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por que harvard > johns hopkins?
Originally posted by MacGyver
Harvard is ranked #1 in the US news solely because they have more hospital affiliations than Hopkins does.
This means that they have more research dollars because US news counts all the research dollars for ALL the affiliated hospitals.
Hopkins is a real close 2nd place, but as long as Harvard continues to have like 17 different hospitals, they have big enough research dollar edge to stay in the #1 slot.
In my opinion, Hopkins is better than Harvard... Harvard gets "bonus" points amongst the applicants solely because it has a spectacular undergrad reputation. If Harvard didnt have its undergrad program, and you were evaluating medical schools BASED SOLELY on the medical school itself, I think Hopkins would be the clear consensus #1 med school in the world, provided that you are ranking schools based SOLELY on the strength of the med school, without undergrad or location being considered.
Obviously, Hopkins location is the one thing that hurts it. If Hopkins was located in a better area of town, and if the undergrad had a similar rep as Harvard, I would bet that they would be the clear #1 med school in the world
Originally posted by MacGyver
Harvard is ranked #1 in the US news solely because they have more hospital affiliations than Hopkins does.
If Harvard didnt have its undergrad program, and you were evaluating medical schools BASED SOLELY on the medical school itself, I think Hopkins would be the clear consensus #1 med school in the world, provided that you are ranking schools based SOLELY on the strength of the med school, without undergrad or location being considered.
Originally posted by DarkChild
I doubt anyone could claim that JHU has the same breadth as H does... e.g. across religion, mathematics, english, history....
I'm not on the nuts of the big H, but I'll give it credit for what it has accomplished.
Originally posted by Street Philosopher
por que harvard > johns hopkins?
Originally posted by Linie
Compared to Harvard med school products who aren't as well prepared, need more hand-holding, and have less general background knowledge.
A friend of mine who went to med school here at Hopkins and is now a resident at the Brigham is my source of info on the interns from Harvard.
I would never want to imply that Harvard med students are not as bright as Hopkins students, bc I doubt there's any difference at all, it's just a difference in the training. The Harvard med school grads catch up clinically, of course.
Originally posted by Thewonderer
Not to add fuel to this "heated" debate or anything but I heard from my Yale med friend who is doing his 4th year sub-I rotation: he is only assigned a max of 2 patients and still report straight to the intern (instead of acting at the intern-level and report straight to the resident). Uhm........
Originally posted by Street Philosopher
i just bring this up because i was reading hopkins' history and all the discoveries made there and i wondered how any school could top it. i haven't researched harvard yet because for all i know they've thrown my app in the dumpster.
Originally posted by DocForAll
Although I enjoyed the area Hopkins was in
Well I think its quite obvious now that you've never even been to the Hopkins medical campus.