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Why is every pre-med I know so far on campus a social people person?

I'm talking the room-with-3-best-friends, party-till-late-on-Sunday type of student? As for me, I prefer quiet Friday evenings on my own just relaxing or catching up on everything (reading, other solitary hobbies, etc), and although I sometimes go out with a few friends for some food and fun...it's never anything such as parties or huge social events, just me and a couple of good friends hanging out. BUT, the main point is that I prefer, overall, to be alone and do things my own way.

Now I know some people on this forum who prefer their own dorms/apartments and value personal time, but is anyone as bad about it as me? The general trend I'm seeing has me worried! Do unsocial students somehow lack an essential component necessary for medical school?? It sure seems that way. 🙁
 
Well, medicine does require a certain amount of social interaction and the skills that go along with that, but you don't need to be some social butterfly. People differ in what they value, and if you value your own time and prefer quiet nights to loud parties this should have no bearing on whether or not you're going to make it in medicine. That said, cutting loose occasionally can be fun, and it's probably good to have some sort of healthy balance. I would be concerned if the future of medicine was the Friday night scene at the bar.

The biggest theme in this forum is the pre-med who is concerned with what others are doing. Don't worry about that stuff because you have no bearing on it. Do your own thing and seek your own answers to medically pertinent questions (especially ones so introspective as "will I make it if..."). The behavioral traits of your pre-med peers are not the best source for you to derive inspiration in answering this question. They aren't in yet, and maybe they can balance their social life with school and maybe they can't (one thing I can say is that if you can't cut it in school you won't make it in medicine). Just worry about what's in your control and go from there.
 
Damn...I guess I'm way behind. I don't even have time to sleep, never mind hang out with friends. I commute to school everyday, about 4 hours round trip, and when I get home I do all my studying and homework. Weekends suck too, since I usually spend them catching up on all of the stuff that I didn't have time to do during the week.
 
Algophiliac said:
Why is every pre-med I know so far on campus a social people person?

I'm talking the room-with-3-best-friends, party-till-late-on-Sunday type of student? As for me, I prefer quiet Friday evenings on my own just relaxing or catching up on everything (reading, other solitary hobbies, etc), and although I sometimes go out with a few friends for some food and fun...it's never anything such as parties or huge social events, just me and a couple of good friends hanging out. BUT, the main point is that I prefer, overall, to be alone and do things my own way.

Now I know some people on this forum who prefer their own dorms/apartments and value personal time, but is anyone as bad about it as me? The general trend I'm seeing has me worried! Do unsocial students somehow lack an essential component necessary for medical school?? It sure seems that way. 🙁
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What year are you?
 
Maybe it's easy to meet the sociable ones??

There are going to be social and non-social people in every major. There is nothing wrong with either one, as long as the person can balance their personality well-enough to do well in their classes and be able to communicate with their colleagues and (future) patients.

Yes, if you're totally unsociable you're going to have trouble in med school. We have to do a lot of talking with patients, faculty, doctors and each other. It takes a lot to be so unsociable that you can't do that, though. As long as you're not inept it's fine. And as long as Mr./Miss Social is hanging out and partying, but being responsible and still maintaining their grades that is fine, also.
 
Andy71600 said:
What year are you?
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I am a freshman. Does this have some sort of impact on my social life that I'm not aware of?

Thank you for the detailed answer, spyderracing32.

To be entirely honest, I am so concerned about how others perceive me that I have limited the time I spend reading for pleasure, writing short stories, or doing other solitary hobbies.

Thanks, aggie08, and you may be correct in that respect. What I found interesting was that the pre-med club leaders were also social party-going individuals, which makes me wonder if choosing not to spend some time mindlessly socializing results in a lack of certain traits I may need to cultivate.
 
Algophiliac said:
I am a freshman. Does this have some sort of impact on my social life that I'm not aware of?
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The point is that many freshman pre-meds aren't going to end up in medical school. While you're busy engaging in thoughtful activities and going out to eat with friends, they're busy playing Beer Pong on Sunday night before an organic chemistry midterm. Then suddenly when they take the MCAT and get a well-rounded 17M, their plans change. Obviously, I'm not saying that every pre-med falls into that category, but I've met plenty of people like that.
 
Algophiliac said:
I am a freshman. Does this have some sort of impact on my social life that I'm not aware of?

Thank you for the detailed answer, spyderracing32.

To be entirely honest, I am so concerned about how others perceive me that I have limited the time I spend reading for pleasure, writing short stories, or doing other solitary hobbies.

Thanks, aggie08, and you may be correct in that respect. What I found interesting was that the pre-med club leaders were also social party-going individuals, which makes me wonder if choosing not to spend some time mindlessly socializing results in a lack of certain traits I may need to cultivate.
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The majority of those people will no longer be pre-med coming junior year. Everyone comes in saying, "Oh yeah PRE MED!." Then they have to take classes, and we all know what happens next
 
All you need to know is work hard, play hard, and you'll do just fine 🙂
 
I'm seeing the opposite. I don't know ANYONE else who is a pre-med.

Maybe it's because I live in North Dakota?

I see it as a good thing. The one medical school in ND has a 95% acceptance rate of ND students.
 
lol I don't think so.

It's simple man.. Why do you know these sociable premeds??

Yeah yeah.. because they are Sociable..

So why you don't know other premeds?

Yeah yeah.. because they NOT sociable so you dunno them

Simple enough?
 
I would consider myself to be the social premed type. But at times I feel like i'm looked down upon by other premeds because I am not studying 12 hours a day. Has this happened to anybody else??
 
Poliscidoc said:
I would consider myself to be the social premed type. But at times I feel like i'm looked down upon by other premeds because I am not studying 12 hours a day. Has this happened to anybody else??
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Hah every day... I'm a pre-med chem major who is a varsity swimmer
 
firewall62 said:
The point is that many freshman pre-meds aren't going to end up in medical school. While you're busy engaging in thoughtful activities and going out to eat with friends, they're busy playing Beer Pong on Sunday night before an organic chemistry midterm. Then suddenly when they take the MCAT and get a well-rounded 17M, their plans change. Obviously, I'm not saying that every pre-med falls into that category, but I've met plenty of people like that.
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While there are many people who enter college as pre-med and then party to hard and end up not being able to go to medical school, there are still many people (myself and my friends) who party pretty much every weekend and then work hard all week. Of course I'm not going to party on the sunday night before my o-chem exam, but Ive found it fairly easy to balance having fun with school. There is a lot more time in the day than some of you put on. Of course to each his own and if partying is not your thing that is totally acceptable. But dont judge people that do party and are still able to maintain they schoolwork. And me and my friends have all been accepted.
 
Most of the pre-meds I know are cutthroat competitive bookwarm types.
 
Sauce1 said:
While there are many people who enter college as pre-med and then party to hard and end up not being able to go to medical school, there are still many people (myself and my friends) who party pretty much every weekend and then work hard all week. Of course I'm not going to party on the sunday night before my o-chem exam, but Ive found it fairly easy to balance having fun with school. There is a lot more time in the day than some of you put on. Of course to each his own and if partying is not your thing that is totally acceptable. But dont judge people that do party and are still able to maintain they schoolwork. And me and my friends have all been accepted.
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I'm in the same category that you are. There are some people who can party and succeed academically at the same time. It's just a question of time management. But I wasn't talking about people like you and me. There are a lot of students who want to be pre-meds but don't have the dedication to get into medical school, and they shouldn't be confused with the pre-meds who successfully balance partying with school--a much rarer breed of student.
 
"Unsocial" premeds don't lack qualities essential for medicine, IMO. Just be who you are. Don't get caught up in what your classmates are doing.
 
firewall62 said:
I'm in the same category that you are. There are some people who can party and succeed academically at the same time. It's just a question of time management. But I wasn't talking about people like you and me. There are a lot of students who want to be pre-meds but don't have the dedication to get into medical school, and they shouldn't be confused with the pre-meds who successfully balance partying with school--a much rarer breed of student.
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agreed 👍
 
As a non-trad, I am attempting to play the people person card. I am very social, and that is ONE of the TOP reasons why I want to go into Medicine. I like interacting with people. My best experiences with medical personal have been with the ones who talked to me like I was the most important person in the world. I felt like they really cared about ME, and wanted me to be well.


As an undergrad, I was a Physics major. I teased there were 2 types of physics majors, and both were extreme. Those who very sociable and those who weren't. It also seemed like I met a lot of people on prescription medicines for anxiety disorders and depression in college.

I had fun in college. It was definitely the greatest time in my life (only because of the uncertainty of the real world after school and the difficulty in meeting like minded people). I was also the president of the Physics club, and the only female Greek physics major I knew of. I worked hard and I played hard. You know pre-pre parties and post-post- parties. My weekends started Thursday night and went till when I woke up on Sunday afternoon. (BTW, when I say party, I do not mean drinking alcohol, I mean going out and meeting people and exploring the world. I was often the designated driver.)

More socialable people tend to go for leadership positions more. You definitely want to have a few of those on your application.

The OP asked if there was a skill he should be cultivating. The answer is for med school it doesn't seem to matter, but for Medicine it does, assuming you have the ECs taking care of to get into Med school. You should be comfortable with interacting with others if you want to do primary care. You could always go into research or a sub-specialty if you prefer to be solitary. I don't, that is why I left research.

Good luck!
 
firewall62 said:
The point is that many freshman pre-meds aren't going to end up in medical school. While you're busy engaging in thoughtful activities and going out to eat with friends, they're busy playing Beer Pong on Sunday night before an organic chemistry midterm. Then suddenly when they take the MCAT and get a well-rounded 17M, their plans change. Obviously, I'm not saying that every pre-med falls into that category, but I've met plenty of people like that.
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But numerous club officers, all of whom are either juniors or seniors, also behave in this manner! I would have at least expected the "top" pre-meds in terms of ECs to be less social. Or perhaps at least a few of them could be my type. 🙁

See, it is not that I can't balance social life and school...it is rather that I choose not to because I do not really enjoy these meaningless activities. And often doing things alone may be misconstrued as me being lonely, but this is not always the case...actually, it was never the case until I came to college and saw that EVERYONE was social and felt left out...not because I wanted to be social, but because I didn't. I simply like doing solitary activities...things most people do only when they can't find friends to go out with.
 
Algophiliac said:
But numerous club officers, all of whom are either juniors or seniors, also behave in this manner! I would have at least expected the "top" pre-meds in terms of ECs to be less social. Or perhaps at least a few of them could be my type. 🙁

See, it is not that I can't balance social life and school...it is rather that I choose not to because I do not really enjoy these meaningless activities. And often doing things alone may be misconstrued as me being lonely, but this is not always the case...actually, it was never the case until I came to college and saw that EVERYONE was social and felt left out...not because I wanted to be social, but because I didn't. I simply like doing solitary activities...things most people do only when they can't find friends to go out with.
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What's meaningless to you doesn't mean it's meaningless to everyone else. You should try not to let others bring you down. There's nothing wrong with being social as long as it doesn't end up biting you in the butt (regarding GPA, etc.). And there's also nothing wrong with being solitary. I do agree with others that most of medicine involves interactions with patients, etc. and it would help if you're a naturally social person.
 
In my interview, I was asked a lot of questions about my social life. It's been said that a relevant social life is definitely taken into consideration by any ADCOM out there. It's all about finding the right balance in your life to have fun and be successful. Trust me, I'm doing just as well as some of my classmates who claim to spend hours and hours studying, when I do not do nearly as much. I'm just having fun with college.
 
No. Look at House. He's a loner and he made it through medical school. 😀

You don't have to be exremely social to be a physician. Can you speak to someone and get your idea across clearly? If yes, then you have an ability that can help you be a physician.
 
ILikeDrugs said:
No. Look at House. He's a loner and he made it through medical school. 😀

You don't have to be exremely social to be a physician. Can you speak to someone and get your idea across clearly? If yes, then you have an ability that can help you be a physician.
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Haha that is true. I wish I could be half as smart as that character! :laugh:
 
Since when did not being social mean spending all day studying without having fun?
 
I feel like most of the premeds (who are going to make it) at my school are pretty well rounded. Party at least one night a weekend, go to the football games, whatever, and spend most of the weekdays studying, exercising, etc. Haven't come across any of the cut throat crazy people or many of the loners. I'm probably more on the loner side than most of them, and I'm still pretty sociable.
 
Just be thankful your pre-med friends are friendly!

Itch count: 3

When I come across such people, I just add one more tally to the Itch count and move on....

- the people who like to discourage others (maybe you shouldn't go into medicine blah blah blah)
- the people who constantly want to know where X is in the interview process and what they wrote in blah blah blah application essay
- the people who really aren't doing any better than me in class (not better, not worse) but insist on putting on the persona that they are God's gift to mankind and smarter than everyone (their policy is ... who cares what your test score is, just act like you're getting a 100 in everything and pretend to be better than everyone and maybe it will actually come true..... WRONG)

I wish they would save themselves the trouble, because at this point in my academic career - I can see right through those types. It leaves me a little pissed off because it was never so clear to me before.... Now, time to cultivate some good old APATHY.

thanks, i just needed to vent 🙂

And you're lucky to have cool pre-med roommates. Of course, it's not the most convenient when they have parties and stuff. Hope you like the library!! And yeah I don't think you have to be Mr. Popular to do well in medicine. A certain amount of social comfort is required... but nothing over the top is necessarily required or essential.
 
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Algophiliac said:
Why is every pre-med I know so far on campus a social people person?

I'm talking the room-with-3-best-friends, party-till-late-on-Sunday type of student? As for me, I prefer quiet Friday evenings on my own just relaxing or catching up on everything (reading, other solitary hobbies, etc), and although I sometimes go out with a few friends for some food and fun...it's never anything such as parties or huge social events, just me and a couple of good friends hanging out. BUT, the main point is that I prefer, overall, to be alone and do things my own way.

Now I know some people on this forum who prefer their own dorms/apartments and value personal time, but is anyone as bad about it as me? The general trend I'm seeing has me worried! Do unsocial students somehow lack an essential component necessary for medical school?? It sure seems that way. 🙁
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don't stress about it. like it was said earlier, you don't have to be a complete social butterfly. i'm kind of like you too, where the party scene isn't my thing. in the spare time i have (which isn't much), i like to relax and just hang out with my close friends too. when i was a senior in college, i worked/went to school/researched 7 days a week, so I didn't really have time to do anything crazy anyway. i found it highly disturbing that a lot of premeds i knew had time to party every week... but then i found out that some of their GPAs weren't so hot...

the point of my little rant was that you should try not to worry about other people, everyone is different. so what if you don't party every night... as you can relate to your patients and work well with your colleagues, you can be a good doctor.
 
most medstudents are extroverted.
the introverted people get phds.
 
What works for other people may not work for you. If you a choosing to stay home, why do you care if your friends go out? You can be social but still prefer to be alone most of the time, who gives.
 
anxiousteen said:
most medstudents are extroverted.
the introverted people get phds.
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And Santa Claus is real, get out of your little bubble of unicorns and rainbows. When you take the Huggies off is when you will be ready to post comments, but for now watch some Blue's Clues... and get a clue.
 
CoolWhipp said:
What works for other people may not work for you. If you a choosing to stay home, why do you care if your friends go out? You can be social but still prefer to be alone most of the time, who gives.
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It seemed fine to me when I lived back home, in a relatively isolated environment where seeking out friends to go do stuff actually required considerable effort and planning. However, here, people are everywhere, naturally making it more...acceptable, if not required...to socialize to a greater extent.

Maybe I really am overanalyzing everything, and staying in my dorm on a Friday night does not look as bad as I imagine it must look?

And I just want to point out that I'm not necessarily studying instead of partying, but instead engaging in some of my solitary hobbies. So this is not really a question about balancing social life and studies while under time constraints, but thank you for any input.

EDIT: I am actually wondering why people say PhDs are antisocial, since most research nowadays involves teams of researchers, active presentations, and even some business-networking type activities in order to obtain funds. Not to mention I believe there are specialties in medicine that have less of a "people focus", such as radiology.
 
I wouldn't worry too much as long as you're content with where you are. I seriously doubt that getting plowed twice a week and having hot co-eds hanging on your arm everywhere you go will make adcoms like you.

I myself am quite introverted and I dislike parties. I am, however, very socially adaptable--I can adjust to any social situation just fine if necessary. You may be similar--not outgoing, but not awkward either.
 
Teneo said:
I wouldn't worry too much as long as you're content with where you are. I seriously doubt that getting plowed twice a week and having hot co-eds hanging on your arm everywhere you go will make adcoms like you.

I myself am quite introverted and I dislike parties. I am, however, very socially adaptable--I can adjust to any social situation just fine if necessary. You may be similar--not outgoing, but not awkward either.
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😛 We'll have to see what LizzyM has to say about how adcoms would perceive students such as me.

I believe I could work on being slightly more socially adaptable, but when you put me in a situation in which I feel comfortable, I can easily socialize with others. This includes extracurricular activities and various interests both inside and outside of medicine. When I feel confident and passionate about something, it shows and I find it easy to converse with others.

However, I do also need my "me" time to think, relax, and other philosophical stuff. 😉 Why can't social students accept this? It makes me very self-conscious to do anything alone these days.

Not to mention that I don't believe I would even have any issues dealing with people-oriented medical specialties. I actually quite enjoy talking to patients and seeing the direct impact I have made on their moods. 🙂 This really has nothing to do with how I prefer to spend my Friday nights, does it?
 
Algophiliac said:
😛 We'll have to see what LizzyM has to say about how adcoms would perceive students such as me.

I believe I could work on being slightly more socially adaptable, but when you put me in a situation in which I feel comfortable, I can easily socialize with others. This includes extracurricular activities and various interests both inside and outside of medicine. When I feel confident and passionate about something, it shows and I find it easy to converse with others.

However, I do also need my "me" time to think, relax, and other philosophical stuff. 😉 Why can't social students accept this? It makes me very self-conscious to do anything alone these days.

Not to mention that I don't believe I would even have any issues dealing with people-oriented medical specialties. I actually quite enjoy talking to patients and seeing the direct impact I have made on their moods. 🙂 This really has nothing to do with how I prefer to spend my Friday nights, does it?
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Actually, I think that a more introverted personality could be perceived as admirable in an applicant--someone with a sense of gravitas and self-discipline.

And I enjoy patient contact, too. Honestly, you sound like you'd be BETTER off than the highly outgoing types, because you seem to take an interest in people for more personal and meaningful reasons--contact isn't merely a "fun" thing for you. After all, who would you rather have: a doctor who's an outgoing party type, or one who's laid back but takes genuine interest in you as an individual? (not to say you can't be both, of course. But the latter is more valuable.)

I think you'll be just fine. 😉
 
CoolWhipp said:
And Santa Claus is real, get out of your little bubble of unicorns and rainbows. When you take the Huggies off is when you will be ready to post comments, but for now watch some Blue's Clues... and get a clue.
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don't know why my comment is upsetting you guys. not trying to hurt your feelings or anything. just saying that medicine as a career attracts more extroverted people. it's almost a requirement for the job to be a people person.
 
Andy71600 said:
What year are you?
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I personally am a Sophomore by age, Junior by credit/hrs; however, I have the complete opposite problem. I find all pre-meds I meet are kind've nerdy and geeky. Most of the pre-med females are unattractive and very socially awkward, and the guys are either d-bags who think they're already doctors or these guys who spend too much time in lab and not enough time drinking. I usually hang with the athletes and end up partying with them, there is only 1 pre-med athlete I know of and he's social and cool, but he's also really smart and setting the curve for his organic chem class. I have met a total of 2 attractive pre-med females, one was a complete sociopath and the other was really drunk (I may have been too), but her lack of oral hygene and unalligned teeth made me cringe. I could not hold a conversation with her because her teeth actually disgusted me. I wish there were more cool pre-meds I could chill with and not have to worry about engaging in conversation about classes and extracurrix and applying. I just wanna chill and smoke a stogie with a pre-med for once.
 
firewall62 said:
The point is that many freshman pre-meds aren't going to end up in medical school. While you're busy engaging in thoughtful activities and going out to eat with friends, they're busy playing Beer Pong on Sunday night before an organic chemistry midterm. Then suddenly when they take the MCAT and get a well-rounded 17M, their plans change. Obviously, I'm not saying that every pre-med falls into that category, but I've met plenty of people like that.
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Nothing more engaging than that! 👍 And I think most of your views are misguided, pretty much all the pre-meds I've come across party hard. They've also switched to dental though, so go figure.

Andy71600 said:
The majority of those people will no longer be pre-med coming junior year. Everyone comes in saying, "Oh yeah PRE MED!." Then they have to take classes, and we all know what happens next
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Yea, intro bio had some gorgeous girls it it. Biochem...not so much.
 
spyderracing32 said:
The biggest theme in this forum is the pre-med who is concerned with what others are doing. Don't worry about that stuff because you have no bearing on it. Do your own thing and seek your own answers to medically pertinent questions (especially ones so introspective as "will I make it if..."). The behavioral traits of your pre-med peers are not the best source for you to derive inspiration in answering this question. They aren't in yet, and maybe they can balance their social life with school and maybe they can't (one thing I can say is that if you can't cut it in school you won't make it in medicine). Just worry about what's in your control and go from there.
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👍
 
Poliscidoc said:
I would consider myself to be the social premed type. But at times I feel like i'm looked down upon by other premeds because I am not studying 12 hours a day. Has this happened to anybody else??
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I assume you mean envied, provided you're still getting the grades.

anxiousteen said:
most medstudents are extroverted.
the introverted people get phds.
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:idea: Smart introverts... Why couldn't they become surgeons?
 
anxiousteen said:
don't know why my comment is upsetting you guys. not trying to hurt your feelings or anything. just saying that medicine as a career attracts more extroverted people. it's almost a requirement for the job to be a people person.
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It's not upsetting anyone. We're just calling you out on using a sweeping generalization. You act as if the only thing that separates medicine and research is the extroversion/introversion of the individuals in it.

And what exactly does being a "people person" even mean? Are you saying an introvert can't possibly gain satisfaction or be motivated by treating sick people?

I'm not so sure medicine is as dominated by extroverts as you seem to think.
 
I'd also like to point out that being social and being extroverted are two different things. Extroverts are energized by being with people, introverts are energized by spending time alone. But introverts need to socialize (all humans do) and extroverts need alone time. In any case, it's a spectrum.

To the OP--there's absolutely nothing wrong with preferring to spend your weeknights alone and shunning the typical college party lifestyle. Introverted people only get into trouble when they start to think that they're somehow better or more mature than their extroverted peers because they prefer alone time to partying. Your comment on "meaningless activities" led me to say this. Who are you to say what activities are meaningless to other people? 🙂 As long as you don't go down that road, and you are comfortable conversing with people when you need to, your introversion isn't going to affect you as a doctor. What worries me more is that you state how you're very worried of what others think of you. Introvert, extrovert, or whatever, you need to work on being more comfortable with yourself.
 
anxiousteen said:
most medstudents are extroverted.
the introverted people get phds.
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Oh man...I'm extroverted, and introverted...does that make me just verted?

As for the OP - there is nothing wrong with being introverted, but there is a difference between being introverted and antisocial. Introverted people prefer to be alone, but can socialize normally when they need to. Antisocial people, on the other hand, generally do not do well in social situations, even when they are very important ones (like interviews). You need to figure out which of those two camps you belong to. Go to a mock interview - if you can perform well and you are happy with being introverted, then stop worrying so much. If your mock interviewer tells you that you are "nervous", "mumbling", "incomprehensible", "hostile", or any of those things, then you need to start working on your social skills. You could try taking a public speaking class, joining a debate team, joining an acting troupe, etc. Just do something that will take you out of your comfort zone and make you speak!
 
outgoing people make better doctors! if you're attractive then that is bonus :smug:
 
Algophiliac said:
Why is every pre-med I know so far on campus a social people person?

I'm talking the room-with-3-best-friends, party-till-late-on-Sunday type of student? As for me, I prefer quiet Friday evenings on my own just relaxing or catching up on everything (reading, other solitary hobbies, etc), and although I sometimes go out with a few friends for some food and fun...it's never anything such as parties or huge social events, just me and a couple of good friends hanging out. BUT, the main point is that I prefer, overall, to be alone and do things my own way.

Now I know some people on this forum who prefer their own dorms/apartments and value personal time, but is anyone as bad about it as me? The general trend I'm seeing has me worried! Do unsocial students somehow lack an essential component necessary for medical school?? It sure seems that way. 🙁
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Nope. I'm right there with you. I recharge with alone time and enjoy it, but I also hang out in smaller groups and am not attracted to huge, large parties. Just keep in mind that taking the extra step to be more social now and then is excellent for networking and finding opportunities.
 
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