why is dds still around

[korndoctor]

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in this new era of transformation where future dentistry will focus more as a med specialty, hence creation of DMD degree, why is DDS still around? will schools in future change the DDS title to DMD?

some schools like case western have started the dentist-physician model. lets have debate on this topic. do you guys think this is good for dental profession or no? what are advantages and disadvantages you guys see?

are there any other schools with this new proposed model?

i would like to hear your opinions on this because i will debate it with my interviewers at various dental schools to spark a new wave in dentistry

 

[xhamburgersamx]

in this new era of transformation where future dentistry will focus more as a med specialty, hence creation of DMD degree, why is DDS still around? will schools in future change the DDS title to DMD?

some schools like case western have started the dentist-physician model. lets have debate on this topic. do you guys think this is good for dental profession or no? what are advantages and disadvantages you guys see?

are there any other schools with this new proposed model?

i would like to hear your opinions on this because i will debate it with my interviewers at various dental schools to spark a new wave in dentistry

DMD was not "hence-ly" created because it's more of sub specialty of medicine. All health care is related to "medicine" if you like to put it that way. A reliable google search explains that Harvard, the first school to award the DMD did not want to use DDS because that translated to CDD in latin, the only language Harvard awards their degrees. Thus they used D.M.D which simply enough translates to D.M.D in latin.

The cirriculums of DDS and DMD are pretty much the same according to the ADA. What is the dentist-physican model? Did you mean taking extra and intra oral exams prior to data collection? Or taking blood pressure and pulse on the initial patient interview? Or did you need to take a blood test beforehand? lol

 

[allenmarchallo]

What is the dentist-physican model? Did you mean taking extra and intra oral exams prior to data collection? Or taking blood pressure and pulse on the initial patient interview? Or did you need to take a blood test beforehand? lol

He is talking about this:
http://dental.case.edu/dmdmd/

 

[xhamburgersamx]

He is talking about this:
http://dental.case.edu/dmdmd/

Oh very interesting program!

Good way to earn an M.D. in only 1 extra year of medical rotations!

I'd love to do this if I were thinking about specializing in OMFS or want to go into residency training like anesthesiology and work dentistry part time. Can you a licensed MD and DMD at the same time practicing both simulatenously? I'm not sure if that's possible.

Hey come in for a root canal and let me probe your butt afterwards!

 

[americanpierg]

in this new era of transformation where future dentistry will focus more as a med specialty, hence creation of DMD degree, why is DDS still around? will schools in future change the DDS title to DMD?

some schools like case western have started the dentist-physician model. lets have debate on this topic. do you guys think this is good for dental profession or no? what are advantages and disadvantages you guys see?

are there any other schools with this new proposed model?

i would like to hear your opinions on this because i will debate it with my interviewers at various dental schools to spark a new wave in dentistry

I think the question is Why is DMD still around?. The previous poster was correct in that it was created solely because of Harvard's ego and tradition. Who would think it would spread like a plague to a few other schools (mainly the "better" schools).

 

[allenmarchallo]

Oh very interesting program!

Good way to earn an M.D. in only 1 extra year of medical rotations!

I'd love to do this if I were thinking about specializing in OMFS or want to go into residency training like anesthesiology and work dentistry part time. Can you a licensed MD and DMD at the same time practicing both simulatenously? I'm not sure if that's possible.

Hey come in for a root canal and let me probe your butt afterwards!

Yeah, it sounds nice and all, but.........You'd have to do atleast a 3 yr residency to be licensed (as a family practitioner)------(5+3=8 yrs)......Oh, and if u wanna be a OMFS, it's still gonna be an additional 4 yrs...


So if you wanna practice both OMFS and be licensed MD at the very minimum I think you're looking at 5 yrs school + 4 yrs OMFS + 3 yrs Primary care residency= 12 yrs....

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong....

 

[armorshell]

So if you wanna practice both OMFS and be licensed MD at the very minimum I think you're looking at 5 yrs school + 4 yrs OMFS + 3 yrs Primary care residency= 12 yrs....

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong....

To get a medical license most states require 1 year of residency (Some require 2, few require 3). So it would look like this:

Case DMD/MD = 5 years + 1 year internship (To license MD) + 4 years OMFS residnecy = 10 years

OR

DMD= 4 years + 6 years OMFS/MD residency = 10 years.

Zounds!

 

[StirrinIt]

cuz DDS is a baller and dont give up without a fight

 

[lphiewok]

in this new era of transformation where future dentistry will focus more as a med specialty, hence creation of DMD degree, why is DDS still around? will schools in future change the DDS title to DMD?

some schools like case western have started the dentist-physician model. lets have debate on this topic. do you guys think this is good for dental profession or no? what are advantages and disadvantages you guys see?

are there any other schools with this new proposed model?

i would like to hear your opinions on this because i will debate it with my interviewers at various dental schools to spark a new wave in dentistry

i don't think you should 'debate' this topic with your interviewers..

 

[korndoctor]

haha i was thinking the same, but its interesting to think about how schools like case is trying to train a new generation of dentist...any other schools doing something like that?

so in practice, u could do general dentistry and practice primary care...did they do this cuz theres a shortage of primary care physicians?

 

[xhamburgersamx]

haha i was thinking the same, but its interesting to think about how schools like case is trying to train a new generation of dentist...any other schools doing something like that?

so in practice, u could do general dentistry and practice primary care...did they do this cuz theres a shortage of primary care physicians?

IMO they created this option for two reasons 1)those students who are highly exceptional but don't know whether they want to do dentistry or medicine. You get to have both options open.

2) for those that want to use medical principles and apply it to dentistry like they said through research, public health, etc.

The program is really good but they are not creating it so a person can do dentistry and primary care separately.

 

[sarah_bellum]

cuz DDS is a baller and dont give up without a fight

Maestro, I say "Right on!"

 

[KitKat09]

so in practice, u could do general dentistry and practice primary care...did they do this cuz theres a shortage of primary care physicians?[/QUOTE]

yeah, just imagine husband goes with wife to their family practitioner
" My wife is about to give birth and I could use some teeth cleaning while waiting"....

 

[DSpagnoli]

Primary Care when you go to see the dentist? What a joke.

Seems like more and more schools are teaching less dentistry, and more systemic medicine. I have a buddy who is in his 2nd year and has no idea what the difference is between an all gold prep and PFM prep. He has never done anything past a class I amalgam prep. I feel bad for future patients who get butchered because dental schools stopped teaching real clinical dentistry.

 

[yuppers]

I have a buddy who is in his 2nd year and has no idea what the difference is between an all gold prep and PFM prep. He has never done anything past a class I amalgam prep. I feel bad for future patients who get butchered because dental schools stopped teaching real clinical dentistry.

He is in his second year... so don't lose all hope just yet.
But just out of curiosity what school does this friend go to?

 

[lphiewok]

haha i was thinking the same, but its interesting to think about how schools like case is trying to train a new generation of dentist...any other schools doing something like that?

so in practice, u could do general dentistry and practice primary care...did they do this cuz theres a shortage of primary care physicians?

im not sure if this is still true or not, but i was actually researching this DMD/MD dual degree program before and i believe they were requiring MCAT score and also it was more meant for medical school students.
you can do search on DMD/MD or dual degree, i think there was a post which discussed this program and other programs which also offers dual degree (e.g. NOVA with DO dual degree)