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New Mexico
Nevada
Texas
Florida
Louisiana
Arkansas
Mississippi
Georgia
Alabama
South Carolina
Oklahoma
Tennessee
North Carolina

+Reasonable chances to get into local medical / and especially osteopathic schools

Brother got married and moved out so I need to move anyways.
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+Sunny and warm:

Arizona
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Nevada
Texas
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Arkansas
Mississippi
Georgia
Alabama
South Carolina

+Reasonable chances to get into local medical / and especially osteopathic schools

Brother got married and moved out so I need to move anyways.
Recommendations?
They're all very IS friendly (TX somewhat more competitive IS though)

Do you want dry heat or wet heat?

As for DO schools, none of the state son your list have a state DO school except TX.

I can't recommend BCOM (NM) nor WCU (MS).
 
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They're all very IS friendly (TX somewhat more competitive IS though)

Do you want dry heat or wet heat?

As for DO schools, none of the state son your list have a state DO school except TX.

I can't recommend BCOM (NM) nor WCU (MS).


Thanks for the response!

Don't care about what kind of heat....just want sun.

Arkansas have strong IS preference

Yes, I was thinking about that state. Its high on my list.

Also, adding Tennesse, Oklahoma, and North Carolina to my list.
 
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A lot of these states are VERY different from each other. I would at least try to visit a few of the areas before making a decision. Not sure where you are moving from, but I would choose Texas or North Carolina purely for quality of life.
 
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NM is very Is friendly with a very low mean mcat (I think 505?) but ABQ isn’t the best city and has snow in winter. AZ is pleasant with 2 medical schools but it is very hot in summer. TX is competitive and many programs are away from the major cities if that is important to you. I don’t know if there is enough money that would cause me to move to AR. I’ve spent time in MI, LO, and SC and personally I prefer SC.
 

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I think your chances of getting in anywhere depend much more on your overall profile as an applicant than your state residency. Texas has about a million medical schools (3 DO and 12 MD, I think?) but as others have pointed out, they can be competitive for IS.

I'd think about what you want your quality of life and cost of living to look like as well. What kind of social climate do you prefer? What's your budget? Any natural disasters freak you out more than others?

I'd personally go to North Carolina. 4 MD schools (UNC Chapel Hill with IS preference, and Brody @ East Carolina University accepts only NC residents) and 1 pretty good DO school. Arizona comes in a close second (both of their MD schools are public with IS preference, 2 decent DO schools) if you can deal with the fry-an-egg-on-the-sidewalk summer heat, which it seems like you can.
 
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Thanks for the great tips. North Carolina, Arizona, and New Mexico look pretty good then. Arkansas looks good too, some good forests for hiking. Just need a school and some sun :)
 
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Thanks for the great tips. North Carolina, Arizona, and New Mexico look pretty good then. Arkansas looks good too, some good forests for hiking. Just need a school and some sun :)
New Mexico is not looking good because New Mexico's adcoms will probably think you're just moving there to get into medical school and will then leave. In 1993 a woman named Paula Buchwald applied to UNM's medical school after moving to New Mexico in 1991. She met all of the requirements for admission but was repeatedly rejected because the adcoms thought they were being conned. She sued in federal court claiming that several of her constitutional protections were violated. She ultimately lost because the U.S. court of Appeals held that New Mexico had a compelling state interest to train doctors who would stay.

I think you're foolish to hold out for a tan. Do you really want to be a physician? If so, the places to move are either Michigan or Ohio. Those states have tons of seats including a large D.O. school in each state.
 
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I feel like the best options in the sun are:
Kentucky - 2 public MD (both very attainable), 1 DO
Arizona - 2 public MD (3 with Mayo), 2 DO
Nevada - 2 public MD, 1 DO
South Carolina - 3 Public MD, 1 DO
Florida - 5 public MD (8 total), 3 DO
Louisiana - 2 public MD (3 total), 1 DO
Alabama - 2 public MD, 2 DO
Tennessee - 2 public MD (4 total, but chances at the other two are slim), 2 DO

Places like NM, Arkansas, OK, and MS are fine, but with only one public MD program, you kind of put all your eggs in one basket whereas most of the states I listed above have multiple attainable MD programs. NC and TX have pretty competitive MD programs.
 
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I feel like the best options in the sun are:
Arizona - 2 public MD (3 with Mayo), 2 DO
Nevada - 2 public MD, 1 DO
South Carolina - 3 Public MD, 1 DO
Florida - 5 public MD (8 total), 3 DO
Louisiana - 2 public MD (3 total), 1 DO
Alabama - 2 public MD, 2 DO
Tennessee - 2 public MD (4 total, but chances at the other two are slim), 2 DO

Places like NM, Arkansas, OK, and MS are fine, but with only one public MD program, you kind of put all your eggs in one basket whereas most of the states I listed above have multiple attainable MD programs. NC and TX have pretty competitive MD programs.

Thanks, looks great. Florida especially with so many schools.
 

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Thanks, looks great. Florida especially with so many schools.
Please don't get too excited about Florida. It is one of the worst states in the country in terms of outcomes. Yes, it has a lot of schools. It also has a lot of applicants. In 2019-20, FL had 3,493 med school applicants -- 708 matriculated IS, 481 OOS, and 2,304 nowhere at all.
 

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If you look at the AAMC tables, Puerto Rico, Kentucky and West virginia would be the easiest for in state students.

Puerto Rico for instance has an average MCAT instate of 499. Knowing Spanish would be a mandatory requirement there.


MCATGPAMatriculantsApplicantsChance of matriculating
Kentucky508.53.7736061359
West Virginia506.43.7414024757
Vermont512.43.75610454
Rhode Island514.23.775811750
Indiana512.23.8137976550
South Dakota509.43.748016449
Massachusetts514.53.72624129848
Puerto Rico4993.6230463648
Arkansas507.53.7317837448
New Mexico506.13.7412626548
New York512.73.691674353047
New Hampshire514.23.725511747
Nebraska511.53.7814530947
Pennsylvania513.13.74767164247
Ohio511.43.75825179446
Connecticut514.13.7228261546
Alabama508.83.7726557946
District of Columbia511.83.554710346
Montana508.13.745712645
New Jersey513.13.72873193445
Wisconsin512.13.7637382745
South Carolina509.23.7432672445
Maryland512.53.69528117345
Louisiana507.83.7139186945
Alaska509.43.68419543
Missouri511.43.833277143
Kansas510.43.7822252442
Oklahoma508.93.7918744642
Minnesota511.63.7441899742
California513.63.692603622842
Illinois511.63.71934224142
Wyoming511.33.78297041
Tennessee510.23.7235585741
Maine512.23.7419941
Michigan511.13.73811197441
Nevada510.13.7114034141
NATIONWIDE511.53.73218695337141
North Carolina5123.68537132241
Mississippi503.83.7718545740
Georgia5103.71654161640
Washington512.43.69448113539
Virginia512.93.68541140738
Hawaii511.53.7410126538
Delaware512.73.723810138
Idaho510.13.787520137
Oregon512.63.7420557236
Colorado512.93.7530084536
Texas511.43.771720489535
Iowa512.43.8112836835
North Dakota507.13.85315534
Florida510.73.741189349334
Utah513.43.7921263234
Arizona511.13.7730091633
 
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If you look at the AAMC tables, Puerto Rico, Kentucky and West virginia would be the easiest for in state students.

Puerto Rico for instance has an average MCAT instate of 499. Knowing Spanish would be a mandatory requirement there.


MCATGPAMatriculantsApplicantsChance of matriculating
Kentucky508.53.7736061359
West Virginia506.43.7414024757
Vermont512.43.75610454
Rhode Island514.23.775811750
Indiana512.23.8137976550
South Dakota509.43.748016449
Massachusetts514.53.72624129848
Puerto Rico4993.6230463648
Arkansas507.53.7317837448
New Mexico506.13.7412626548
New York512.73.691674353047
New Hampshire514.23.725511747
Nebraska511.53.7814530947
Pennsylvania513.13.74767164247
Ohio511.43.75825179446
Connecticut514.13.7228261546
Alabama508.83.7726557946
District of Columbia511.83.554710346
Montana508.13.745712645
New Jersey513.13.72873193445
Wisconsin512.13.7637382745
South Carolina509.23.7432672445
Maryland512.53.69528117345
Louisiana507.83.7139186945
Alaska509.43.68419543
Missouri511.43.833277143
Kansas510.43.7822252442
Oklahoma508.93.7918744642
Minnesota511.63.7441899742
California513.63.692603622842
Illinois511.63.71934224142
Wyoming511.33.78297041
Tennessee510.23.7235585741
Maine512.23.7419941
Michigan511.13.73811197441
Nevada510.13.7114034141
NATIONWIDE511.53.73218695337141
North Carolina5123.68537132241
Mississippi503.83.7718545740
Georgia5103.71654161640
Washington512.43.69448113539
Virginia512.93.68541140738
Hawaii511.53.7410126538
Delaware512.73.723810138
Idaho510.13.787520137
Oregon512.63.7420557236
Colorado512.93.7530084536
Texas511.43.771720489535
Iowa512.43.8112836835
North Dakota507.13.85315534
Florida510.73.741189349334
Utah513.43.7921263234
Arizona511.13.7730091633
Yeah, well, I'll guess there is a reason those three places were not on OP's initial list!!! :cool:
 

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Yeah, well, I'll guess there is a reason those three places were not on OP's initial list!!! :cool:


Some of the states mentioned as "easy" for in state are in fact the toughest states for in-state students--texas and arizona looks terrible .

Michigan and Ohio are great choices.
 
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Some of the states mentioned as "easy" for in state are in fact the toughest states for in-state students--texas and arizona looks terrible .

Michigan and Ohio are great choices.
Definitely!! My point was more of a joke, pointing out that PR, KY and WV have low stats and relatively high odds for a reason, while trying not to be too insulting to those places. The other problem for OP is that the IS preferences are there for a reason, and adcoms are not stupid when it comes to applicants trying to game a system in order to gain an advantage.

So, establishing recent residency won't work at schools that really care about the reason for the preference. MI and OH are great places to have grown up and gone to school. I'm not sure moving to Ann Arbor to establish residency during a gap year before applying to UMich is really going to make a difference for anyone (although, who knows, maybe it will if they think it demonstrates a commitment to staying in MI?).
 

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I feel like the best options in the sun are:
Arizona - 2 public MD (3 with Mayo), 2 DO
Nevada - 2 public MD, 1 DO
South Carolina - 3 Public MD, 1 DO
Florida - 5 public MD (8 total), 3 DO
Louisiana - 2 public MD (3 total), 1 DO
Alabama - 2 public MD, 2 DO
Tennessee - 2 public MD (4 total, but chances at the other two are slim), 2 DO

Places like NM, Arkansas, OK, and MS are fine, but with only one public MD program, you kind of put all your eggs in one basket whereas most of the states I listed above have multiple attainable MD programs. NC and TX have pretty competitive MD programs.

I would use this list only after checking to see what it takes to gain residency in each state. A lot of places require that you live, work, and pay taxes for a year+ before you can be considered an in-state candidate, especially for tuition purposes. I would probably choose NV myself, for ability to gain residency easily (if you have full-time employment there), tax benefits (no income tax), mild climate, and state schools.
 
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Thanks, looks great. Florida especially with so many schools.
I'm born and raised in FL and moved around some in the state, feel free to PM if you have any questions about different cities/ areas
 
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Florida
Louisiana
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Alabama
South Carolina
Oklahoma
Tennessee
North Carolina

+Reasonable chances to get into local medical / and especially osteopathic schools

Brother got married and moved out so I need to move anyways.
Recommendations?
The best states in the country are Texas, Hawaii, Colorado, Michigan, Arizona, and Maine.

Totally not biased.
 
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After all the discussion, I would probably narrow my sunny list to Kentucky, Alabama, South Carolina, and Louisiana. All have above-average matriculation rates (Kentucky being the best) with multiple attainable MD schools. You could also throw Ohio on there, but they definitely get some snow.

Having lived in Louisville for a little bit, I think Kentucky is a great option. UK alone accepts over half of Kentucky applicants.
 
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