Why I love medicine

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Hi everyone, I've been reading a lot of threads about people who are second-guessing themselves about going into medicine. People are worried that school loans are too high and that the lifestyle is too stressful. But I feel like there are so many reasons why medicine is still the greatest career on earth. Why do you love medicine?

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I like being stressed. I bitch about it sometimes (read: all the time) but deep down I know I love it a lot more than being bored.

I've worked jobs where I was directly helping people and jobs where I wasn't. I enjoyed the ones where I looked somebody in the face and did them a service a lot more than the ones where I was on an assembly line.

Also--chicks, money, power, and chicks.
 
Hi everyone, I've been reading a lot of threads about people who are second-guessing themselves about going into medicine. People are worried that school loans are too high and that the lifestyle is too stressful. But I feel like there are so many reasons why medicine is still the greatest career on earth. Why do you love medicine?

I loved medical school and am actually kinda depressed that I'm already an M4. Time flies by. Honestly I think people like to complain regardless of what they are doing. For me I truly enjoyed learning medicine. I like the fact that I know so much about the human body now. Yea school loans suck, but even with a pcp salary you should be able to comfortably pay them back eventually. Lifestyle, at least in medical school has not been bad at all. Only time I felt I was really overworked was on my surgery rotation, but even that was very manageable. Working with patients has been great, although i kinda feel bad since I'm wasting their time majority of the time since whatever I am doing is not gonna have any effect on their well-being. Respect is huge, in social gatherings people are definitely impressed when you tell them that you are about to be a doctor. Career stability is huge, people out there would cut off their right arm to have a stable job paying 200k/year for the rest of their lives. If I could go back in time I would apply again in a heartbeat. And honestly I am pretty surprised how many of my classmates say that they would not do it again.
 
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Most people enjoy the medicine.

It's the government, regulations, insurance companies, hospital CEOs, adminstration, obamacare, etc. that get people down.
 
Most people enjoy the medicine.

It's the government, regulations, insurance companies, hospital CEOs, adminstration, obamacare, etc. that get people down.

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It's the government, regulations, insurance companies, hospital CEOs, adminstration, obamacare, etc. that get people down.

You definitely have a point, but aren't all those things just part of medicine? It's a mixed bag for sure, but I think even the worst parts about being a doctor are more than outweighed by the good parts. I guess I am asking people to talk about moments in their medical career that have made all the hard work and stress worth it.
 
It's great. I've enjoyed learning it and continuing to learn it. I get to hear people's stories, be with them when they are born and when they die and when they get a new chance at life, and fix up living human guts and help solve people's problems sometimes and care about them and comfort them when I can't. When I'm on and doing my thing, it is endlessly engaging, learning and thinking and trying and being with people, and hours pass like minutes. It's an honor and a privilege, all bologna and red tape aside. Don't let the bastards grind you down.
 
I like talking to patients. I've always enjoyed talking to all different kinds of people, and you see a good mix of folks as a doctor (granted, I'm going into OB/GYN so I'll have to get my sports talk elsewhere for the most part).
 
I like working with patients. I like having a positive effect on peoples' lives. I enjoy performing interventions and giving medicines that can maintain health or cure disease.

I like being in a profession where the mainstay of my practice doesn't involve routine deceit (read: malpractice law) or gambling with other peoples' fortunes (investment banking). I like the stability of the field overall in that regardless of the specialty someone, somewhere is going to need a doctor.

Do we moan and whine a lot? Sure we do. It's a stressful profession which involves a lot of sacrifice. You give up a lot of your 20s. You have stresses in your marital/personal life. You have to deal with a lot of crap from all sides. But ultimately, I enjoy it. You'll see a lot more negativity on SDN because the people who are the least satisfied tend to be the loudest, but don't feel that it represents the majority.
 
I like working with patients. I like having a positive effect on peoples' lives. I enjoy performing interventions and giving medicines that can maintain health or cure disease.

I like being in a profession where the mainstay of my practice doesn't involve routine deceit (read: malpractice law) or gambling with other peoples' fortunes (investment banking). I like the stability of the field overall in that regardless of the specialty someone, somewhere is going to need a doctor.

Do we moan and whine a lot? Sure we do. It's a stressful profession which involves a lot of sacrifice. You give up a lot of your 20s. You have stresses in your marital/personal life. You have to deal with a lot of crap from all sides. But ultimately, I enjoy it. You'll see a lot more negativity on SDN because the people who are the least satisfied tend to be the loudest, but don't feel that it represents the majority.

Really well said.
 
I sometimes waffle on whether pre-medical students should be banned from discussions on this forum, but they absolutely should be banned on discussing what they love about being a doctor.

The above poster's analysis is ludicrous. It's so far off the mark it's not even wrong.

I suddenly have a lot more sympathy for the people on the admission committees who have to read thousands of similarly nauseatingly naive personal statements.
 
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I've lost a lot of passion for medicine, and i'm not even a pre med. I talk more abut poltics and economics. But something just draws me to medicine. The science is stimulating, you having to know physiology, neuroscience and biology as well as how to treat a sick man is knowledge that can fill your brain for fifty lifetimes. Science is actually applied to make people cheat death. Medicine is life, it is pleasure, it is misery all in one day. If you work in a ward, some are discharged and others die. Some days we feel like there is no goo din humanity, other days we feel optimistic. However, whether a patient dies on you or succeeds and lives, is your responsibility. And a doctor has to accept the inability to know and fix everything. its a big stimulating world of new words and ideas that help people live healthier better lives. My main interest for medicine came from a psychiatrists office, and we would talk on how we know so little and yet we can do so much. Its only been 60 years since Chlorozapine hit the market. And yet, psychiatry (arguable my favorite and least scientific specialty) has been able to do so much and developed so rapidly in the last half-century that ill people can now live normal lives and feel and love. This ability to make a person's life better: whether to fix his legs or to smoothen his road to death, it may dehumanize your from the world, but ultimately make you richer on the inside. I'd rather be an unhappy, overworked, underpaid internist who commits suicide at 50 rather than a well paid, happy lawyer or businessman.

Wat.

There are millions of well-off, happy internists in the world...
 
I'll let you know when, if ever, I get to practice it 🙂
 
I sometimes waffle on whether pre-medical students should be banned from discussions on this forum, but they absolutely should be banned on discussing what they love about being a doctor.

The above poster's analysis is ludicrous. It's so far off the mark it's not even wrong.

I suddenly have a lot more sympathy for the people on the admission committees who have to read thousands of similarly nauseatingly naive personal statements.
how do i delete posts?
 
just got done with head and neck. needless to say this is a love/hate relationship. but no, i like saying words like salpingopharyngeal, pterygoid hamulus, and levator labii superioris alaque nasi.
 
just got done with head and neck. needless to say this is a love/hate relationship. but no, i like saying words like salpingopharyngeal, pterygoid hamulus, and levator labii superioris alaque nasi.
that's a shame, you'll probably never say them again after you get out of med 1 anatomy. 😛

better find a new reason to like medicine, my friend. 😉
 
that's a shame, you'll probably never say them again after you get out of med 1 anatomy. 😛

better find a new reason to like medicine, my friend. 😉

you're an idiot if you think the only reason i like medicine is because i learned a couple big words. now we are on arm, and i learned ansa pectoralis, so KMA.
 
I really enjoy being hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt, having no free time, and never seeing my family. I am also looking forward to starting to earn a salary by the time I'm in my early 30's, people thinking I'm a rich snobby doctor, continuing to have no time for family, and getting sued.
 
you're an idiot if you think the only reason i like medicine is because i learned a couple big words. now we are on arm, and i learned ansa pectoralis, so KMA.

Hulk like anatomy.
 
We all do it for that ego-stroking sensation you get when people call you Doc and gaze up to you with mad respect.
 
I really enjoy being hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt, having no free time, and never seeing my family. I am also looking forward to starting to earn a salary by the time I'm in my early 30's, people thinking I'm a rich snobby doctor, continuing to have no time for family, and getting sued.

I would much rather be the guy who owns a decent salary from his 30s onwards than the guy unable to keep down anything short of a 50k per year job while supporting a family (which is a number of college friends of mine are doing).

Everyone REALLY does seem to think the grass is greener on the other side, don't they?
 
We all do it for that ego-stroking sensation you get when people call you Doc and gaze up to you with mad respect.

I'm only second year and I've started to notice that people really do act differently. My ego continues to be unaffected.

Personally I don't get it - I'm more disappointed that physicists, presidents, popes are just normal people who usually suck. I get surprised when people act like doctor is a thing.

Tip: Don't study on flights; don't tell taxi drivers you're in med school. People WILL ask you for medical advice, despite already seeing 3 specialists. It's insane.
 
Pfft. I was doing EK questions during lunch break at work while prepping during the summer. An elderly couple asked me what I was studying for. They then asked me for advice on macular degeneration.

I agree with the sentiment that most physicians/scientists etc. are disappointingly mediocre people.

As to why medicine: I didn't know what else to do. Medicine seemed to be as good as anything else. Now that I'm here, I find that I'm happy - most of the time.
 
I really enjoy being hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt, having no free time, and never seeing my family. I am also looking forward to starting to earn a salary by the time I'm in my early 30's, people thinking I'm a rich snobby doctor, continuing to have no time for family, and getting sued.

Yeah man it's rough working 60 hours a week while pulling down more than four times the median household income in exchange for a $200-300k investment.

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son, you have no idea what you're talking about

There are a lot of jobs out there that have ****tier hours for much ****tier pay. Go spend a summer on an oil rig or in a factory, then picture doing that for the rest of your life. I can't wait to quit my godawful 7 day swing shift manual labor job, and I look forward to studying my balls off next summer and working 60 hour weeks in a hospital. Quit being so ****ing spoiled.
 
son, you have no idea what you're talking about

We also tend to overblow our problems, even though he's a bit off the mark.

People work in way crappier conditions and hours for less pay than we do and we tend to forget that.
 
There are a lot of jobs out there that have ****tier hours for much ****tier pay. Go spend a summer on an oil rig or in a factory, then picture doing that for the rest of your life. I can't wait to quit my godawful 7 day swing shift manual labor job, and I look forward to studying my balls off next summer and working 60 hour weeks in a hospital. Quit being so ****ing spoiled.

and just how much time have you spent on an oil rig or in a hospital
 
We also tend to overblow our problems, even though he's a bit off the mark.

People work in way crappier conditions and hours for less pay than we do and we tend to forget that.

True, but you also don't need to pay and train for 11-16 years before you do any of those jobs. What we do is a big sacrifice and I don't think we should forget that either.
 
and just how much time have you spent on an oil rig or in a hospital

:laugh: you work in a climate controlled hospital. my first day on the job, i about blacked out from the heat. i don't need to time travel 4 years down the road to tell you how good you've got it.

look, i'm not diminishing your hard work. i'm not saying it's easy -- i'm sure i'll bitch and whine when i'm in your shoes -- but i am saying that you've got a very good deal. med school is expensive and time consuming, but it's an investment for a highly lucrative future. the vast majority of doctors couldn't recreate their financial success outside of medicine, no matter how hard they tried.
 
You guys don't think you could a reasonable salary outside of medicine? Even if you worked just as hard?

I am grateful to be in medical school and I know I will be financially well off but I don't think it's all it's cracked up to be either. It's a lot of time and money invested so you can make 150k as a family doc. Meanwhile people are making that by starting businesses and/or just a bachelor's.

I also don't get the fascination with doctors. There are other professions that I think would be a hell of a lot harder intellectually. All it takes is guts to lay down $$ up front and dedication. Don't really need to be very smart. Everything is also spoon fed to us. In this disease you get these symptoms. No research required.
 
You guys don't think you could a reasonable salary outside of medicine? Even if you worked just as hard?

I am grateful to be in medical school and I know I will be financially well off but I don't think it's all it's cracked up to be either. It's a lot of time and money invested so you can make 150k as a family doc. Meanwhile people are making that by starting businesses and/or just a bachelor's.

I also don't get the fascination with doctors. There are other professions that I think would be a hell of a lot harder intellectually. All it takes is guts to lay down $$ up front and dedication. Don't really need to be very smart. Everything is also spoon fed to us. In this disease you get these symptoms. No research required.

Yeah, never mind that the vast majority of businesses fail and the vast majority of bachelors holders don't make anywhere near $150k. But I guess our ability to get a 3.6 GPA in biology and score 80th percentile on some standardized tests makes us titans of industry or something.
 
Yeah, never mind that the vast majority of businesses fail and the vast majority of bachelors holders don't make anywhere near $150k. But I guess our ability to get a 3.6 GPA in biology and score 80th percentile on some standardized tests makes us titans of industry or something.

I agree with most of what you're saying, but it's really not always about wanting to make more money when doctors complain and say they wish they had done something else. That's the impression I get, at least.
 
:laugh: you work in a climate controlled hospital. my first day on the job, i about blacked out from the heat. i don't need to time travel 4 years down the road to tell you how good you've got it.

look, i'm not diminishing your hard work. i'm not saying it's easy -- i'm sure i'll bitch and whine when i'm in your shoes -- but i am saying that you've got a very good deal. med school is expensive and time consuming, but it's an investment for a highly lucrative future. the vast majority of doctors couldn't recreate their financial success outside of medicine, no matter how hard they tried.

i didn't "get" anything
i earned my way here
getting a 3.7 and a 32 on the mcat or whatever it is isn't easy. we just make it seem like it is. how many people do you know started at the beginning of college as premed and made it all the way through? after that, they have to wade through the bull**** of the admissions process and slog their way through medical school and residency. it's not rocket science but it takes years of hard work and dedication so i'd appreciate it if you didn't diminish that.

you have no idea what it's like to be a doctor. all you see is a made up number on paycheck and a white coat. there's more to being a doctor than sitting pretty with the ac on, counting cash in a benz. no one's judging you for that but don't pretend you know what it's like. also, no one forced you to do manual labor. it's something anyone can do and it doesn't give you any kind of martyr status so you can chill with that
 
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Yeah, never mind that the vast majority of businesses fail and the vast majority of bachelors holders don't make anywhere near $150k. But I guess our ability to get a 3.6 GPA in biology and score 80th percentile on some standardized tests makes us titans of industry or something.

Remember the HUGE majority of college student won't even come close to a 3.6 or would score in the 80th percentile on the MCAT. In a way, that can be seen as something unique 😛

Maybe for you, you didn't have to try hard whatsoever, or it was one huge joke, but remember, most college kids would never be able to touch a 3.0, let alone break a 3.5+. Same with the MCAT, for some, it might be easy and straightforward, for the majority of college kids, getting a 24 would seem like an amazing feat.

Also, if someone has a bachelors and expect to make 150K, they are silly, and delusional little kids. They should KNOW that a bachelor's degree isn't gonna get them that salary. That's like...basic knowledge. Maybe in a long time if they catch a nice break or something. Remember, very, very few people make six figure salaries. Which makes a lot of sense, and is reasonable. After all, not everyone is expected to make that much money.
 
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Yeah man it's rough working 60 hours a week while pulling down more than four times the median household income in exchange for a $200-300k investment.

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Agreed.

However, I think you're missing the most valuable commodity in that investment - time.
 
Ya you have to keep in mind the people willing to put in the work for med school aren't the vast majority of the people getting bachelors. So the small percent that go to medical school could have been the small percent making good money in another field.

And like others have said money is only a small part of it. I don't care to be rich I just want a comfortable life and be able to spend time with family and friends. That is just as important or more. Most fields don't require random, long hours with call and/or working on holidays, etc.
 
Ya you have to keep in mind the people willing to put in the work for med school aren't the vast majority of the people getting bachelors. So the small percent that go to medical school could have been the small percent making good money in another field.

And like others have said money is only a small part of it. I don't care to be rich I just want a comfortable life and be able to spend time with family and friends. That is just as important or more. Most fields don't require random, long hours with call and/or working on holidays, etc.

I don't know where the hell people get this fallacy that "oh I was good enough to go to med school I would CLEARLY have done very well in any other field"

The skills required for a science major and the ability to do well in a science field are incredibly different from those needed to excel in a business
 
True, but you also don't need to pay and train for 11-16 years before you do any of those jobs. What we do is a big sacrifice and I don't think we should forget that either.

Yes time is a big deal and big sacrifice. We still are better off than the vast majority of Americans and we should be aware of that. A LOT of people act like they're entitled to being reimbursed like kings when in reality we get paid based on how much we work, just like any service industry
 
I don't know where the hell people get this fallacy that "oh I was good enough to go to med school I would CLEARLY have done very well in any other field"

The skills required for a science major and the ability to do well in a science field are incredibly different from those needed to excel in a business

Well I'm in the group that thinks hard work usually gets the job done. I'm not very smart if at all. I just found something I wanted to do and put in the time. I think the vast majority of the population could get an MD if they were willing to dedicate the time/money.

That said I think if you really try and put in the effort (qualities most med students have) you can succeed in a lot of fields. Even in med school we essentially put in 12 hour days 7 days a week. If you put that time and hundreds of thousands of dollars into a business you would probably do ok. I know engineers with bachelors making six figures as well as people with high school diplomas.

I did auto detailing on the side by myself and did pretty well. I sold electronics for cars I made online and did well with that. Got into med school, got A's in almost all of my college classes, did a million random ****ty jobs and everyone was happy with my work, etc. Keep in mind I said I don't think I am talented or smart. It is all about effort and time in my eyes..

Trust me, I don't think we are special and like I said we are very lucky to be where we are. Neither of my parents were able to go to college even. Both of them lived with their mothers until recently my mom bought a very cheap house and is struggling to afford it. I don't take it for granted, but at the same time I get mad when people say I'm going to be a rich doctor and act like I'm not making sacrifices.
 
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:laugh: you work in a climate controlled hospital. my first day on the job, i about blacked out from the heat. i don't need to time travel 4 years down the road to tell you how good you've got it.

look, i'm not diminishing your hard work. i'm not saying it's easy -- i'm sure i'll bitch and whine when i'm in your shoes -- but i am saying that you've got a very good deal. med school is expensive and time consuming, but it's an investment for a highly lucrative future. the vast majority of doctors couldn't recreate their financial success outside of medicine, no matter how hard they tried.

I don't know where the hell people get this fallacy that "oh I was good enough to go to med school I would CLEARLY have done very well in any other field"

The skills required for a science major and the ability to do well in a science field are incredibly different from those needed to excel in a business

I disagree with both of these statements.

I'm a strong proponent of the philosophy that being successful at something heavily depends on work ethic. Not so much on smartness or creativity or luck. Work ethic is something that most people who get into med school have lots of. I'll be the first to admit that I'm not that smart. But I sure as heck busted my butt to get to where I am today. That's the biggest reason why I don't have trouble believing that med students and physicians can be pretty successful in other professions.
 
I disagree with both of these statements.

I'm a strong proponent of the philosophy that being successful at something heavily depends on work ethic. Not so much on smartness or creativity or luck. Work ethic is something that most people who get into med school have lots of. I'll be the first to admit that I'm not that smart. But I sure as heck busted my butt to get to where I am today. That's the biggest reason why I don't have trouble believing that med students and physicians can be pretty successful in other professions.

Yep, just like people that have done well in other fields would probably do well in medicine.
 
I disagree with both of these statements.

I'm a strong proponent of the philosophy that being successful at something heavily depends on work ethic. Not so much on smartness or creativity or luck. Work ethic is something that most people who get into med school have lots of. I'll be the first to admit that I'm not that smart. But I sure as heck busted my butt to get to where I am today. That's the biggest reason why I don't have trouble believing that med students and physicians can be pretty successful in other professions.

I refuse to be those incompetent physicians I've dealt with/heard about. I want to know medicine to do medicine the right way. I definitely have the work ethic (and stubborness).

And I agree - being successful in one thing doesn't mean you'll be great in another. I'll never be great as a chemist/physicist. I'll be damned if I could program to save my life.
 
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