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No offense to Pharmacists....but why are they paid so high?
htyotispharm said:With $70,000 of student loans from a state, public school (undergrad and pharmd), I don't care what career you are in, you better be getting paid.
pharmdgto said:Simple supply and demand issue. However the days of pill counting are over as Pharmacists are the most accessible healthcare provder out there. As a result, pharmacists are active in patient counseling, therapeutic interchange, drug information research, etc. This, on top of 6 years of schooling, increases the value of pharmacists. How many people would go through 6 years of hefty schooling including a year of unpaid clinical rotations to work in a job that doesn't pay well.
saltmania said:No offense to Pharmacists....but why are they paid so high?
tupac_don said:Now if pharmacy paid 50 or 60 grand a year, would people go into it, you bet your a%%.
tupac_don said:Medicine, 8 years of schooling, with 2 years of unpaid rotations, and at least 3 years of residency that is payed peanuts and yet people go to it. Now if pharmacy paid 50 or 60 grand a year, would people go into it, you bet your a%%.
konkan said:The real question is why dentists are paid so high (higher than pharmacists)?
All these folks do is scratching somebody's oral cavity for the whole day.
If a pharmacist screws up his work somebody might easily die, if a dentist screws up a filling or a cavity - what happens? PRETTY MUCH NOTHING (except some pain and discomfort).
saltmania said:No offense to Pharmacists....but why are they paid so high?
kkelloww said:Because we control the DRUGS. And he who controls the drugs controls the Universe...
what's your beef on dentists? Did you not make it into dental school or something?konkan said:The real question is why dentists are paid so high (higher than pharmacists)?
All these folks do is scratching somebody's oral cavity for the whole day.
If a pharmacist screws up his work somebody might easily die, if a dentist screws up a filling or a cavity - what happens? PRETTY MUCH NOTHING (except some pain and discomfort).
pharmdgto said:Yeah, but physicians, especially those who specialize, make 200k + a year. Don't forget that physicians are not the only ones that can get residencies. Pharm.D's can do a year or two of residencies plus fellowships as well for 30k or less a year as well. The 6 year program is just the entry level for a Pharm.D. If you want to specialize or gain your Ph.D in a particular field your up there at 8-10 years.
Also you have to remember that physicians are becoming a dime a dozen (GP's). Pretty soon they are going to have to advertise like lawyers in the phone book to gain buisiness. Not only that but alot of people unfortunitely have lost alot of faith in particular physicians so there is alot of competition going on in community practice to gain buisness. We don't have to worry about that because we work for mass chains or large hospitals who need our services, especially with the large increase of prescriptions due to a nice chunk of the population entering midlife. Also you can blame the drug compaines with direct-to-consumer adverstising that perpetuates the pharmacy business. The only way to end a patient-physician interaction unfortunitely is to put the pen to the pad of paper.
konkan said:The real question is why dentists are paid so high (higher than pharmacists)?
All these folks do is scratching somebody's oral cavity for the whole day.
If a pharmacist screws up his work somebody might easily die, if a dentist screws up a filling or a cavity - what happens? PRETTY MUCH NOTHING (except some pain and discomfort).
JordanP said:The Dental Program is much much more difficult than pharmacy. If we have to stay in school in class from 1-4 for P1, Dental 1s have to stay in class from 8-5 everyday, and the program is very demanding. Dental schools for the most part require a bachelor of science, while pharmacy schools take college sophomores.
RxRob said:CVS paid the pharmacist a day's pay for the holiday PLUS time and a half if they were working for a total of 2.5 times pay. $235 an hour for 10 hours and it was dead.
man i coulda used an extra 2 grAnd today!... and he didn't even buy lunch...coulda paid for the whole staff in 6 minutes lol....
RxRob said:CVS paid the pharmacist a day's pay for the holiday PLUS time and a half if they were working for a total of 2.5 times pay. $235 an hour for 10 hours and it was dead.
Caverject said:what's your beef on dentists? Did you not make it into dental school or something?
Do you wonder the same thing about podiatrists? I bet you never wanted to spend the rest of your life next to stinky feet either....konkan said:Just chill out. I have nothing against dentists. don't get why they're making that kind of money. That's all. Never wanted to spend my life next to a stinky mouth.
konkan said:Just chill out. I have nothing against dentists. don't get why they're making that kind of money. That's all. Never wanted to spend my life next to a stinky mouth.
And I thought my $15 an hour (time and a half versus no pay at all for part-timers) for 8 hours was good...not! Can't wait till I make the pharmacist's salaryRxRob said:CVS paid the pharmacist a day's pay for the holiday PLUS time and a half if they were working for a total of 2.5 times pay. $235 an hour for 10 hours and it was dead.
man i coulda used an extra 2 grAnd today!... and he didn't even buy lunch...coulda paid for the whole staff in 6 minutes lol....
JordanP said:The Dental Program is much much more difficult than pharmacy. If we have to stay in school in class from 1-4 for P1, Dental 1s have to stay in class from 8-5 everyday, and the program is very demanding. Dental schools for the most part require a bachelor of science, while pharmacy schools take college sophomores.
Not everyone is willing to "scratch people's oral cavities" all day long. I personally would not do it, no matter how much it pays. It is stressful for dentists, because they can really make mistakes that are not reversable when it comes to teeth, and that damage holds up in court real nice.
I do not believe that dentists are overpaid at all.
saltmania said:No offense to Pharmacists....but why are they paid so high?
It's always easy to spot people who've never had a toothache in their lives...they're the ones who talk about "some pain and discomfort" like it's nothing (and they're usually the ones who, when something does go wrong, try to make it my fault for not driving to their house tid to brush their teeth for them).konkan said:if a dentist screws up a filling or a cavity - what happens? PRETTY MUCH NOTHING (except some pain and discomfort).
Dental school is (roughly) 2+2 as you've described here. At most schools, the second year of dental school is the hardest, and honestly, for a lot of people (myself included) it sucks pretty hard. D1 tends to be more slanted toward basic science didactics with the introductory pre-clinic lab courses, while D2 is typically a *ton* of lab courses along with the more clinically oriented didactics. D3 is primarily patient care with a smattering of advanced clinical courses, and D4 is entirely clinic. In rough terms, how does that compare to the pharmacy school curriculum?JackFruitLover said:NSU P1 students usually range from 1:00PM to 5:00PM. This does not include lab, or early service learning which usually extends the day. Correct if I'm wrong, but don't pharmacy students have 3 years of classes and 1 year of rotations and dentist students have 2 years of classes and 2 years of rotations? If I'm correct, then it would make sense that the day for a D1 would be longer because they need to cram in more material in a less time.
pharmdgto said:Also you have to remember that physicians are becoming a dime a dozen (GP's). Pretty soon they are going to have to advertise like lawyers in the phone book to gain buisiness.
BrettBatchelor said:The bolded is hardly true. It is actually the opposite. GP's are on the decline, check any news source and you will see the gloom and doom forecast of primary care. Docs don't want to be paid peanuts and GP's are on the bottom of the pay scale. People are picking the lifestyle specialties more and more.
BrettBatchelor said:The bolded is hardly true. It is actually the opposite. GP's are on the decline, check any news source and you will see the gloom and doom forecast of primary care. Docs don't want to be paid peanuts and GP's are on the bottom of the pay scale. People are picking the lifestyle specialties more and more.
elmoz said:With the baby boomers aging and CVS, etc., opening on every corner, they will continue to pay us high as long as they have plenty of positions to fill. However, with so many pharmacy schools opening up, at some point in the future things will level out and our pay will probably go down somewhat.
The exact same thing is happening in the nursing field, where pay is increasing to attract nurses to jobs. Now that the pay is high, more young people are interested in going to nursing school. But eventually the shortage will dissipate and the pay will level off as well.
starsweet said:Is this really possible? How can the pay go down? I understand it staying at the same level if the shortage eventually dissipates but don't you think it's kind of unlikely the pay would go down?
KUMoose said:You should ask all the IT people about that. Several areas lost salary or held constant for several years now. So yes, if there's a flood of new pharmacists out there, it's not unreasonable to expect that salaries could potentially drop in certain areas.
It happens. Ask any number of primary care physicians.starsweet said:Is this really possible? How can the pay go down? I understand it staying at the same level if the shortage eventually dissipates but don't you think it's kind of unlikely the pay would go down?
starsweet said:Is this really possible? How can the pay go down? I understand it staying at the same level if the shortage eventually dissipates but don't you think it's kind of unlikely the pay would go down?
UOPharmD said:uncle sam takes most of it away. I get 34% taken away of state and federal. Anybody knows good state or country with low taxes.
UOPharmD said:uncle sam takes most of it away. I get 34% taken away of state and federal. Anybody knows good state or country with low taxes.
JordanP said:The Dental Program is much much more difficult than pharmacy. If we have to stay in school in class from 1-4 for P1, Dental 1s have to stay in class from 8-5 everyday, and the program is very demanding. Dental schools for the most part require a bachelor of science, while pharmacy schools take college sophomores.
No, we're not paid so "High."
RxRob said:CVS paid the pharmacist a day's pay for the holiday PLUS time and a half if they were working for a total of 2.5 times pay. $235 an hour for 10 hours and it was dead.
man i coulda used an extra 2 grAnd today!... and he didn't even buy lunch...coulda paid for the whole staff in 6 minutes lol....