Why does the medical school social scene suck?

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Can’t answer the long term part, but I’m very type B and a non-partier, and I have found the folks I get along with. It also might depend on the school because I haven’t noticed any of the super cliquey behavior mentioned above. People seem to go out of their way to try to include everyone at my school. I actually kind of feel bad having to constantly turn down invites.
Same. My school is in upstate NY so we have a lot of highly social people from around the Tri-state/NYC area. This leads to everyone having a lot of wealth and a plethora of opportunities for extra-curricular activities such as Jersey shore, Long Island beaches, NYC bars, etc.

Perhaps the more rural schools out west are more isolated and therefore those students feel like they don't have opportunities outside of their classmates? Idk. It's so hard to compare schools when everyone has only gone to one.
 
I’d dismiss this as low-quality trolling, but this sadly isn’t the first time you’ve gone onto a current medical student’s venting thread just to bash them. Seems like projection to me, honestly. Are they being nice to you in residency? Everything going all right?
It isn't trolling or bashing. It is an honest, albeit blunt, way of addressing a common refrain of certain holier than thou types that enter medical school and believe that they're better than their peers. Unless you have a particularly terrible class, chances are that they are that they are a fairly sociable bunch that gets along with people fairly well. Medical students tend to be decently socially adept in general when I come across them, and the outliers that have difficulty socializing tend to have a reputation that precedes them. So I stand by my statement that when you're in a fairly social group and have difficulty with a scene that you believe to be beneath you, perhaps it is not the scene itself, but rather you, that is the problem.
 
I'm not going to waste time trying to explain to a psychiatry resident why labeling people as "problems" isn't constructive or thoughtful.

Also, I'm not saying that I'm "better" than my peers. I'm saying that my personality and mindset seem incompatible with those that I've found to be prevalent in my class. Hell, a part of me wishes that I could derive enjoyment from partying all the time or continually having neurotic dialogues about grades. For better or for worse, that's not the sort of person I am at this stage of my life.

Obviously I'm struggling to adjust to the social climate at my med school, and this situation serves as a problem for me. I wouldn't dismiss the possibility that my cynical mindset/somewhat introverted nature may partially contribute to the problem. That being said, you're not adding anything to the discussion by curtly describing me as "the problem." Instead of offering substantive feedback, you're just being a jerk for no good reason.

My recommendation is if you don’t enjoy them then don’t hangout. We had quite a few that kept to themselves. You can find other things to do to occupy your free time. WoW classic drops in 27 hours just saying
 
That sucks. Doesn't sound anything like my experience.
 
The types you might enjoy hanging out with are likely not the type to initiate plans, so maybe they need someone to start up a friend group through hosting game/movie nights, etc. So you could try that, I'm sure people would appreciate it.

Though I'd look into your attitude and preconceptions about your classmates first. I love almost everyone in my class and the few people I know who don't get along with anyone are simply judgmental and have an attitude toward everyone else. Not saying that's you, but always know it could just be you.
 
MS1 here.

A large fraction of my classmates are type-A gunners who are always on edge and take themselves extremely seriously all the time. Another large fraction is pretty much the exact opposite: they constantly party and drink, presumably trying to relive their college golden years. Last week, they had a big beer-drinking contest with different "obstacle courses"; they're pretty much playing the roles of Will Ferrell and Vince Vaughn in Old School.

There's also endless gossiping and judging, especially within the female cliques. It's honestly sickening to overhear them making fun of other classmates... giggling because they think somebody looks ugly, said something stupid in a discussion session, etc.

The classmates I've enjoyed interacting with the most have generally been older, "non-traditional" students; many of them are level-headed and mature, and they're usually able to talk about things other than school and beer. I've had several chances to study with these folks, and that's been great. Unfortunately, they tend to socially distance themselves from the rest of the class, because they have enough stuff going on outside of school (spouses, kids, etc.).

Why does medical school have so many uptight try-hards and obnoxious party-goers, with so few people in between the two extremes? Is my school unique in this regard?
This was my experience as well. Eventually I did find people like me but it definitely took time, trial and error.
The gossiping and judging..omg..fell in w/ a clique like this Day 1. They realized I'm not that way and excluded me. I felt broken at the time but now see it was for the better.
I then fell in with a group who pressurized me to get drunk and have sex (literally)-which I refused.
Broke away from them too.
It took time but I finally found good friends.
 
This was my experience as well. Eventually I did find people like me but it definitely took time, trial and error.
The gossiping and judging..omg..fell in w/ a clique like this Day 1. They realized I'm not that way and excluded me. I felt broken at the time but now see it was for the better.
I then fell in with a group who pressurized me to get drunk and have sex (literally)-which I refused.
Broke away from them too.
It took time but I finally found good friends.
I know you're past that now but that's literal sexual assault. They need to be reported because they're predators.
 
This was my experience as well. Eventually I did find people like me but it definitely took time, trial and error.
The gossiping and judging..omg..fell in w/ a clique like this Day 1. They realized I'm not that way and excluded me. I felt broken at the time but now see it was for the better.
I then fell in with a group who pressurized me to get drunk and have sex (literally)-which I refused.
Broke away from them too.
It took time but I finally found good friends.
that is so sad and WRONG! sorry to hear
 
Your peers at one place are really left to chance. I think you may just need an adjustmemt period.
 
The medical school social scene does kinda suck. But that's ok. Everyone is scared sh**less and running around like a chicken with their heads cut off. Except they don't want you to know they are scared. So they do all the sh**y attitudes that others have mentioned here. That's ok. We have all done it even if you think you haven't. I am friends with a couple non trads who were in the marines and navy seals. Both said this was the most stressful time of their lives. Everyone saying that things are great and they love partying and never studying are just insecure and trying to fake it.

But that's ok. Maybe chuckle to yourself inside and realize it's all a front. Be the weird but cool quiet kid in the corner. When people ask me about medical school I say it's probably one of the better times of my life. Yeah it's stressful as hell and I only have a couple friends but at the end of the day I get to pursue my hobbies, study some interesting things, have gotten on top of my health and fitness routine, and even had time to make trips to see college friends. The social scene is what you make of it. Plenty of drama to go around but not everyone is like that. You just won't be part of the "cool" group if you don't partake. but who cares.
 
Medical School = High School with legal drinking and no curfew.

You will see the same faces over and over again for four years. Almost all gossip will be shared and circulated about the smallest things, cliques will be formed. As you saw, you have the partiers, the mean girls, the gunners, nerds, gamers, etc.

A good portion will see getting into medical a license to party, that they've been bottled up for so long working hard to get into medical school it's an eruption of pent up anxiety.

Which is why as pointed out, the older non-trad married folks are often the calmest folks out there to hang out with.

Like high school, you will have to find your clique. Just remember, you may end up seeing some of these people for a heck of a lot longer than four years so don't burn bridges. While it's technically "school," you are at the professional level and will be remembered as such.
 
My school's social scene is pretty good. People go out pretty much every weekend and some weekday nights. With sports seasons starting soon I'm sure more people will do things for that as well.
 
Wow I am so sorry you're having this experience- mine has been the total opposite. Very small class, very close. Everyone wants each other to do well but we all make time for fun.
 
Agree that so far the people I am clicking the best with are the nontrads. It definitely feels like high school though and now that we're really getting into the swing of things (to borrow a quote), I'm straight up not having a good time. Looks like it'll take a while to find my people but for now I'm keeping my head down and studying like crazy
 
I know you're past that now but that's literal sexual assault. They need to be reported because they're predators.

Thanks so much for the sympathy. They pressurized me, even stated their intentions and got angry when I refused-but since I didn't actually get drunk or physically forced I didn't think it was something I could report. But I do avoid them.
 
Thanks so much for the sympathy. They pressurized me, even stated their intentions and got angry when I refused-but since I didn't actually get drunk or physically forced I didn't think it was something I could report. But I do avoid them.

It’s sexual harassment at the very least and unprofessional behavior. You could have reported it but no one should give you **** for not reporting it. It’s your decision.
 
MS1 here.

A large fraction of my classmates are type-A gunners who are always on edge and take themselves extremely seriously all the time. Another large fraction is pretty much the exact opposite: they constantly party and drink, presumably trying to relive their college golden years. Last week, they had a big beer-drinking contest with different "obstacle courses"; they're pretty much playing the roles of Will Ferrell and Vince Vaughn in Old School.

There's also endless gossiping and judging, especially within the female cliques. It's honestly sickening to overhear them making fun of other classmates... giggling because they think somebody looks ugly, said something stupid in a discussion session, etc.

The classmates I've enjoyed interacting with the most have generally been older, "non-traditional" students; many of them are level-headed and mature, and they're usually able to talk about things other than school and beer. I've had several chances to study with these folks, and that's been great. Unfortunately, they tend to socially distance themselves from the rest of the class, because they have enough stuff going on outside of school (spouses, kids, etc.).

Why does medical school have so many uptight try-hards and obnoxious party-goers, with so few people in between the two extremes? Is my school unique in this regard?
Simple remedy; keep your head down, study, do well on boards, have every door open to any specialty you want, match into said specialty and never look back. All you really need is 2-4 good friends in med school to keep you sane and hang out with. For the neurotic gunners; it shouldn't concern you and don't surround yourself with toxic people. For the people that party...let them, while they party you go and get smart and just do you. You are there to work hard not please your class mates.
 
OP you have to understand that the majority of the people that made it to medical school weren’t necessarily the super socialable people back in college. Plus I feel like a lot of people either have their own friends from ugrad or hang out with their SO.
 
OP you have to understand that the majority of the people that made it to medical school weren’t necessarily the super socialable people back in college. Plus I feel like a lot of people either have their own friends from ugrad or hang out with their SO.

Hasn’t been the case in my experience. Most everyone is social. Some OCD, some narcissism, and some gunner personalities in my class but mostly well-adjusted and social individuals. People mainly socialize through parties, breweries, etc, so I can see how people might feel left out if they don’t enjoy parties or drinking.
 
The social scene in medical school definitely revolves around alcohol. Can be pretty hard to find people to do non-alcohol related activities with (e.g. movies, museums, restaurants, etc), especially if you're shy. I've always been anxious about initiating plans with people, so this may be more of a me-problem than a general difficulty in medical school that many students face.
 
The social scene in medical school definitely revolves around alcohol. Can be pretty hard to find people to do non-alcohol related activities with (e.g. movies, museums, restaurants, etc), especially if you're shy. I've always been anxious about initiating plans with people, so this may be more of a me-problem than a general difficulty in medical school that many students face.
Why do you think this is?
 
Med school = high school. Get used to it.

The above is why I'm an advocate of real-world experiences prior to med school. I find that kids who go straight through with maybe a part time job here and there are, in general, a lot less mature and where this becomes truly apparent is on clinicals. Not to say there aren't outstanding 23-year-old MS 3s with no life experiences (my favorite MS3 when I was a resident was in this category and she did a fantastic job), but usually, I can tell the difference between those who've had to report to a job before and those who've gone straight through school.
 
Med school = high school. Get used to it.

The above is why I'm an advocate of real-world experiences prior to med school. I find that kids who go straight through with maybe a part time job here and there are, in general, a lot less mature and where this becomes truly apparent is on clinicals. Not to say there aren't outstanding 23-year-old MS 3s with no life experiences (my favorite MS3 when I was a resident was in this category and she did a fantastic job), but usually, I can tell the difference between those who've had to report to a job before and those who've gone straight through school.
What type of differences on the wards specifically?
 
What type of differences on the wards specifically?

Just in general (and this does NOT apply to all students who went straight through), it's like an imposition on them that they have to be there. If you ask them to do anything (and I don't give them scut), it's like you've killed their cat. Some of them are late with no explanation. One guy scheduled a doctor's appointment in the middle of the day and never told me. I returned from a family meeting and no one knew where he was. I texted him and he told me he had a doctor's appointment and that he tried to tell me, but I was at the family meeting. WTF? My colleague had a student who showed up on the inpatient unit after the attending the first two days of the rotation. My colleague told her she should really be there earlier and the student said that since she's still a student, she was under the impression she'd have to be there the same hours as school -- 8-5 (and she was supposedly showing up at 8:10 anyway). My colleague told her that isn't how it works and she complained to her school, who backed up my colleague. I had another student whose friend was also an MS 3. The friend was on an outpatient rotation in which it was just her and the attending and the attending didn't have any patients after mid-morning, so he dismissed her. So most people would either go home to study or just chill out. But in this case, my MS 3 invited her friend to come join us for the day on the inpatient unit (in a totally different specialty) without asking me and the two of them literally spent the day gossiping and venting about being an MS 3 the whole day. My student saw only 3 patients that day and wrote only one note before she and the friend asked if they could take off.

They just don't treat it like a job. I've also seen some amazing students, including ones with no work experience, but I can't think of a single "older" student who did any of the things I listed above. Every time I've had a problem with an MS 3, it's been a traditional, straight-through person without any real life work experience.
 
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Just in general (and this does NOT apply to all students who went straight through), it's like an imposition on them that they have to be there. If you ask them to do anything (and I don't give them scut), it's like you've killed their cat. Some of them are late with no explanation. One guy scheduled a doctor's appointment in the middle of the day and never told me. I returned from a family meeting and no one knew where he was. I texted him and he told me he had a doctor's appointment and that he tried to tell me, but I was at the family meeting. WTF? My colleague had a student who showed up on the inpatient unit after the attending the first two days of the rotation. My colleague told her she should really be there earlier and the student said that since she's still a student, she was under the impression she'd have to be there the same hours as school -- 8-5 (and she was supposedly showing up at 8:10 anyway). My colleague told her that isn't how it works and she complained to her school, who backed up my colleague. I had another student whose friend was also an MS 3. The friend was on an outpatient rotation in which it was just her and the attending and the attending didn't have any patients after mid-morning, so he dismissed her. So most people would either go home to study or just chill out. But in this case, my MS 3 invited her friend to come join us for the day on the inpatient unit (in a totally different specialty) without asking me and the two of them literally spent the day gossiping and venting about being an MS 3 the whole day. My student saw only 3 patients that day and wrote only one note before she and the friend asked if they could take off.

They just don't treat it like a job. I've also seen some amazing students, including ones with no work experience, but I can't think of a single "older" student who did any of the things I listed above. Every time I've had a problem with an MS 3, it's been a traditional, straight-through person without any real life work experience.

Lawd.
 
Most medical schools have over one hundred students per class. Adjustment is hard- I had a rough start to MS1 and I feel for you. But it’s short-sighted to think that absolutely none of those hundred plus people have anything in common with you. But if you come off as thinking you are different/better than everyone, it’s going to be hard to find those potential friends.
 
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