Why is EM not considered a lifestyle residency?

[coop528]

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I want lifestyle, and like the idea of ER shiftwork. I'm relatively early in my medical education (M3), and lifestyle is the first criteria I am using to rule out specialties to consider.

Thoughts??

 

[Sessamoid]

Why is EM not considered a lifestyle residency?

Because there's no "E" in "ROAD?"

 

[funkless]

Because there's no "E" in "ROAD?"

Lemme try my noob deciphering skills out here...

Radiology
O... (tough one)... ophthalmology? Surely not. Ortho? (Just kidding.)
Allergy/Immunology
Dermatology

--Funkless

 

[DocBrown]

Radiology
Ophtho
Anesthesia
Derm

Actually, I believe EM is beginning to be considered "lifestyle" profession. For many students (like me), EM is a way to practice medicine as I see it--a JOB, not a "calling."

 

[Sessamoid]

O is definitely ophthalmology. One of my cousins is a successful ophthalmologist, and he fits the pattern. The ROAD specialties are supposed to give you money, leisure, and low stress. Radiology less so these days, I feel, with the increasing procedural emphasis in the field. They still get good money, but the stress levels are definitely higher than they used to be as well.

 

[leviathan]

I want lifestyle, and like the idea of ER shiftwork. I'm relatively early in my medical education (M3), and lifestyle is the first criteria I am using to rule out specialties to consider.

Thoughts??

From what I gather, would an EM doc typically do three 12 hour shifts a week, so 3 days on, 4 days off? As for the stress of the job itself, I'm sure it's very high, but I like the idea of the work week if that is true.

 

[Sessamoid]

From what I gather, would an EM doc typically do three 12 hour shifts a week, so 3 days on, 4 days off? As for the stress of the job itself, I'm sure it's very high, but I like the idea of the work week if that is true.

EM schedules vary a lot between practices, but 3 twelve hour shifts a week isn't unusual at all.

 

[roja]

As sessamoid said, it can really vary. Are you academic? private? in a competitive market (NYC, SF, etc)? Are you going full time? part time?

And then there are some people who onlyh work per diem, they work when, where and how much they want.


There is alot of flexibility in EM work scedules. Lifestyle is definately one of the reasons I picked it. However, the lifestyle doesn't matter if you hate working in the ED.

Other fields have 'shift' work as well. Pediatricians can work as hospitalists, as can IM docs...

 

[starayamoskva]

Radiology
Ophtho
Anesthesia
Derm

Actually, I believe EM is beginning to be considered "lifestyle" profession. For many students (like me), EM is a way to practice medicine as I see it--a JOB, not a "calling."

How did you get anesthesia on the list for lifestyle friendly, if the surgeons life is hell because he has to do emergent cases who do you think is going to put them to sleep?

 

[tonem]

I think it will be the CRNA under the supervision of the Anesthesiologist that has call three times a month that puts the emergent surgery patient to sleep. The Anesthesiologist will pop in at the beginning of the case...then go back to the lounge and catch up on the WSJ to see where he is going to invest that $500,000 salary. 😛

 

[DocBrown]

How did you get anesthesia on the list for lifestyle friendly, if the surgeons life is hell because he has to do emergent cases who do you think is going to put them to sleep?

Well, seeing as how I did not invent that little ROAD mnemonic, I have no real answer to your question.

 

[Sessamoid]

I think it will be the CRNA under the supervision of the Anesthesiologist that has call three times a month that puts the emergent surgery patient to sleep. The Anesthesiologist will pop in at the beginning of the case...then go back to the lounge and catch up on the WSJ to see where he is going to invest that $500,000 salary. 😛

And even the CRNA is going to be sitting for the whole case while the surgeon is standing and screwing up his back and feet. What with computer automated monitors, the CRNA is also probably also catching up on some very important.... literature.

 

[Firebird]

There's no P in ROAD, either...but pathology is a lifestyle specialty, too.

 

[Febrifuge]

Well, if we can use "Gas" instead of "Anaesthesiology," then ROAD can become GROPED and everyone will be included. 😀

 

[VienneseWaltz]

Well, if we can use "Gas" instead of "Anaesthesiology," then ROAD can become GROPED and everyone will be included. 😀

 

[iatrosB]

Well, if we can use "Gas" instead of "Anaesthesiology," then ROAD can become GROPED and everyone will be included. 😀

It has a nice ring to it.

 

[banner]

While the hours and pay are good...

Problem with ER is that you have to deal with so many annoying patients. In the ROAD specialty you don't.

While Anes and Derm has patient contact, they aren't filthy, drunk and beligerent. If you enjoy working with this population, then ER is fine.

 

[roja]

While the hours and pay are good...

Problem with ER is that you have to deal with so many annoying patients. In the ROAD specialty you don't.

While Anes and Derm has patient contact, they aren't filthy, drunk and beligerent. If you enjoy working with this population, then ER is fine.

Depends on what ER you are in.


😀

 

[tupac_don]

And even the CRNA is going to be sitting for the whole case while the surgeon is standing and screwing up his back and feet. What with computer automated monitors, the CRNA is also probably also catching up on some very important.... literature.

Right, the surgeon will be doing the HARD work and the CRNA will be chilling.

 

[kungfufishing]

whats wrong with being filthy, drunk, and belligerent? its how i get all the chicks...