Why are pre-meds/med students so arrogant about being slightly intelligent?

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Koalafied said:
GTW, so is this you then?

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definitely not.

I go out on Friday night.

Saturday - study till 3PM. Maybe go out this night or just take it easy.

Sunday - Beastmode studying.
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GandalfTheWhite said:
definitely not.

I go out on Friday night.

Saturday - study till 3PM. Maybe go out this night or just take it easy.

Sunday - Beastmode studying.
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Oh, oops! I thought you were euphemistically referring to an atlas of middle-earth and a book of spells. Well, I might've mistaken you for another GTW.😛
 
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GandalfTheWhite said:
I think people do this to portray themselves as naturally gifted or geniuses... pretending that they dont need to study as much as everybody else.
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Hmmm..... seems as though it's a rather primitive way of demonstrating value as outlined in this "system/guide."

I agree.🙂
 
Well, I believe I've made my point. This thread has been a success, unsurprising since the neurosis which plagues pre-meds makes them easy to perturb. At least those of you who were on the fence of going into medicine can now rest easy knowing it makes absolutely no difference whatsoever if you go into the field. After all, if you don't become a cardiologist another person just as intelligent and qualified will take your place and do just as good a job as you would have. Knowing this, if there are alternative, easier careers to medicine which you were previously considering please reconsider term. You're best off choosing a career based on hours/salary/enjoyment rather than delusions of altruism.

But, of course, medicine is still a great pathway to a six-figure salary and reasonable prestige. So, for those of you not intelligent to break into investment-banking (the majority, I presume), always know that medicine is likely the most lucrative and reasonable option available to you.
 
Disturbia said:
Well, I believe I've made my point. This thread has been a success, unsurprising since the neurosis which plagues pre-meds makes them easy to perturb. At least those of you who were on the fence of going into medicine can now rest easy knowing it makes absolutely no difference whatsoever if you go into the field. After all, if you don't become a cardiologist another person just as intelligent and qualified will take your place and do just as good a job as you would have. Knowing this, if there are alternative, easier careers to medicine which you were previously considering please reconsider term. You're best off choosing a career based on hours/salary/enjoyment rather than delusions of altruism.

But, of course, medicine is still a great pathway to a six-figure salary and reasonable prestige. So, for those of you not intelligent to break into investment-banking (the majority, I presume), always know that medicine is likely the most lucrative and reasonable option available to you.
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But...but...the whole reason I wanted to be a pediatrician was because I thought I was the only person on earth who could diagnose infants with jaundice!

Well now that you've forced me to come to my senses, I guess I'll find something else to do. Too bad I'm obviously much too stupid to go into finance.

Thank you for this brutal but necessary wake up call, Disturbia. You're as wise as you are humble.
 
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freakingoutabit said:
But...but...the whole reason I wanted to be a pediatrician was because I thought I was the only person on earth who could diagnose infants with jaundice!

Well now that you've forced me to come to my senses, I guess I'll find something else to do. Too bad I'm obviously much too stupid to go into finance.

Thank you for this brutal but necessary wake up call, Disturbia. You're as wise as you are humble.
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Sorry to have offended you. But due to outrageously pretentious threads such as this:

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=1020360

It was absolutely necessary for me to create this thread.
 
Disturbia said:
Well, I believe I've made my point. This thread has been a success, unsurprising since the neurosis which plagues pre-meds makes them easy to perturb. At least those of you who were on the fence of going into medicine can now rest easy knowing it makes absolutely no difference whatsoever if you go into the field. After all, if you don't become a cardiologist another person just as intelligent and qualified will take your place and do just as good a job as you would have. Knowing this, if there are alternative, easier careers to medicine which you were previously considering please reconsider term. You're best off choosing a career based on hours/salary/enjoyment rather than delusions of altruism.

But, of course, medicine is still a great pathway to a six-figure salary and reasonable prestige. So, for those of you not intelligent to break into investment-banking (the majority, I presume), always know that medicine is likely the most lucrative and reasonable option available to you.
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Literally the only point you made that didn't get laughed down was the point that many premeds are arrogant.
 
Disturbia said:
Sorry to have offended you. But due to outrageously pretentious threads such as this:

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=1020360

It was absolutely necessary for me to create this thread.
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"absolutely necessary" :roflcopter:
Also, I think the take-home message from that thread is less "this person is pretentious" and more "this person is unrealistically pessimistic and perhaps a little depressed". If you read that thread and feel angry towards the person who is spinning their wheels in a pit of self-misery, I'm far more concerned about your arrogance and lack of empathy than theirs.

freakingoutabit said:
Understood! This forum is full of nauseatingly pretentious threads, like this one: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=1029670
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👍👍👍
 
Disturbia said:
Well, I believe I've made my point. This thread has been a success, unsurprising since the neurosis which plagues pre-meds makes them easy to perturb. At least those of you who were on the fence of going into medicine can now rest easy knowing it makes absolutely no difference whatsoever if you go into the field. After all, if you don't become a cardiologist another person just as intelligent and qualified will take your place and do just as good a job as you would have. Knowing this, if there are alternative, easier careers to medicine which you were previously considering please reconsider term. You're best off choosing a career based on hours/salary/enjoyment rather than delusions of altruism.

But, of course, medicine is still a great pathway to a six-figure salary and reasonable prestige. So, for those of you not intelligent to break into investment-banking (the majority, I presume), always know that medicine is likely the most lucrative and reasonable option available to you.
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Disturbia said:
Sorry to have offended you. But due to outrageously pretentious threads such as this:

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=1020360

It was absolutely necessary for me to create this thread.
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:corny:
 
Disturbia said:
I'm currently an undergraduate at the University of California and many of the pre-med students I've come across are horrendously arrogant. They make jokes about the business majors being stupid and the liberal arts majors wasting their time. They carry the most arrogant expressions and often treat other students as dirt. They always complain about how much time they have to spend studying for their courses and are sure to carry their organic chemistry textbook around in their hand rather than their backpack so everyone can see they're pre-med.

I'm not really sure how they've come to be so arrogant, though. If they were really intelligent, wouldn't they be aiming for a PhD in quantitative finance at Yale where they would set themselves up for a career on Wall Street? But of course, none of these mediocre students have nearly the quantitative skills to make it in high finance. These aren't kids with perfect SAT scores or photographic memories we're dealing with. These are you just your average joe-bloe biology majors who thinks that getting an A- in organic chemistry at podunk state university warrants a sense of superiority over everyone else. Does anyone else find this odd? After all, with over 140 med-schools in the country, getting into one really can't be all that difficult, so where does this sense of superiority come from?
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I don't think medical students are smart. Sure there are some that are but in general everyone is average. It doesn't take a lot of intelligence to become a physician. All you need is average intelligence with hard work.

I have run into medical students that are arrogant but I don't even waste my time with that. As far as premeds being arrogant haha what a joke. Most premeds are below average in intelligence. I remember my physics and organic chemistry classes where the class average was 35-40 % lol wtf?

Either way man just ignore people like that. They are not worth your time.
 
"A true genius admits that he/she knows nothing." ― Albert Einstein
 
Disturbia said:
Well, I believe I've made my point. This thread has been a success, unsurprising since the neurosis which plagues pre-meds makes them easy to perturb. At least those of you who were on the fence of going into medicine can now rest easy knowing it makes absolutely no difference whatsoever if you go into the field. After all, if you don't become a cardiologist another person just as intelligent and qualified will take your place and do just as good a job as you would have. Knowing this, if there are alternative, easier careers to medicine which you were previously considering please reconsider term. You're best off choosing a career based on hours/salary/enjoyment rather than delusions of altruism.

But, of course, medicine is still a great pathway to a six-figure salary and reasonable prestige. So, for those of you not intelligent to break into investment-banking (the majority, I presume), always know that medicine is likely the most lucrative and reasonable option available to you.
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Why do you worship investment bankers?
 
chillaxbro said:
The pre-med curriculum isn't even hard
Most pre-meds are biology majors which require no thinking at all. It's just straight up memorization (a lot like medicine). A monkey can do that
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:bullcrap: Did you go to the University of Phoenix or something? I am a honors Biology major with a minor in Chemistry. It is far more complex then just memorization. It requires strong critical thinking, and lots or math background. Genetics for instance. Memorization will do you nothing.
 
why is investment banking so hard to break into/require higher intelligence? lol it sounds easy, sit behind a desk in a suit crunching numbers.
 
Riseupttc said:
:bullcrap: Did you go to the University of Phoenix or something? I am a honors Biology major with a minor in Chemistry. It is far more complex then just memorization. It requires strong critical thinking, and lots or math background. Genetics for instance. Memorization will do you nothing.
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You don't need a math background to understand that (p+q)^2=1.
 
circulus vitios said:
You don't need a math background to understand that (p+q)^2=1.
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Yeah...critical thinking is the goal, and the quickest way to learn everything, but brute memorization will get you where you need to go if you put in the work.
 
pre med 2014 said:
why is investment banking so hard to break into/require higher intelligence? lol it sounds easy, sit behind a desk in a suit crunching numbers.
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It's all about who you know that's why it's almost impossible to break into without strong ties.
 
mehc012 said:
Yeah...critical thinking is the goal, and the quickest way to learn everything, but brute memorization will get you where you need to go if you put in the work.
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But then it can apply to any field though, not only bio.
I know numerous people who brute-forced their way through the physics prereqs by just learning every possible variation of every exercise by heart and rehashing them on the exam. It does work.

With some motivation you could probably do it through a whole physics major with minimal to moderate success.
 
sinombre said:
I hope this thread keeps going.
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Why? You enjoy hearing how insignificant your entire life is? I was going to end it with that last post but I'm having too much fun to quit.

SunsFun said:
Why do you worship investment bankers?
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I don't. I simply use it as an adequate example of a career more competitive and lucrative than medicine, for which the applicants overall are of a much higher pedigree. The majority of people who enter medicine do so for the money. You may argue, but it cannot be coincidence that the most competitive specialties in medicine also tend to be the most lucrative. Just like janitors and assembly line workers settled with the most profitable careers their low IQs would allow, doctors too settle on both distinct specialties and medicine as a whole based on what their performance and intelligence levels permit. I'm sure anyone in this thread would prefer making millions in finance to a career in medicine. But, since you lack the quantitative skills necessary, you must settle.

On that note, could someone bring this thread to the attention of the surgeons? I have met many arrogant surgeons in my day, which I find odd considering surgeons are really nothing more than highly trained monkeys who have wasted the first half of their lives in training.
 
Disturbia said:
On that note, could someone bring this thread to the attention of the surgeons? I have met many arrogant surgeons in my day, which I find odd considering surgeons are really nothing more than highly trained monkeys who have wasted the first half of their lives in training.
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I just emailed all of them. They should be here any minute.
 
Disturbia said:
Why? You enjoy hearing how insignificant your entire life is? I was going to end it with that last post but I'm having too much fun to quit.



I don't. I simply use it as an adequate example of a career more competitive and lucrative than medicine, for which the applicants overall are of a much higher pedigree. The majority of people who enter medicine do so for the money. You may argue, but it cannot be coincidence that the most competitive specialties in medicine also tend to be the most lucrative. Just like janitors and assembly line workers settled with the most profitable careers their low IQs would allow, doctors too settle on both distinct specialties and medicine as a whole based on what their performance and intelligence levels permit. I'm sure anyone in this thread would prefer making millions in finance to a career in medicine. But, since you lack the quantitative skills necessary, you must settle.

On that note, could someone bring this thread to the attention of the surgeons? I have met many arrogant surgeons in my day, which I find odd considering surgeons are really nothing more than highly trained monkeys who have wasted the first half of their lives in training.
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What do you think investment bankers do? How do you think they get their foot in the door in the first place?
 
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