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[Columbia22]

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I spoke to an admissions officer today at a lower-tier MD school in the Northeast who informed me that med schools across the country have received a record number of applications thus far...he went on to add further that those who took the August MCAT will not be considered for admission this year due to the influx of those who were smart enough to take it in April....DO anyone??

 

[exmike]

b.s.

Originally posted by Columbia22
I spoke to an admissions officer today at a lower-tier MD school in the Northeast who informed me that med schools across the country have received a record number of applications thus far...he went on to add further that those who took the August MCAT will not be considered for admission this year due to the influx of those who were smart enough to take it in April....DO anyone??

 

[Gleevec]

Originally posted by Columbia22
he went on to add further that those who took the August MCAT will not be considered for admission this year due to the influx of those who were smart enough to take it in April....DO anyone??

I am skeptical that a med school dean would admit this to a student, and even more skeptical that a dean would say that students who took the MCAT in august "werent as smart as the april mcaters". I find this hard to believe quite honestly. This appears to be misinformation.

But in the 1% chance that it is not,
I would imagine the policy of not taking August MCATers is specific to their school and not to 99% of US Medical schools. Perhaps this school you are referring to simply lacks the budget, resources, and staff to sift through all these applications.

If I were an August MCATer I wouldnt worry, almost every other school, including just about any top or mid tier school, has the resources to evaluate all applications.

So pretty much this is BS, or it applies to one school in the US. In any case, nothing to worry about.

 

[thackl]

Sounds like crap to me. Maybe he's referring to this one school.

 

[Alexander99]

Originally posted by Columbia22
I spoke to an admissions officer today at a lower-tier MD school in the Northeast who informed me that med schools across the country have received a record number of applications thus far...he went on to add further that those who took the August MCAT will not be considered for admission this year due to the influx of those who were smart enough to take it in April....DO anyone??

Do you really think anyone would be foolish enough to believe what you just said? First of all, your statement about there being a record number of applicants is an obvious lie. The record number of applicants occured in 1996. There were 46,965 applicants that year. Since then, there has been a significant annual decrease in applicant numbers with only 33,625 applicants in 2002. See:

http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/famg12002a.htm

It's true there is an increase in applicants this year but it's not very much. How do we know? There was only a ~3% increase in the number of people taking the MCAT in 2003. If only a few more people took the MCAT, it's impossible that an extra 13,000 people are applying this year. How can they do that without taking the test?

Second, assuming hypothetically that what you said is true (that there are an extra 13,000 applicants this year that didn't have to take the MCAT), all schools state that they suggest taking the April MCAT but August is the latest score they will accept. If they automatically deny everyone that took the August test, they are breaking their policy and can get in trouble since everyone that's applying is paying money with the understanding that their application has a legitimate chance.

I suggest you stop trying to make other people worry simply because it's obvious you are worried about your own chances of getting in. I'm sure when you don't get in, your first excuse will be, "It's because there were a record number of applicants this year." It's pretty sad if the only positive aspect of your application is that you took the April MCAT.

 

[Gleevec]

Originally posted by Alexander99
Do you really think anyone would be foolish enough to believe what you just said? First of all, your statement about there being a record number of applicants is an obvious lie. The record number of applicants occured in 1996. There were 46,965 applicants that year. Since then, there has been a significant annual decrease in applicant numbers with only 33,625 applicants in 2002. See:

http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/famg12002a.htm

It's true there is an increase in applicants this year but it's not very much. How do we know? There was only a ~3% increase in the number of people taking the MCAT in 2003. If only a few more people took the MCAT, it's impossible that an extra 13,000 people are applying this year. How can they do that without taking the test?

Second, assuming hypothetically that what you said is true (that there are an extra 13,000 applicants this year that didn't have to take the MCAT), all schools state that they suggest taking the April MCAT but August is the latest score they will accept. If they automatically deny everyone that took the August test, they are breaking their policy and can get in trouble since everyone that's applying is paying money with the understanding that their application has a legitimate chance.

I suggest you stop trying to make other people worry simply because it's obvious you are worried about your own chances of getting in. I'm sure when you don't get in, your first excuse will be, "It's because there were a record number of applicants this year."

Great analysis =)

 

[Columbia22]

I actually took the MCAT in August dikwad

 

[MeowMix]

so what? even if this adcom person is totally truthful about that school, are you going to sit around and worry about the consequences? this is not worth devoting your time and energy to worrying about; put them to better use.

I would be arrogant enough to think, yeah, sucks for everyone else, but I'm so great that they are going to make an exception for me.

 

[Alexander99]

Originally posted by Columbia22
I actually took the MCAT in August dikwad

Believe me. When you get rejected by the schools you applied to, it <b>WON'T</b> be because you took the MCAT in August.

 

[pinfeathers6]

for Alex99 and Gleevec:

I don't see how Columbia's comment/question to start off this topic warranted the kind of personal attacks that are being aimed at her/him. You'd best learn to take your frustrations out in another way -- not on people who are going through the same tough journey you are. I hope you dont consider yourselves compassionate, empathic or cooperative, because your very choice to share information in the WAY you have shared it above demonstrates the very opposite! It's REALLY disgusting!

 

[Alexander99]

Originally posted by pinfeathers6
for Alex99 and Gleevec:

I don't see how Columbia's comment/question to start off this topic warranted the kind of personal attacks that are being aimed at her/him. You'd best learn to take your frustrations out in another way -- not on people who are going through the same tough journey you are. I hope you dont consider yourselves compassionate, empathic or cooperative, because your very choice to share information in the WAY you have shared it above demonstrates the very opposite! It's REALLY disgusting!

Columbia22 is trying to spread an obvious lie. Read my earlier post which basically proves what he or she is saying is not true. Columbia's only possible motivation for spreading misinformation is to make others worry.

With his or her response of calling me "dikwad," I think it's pretty clear we're dealing with a person that has problems. I feel my response was 100% justified. Being a good doctor requires being compassionate. It does not require being a pushover or sitting around while people are doing obvious wrong.

Alexander

 

[Gleevec]

Originally posted by pinfeathers6
for Alex99 and Gleevec:

I don't see how Columbia's comment/question to start off this topic warranted the kind of personal attacks that are being aimed at her/him. You'd best learn to take your frustrations out in another way -- not on people who are going through the same tough journey you are. I hope you dont consider yourselves compassionate, empathic or cooperative, because your very choice to share information in the WAY you have shared it above demonstrates the very opposite! It's REALLY disgusting!

Personal attacks? I only responded in kind to being called a "dikwad" in association with Alexander99. Perhaps you should read the thread entirely before making a judgement call.

And frankly, you are in no position at all to judge anyone's personality. Frustrations? This simply has to do with the fact that Columbia's post is designed to scare other premeds. If Alexander and I showing that 1) Columbia is lying or 2) that the dean he talked to is the exception (and perhaps the only med school in the country that would do such a thing) rather than the rule for all August MCATers, and thus this thread shouldnt worry anyone, troubles you, then don't read it.

The fact that you are supporting this BS that will perhaps scare August MCATers further shows that YOU need to learn to be "compassionate, empathic or cooperative". Since you are so supportive of scaring SDNers based on hearsay , perhaps it is YOU who needs to stop being so protective of those individuals who unnecessarily bother others.

The fact is, you dont know if Columbia is telling the truth or not. Nor do we, and I gave my analysis on why it doesnt matter either way. And frankly, your own post is a personal attack as well, and I don't appreciate it at all, considering that I (along with Alexander) am merely trying to put August MCATers minds at ease. Finally, Columbia disses DO, showing misguided hubris on his own part.

In any case, pinfeathers6, your personal attack on us is not appreciated. The fact that he called Alexander a "dikwad" is not deserving of sympathy, and the fact that you condone the spread of misinformation (regardless of the source) is extremely troubling. I believe it is you, pinfeathers6, who is the hypocrite in this case, and frankly, its quite disgusting.

 

[NotShorty]

BS


and **** yourself for considering osteopathic second-rate.

 

[peterockduke]

pinfeathers6 - soapbox mode OFF!

The original poster is being trollish and trying to exacerbate already frazzled nerves. Honestly, it's a pretty far fetched thing to say (and obviously untrue), but it's also somewhat cruel. They are criticizing someone who is trolling this board and unfairly taking advantage of people's emotions.

Honestly, if I hadn't gotten my first interview today to my top chioce (WAHOO SHAMELESS PLUG!), the original post would make me feel rather crappy.

Rule of thumb - don't feed the trolls....
and don't build a fence around the bridge they live under

 

[Gleevec]

pinfeathers6:

Here are some examples of Columbia's posts. This is the individual you are defending so adamantly, to such a degree that you bring into question the VERY MORAL BEING of two individuals on this board. I hope this will let you understand the type of individual you are supporting to such an extent as to insult me in the most heinous way:

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=85169

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=77309

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=76746

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=76651

So based on his history of joking/sarcasm, I hope you realize that he was just trying to scare August MCATers. And that Alexander and I were simply trying to ease some tense nerves by showing how what columbia said is other nonsense. This is a case where if no one had replied to the thread, a few nervous individuals might have believed this lie, which is why we responded in the first place.

Wow, I read your post again pinfeather, and I am ever MORE insulted now. Your overzealous moralizing over such a trivial thing is really distressing, and you need to learn to be more tolerant of others... especially when they are trying to HELP people out.

 

[1996]

Maybe Columbia is refering to the Cleveland Clinic Lerner College of Medicine. I'm sure they have a record number of applicants this year, since their previous record was a big, fat ZERO.

(Disclaimer: I'm just kidding. Please don't scold me 🙁 )

 

[Gleevec]

Originally posted by 1996
Maybe Columbia is refering to the Cleveland Clinic Lerner College of Medicine. I'm sure they have a record number of applicants this year, since their previous record was a big, fat ZERO.

(Disclaimer: I'm just kidding. Please don't scold me 🙁 )

😛

 

[doctorvenkman]

Just to totally kill this thread if it isn't dead already: I'm an August MCATer, and I just got my first interview.

 

[Gleevec]

Originally posted by doctorvenkman
Just to totally kill this thread if it isn't dead already: I'm an August MCATer, and I just got my first interview.

congrats!

See, nothing to worry about!

 

[pinfeathers6]

The fact that you are supporting this BS that will perhaps scare August MCATers further shows that YOU need to learn to be "compassionate, empathic or cooperative". Since you are so supportive of scaring SDNers based on hearsay , perhaps it is YOU who needs to stop being so protective of those individuals who unnecessarily bother others.

Now dont jump to conclusions. I dont see how me saying that you two were bullying Columbia = I agree with Columbia. That's a leap if you ask me. I agree that what he said sounded extreme and was probably at least interpretted incorrectly, but I couldnt see ANY reason for the ATTACKS that met his question! I dont need to explain to you how supportive I am of my fellow premeds -- the fact that I would leap in and raise a flag when it seemed like someone was being undeservedly attacked seems to indicate otherwise in and of itself. Because now, check it out -- I am the one who gets to be personally attacked! I hardly think that's an act that demonstrates a lack of compassion. But I admit that I leaped in uninformed -- I don't know anything about Columbia's posting history and I assumed his posting intentions were honest and for feedback. It is a typical premed attribute to be insecure -- a LOT of people post on this site, i am sure you have noticed, asking "what are my chances of this or that" or "how does it look if i do this or that". So I did not see his question as being anything more than a request for reassurance.

 

[pinfeathers6]

Oh yes i agree -- this thread deserves to die. I just wanted to clear that up. 🙂

 

[rager1]

Asystole.

Time of death <pause>...
<looks at watch>

23:09 CST.


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<Toyota Commercial>

 

[Gleevec]

Originally posted by pinfeathers6
Now dont jump to conclusions. I dont see how me saying that you two were bullying Columbia = I agree with Columbia. That's a leap if you ask me. I agree that what he said sounded extreme and was probably at least interpretted incorrectly, but I couldnt see ANY reason for the ATTACKS that met his question! I dont need to explain to you how supportive I am of my fellow premeds -- the fact that I would leap in and raise a flag when it seemed like someone was being undeservedly attacked seems to indicate otherwise in and of itself. Because now, check it out -- I am the one who gets to be personally attacked! I hardly think that's an act that demonstrates a lack of compassion. But I admit that I leaped in uninformed -- I don't know anything about Columbia's posting history and I assumed his posting intentions were honest and for feedback. It is a typical premed attribute to be insecure -- a LOT of people post on this site, i am sure you have noticed, asking "what are my chances of this or that" or "how does it look if i do this or that". So I did not see his question as being anything more than a request for reassurance.

In any case, this thread was not an attempt at self-affirmation or made to help out premeds on this board-- it was simply misinformation at best, and a heinous scare tactic at worst. At no point does Columbia ask for advice or help, he simply resorts to implying its time to get a DO (which he has in the past has implied is wholly inferior, another example of a falsehood).

This is the most dangerous type of troll -post, because its just feasible enough that a poor August MCATer might, in a state of worry, assume this information to be true. In this regard, it is the worst kind of lie to tell, and I find it hard to believe that you would support someone trying to scare other premeds as opposed to to those who would fall victim to this prank.

In any case, I am done with this thread. I think its been shown that the post is misinformation (at best) and a horrible lie aimed at stressing people out further (at worst). And frankly, I think its sad that you judge people so quickly and incorrectly pinfeathers, because to accuse Alexander and I of the things you did is beyond contemptable-- especially considering we were just trying to assuage the very fears that Columbia was propagating. I guess there will always be people who support the trolls efforts to scare genuine-hearted and stressed premeds, and there is nothing I can do about that except try to show the falsehoods being stated and accept the bashing that troll-supporters will levy on me.

I guess that's just life. Not going to stop me in any way though.

 

[Gleevec]

Originally posted by rager1
Asystole.

Time of death <pause>...
<looks at watch>

23:09 CST.


<ER splash screen>

<Toyota Commercial>

This thread was pronounced dead at 12:12 AM EST.

 

[TheFlash]

Columbia22 has been a troll ever since I started lurking sdn a year ago. Looks like things haven't changed a bit.

As far as the "record number of applications"-- I read some where that apps were supposed to climb by an astonishing 3% this year. Amazing, looks like nobody's going to have a snowball's chance in hell of getting in at least until 2010! 🙄

 

[gary5]

I took the August MCAT and spoke to an admissions Dean. She said I'd be fine in terms of timing.

 

[ItsGavinC]

NO, you don't understand. The thread has left the building.