Would I be safe?

[Japie]

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[Bis-GMA111]

safe?

well, you're certainly not going to be a victim of prejudice (on a large scale) if that's what you're getting at. from what i understand these schools aren't extremely religious. these schools have all sorts of minorities and even non-christian students.

i wouldn't worry about it at all, really.

 

[433439]

They cannot / will not deny you based on your religion. That would be racist and breaking the law. And by safe, of course you are. What year do you think this is, 1960?

 

[Japie]

safe?

well, you're certainly not going to be a victim of prejudice (on a large scale) if that's what you're getting at. from what i understand these schools aren't extremely religious. these schools have all sorts of minorities and even non-christian students.

i wouldn't worry about it at all, really.

k

 

[Japie]

They cannot / will not deny you based on your religion. That would be racist and breaking the law. And by safe, of course you are. What year do you think this is, 1960?

I know it's 2012, but some people like to hold on to the past. You never know right...

 

[433439]

I know it's 2012, but some people like to hold on to the past. You never know right...

All the uncomfortability you are experiencing is in your head. They're not going to put out some bounty on you just because of your religion. I mean, there are caucasians who go to Meharry and Howard University (although a VERY small percentage), and I don't think they're scared to go to class just because they are now the minority in school. It's just breaking out of your comfort zone.

 

[Japie]

All the uncomfortability you are experiencing is in your head. They're not going to put out some bounty on you just because of your religion. I mean, there are caucasians who go to Meharry and Howard University (although a VERY small percentage), and I don't think they're scared to go to class just because they are now the minority in school. It's just breaking out of your comfort zone.

Thanks

 

[thyagar3]

Thanks for the input!


I guess my concern would be similar for instance to this. Imagine if, the klu klux klan created a dental school and imagine that I were of African descent. With the understanding that this situation may be very similar, would you then be concern?

Thanks!

P.S. if I am at all upsetting you with this, please understand that I appreciate your points entirely.

.................😕. I really hope you are more careful with what you say/ask in person than you do on here, you won't last a minute in the dental field with these kind of head turning questions and statements.

 

[Japie]

.................😕. I really hope you are more careful with what you say/ask in person than you do on here, you won't last a minute in the dental field with these kind of head turning questions and statements.

Thanks

 

[Polk]

They cannot / will not deny you based on your religion. That would be racist and breaking the law. And by safe, of course you are. What year do you think this is, 1960?

Is religion a race?

 

[thyagar3]

please explain, I value a good argument but highlighting "Imagine if, the klu klux klan created a dental school and imagine that I were of African descent." means nothing. 😉

I made a clear and non-derogatory analogy, where did I go wrong?

Thanks

I mean I guess you can really ask/say anything on these forums since we are anonymous but I can't imagine any dental health care provider saying stuff like this and the post above saying "They have killed many people like me in the most gruesome of ways."

 

[Japie]

h

 

[Japie]

I mean I guess you can really ask/say anything on these forums since we are anonymous but I can't imagine any dental health care provider saying stuff like this and the post above saying "They have killed many people like me in the most gruesome of ways."

facts?

 

[Polk]

ANALOGY
a form of reasoning in which one thing is inferred to be similar to another thing in a certain respect, on the basis of the known similarity between the things in other respects.

- sorry to those that that already knew this

No, that was not intended as an analogy.

I only pointed out the mistake because I believe precision is important, especially in our future profession.

I hope that when I make mistakes someone will point them out to me. How else can I improve?

 

[goffdent]

you are not serious right? Because like you said... that's seventeenth century. it's 21st century now... Do yo honestly think 22 year old jesuits feel like torturing their fellow classmates who aren't of similar religion? I guarantee MOST of the students don't know/ remember anything they learned from church unless they are in a bible study right now. Also, anybody can go there, so not likely a ton of torture-loving students. The only reason I would be worried is if my friend "doc" invented a time machine back in the 17th century, and I came forward in time to the present not knowing if the same persecution was still around. This is america, not the middle east. YOu won't have a problem. I would be more worried about the neighborhoods around the school.. haha

 

[Japie]

No, that was not intended as an analogy.

I only pointed out the mistake because I believe precision is important, especially in our future profession.

I hope that when I make mistakes someone will point them out to me. How else can I improve?

hey, sorry I didn' t read the post right the first time.

 

[thyagar3]

]you are not serious right? [/B]Because like you said... that's seventeenth century. it's 21st century now... Do yo honestly think 22 year old jesuits feel like torturing their fellow classmates who aren't of similar religion? I guarantee MOST of the students don't know/ remember anything they learned from church unless they are in a bible study right now. Also, anybody can go there, so not likely a ton of torture-loving students. The only reason I would be worried is if my friend "doc" invented a time machine back in the 17th century, and I came forward in time to the present not knowing if the same persecution was still around. This is america, not the middle east. YOu won't have a problem. I would be more worried about the neighborhoods around the school.. haha

Thank you.

 

[Japie]

you are not serious right? Because like you said... that's seventeenth century. it's 21st century now... Do yo honestly think 22 year old jesuits feel like torturing their fellow classmates who aren't of similar religion? I guarantee MOST of the students don't know/ remember anything they learned from church unless they are in a bible study right now. Also, anybody can go there, so not likely a ton torture loving students. The only reason I would be worried is if my friend "doc" invented a time machine back in the 17th century, and I came forward in time to the present not knowing if the same persecution was still around. This is america, not the middle east. YOu won't have a problem.

hey thanks for the input!
I don't mean the students though, you are right about them.They are unlikely to hold such beliefs. I mean the organization sponsoring the institution - in light of this specification I think "thyagar3" would better understand my analogy

Just to add to this, I don't think the US is any more immune to this kind of discrimination or persecution than the middle east. I just think that America is far more subtle about it (by the way this is something that I would keep to myself in a personal setting, due to its subjective nature)

 

[Japie]

Thank you.

😛

 

[goffdent]

it's not like marquette makes their students pray everyday before class. it's a jesuit founded university, other than that.. you have the option to be whoever/whatever you want. If i remember correctly, they even have for ex: a lutheran pastor on campus for that religion if you're involved.

Yes, I agree that America is more subtle about religion than the middle east, but i disagree with you that the US is not less immune to discrimination. I think it's a matter of Americans not caring what religion other people are in and accepting the fact that other people believe in other things. That's the point of this country. I don't think Americans in general have as strong of religous beliefs as middle easterners (a very bad and vague generality i know...), and americans aren't likely to go to war with their own citizens because of religous differences. This country just doesn't care about it like others do. Christianity, the main religion of the USA does not approve of killing (it's a sin).. you're not going to get priests, pastors, reverends... etc. to say "go slotter the jewish or muslims, they're on our parking lot!!" Understand what i'm trying to get at?

 

[Japie]

it's not like marquette makes their students pray everyday before class. it's a jesuit founded university, other than that.. you have the option to be whoever/whatever you want. If i remember correctly, they even have for ex: a lutheran pastor on campus for that religion if you're involved.

Yes, I agree that America is more subtle about religion than the middle east, but i disagree with you that the US is not less immune to discrimination. I think it's a matter of Americans not caring what religion other people are in and accepting the fact that other people believe in other things. That's the point of this country. I don't think Americans in general have as strong of religous beliefs as middle easterners (a very bad and vague generality i know...), and americans aren't likely to go to war with their own citizens because of religous differences. This country just doesn't care about it like others do. Christianity, the main religion of the USA does not approve of killing (it's a sin).. you're not going to get priests, pastors, reverends... etc. to say "go slotter the jewish or muslims, they're on our parking lot!!" Understand what i'm trying to get at?

I appreciate your response, as well as the thoughtfulness that you have incorporated into your argument.

 

[dentrx]

Really? Where are you from?

 

[Japie]

Really? Where are you from?

who

 

[dentrx]

What country? None of those schools or anybody that goes to them cares what religon you are.

 

[Japie]

What country? None of those schools or anybody that goes to them cares what religon you are.

I live in California...

In general you are right, but the founders of the institution are unique.

 

[dentrx]

The founders died a while ago. So you'll be fine.

 

[Japie]

The founders died a while ago. So you'll be fine.

... John Hanson died, but we still have American Presidents...

 

[goffdent]

The founders died a while ago. So you'll be fine.

lol..... exactly.. making mountains out of less than mole hills.

 

[goffdent]

Yes, their are also still neo-nazi skin heads, KKK members.. but they aren't going through neighborhoods hanging people and burning crosses in their yards.. we have laws, strict ones at that.. which discourage such acts now.

 

[scarshapedstar]

As a lapsed Catholic I feel pretty confident in saying that you will not be burned at the stake by the Inquisition.

Unless you're a woman using birth control, in which case all bets are off... 🙄

 

[goffdent]

I can't believe I've commented as much as I have on this topic.... You should be more worried about pharmacology, occlusion, board exams, even the hamburgler stealing your dinner than this..

 

[yellowishbluish]

say i was a fabled modern day hardcore jesuit zealot hatemonger

there'd be a long list of heathens and more wrong religions nowadays to get through before i dole out my hate on another christian

but if you're that uncomfortable about it you should probably go somewhere else

you're more than likely "safe", but in the off chance that you aren't, i wouldn't want the guilt of nudging you to the direction of the school and also TO YOUR DOOM

 

[dentrx]

You will be alot safer on campus than you will in the surrounding community at those schools.

 

[scarshapedstar]

You will be alot safer on campus than you will in the surrounding community at those schools.

I pity the foo' who moves to Detroit and thinks his biggest problem is the albino from The Da Vinci Code.

 

[cdbebeau]

 

[Japie]

I pity the foo' who moves to Detroit and thinks his biggest problem is the albino from The Da Vinci Code.

lol. yeah I've never been there but I've heard Detroit's pretty rough

 

[jeffity]

Perhaps we should be worried about the safety of all the other students at Creighton, Detroit Mercy, and Marquette with you there. The level of paranoia and extremism is a little unsettling.

Do yourself a favor and make sure to not let an ounce of this seep into your personal statement or interview.

 

[Japie]

Perhaps we should be worried about the safety of all the other students at Creighton, Detroit Mercy, and Marquette with you there. The level of paranoia and extremism is a little unsettling.

Do yourself a favor and make sure to not let an ounce of this seep into your personal statement or interview.

h

 

[scarshapedstar]

haha I'm not saying that this what I believe, but it is pretty interesting and it seems to fit quite well with world leadership. Personally, I don't think these things matter because if they are indeed true then there is nothing we can really do about it. And if they aren't, there's nothing to do, right? 🙄

Did you hand me a Chick tract once? 😎

 

[Japie]

Did you hand me a Chick tract once? 😎

No, I've never heard of that. But interesting.😉

 

[MOUTHLOVER]

WOAH! 😱

 

[Bereno]

It seems like the OP is trolling... This seems even more like the case after he posted that video. I say stop trying to stir up a bees nest. 🙂

 

[dentrx]

Bereno How did you not get into the UW? Whats up with them?

 

[Bereno]

Bereno How did you not get into the UW? Whats up with them?

I do not have the qualities they are looking for. Simple as that lol

PM me if you have more questions so that we can keep this thread on topic. 🙂

 

[dentite1127]

I do not have the qualities they are looking for. Simple as that lol

PM me if you have more questions so that we can keep this thread on topic. 🙂

Yes, please don't damage the integrity of this thread!