Wow second year sucks

[sylvanthus]

To sum it up. Here are two books (Big Robbins and Cecil's) read these and pay us $40,000. Oh and we will have unreasonable quizzes specifically designed to trick you. Have fun.

Sorry, had to vent in a semi-anonymous environment.

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[MeRLin443]

To sum it up. Here are two books (Big Robbins and Cecil's) read these and pay us $40,000. Oh and we will have unreasonable quizzes specifically designed to trick you. Have fun.

Sorry, had to vent in a semi-anonymous environment.

I've missed all the "Hey guys- school sucks" posts that have been absent in this forum most of the summer. Misery doesn't just like company- it loves a whole party.

 

[coralfangs]

I kinda miss how much free time you get during 2nd year.
You know... sleep for 10 hrs a day, go to the bar down the street for a beer at night, chat with friends, etc....
Now I often wish I can just crawl into the patient's bed and take a quick catnap without them noticing.

 

[alwaysaangel]

Yeah 2nd year sucked...so I ended taking a prolonged vacation and then was really sad when boards came and 3 months of studying super sucked 🙁

It does feel like you have little guidance. Best thing I can say is take the guidance that you get!

We had path labs where they went through slides and reviewed details. I hate lecture so I started skipping but boy do I wish I had gone to those in hind sight.

And when I was done I wished I had kept up with the reading more. I never even tried Robbins (I'm not much of a textbook person) but I didn't even keep up in Goljan.

If I had to do 2nd year again I would (other than shooting myself)...focus on the information the school gave me (lecture notes) and labs and review books (Goljan, Robbins questions and First Aid). I would have continued my full-embraced mindset of P=MD and would presume that my general review would be enough for their quizzes and I would have spent the whole year refining my knowledge for Step 1.

I mean it will all work out in the end no matter what you do, so just try not to become too unhappy.

Oh strike that, if I could go back the most important thing I would change is I would work out every single day. 1st and 2nd year you have time to workout. 3rd year, not so much 🙁

 

[DeadCactus]

I love second year. Classes I give a damn about, a schedule with a more reasonable amount of time spent in class, and the knowledge that in a year I'll be done with classrooms...

 

[MilkmanAl]

Second year was way better than first, that's for sure. It definitely didn't hurt that I figured out going to class was useless, though. I'm not sure why this exorbitant-fee-for-easily-accesible-info rage is suddenly boiling to the top. It's no secret that you're paying for the piece of paper you get at the end, not the actual knowledge and teaching (for the first 2 years, anyway). You've been doing that since college, so it's nothing new.

 

[BigRedder]

It's no secret that you're paying for the piece of paper you get at the end, not the actual knowledge and teaching

And they wonder why we feel so "entitled" to passing grades...

 

[VoiceofReason]

medical school is paying tens of thousands of dollars per year to have a group of people administer poorly written tests to you and to facilitate horribly inefficient, and sometimes irrelevant, small group discussions

 

[NPEMTIV]

medical school is paying tens of thousands of dollars per year to have a group of people administer poorly written tests to you and to facilitate horribly inefficient, and sometimes irrelevant, small group discussions

This might just become my new favorite quote (appropriately cited of course!)...sums it up pretty well....

 

[WellWornLad]

Yeah, it was real tough waking up whenever I wanted, reading the New York Times over a 3-course breakfast with coffee, putting in a handful of hours reading about interesting diseases, and spending the night going out and hanging out over a few beers.

I almost never resort to sarcasm, but reading such blasphemy strips me of any higher wit. Ingrates.

 

[MossPoh]

Yeah, it was real tough waking up whenever I wanted, reading the New York Times over a 3-course breakfast with coffee, putting in a handful of hours reading about interesting diseases, and spending the night going out and hanging out over a few beers.

I almost never resort to sarcasm, but reading such blasphemy strips me of any higher wit. Ingrates.

You are more talented than many. I didn't even have that time very often during first year.

 

[drizzt3117]

I like 3rd year more than 2nd year but I miss all the free time I had 2nd year!

 

[BigRedder]

Yeah, it was real tough waking up whenever I wanted, reading the New York Times over a 3-course breakfast with coffee, putting in a handful of hours reading about interesting diseases, and spending the night going out and hanging out over a few beers.

Yeah I did that too, mostly in lecture.

 

[Funky]

Its been a couple of weeks max and you already think it sucks?

 

[MsKrispyKreme]

medical school is paying tens of thousands of dollars per year to have a group of people administer poorly written tests to you and to facilitate horribly inefficient, and sometimes irrelevant, small group discussions

*slow claps in awe*

Your s/n is justly deserved, kind sir...

 

[engineeredout]

Yeah, it was real tough waking up whenever I wanted, reading the New York Times over a 3-course breakfast with coffee, putting in a handful of hours reading about interesting diseases, and spending the night going out and hanging out over a few beers.

I almost never resort to sarcasm, but reading such blasphemy strips me of any higher wit. Ingrates.

maybe its the whole mandatory attendance thing going on here but things don't seem that easy. 8-10 hours spent in class and then studying afterwards for weekly exams doesn't leave much time for 3 course breakfast, reading the times, and hitting up the bars.

Sure the material is interesting, but man am I tired right now.

 

[C5toC9]

10hr daily mandatory lectures?

 

[QuizzicalApe]

maybe its the whole mandatory attendance thing going on here but things don't seem that easy. 8-10 hours spent in class and then studying afterwards for weekly exams doesn't leave much time for 3 course breakfast, reading the times, and hitting up the bars.

Sure the material is interesting, but man am I tired right now.

I can't even imagine being required to show up, let alone for that long. Horrifying. I'll take my relaxing 2nd year, thanks.

 

[LossForWords]

We don't start until Monday, but I'm pretty sure it's going to be TEH SUCK. I am pretty excited that it's my last classroom-based academic year ever! After 18 years of that junk, I'm ready to be done.

 

[coldweatherblue]

first year was cake...

second year suuuucked.

third-year = back to semi-normal life. awesome.

 

[engineeredout]

10hr daily mandatory lectures?

Not every day is 10 but we've been averaging ~7-8 per day. Most of the time I'm getting nothing out of lecture, but its so draining its hard to then leave and study the lectures all night. Bleh. Done bitching now.

 

[Doc013]

Well at least we aren't working minimum wage jobs for Walmart.

 

[LossForWords]

Well at least we aren't working minimum wage jobs for Walmart.

Instead we're paying several thousands for 4 years to get a minimum wage job as a resident at a hospital.

 

[MossPoh]

Instead we're paying several thousands for 4 years to get a minimum wage job as a resident at a hospital.

Still rather have that than work at walmart.

 

[nativmd]

medical school is paying tens of thousands of dollars per year to have a group of people administer poorly written tests to you and to facilitate horribly inefficient, and sometimes irrelevant, small group discussions

totally agree I had a very stupid exam today, For all you MSI's enjoy it while it lasts...

 

[Concordia]

To sum it up. Here are two books (Big Robbins and Cecil's) read these and pay us $40,000. Oh and we will have unreasonable quizzes specifically designed to trick you. Have fun.

Hmm, didn't you learn that during your first year? 🙄

 

[VenusinFurs]

Instead we're paying several thousands for 4 years to get a minimum wage job as a resident at a hospital.

Which we may not even get. And that, kids, is the poopiest.

I'm only a couple days in and I'm already somewhat lost in a mire of little boxes and floating arrows and dots. Let me just say that immuno is not my favorite thing in the world.

 

[Doc013]

Instead we're paying several thousands for 4 years to get a minimum wage job as a resident at a hospital.

Wah wah!
Some of the radiology residents work 35 hour weeks, for 50k, come on that's not bad. Of course we all can't be radiologists, but residency is only a means the the $$$.

 

[dude1344]

Wah wah!
Some of the radiology residents work 35 hour weeks, for 50k, come on that's not bad. Of course we all can't be radiologists, but residency is only a means the the $$$.

what $$$

 

[ArcGurren]

maybe its the whole mandatory attendance thing going on here but things don't seem that easy. 8-10 hours spent in class and then studying afterwards for weekly exams doesn't leave much time for 3 course breakfast, reading the times, and hitting up the bars.

Sure the material is interesting, but man am I tired right now.

What the hell med school do you go to with 8 hours of lecture every day? That seems horrifyingly inefficient.

 

[corbis11]

MS2 is alright so far. I feel like I'm starting to actually learn useful knowledge, but I could be full of it

 

[Funky]

MS2 is alright so far. I feel like I'm starting to actually learn useful knowledge, but I could be full of it

nahh.. 3rd and 4th years claim that it's much more interesting but just a lot of volume

 

[AlexMorph]

medical school is paying tens of thousands of dollars per year to have a group of people administer poorly written tests to you and to facilitate horribly inefficient, and sometimes irrelevant, small group discussions

love this quote

 

[MossPoh]

The places to nap when you're 6'5" still aren't that difficult....and you can reach things from the top shelf.

 

[LossForWords]

Still rather have that than work at walmart.

Yeah, that goes without saying.

 

[Doc013]

what $$$

Riiiiight a quarter million dollar salary is chump change.

 

[Mace1370]

Its been a couple of weeks max and you already think it sucks?

I still have a week before I start second year and I already think it sucks 😎

 

[ArcGurren]

I've had a few days of second year. It's harder and more time intensive, sure, but I would gladly take this subject matter over the crap that we had to learn during MS1.

 

[MUBiomed]

I am slightly overwhelmed right now. We (myself and the group of people I work with) all did very well first year, but after 1.5 weeks of MSII I can't seem to get in a groove as far as studying goes. I have been reviewing the material non-stop since day 1 but the "knowledge gained" seems much less per amount of time spent studying. I'm not really sure but something seems different....and I don't like it. The fact that all the profs are new to us doesn't help either since it is impossible to predict "important" test points vs. minute details that a not testable.


/Frustrated

 

[dude1344]

3 weeks in, and MS 2 sucks infinitely more than MS1.

M1 was easy compared to this. 🙂

 

[justaregularmed]

I am slightly overwhelmed right now. We (myself and the group of people I work with) all did very well first year, but after 1.5 weeks of MSII I can't seem to get in a groove as far as studying goes. I have been reviewing the material non-stop since day 1 but the "knowledge gained" seems much less per amount of time spent studying. I'm not really sure but something seems different....and I don't like it. The fact that all the profs are new to us doesn't help either since it is impossible to predict "important" test points vs. minute details that a not testable.


/Frustrated

I smell burnout. Did you relax during the summer?

 

[ArcGurren]

3 weeks in, and MS 2 sucks infinitely more than MS1.

M1 was easy compared to this. 🙂

I don't know WTF schools you guys go to but I'm about 2 weeks in and MS2 is waaaaaaaaaay better than MS1 was for me. I'm sure it'll become more stressful come boards time but I'm thoroughly enjoying learning this material compared to the boring crap that was thrown all over MS1.

 

[sunset823]

I don't know WTF schools you guys go to but I'm about 2 weeks in and MS2 is waaaaaaaaaay better than MS1 was for me. I'm sure it'll become more stressful come boards time but I'm thoroughly enjoying learning this material compared to the boring crap that was thrown all over MS1.

I agree. I'm actually enjoying reading Big Robbins. I hated anatomy, and to be rid of that feels like a huge weight off my back, and yes, I feel like I'm actually learning stuff relevant to being a doctor now. Maybe I will burn out at some point, but right now I find studying interesting.

 

[Rollo]

Anybody else go to systems-based school?

I do, and in our last trimester last year, we covered cardio, renal, and pulm. So we're pretty much used to systems format and right now we're doing GI.

So far, I love it. I keep looking back to how I was last year around this time - scared, nervous, stressed, overwhelmed, etc. And this year I feel more confident and prepared to deal with whatever is heading my way. Of course, studying for a boards is a different ball game. As far as classes go though, I'm definitely less intimidated than I was last year.

 

[astrocreep96]

Well at least we aren't working minimum wage jobs for Walmart.

The irony is that if we had decided to work at Walmart instead of attend the first two years of medical school, our net worth would be exponentially greater, we'd have much more free time, and we'd probably help more people.

 

[C5toC9]

why aren't you at Walmart?

 

[astrocreep96]

why aren't you at Walmart?

I don't like their uniforms. I much prefer a baggy white coat. I thought about applying to the photo processing department only to learn they switched to all digital processing and don't wear lab coats anymore. C'este la vie.

 

[corbis11]

dp

 

[corbis11]

Anybody else go to systems-based school?

I do, and in our last trimester last year, we covered cardio, renal, and pulm. So we're pretty much used to systems format and right now we're doing GI.

So far, I love it. I keep looking back to how I was last year around this time - scared, nervous, stressed, overwhelmed, etc. And this year I feel more confident and prepared to deal with whatever is heading my way. Of course, studying for a boards is a different ball game. As far as classes go though, I'm definitely less intimidated than I was last year.

yeah, we don't start system based until we finish up our microbiology/infectious disease block...which is a bitch, more and more every day

 

[C5toC9]

I don't like their uniforms. I much prefer a baggy white coat. I thought about applying to the photo processing department only to learn they switched to all digital processing and don't wear lab coats anymore. C'este la vie.

Do they have PACS at their photo dept?