Which surgeons have the best hands?

[aalamruad]

There is an anesthesiologist somewhere with an IQ of 60.

There's no way that's true, must have been drunk/half asleep/randomly choosing answers on the IQ test or something like that

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[Frogger27]

Instead of asking which surgeons have the best hands, it may have been more useful to ask which surgical procedure requires the steadiest hands.

But to answer the question - Ophthalmology. And in my opinion, it's not even close. Neurosurgery, Ortho, and Vascular might have long surgeries, but the delicacy required in Ophthalmology might be unrivaled.

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But it's still a terrible question. You should do what you like, and then do it to the best of your technical ability. There are incredibly challenging operations in all surgical specialties, and doing even a routine case flawlessly is probably beyond most people's ability. Caring about which surgical specialty requires the "perfect hands" is one of the most premed things I've seen on allo (oops I mean whatever the new name is) in a while.

Agree with above, the question should have been framed as "which surgical procedures require the steadiest hands or which surgical subspecialty requires the steadiest hands as a whole?".

But with all due respect, I did not ask the question because I care about which one has "the perfect hands." Of course one should pick what specialty they like and do it to the best of their ability... The question was meant to be exploratory and to hear about different procedures in a range of surgical specialties that take great precision.

 

[bannie22]

Apparently nobody has seen Dr. Strange remove a bullet from someone's brain without stealth navigation....

Congenital heart surgery.

lol who uses stealth for bullet removal? just do crani and dig

I use 12-O nylon for bypass

wow. smallest ive seen has been 10-0

 

[mcworbust]

Speaking of triggers, I've been waiting for an opportunity to post something I saw hanging up at my school that triggered me hard.

 

[AnatomyGrey12]

lol who uses stealth for bullet removal? just do crani and dig

Not Dr. Strange bannie... not Dr. Stephen Strange

 

[YoungDoc25]

I would hope my urologist has the best hands. The womb broom deserves the best

 

[Brorthopedic]

I kind of want to stir the pot and say Derm

 

[IlyaR]

There is an anesthesiologist somewhere with an IQ of 60.

 

[Mad Jack]

Really though, colorectal probably has the best hands, given the uh, gentle nature with which they must assess certain anorectal pathologies.

 

[AlteredScale]

Really though, colorectal probably has the best hands, given the uh, gentle nature with which they must assess certain anorectal pathologies.

What about gastroenterology? Have you seen how they handle that snake?!


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[Stagg737]

Speaking of triggers, I've been waiting for an opportunity to post something I saw hanging up at my school that triggered me hard.

That's where Mr. Sharpie comes in with some creative editing...

 

[zeppelinpage4]

I'd say urology, some of those dude have been getting hands on experience since their pre-teens...

 

[Doctor-S]

I want to place a check mark next to each surgical subspecialty listed in @Frogger27's poll.

All surgeons need "steady hands." Yup, not gonna single out any subspecialty because all of them need steady hands - ortho, ophthal, neuro, vascular, etc - steady, steady, steady - especially if the surgeon is operating on you or me!!!

 

[bannie22]

u know u really wanted to ask which surgical subspecialty gets the most chicks.

 

[deleted393595]

I know that this varies on the specific operation being done, but in general which surgical specialty takes the best fine motor skills/hand dexterity?

Can rank them or discuss (also can include specific subspecialties within):
ENT
Neurosurgery
Plastics
Ophtho
Urology
Vascular
Urology
General surgery subspecialties
Etc

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[Frogger27]

u know u really wanted to ask which surgical subspecialty gets the most chicks.

I thought this was a more subtle way to ask...

 

[breezy1245]

DO surgeons probably have better hands than any MD surgeon because we learn OMM.

 

[libertyyne]

DO surgeons probably have better hands than any MD surgeon because we learn OMM.

is there any OMM practiced during surgery? Do DO surgeons get excited when an incision is made so they can omm right on the bone rather than on inconvenient skin?

 

[breezy1245]

is there any OMM practiced during surgery? Do DO surgeons get excited when an incision is made so they can omm right on the bone rather than on inconvenient skin?

Well that's not what I meant. DOs learn how to feel cranial bones move during respiration because we can actually feel the CSF. That's how strong their proprioception is. So I'm just saying they probably have less operative morbidity/mortality because they make less mistakes.

 

[OrthoTraumaMD]

u know u really wanted to ask which surgical subspecialty gets the most chicks.

Ortho. No brainer. bunch of buff, athletic bros who make bank, and are generally nice and a little cocky? I dare you to find a better combo. sadly it doesn't work as well for us chick orthopods. Many guys seem to be scared of us. Which is ok. I like to keep them on their toes.

 

[username456789]

Well that's not what I meant. DOs learn how to feel cranial bones move during respiration because we can actually feel the CSF. That's how strong their proprioception is. So I'm just saying they probably have less operative morbidity/mortality because they make less mistakes.

You will get some bites on this I bet.

 

[Str3ampaw]

In my experience, ObGyns might be the only men who know where everything is

 

[breezy1245]

You will get some bites on this I bet.

Thanks! Our surgery professor is a DO and that is basically what they told us.

 

[Winged Scapula]

Well that's not what I meant. DOs learn how to feel cranial bones move during respiration because we can actually feel the CSF. That's how strong their proprioception is. So I'm just saying they probably have less operative morbidity/mortality because they make less mistakes.

Your preceptor who told you this is an idiot.

 

[breezy1245]

Your preceptor who told you this is an idiot.

I personally have felt him move my CSF in ways no other person could.

 

[Chillbo Baggins]

In my experience, ObGyns might be the only men who know where everything is

 

[Chillbo Baggins]

In my experience, ObGyns might be the only men who know where everything is

Except for the clitoris, of course. We are all still on the hunt to find where it's hidden!

?

 

[Misterioso.]

Well that's not what I meant. DOs learn how to feel cranial bones move during respiration because we can actually feel the CSF. That's how strong their proprioception is. So I'm just saying they probably have less operative morbidity/mortality because they make less mistakes.

That's some of the craziest **** I've heard in a long time.

 

[breezy1245]

That's some of the craziest **** I've heard in a long time.

You have to be enlightened first. IMO that's when they wine and dine you during orientation week and smack that what coat on you. I asked to have the "osteopathic" part of the embroidery to be in bolder and darker then the rest of the name.

 

[Rekt]

Your preceptor who told you this is an idiot.

Awh come on, it was a 0/10 trolling effort.

 

[neusu]

Well that's not what I meant. DOs learn how to feel cranial bones move during respiration because we can actually feel the CSF. That's how strong their proprioception is. So I'm just saying they probably have less operative morbidity/mortality because they make less mistakes.

CSF is on the inside, probably just the STA or your preceptor feeling their own pulse in the radial artery of the index finger.

 

[breezy1245]

Awh come on, it was a 0/10 trolling effort.

Your subtle insult is a 10/10 on the cringe scale.

A fentanyl pop is in order but I'd like to see more from you.

 

[breezy1245]

CSF is on the inside, probably just the STA or your preceptor feeling their own pulse.

I should have been more specific. It's called a fluid wave and it's the CSF moving in sacral flexion and extension. You should probably study the head in more detail if you're a neurosurgeon, I'd be worried!

 

[neusu]

I should have been more specific. It's called a fluid wave and it's the CSF moving in sacral flexion and extension. You should probably study the head in more detail if you're a neurosurgeon, I'd be worried!

I forgot you charlatans believe touchy feely voodoo to amphiarthrotic joints lets the bad humors out. I'll go back to my emperic evidence based medicine, randomized controlled trials, and standard of care. To each their own.

 

[breezy1245]

I forgot you charlatans believe touchy feely voodoo to amphiarthrotic joints lets the bad humors out. I'll go back to my emperic evidence based medicine, randomized controlled trials, and standard of care. To each their own.

We have our OWN research journal thank you very much (and yes, it doesn't have an impact factor but the editors are going to give it one that's near JAMA and NEJM because of the merger). But way to stamp out the stories of patients who have literally been healed of their illness with a simple volleyball hold to the head. It's very neurosurgical of you.

 

[Psai]

I should have been more specific. It's called a fluid wave and it's the CSF moving in sacral flexion and extension. You should probably study the head in more detail if you're a neurosurgeon, I'd be worried!

Fluid waves eh? I'll show you sacral flexion and extension

 

[breezy1245]

Fluid waves eh? I'll show you sacral flexion and extension

That'd be great but I already have something set up with @Str3ampaw . Maybe in a two weeks?

 

[neusu]

Fluid waves eh? I'll show you sacral flexion and extension

Not to be pedantic, but you can only nutate and counter-nutate the sacrum. It's fixed to the ilium.

 

[AcademicNeurosurgery]

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[YoungDoc25]

We really need to start using the "/s" to help out the geezers in here that don't read sarcasm well

Edit: Or not. It's equally entertaining IMO

 

[Psai]

Not to be pedantic, but you can only nutate and counter-nutate the sacrum. It's fixed to the ilium.

Looks like i have something i can show u

 

[bannie22]

how did neusu a 4 year member and mod get banned loL?

are ppl jealous he is practicing in teh speciality that has an overwhleming lead on getting chicks at 31%

 

[kineticdeux]

how did neusu a 4 year member and mod get banned loL?

are ppl jealous he is practicing in teh speciality that has an overwhleming lead on getting chicks at 31%

For a neurosurgeon he was pretty stupid and picked a fight with the SDN Overlord.

Got himself banned...but I"m still here!

 

[username456789]

how did neusu a 4 year member and mod get banned loL?

are ppl jealous he is practicing in teh speciality that has an overwhleming lead on getting chicks at 31%

He's not actually banned. For April fools, there was an announcement that several people would be banned indiscriminately. It was a joke.

 

[AcademicNeurosurgery]

how did neusu a 4 year member and mod get banned loL?

are ppl jealous he is practicing in teh speciality that has an overwhleming lead on getting chicks at 31%

How many times do you plan to comment on neurosurgery and getting "teh" "chicks"?

 

[bannie22]

How many times do you plan to comment on neurosurgery and getting "teh" "chicks"?[/QUOTE

Teh chicks brah

 

[Astra]

This thread is a trainwreck

 

[Frogger27]

This thread is a trainwreck

I haven't decided yet if I am proud or embarrassed to have started this thread..

 

[Astra]

I haven't decided yet if I am proud or embarrassed to have started this thread..

You should be proud. Very proud

 

[BeddingfieldMD]

For better or worse, the reality is there is a bell curve of skill in every surgical specialty.