.

fightingspirit said:
ok....i will be frank with you

listen up buddy, why the f...k are you obsessed with extracuricular crap? why the heck are you going to 3'd world countries. you're being a little strange and silly. you've done tons of volunteer/community stuff and now it's time to focus on your GPA for crying out loud. if i were you, i'd stick around in the U.S and brown-nose people and mobilize connections so that i'd get in. dental schools are not too crazy about extracurricular stuff like med-schools because the competition for dental schools is not as fierce as it is with med-schools. at least not yet. d-schools will look at your stats and how you'd affect their class stats. so please forget about that extracuricular bullcrap and stinky 3'd world country business and get yourself a job after graduation to make a few bucks that would serve you well when you go to d-school. however, you need to stay away from schools that have small classes because small class averages (small sample) dont resist outliers and your GPA is an outlier.

you WILL get into d-school if you apply early and if you use your manic/bipolar depressive disorder in a smart way.....your personnal statement should explain how you took a negative thing like manic depression and made a positive thing out of it....somewhere in the neighborhood of "above all odds and in spite of my mental handicap, i have been able to do well at my major classes and my DAT .....blah blah blah...my disability has taught me how to persevere and look at the bright side of things...i kindly ask of the admissions committee to consider my application as a whole and not focus on my flaw (GPA)...i have many strengths that can compensate for my weaknesses and these are...blah blah blah...i feel that i can bring inspiration to your entering class through blah blah blah...."..you know the rest..

also, i have an advice for you: PLEASE DO NOT APPLY TO D-SCHOOL BECAUSE YOU COULD NOT GET INTO MED-SCHOOL. IT IS UNFAIR FOR THOSE WHO HAVE A GENUINE AND DEEP-SEATED DESIRE TO BECOME DENTISTS. ALSO YOU'D NEVER BE HAPPY AND ALWAYS FEEL INFERIOR TO PHYSICIANS. IF YOU WANT TO BE A PHYSICIAN, YOU NEED TO GET A 30 (NOT LESS SINCE YOUR GPA IS LOW) ON THE MCAT AND APPLY TO OSTEOPATHIC MED-SCHOOLS (DONT WASTE TIME AND MONEY APPLYING TO ALLOPATHIC and if you cannot get 30 or above on the MCAT, than dont even bother DO schools cus they wont take you either and dont give up on the MCAT until you've taken it thrice). IF THESE DONT TAKE YOU, PICK up YOUR LUGGAGE AND A GOOD SWIM SUIT AND RIDE THE BULLET TO THE CARRIBEAN....

i know i am being harsh but you do need a reality check. you'll thank me for it later.
 
SunnyDay said:
I don't think dental schools care about exuses. They will take a good applicant with high scores over a bad applicant with exuses. The gpa needs to be raised dramatically. I honestly do not see how this person has any chance of getting in. They have to raise the gpa signficantly, no question about it.


you need to check out the acceptances in the under 3.0 forum.

Which schools have the post-bacc programs which guarantees you a seat in the next class if you do well?
 
miraj112 said:
I want to apply in late August because my GPA will be higher, and I will have more dental observership experience. I will have a year off and instead of working what should I do in order to help me better in getting into dental school if I get rejected from everywhere I apply? And another thing, noone really has responded to the original question at hand..where should I apply with my stats? When should I apply due to my GPA dilemma, since I will have a better GPA after I graduate? Please respond in a CONSTRUCTIVE manner? This is not a put down / rant forum. I believe we're all mature now.

APPLY IN MAY!

Applying early is much better than applying with a slightly higher GPA. Even if you apply early with a lower GPA, you can talk to the admissions people and send in transcripts after your grades are in (that is, if you feel it'll make that great of a difference).
 
philicity said:
APPLY IN MAY!

Applying early is much better than applying with a slightly higher GPA. Even if you apply early with a lower GPA, you can talk to the admissions people and send in transcripts after your grades are in (that is, if you feel it'll make that great of a difference).

What schools do you recommend?
 
miraj112 said:
What schools do you recommend?


You should buy the ADEA Official Guide to Dental Schools (the latest edition) and see which schools typically accept students with lower stats -- maybe Howard? I'm not sure off the top of my head which other schools you'd have a chance at, but I think to maximize your chances you will have to apply to quite a few schools.

I agree with some of the other posters and recommend that you apply as early as possible. The process can be very long and frustrating, and there's a lot of waiting involved. If you want to have a chance, with your stats, I would not advise you to apply any later than June.

If anything, you can mention something in your personal statement about how you are steadily improving and how by the time you get your degree, you will have improved your grades so much. Also, contact the Admissions Office of the schools where you would like to apply and explain your situation to the dean or something like that. Chances are that if they do consider you for admission, they will want to see your final transcript before they make a decision anyway.

The best piece of advice that anyone here can give you is to APPLY EARLY. Don't wait until August. You can always send updates.
 
fightingspirit said:
ok....i will be frank with you

listen up buddy, why the f...k are you obsessed with extracuricular crap? why the heck are you going to 3'd world countries. you're being a little strange and silly. you've done tons of volunteer/community stuff and now it's time to focus on your GPA for crying out loud. if i were you, i'd stick around in the U.S and brown-nose people and mobilize connections so that i'd get in. dental schools are not too crazy about extracurricular stuff like med-schools because the competition for dental schools is not as fierce as it is with med-schools. at least not yet. d-schools will look at your stats and how you'd affect their class stats. so please forget about that extracuricular bullcrap and stinky 3'd world country business and get yourself a job after graduation to make a few bucks that would serve you well when you go to d-school. however, you need to stay away from schools that have small classes because small class averages (small sample) dont resist outliers and your GPA is an outlier.

you WILL get into d-school if you apply early and if you use your manic/bipolar depressive disorder in a smart way.....your personnal statement should explain how you took a negative thing like manic depression and made a positive thing out of it....somewhere in the neighborhood of "above all odds and in spite of my mental handicap, i have been able to do well at my major classes and my DAT .....blah blah blah...my disability has taught me how to persevere and look at the bright side of things...i kindly ask of the admissions committee to consider my application as a whole and not focus on my flaw (GPA)...i have many strengths that can compensate for my weaknesses and these are...blah blah blah...i feel that i can bring inspiration to your entering class through blah blah blah...."..you know the rest..

also, i have an advice for you: PLEASE DO NOT APPLY TO D-SCHOOL BECAUSE YOU COULD NOT GET INTO MED-SCHOOL. IT IS UNFAIR FOR THOSE WHO HAVE A GENUINE AND DEEP-SEATED DESIRE TO BECOME DENTISTS. ALSO YOU'D NEVER BE HAPPY AND ALWAYS FEEL INFERIOR TO PHYSICIANS. IF YOU WANT TO BE A PHYSICIAN, YOU NEED TO GET A 30 (NOT LESS SINCE YOUR GPA IS LOW) ON THE MCAT AND APPLY TO OSTEOPATHIC MED-SCHOOLS (DONT WASTE TIME AND MONEY APPLYING TO ALLOPATHIC and if you cannot get 30 or above on the MCAT, than dont even bother DO schools cus they wont take you either and dont give up on the MCAT until you've taken it thrice). IF THESE DONT TAKE YOU, PICK up YOUR LUGGAGE AND A GOOD SWIM SUIT AND RIDE THE BULLET TO THE CARRIBEAN....

i know i am being harsh but you do need a reality check. you'll thank me for it later.

Wow harsh words from a harsh man....i just have one problem with what u said FightingSpirit.

I have noooooooo problem with a person applying to dental school cause they couldnt get into med school. If they get into dental school and another person doesnt, guess what that means??? The person who got in was thought to be a better applicant then the one that didnt get in. So dont give that bs about it being "unfair" to others. Everyone will apply through the same process..id call that pretty fair.

And lastly, about the poster SunnyDay:
As miraj said in his reply to you...read the UNDER 3.0 club thread...Some people really need to know what they talk about before they give advice. Once u read that, you will see that this guy does have a shot if he does really good on his DAT.

Sorry, i dont mean this to be another "harsh" reply (as FightingSpirit would say), but some of you people are just naive.

Good luck miraj..im sure u can do it if u really want it!
 
fightingspirit said:
ok....i will be frank with you

listen up buddy, why the f...k are you obsessed with extracuricular crap? why the heck are you going to 3'd world countries. you're being a little strange and silly. you've done tons of volunteer/community stuff and now it's time to focus on your GPA for crying out loud. if i were you, i'd stick around in the U.S and brown-nose people and mobilize connections so that i'd get in. dental schools are not too crazy about extracurricular stuff like med-schools because the competition for dental schools is not as fierce as it is with med-schools. at least not yet. d-schools will look at your stats and how you'd affect their class stats. so please forget about that extracuricular bullcrap and stinky 3'd world country business and get yourself a job after graduation to make a few bucks that would serve you well when you go to d-school. however, you need to stay away from schools that have small classes because small class averages (small sample) dont resist outliers and your GPA is an outlier.

you WILL get into d-school if you apply early and if you use your manic/bipolar depressive disorder in a smart way.....your personnal statement should explain how you took a negative thing like manic depression and made a positive thing out of it....somewhere in the neighborhood of "above all odds and in spite of my mental handicap, i have been able to do well at my major classes and my DAT .....blah blah blah...my disability has taught me how to persevere and look at the bright side of things...i kindly ask of the admissions committee to consider my application as a whole and not focus on my flaw (GPA)...i have many strengths that can compensate for my weaknesses and these are...blah blah blah...i feel that i can bring inspiration to your entering class through blah blah blah...."..you know the rest..

also, i have an advice for you: PLEASE DO NOT APPLY TO D-SCHOOL BECAUSE YOU COULD NOT GET INTO MED-SCHOOL. IT IS UNFAIR FOR THOSE WHO HAVE A GENUINE AND DEEP-SEATED DESIRE TO BECOME DENTISTS. ALSO YOU'D NEVER BE HAPPY AND ALWAYS FEEL INFERIOR TO PHYSICIANS. IF YOU WANT TO BE A PHYSICIAN, YOU NEED TO GET A 30 (NOT LESS SINCE YOUR GPA IS LOW) ON THE MCAT AND APPLY TO OSTEOPATHIC MED-SCHOOLS (DONT WASTE TIME AND MONEY APPLYING TO ALLOPATHIC and if you cannot get 30 or above on the MCAT, than dont even bother DO schools cus they wont take you either and dont give up on the MCAT until you've taken it thrice). IF THESE DONT TAKE YOU, PICK up YOUR LUGGAGE AND A GOOD SWIM SUIT AND RIDE THE BULLET TO THE CARRIBEAN....

i know i am being harsh but you do need a reality check. you'll thank me for it later.


Wow... It looks like fightingspirit has a chip on the shoulder.

Yes a 2.7 is a low GPA.. But your DAT looks good and your ECs looks even better. Which leads me to my point.

For some reason many pre-dents underestimate the significance of ECs. Having a good GPA is not the only thing dental schools want to see. You have to be a complete package. You need to have a little of everything. I know that my ECs and interview are basically what got me into dental school.

Back to your GPA.... I hate to say it but your Bio GPA does not mean anything. The two GPAs that you need to be looking at is overall and BCP (bio/chem/phys). That will give you a better idea of where you stand in the applicant pool.

Lastly, take the advice you get here (SDN) with a grain of salt. I am no expert and fightingspirit is not one either.

As for schools to apply to... You need to use your strength... research. Find schools that are research oriented and apply there.

As for applying to Howard... I have been called a "racist" for saying this, but I will keep saying it. Unless you are a minority your chances of getting in there are weak. So personally I would not waste my money.

So what should you do? Get A's this semester, apply to dental school and have a back up plan. Be thinking about a 1 year grad program.

Good luck,
-C
 
SuperC said:
As for applying to Howard... I have been called a "racist" for saying this, but I will keep saying it. Unless you are a minority your chances of getting in there are weak. So personally I would not waste my money.


Good luck,
-C

I know that Meharry will not hold it against you if you are not African-American as long as you have a lot of volunteer service.
 
SunnyDay said:
I know that Meharry will not hold it against you if you are not African-American as long as you have a lot of volunteer service.
Meharry 2004-2005
48 total enrollment
38 african-american
4 asian-american
2 hispanic

DAT: AA 15.81, PAT 15.44
GPA: Overall 3.00, Science 2.81

I'm all for diversity -- especially in health care where minority doctors are under-represented and minority populations are under-served. But let's not pretend that the color of your skin doesn't matter to Meharry and Howard...
 
syn_apse said:
Meharry 2004-2005
48 total enrollment
38 african-american
4 asian-american
2 hispanic

DAT: AA 15.81, PAT 15.44
GPA: Overall 3.00, Science 2.81

I'm all for diversity -- especially in health care where minority doctors are under-represented and minority populations are under-served. But let's not pretend that the color of your skin doesn't matter to Meharry and Howard...

It matters, but you can certainly get in without being African American. On the day I interviewed, there were 9 people. Only two were African American. You have to consider that many non-African Americans turn down the school. I did for a cheaper school. Just because most of the matriculants are African American does not mean that they don't accept a lot of applicants that are not.
 
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