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Here's my take on why the medical school admissions system is inherently flawed, but before I start let me state a few obvious points:

1) Im not bitching about it, just trying to say why I think its flawed, which leads to……

2) I don't expect AAMCAS to magically change the system overnight, I realize that I have no choice of getting into medical school unless I actually go through with this system when I apply.

3) Any admissions system, be it undergrad, grad, medical, law, etc. is flawed in some sense since many qualified candidates are rejected due to space limitations, etc.

4) This is pretty biased, would I post this if I had a 3.9 cGPA at Harvard and awesome ec's/lor's? I don't know, but thats not where I am.

Getting into medical school is different from getting into any other professional school because being a doctor is different than any other kind of profession out there. Being a doctor places a sense of responsibility that transcends the kind of work any other profession will require. No one is going to die if they lose revenue, no one is going to die if their experiment fails, or if they lose a court case. That kind of assurance isn't prevalent in this field because if a doctor makes a mistake, the patient may very well die.

Yes all of this is obvious, but moving on, we're dealing with a profession where the cost of failure may result in death or some serious permanent physical or mental problem. Therefore a medical student needs to be able to deal with that kind of pressure, be successful in a high-paced academic environment, and still be sane after all of it because there's four years of school + a lifetime of pressure. Therefore the motivation to be a doctor can't stem from an external source in a person because the pressure of med school will outweigh the pleasure of having those external benefits. Therefore the motivation to be a doctor must be purely internal. Most medical schools follow a standard in the admission of such qualified candidates.

GPA - The filtering factor. Shows the kind of work ethic a candidate has displayed through four years of undergraduate education.

MCAT - Said to measure the potential to do well in med school in a candidate.

LOR/Essay - Reveals character.

EC's - Also reveals character, shows interest and maturity.

Undergrad institution - A very tertiary or quaternary factor, but plays a much bigger role in the higher ranked medical schools.

Im not saying that the system is wrong, because each of these factors need to be considered, just that its flawed. Adcoms are too focused on selecting their version of the "best" candidate. i.e. the one who excels in all of the four fields above, but unlike undergraduate admissions, a candidate who does not excel in one of the above fields is severely disadvantaged due to the fact that the competition is much more.

But let's look at this from a different angle. Take my story, im not writing this for some pity "awww poor you" response, or "don't worry about it, you'll get in" response. There are several others out there like me, and im stating this for the sole purpose of showing a flaw in the system. My cGPA is a 3.3, I had a 2.8 in my first two years of undergraduate where I didn't care, worked at a hospital, saw what medicine was about, and then got a 4.0 in my last two years, with a 38S MCAT. There are several stories like mine out there, and I think that people who did poorly, then "woke up" later have a solid understanding of what to sacrifice, what it takes, and the will to succeed. If I had gotten a consistent 3.8 my entire undergraduate, I don't think I would fully appreciate why I was working so hard beyond the fact that med schools need to see a high GPA.

Before you nerds out there pounce on me, let me finish. Compare this to someone who slacked off for two years, went through a traumatic experience and did really well after. My motivation is not stimulated by some admissions process criteria, but an internal lesson that I learned while working at a hospital in India. A lot of you nerds out there have some internal motivation to be a doctor as well as a 4.0 gpa, and good for you, I wish that I was in your boat, but you live and you learn.

Am I calling myself more intelligent or capable than the 4.0 Harvard grad? No, im an Indian whose Indian friends all go to schools like Cornell, MIT, Berkley, and have 3.8 gpa's while im the only one in my family and family friends circle at a small college in southern Illinois with a 3.3 gpa. Im not saying that Im more intelligent or capable at all.

To summarize so far:

- Being a physician places a responsibility on someone which transcends the responsibility of other professions.

- The motivation to want to be a physician should be internal.

- The admissions system relies on a specific set of criteria for admission.

- Its focused on analyzing which candidate is the "best" in the given criteria.

- Late bloomers have an internal motivation to be a doctor.

The flaw (finally!):

The flaw of this system is that it never really allows candidates who were late bloomers to get a fair review, because:

1) The fact that they have a compromised GPA is seen as a red flag, rather than asking why its so.

2) Academic elitism and favoritism is just wrong. What's the point of having a great character if that 3.8 Harvard grad is going to get preference anyway?

3) Even though we are free to discuss this in the essay and interview, it still gets stacked against us when compared to an applicant with superior "criteria". This isn't entirely wrong, since it makes sense, but it leads to my final point……

I think that med school admissions should include GPA, MCAT, but not admit people compromising their motivation and character. This is especially true for the top med schools, since I doubt my file would even get read at HMS or Columbia since my gpa isn't a 3.8 and I didn't graduate from Princeton (the only exception to this rule is a URM, and boy I wish I was Latino) and almost every Indian there had/has a 4.0 gpa. I think the system works in the opposite direction. If a candidate has an X gpa and an X MCAT score, we can look at his/her motivational aspects. I think that the motivational aspects should be the primary factor when reviewing an application before looking at the numerical "data". As a patient I would much rather be treated by the doctor who wanted to be a doctor because of a true internal motive, rather than some admissions criteria or solid numbers. Anyways go ahead and rip this post apart 😀.
 
you make absolutely no point other than whine about your gpa despite the fact you say you're not going to whine. you also whine about your ethnicity school, blah blah blah.

here's a newsflash -

NOBODY CARES ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK, get over yourself already.
 
you make absolutely no point other than whine about your gpa despite the fact you say you're not going to whine. you also whine about your ethnicity school, blah blah blah.

here's a newsflash -

NOBODY CARES ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK, get over yourself already.

:nod:

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In other news, I have invented a brain scanner that will allow adcoms to quantify the depth of an applicants motivation for medicine. It is available for only a slightly unreasonable price. It is based on the same technology as hypercolor t-shirts.

Motivation is like quarks - you can only attempt to measure it by the shadows and secondary traces it leaves on the world around it. In other words, quit complaining about other people - you can never really know what drives them. Do your own best and if you really mean it, someone will notice.
 
In other news, I have invented a brain scanner that will allow adcoms to quantify the depth of an applicants motivation for medicine. It is available for only a slightly unreasonable price. It is based on the same technology as hypercolor t-shirts.

I was gonna post something similar to this, except not nearly as clever.

The bottom line is that there is also a huge flaw in the OP's argument: apparently you think it's fairly straight-forward to pick up 2 personal statements and list of EC's and think "man, this guy is way more sincere in his desire to be a doctor" or "man, this guy wants it so much more than this other one."

Your flaw is bigger than the flaw you see in the application process.
 
My god, you've solved the admissions process. Please do world hunger next.
 
If you can't get through undergrad with decent grades or show a firm grasp of basic science I do not want you to be my doctor, I don't care how motivated you are.
 
Look at it this way, kiddo. I have a friend who lost his mother to cancer when he was in middle school. He decided he wanted to be a doctor so he could help keep another kid from losing his mom that way. He's worked hard ever since, and he's going to be a great doctor.

I realized exactly why I wanted to be a doctor after my mother developed severe heart disease. Seeing her change her lifestyle and grow stronger has made me realize the difference that a doctor can make, and knowing that I can improve the lives of others has become a great motivation for me.

My friend wants to save lives. I want to make them better.

Also note: we both have about the same stats. How will adcoms look at us? Does one of us have a better motivation than the other? That's something to think about.
 
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The end.
 
Truthfully, your post comes across as pointless. The only purpose I gained from it was that you are bitter because you had a somewhat lackluster GPA your first two years of college. You turned it around, congratulations, and you have a killer MCAT score. You may not get into Columbia, Harvard, Duke, etc (the very institutions that you seem to be misdirecting some of your anger towards). But you'll be able to get in somewhere, and become an MD, and prove yourself to be a competent doctor - and that's all you really care about, right? Because, if I read your post correctly, it shouldn't matter where one goes to school. And besides, because you are special and inwardly motivated, it won't matter where you go to school.

1. Who are you to say that you have more "inward motivation" and are more intrinsically capable and more likely to be a competent doctor relative to your peers? You have no experience in medicine, save for maybe some volunteer work. You haven't really been tested in that arena.

2. While the admissions process is about numbers, they also take a holistic approach to reviewing applications: trends in GPA, extracurriculars, life experiences, etc. If you have a great story to tell, it will come through in the interview process, your personal statement, and on your activities as listed on AMCAS. The system really isn't that flawed - more often than not, those who deserve to get into medical school will get into medical school.
 
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But let's look at this from a different angle. Take my story, im not writing this for some pity "awww poor you" response, or "don't worry about it, you'll get in" response. There are several others out there like me, and im stating this for the sole purpose of showing a flaw in the system. My cGPA is a 3.3, I had a 2.8 in my first two years of undergraduate where I didn't care, worked at a hospital, saw what medicine was about, and then got a 4.0 in my last two years, with a 38S MCAT. There are several stories like mine out there, and I think that people who did poorly, then "woke up" later have a solid understanding of what to sacrifice, what it takes, and the will to succeed. If I had gotten a consistent 3.8 my entire undergraduate, I don't think I would fully appreciate why I was working so hard beyond the fact that med schools need to see a high GPA.

You said this back in 5/3/10:

"^ Yes it is, and yes I do.

Two years, and my cGPA is 2.73 lol…..wow i think epic fail sums it up pretty nicely.

What I need to know is that should I slog for 2 years more (possibly an extra semester depending on how bad my gpa is) aim to get a 4.0, ace my MCAT (im realistic about that not happening) and apply for MD just for the hell of it?

Should I look into Carribean schools?

Should I apply DO?

Or, should I just settle for Burger King and the wonderful of fry-making business (I don't think my GPA is good enough for Taco Bell lol)?

And im pretty sure my situation is no longer consistent with that avatar, but w/e Timon is awesome. "

Unless you took 2 years worth of classes in 3 months and also wrote the MCAT, then you don't have the stats that you claim you have.

Come back and ask this question when you actually have attained 2 years of 4.0, received a 38S on your MCAT and applied to medical school, but didn't get in anywhere.

You made a topic complaining about you're grades a couple of weeks ago too, titled "rejected". Instead of trolling and complaining about the system and making up excuses to justify your poor grades, start studying and use your actions to convince medical schools why they should consider you.
 
And this is why I didn't go to SIU even though it was my second choice.

You really have no excuse. You went to a party school, where many of your classmates don't care and slack... so you felt like you could slack your first two years too. I would have felt that way also attending there. But there is also strong willed people at SIU who don't let their peers stop them from achieving their dreams and continue to get good grades (even when the student and the professor are the only one who even bothered to read/do the assigned homework). Don't try to say going to SIU will put you at a disadvantage applying to medical school -- you did.

Congrats for improving your GPA and not dropping out of SIU. You still have a chance at medical school so don't count yourself out.
 
Can't say that I disagree emphatically with anything you said, but I also don't feel terribly enlightened. Thanks for sharing! 😀
 
Wait a second - I just read OP's post history. Three months ago, he was a sophomore with a cGPA of 2.7.

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First of all, you say "I'm not whining or complaining" enough to make it painfully obvious that you are in fact doing both of those. How about suggesting a reasonable alternative to the current system... sounds like you'd like it to be an essay contest - not sure how many people will think that's reasonable/reliable
 
You said this back in 5/3/10:

"^ Yes it is, and yes I do.

Two years, and my cGPA is 2.73 lol…..wow i think epic fail sums it up pretty nicely.

What I need to know is that should I slog for 2 years more (possibly an extra semester depending on how bad my gpa is) aim to get a 4.0, ace my MCAT (im realistic about that not happening) and apply for MD just for the hell of it?

Should I look into Carribean schools?

Should I apply DO?

Or, should I just settle for Burger King and the wonderful of fry-making business (I don't think my GPA is good enough for Taco Bell lol)?

And im pretty sure my situation is no longer consistent with that avatar, but w/e Timon is awesome. "

Unless you took 2 years worth of classes in 3 months and also wrote the MCAT, then you don't have the stats that you claim you have.

Come back and ask this question when you actually have attained 2 years of 4.0, received a 38S on your MCAT and applied to medical school, but didn't get in anywhere.

You made a topic complaining about you're grades a couple of weeks ago too, titled "rejected". Instead of trolling and complaining about the system and making up excuses to justify your poor grades, start studying and use your actions to convince medical schools why they should consider you.

if i were to create a high fictional mcat score for myself, i would go with at least a 44, why sell yourself short, OP?
 
I would like to be a fly on the wall in that interview lol

Interviewer: "How do you feel about the application process?"
Him: "Well.... *gives his speech* "

Have you applied? If not, shut up already.

Come back in May and tell us what happened through your interview cycle.
 
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You just have to play the game. Any alternatives would have similar or greater flaws. The system that currently exists does the best that it can to choose the best potential doctors.
 
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The fact that ssdk was able to dig up an old post of the OP that renders his claims false is remarkably embarassing.

Heres some advice OP - stop being a bitter-goud.

You have the sense of entitlement written all over your post.

This ought to cheer you up though, a 2.4gpa/41MCAT indian immigrant now a successful Radiologist tells his life story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrdwhXNt4qw&feature=related
 
First of all, you say "I'm not whining or complaining" enough to make it painfully obvious that you are in fact doing both of those. How about suggesting a reasonable alternative to the current system... sounds like you'd like it to be an essay contest - not sure how many people will think that's reasonable/reliable

Its like when you post " I dont mean to be a dick...but," and then proceed to be a dick haha.

OP I graduated undergrad with a far ****tier GPA then you. I rocked a masters with almost a perfect GPA and got into med school. STFU and do something about your GPA. Bitching on SDN isnt going to make it go away.
 
Getting into medical school is different from getting into any other professional school because being a doctor is different than any other kind of profession out there. Being a doctor places a sense of responsibility that transcends the kind of work any other profession will require. No one is going to die if they lose revenue, no one is going to die if their experiment fails, or if they lose a court case. That kind of assurance isn't prevalent in this field because if a doctor makes a mistake, the patient may very well die.

Your aspiration to practice medicine is making you foolish. Lots of people in lots of different professions can let someone (or many someones) die by screwing up. Just to name a few, firefighters, architects, automobile designers, police officers, soldiers, nuclear power plant operators, farm workers, airplane pilots, and electric company workers all have lives depending on them. I could keep going with this list. Being a doctor may be a noble calling, but it is by no means the only profession with lives depending on it. To say that it is makes you sound clueless.
 
Owned.

You said this back in 5/3/10:

"^ Yes it is, and yes I do.

Two years, and my cGPA is 2.73 lol…..wow i think epic fail sums it up pretty nicely.

What I need to know is that should I slog for 2 years more (possibly an extra semester depending on how bad my gpa is) aim to get a 4.0, ace my MCAT (im realistic about that not happening) and apply for MD just for the hell of it?

Should I look into Carribean schools?

Should I apply DO?

Or, should I just settle for Burger King and the wonderful of fry-making business (I don't think my GPA is good enough for Taco Bell lol)?

And im pretty sure my situation is no longer consistent with that avatar, but w/e Timon is awesome. "

Unless you took 2 years worth of classes in 3 months and also wrote the MCAT, then you don't have the stats that you claim you have.

Come back and ask this question when you actually have attained 2 years of 4.0, received a 38S on your MCAT and applied to medical school, but didn't get in anywhere.

You made a topic complaining about you're grades a couple of weeks ago too, titled "rejected". Instead of trolling and complaining about the system and making up excuses to justify your poor grades, start studying and use your actions to convince medical schools why they should consider you.
 
The system is fine. It is the applicants who are flawed.

For instance, the OP...
 
Its like when you post " I dont mean to be a dick...but," and then proceed to be a dick haha.

OP I graduated undergrad with a far ****tier GPA then you. I rocked a masters with almost a perfect GPA and got into med school. STFU and do something about your GPA. Bitching on SDN isnt going to make it go away.

Owned.

Go away Tompi90

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You said this back in 5/3/10:

"^ Yes it is, and yes I do.

Two years, and my cGPA is 2.73 lol…..wow i think epic fail sums it up pretty nicely.

What I need to know is that should I slog for 2 years more (possibly an extra semester depending on how bad my gpa is) aim to get a 4.0, ace my MCAT (im realistic about that not happening) and apply for MD just for the hell of it?

Should I look into Carribean schools?

Should I apply DO?

Or, should I just settle for Burger King and the wonderful of fry-making business (I don't think my GPA is good enough for Taco Bell lol)?

And im pretty sure my situation is no longer consistent with that avatar, but w/e Timon is awesome. "

Unless you took 2 years worth of classes in 3 months and also wrote the MCAT, then you don't have the stats that you claim you have.

Come back and ask this question when you actually have attained 2 years of 4.0, received a 38S on your MCAT and applied to medical school, but didn't get in anywhere.

You made a topic complaining about you're grades a couple of weeks ago too, titled "rejected". Instead of trolling and complaining about the system and making up excuses to justify your poor grades, start studying and use your actions to convince medical schools why they should consider you.
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I don't understand? You blame ADCOMS for only looking at those four factors. Those are obviously the major factors as you have stated, but after that they look at other things you have done. You have a great MCAT score and decent GPA, you can probably get accepted at a number of places. Though, the way you describe doctors to be responsible and mature, I don't think you can succeed with your bitchy attitude. Just my opinion on this, don't take it too hard.
 
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Gooooo Salukis!

Two pieces of advice:

1.) Stop whining and just apply. If you actually are at SIU, Carbondale is chock full of opportunities to get experience working with people who can use some help, and it'll give you a little taste of the real world which should thereby give you some perspective on this whole process.

2.) Don't take Gail Robinson too seriously if she's discouraging you. Apply broadly and jump through the proverbial hoops and you'll do just fine. Haters gonna hate, know what I mean?
 
holy crap this thread is so funny
 
I'm not sure what you want medical schools to look at... how else can they tell if you are academically prepared without looking at your MCAT and GPA. How else can they tell if you understand what it means to be a doctor without looking at your extracurriculars?

Medical schools do look at trends... sure they may like the person with 4 years of 4.0 better than the one with the last two... the four years show self motivation and consistency. However the latter one is not out of the race... how can you complain about others who put in the effort long before you did? it's completely your fault and you CAN fix it...
 
I'm not sure what you want medical schools to look at... how else can they tell if you are academically prepared without looking at your MCAT and GPA. How else can they tell if you understand what it means to be a doctor without looking at your extracurriculars?

Medical schools do look at trends... sure they may like the person with 4 years of 4.0 better than the one with the last two... the four years show self motivation and consistency. However the latter one is not out of the race... how can you complain about others who put in the effort long before you did? it's completely your fault and you CAN fix it...

EDIT: That was a typo, and I wish SDN had a way of going back and fixing those older posts. I meant I want to get a 4.0 for the next two years, with a 38S MCAT……

1) I never said GPA and MCAT aren't important, the point is that it shouldn't transcend factors such as motivation and character, which it does.

2) People like me are out of the race for the majority of the medical schools. I don't care about getting into HMS, I would be happy with any type of admission but the point is, that those kinds of schools inherently prefer the "typical" candidate, and the a-typical ones aren't even considered.
 
Someone should write a rant about how tompi90 is an idiot.
 
EDIT: That was a typo, and I wish SDN had a way of going back and fixing those older posts. I meant I want to get a 4.0 for the next two years, with a 38S MCAT……

1) I never said GPA and MCAT aren't important, the point is that it shouldn't transcend factors such as motivation and character, which it does.

2) People like me are out of the race for the majority of the medical schools. I don't care about getting into HMS, I would be happy with any type of admission but the point is, that those kinds of schools inherently prefer the "typical" candidate, and the a-typical ones aren't even considered.


I'm not sure where you're getting your information, but most of it isn't even true. GPA and MCAT are important in getting an interview, but if you don't show up to the interview with confidence and well-thought out answers, you could have a 4.0 and a 40 MCAT and not get in. And your comment about atypical candidates is off base as well. Every year people get accepted to medical school with lower grades and lower scores because they have more experience than people with better scores. Your comments about grades and test scores may have been true 20 years ago, but the fact is that it's 2010. Most schools do look at your whole application, and if they like something on it, you can get an acceptance without having stellar scores.
 
My god, you've solved the admissions process. Please do world hunger next.

If you are successful with world hunger, I think you'll have a shot at any med school you want...

Have you applied? If not, shut up already.

Come back in May and tell us what happened through your interview cycle.

I've never seen LizzyM negative towards anyone before. Way to go OP for pissing off our resident expert!

EDIT: That was a typo, and I wish SDN had a way of going back and fixing those older posts. I meant I want to get a 4.0 for the next two years, with a 38S MCAT……

1) I never said GPA and MCAT aren't important, the point is that it shouldn't transcend factors such as motivation and character, which it does.

2) People like me are out of the race for the majority of the medical schools. I don't care about getting into HMS, I would be happy with any type of admission but the point is, that those kinds of schools inherently prefer the "typical" candidate, and the a-typical ones aren't even considered.

And those types of schools can have anyone they want. So if they want the "typical" candidates, so be it. GO find a school that wants the type of person you are... erm... if that is possible.
 
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Getting into medical school is different from getting into any other professional school because being a doctor is different than any other kind of profession out there. Being a doctor places a sense of responsibility that transcends the kind of work any other profession will require. No one is going to die if they lose revenue, no one is going to die if their experiment fails, or if they lose a court case. That kind of assurance isn't prevalent in this field because if a doctor makes a mistake, the patient may very well die.
LOL. Stop worshiping physicians.

If a meteorologist predicts the wrong area for a tornado touchdown, people may die and have died. If drugs aren't properly tested people will die and have died. If politicians make wrong decisions, people will die and have died. Physicians aren't the only ones who are responsible for keeping people alive nor are they the only ones who can make mistakes that result in life being lost.
 
i feel like lizzym is much saucier now than when i first lurked/joined.

I think she's realized that she's got free reign here, and I think this is how she unwinds after going through admissions crap.

I don't mind. We get more stories from her this way! And more examples of her rapier wit. 😍
 
If you are successful with world hunger, I think you'll have a shot at any med school you want...



I've never seen LizzyM negative towards anyone before. Way to go OP for pissing off our resident expert!



And those types of schools can have anyone they want. So if they want the "typical" candidates, so be it. GO find a school that wants the type of person you are... erm... if that is possible.


Oh boohoo im sure LizzyM will live through it, she is after all the "resident expert".

And thats the point, the admissions process is too narrow minded. The only way of actually expressing yourself on the application is the essay and the interview, but that doesn't even really matter when your "numbers" aren't solid because thats the view that society has for doctors. Of course, being academically capable is important, but there are other things that are also important like I said earlier that don't get the same weight as your scoresm which really should. You can't find anyone with less than 3.4 gpa at the top 20 schools who isn't a URM or who wasn't in the army for like 8 years. Thats the point im trying to make.
 
Being a doctor places a sense of responsibility that transcends the kind of work any other profession will require. No one is going to die if they lose revenue, no one is going to die if their experiment fails, or if they lose a court case.

Really? So no one can die if someone loses a court case? Ask the inmates on death row if they agree with that. Ask Terry Schiavo. You don't think that lawyers who work on these types of cases have responsibility? Yeah, you're right that they aren't the ones looking after the medical care of their clients, but they're looking after their legal needs. Consider the fact that without the legal framework that exists in this country (Constitution, common law, etc.) you wouldn't be applying to medical school or posting in this forum.

The business example is also a bit ridiculous. Yes, no one dies IMMEDIATELY from someone making poor decisions that reduce revenue, but people's lives can still be dramatically affected by a CEO's management (or mismanagement) of a company. And the CEO is in fact the best comparison to use because the CEO is the head of the company. Similarly, the doctor is the head of the medical team.

Look, I appreciate that medicine is indeed DIFFERENT from any other fields, but I think that your trivialization of other fields (including law) is rather insulting.
 
LOL. Stop worshiping physicians.

If a meteorologist predicts the wrong area for a tornado touchdown, people may die and have died. If drugs aren't properly tested people will die and have died. If politicians make wrong decisions, people will die and have died. Physicians aren't the only ones who are responsible for keeping people alive nor are they the only ones who can make mistakes that result in life being lost.

True, but the room for error is much less in the medical field. If your doing a heart surgery, the slightest miscalculation could be very costly, unlike a tornado watch, or drafting a new bill.
 
True, but the room for error is much less in the medical field. If your doing a heart surgery, the slightest miscalculation could be very costly, unlike a tornado watch, or drafting a new bill.

If a truck driver miscalculates a turn, he can take out a dozen pedestrians. Not a lot of room for error there, either.

Just saaaaaaayin'.

Oh, and I would say :troll: , but I love these sorts of threads, so by all means - please do!
 
P.S. O.P.

You have a 3.3 cGPA and a 38 MCAT and didn't get into a single MD school? Did you get any interviews? Pretty shocking if you applied early enough. That combo would make you competitive at more than a few low-mid tier schools I think, especially with the incredibly strong upward trend.
 
Yes the pressure of turning a truck, and doing a heart surgery is exactly the same. Damn I didn't know being a heart surgeon would be that easy.
 
Yes the pressure of turning a truck, and doing a heart surgery is exactly the same. Damn I didn't know being a heart surgeon would be that easy.

How about fighter pilots?
 
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