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there are several reasons this doesn't make sense, one being that he told me after you were rezzed he could no longer converse with you.
And that's bullpocky because LIS asked STL in the convo "Are Gwen and I allowed to talk again?" To which STL said "Of course!" That's when LIS shared the anagram information and unscrambled BI, Conflag, and Cyndia. I never told him the info I got on him.
 
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And that's bullpocky because LIS asked STL in the convo "Are Gwen and I allowed to talk again?" To which STL said "Of course!" That's when LIS shared the anagram information and unscrambled BI, Conflag, and Cyndia. I never told him the info I got on him.
well not according to the conversations I had with him. Like I said, I could have bought that he was a wolf but he has an important role. Nothing you are telling me actually is adding up
 
At this point I'm willing to bet that DVMD is a chaos character. Gwen's information on LIS makes me think he's a good lynch choice.
 
And that's bullpocky because LIS asked STL in the convo "Are Gwen and I allowed to talk again?" To which STL said "Of course!" That's when LIS shared the anagram information and unscrambled BI, Conflag, and Cyndia. I never told him the info I got on him.
there's another reason I dont believe this, but to tell you would reveal more to the wolves than I would like
 
At 10:12pm last night STL said I was probably going to be rezzed. At 10:20pm STL said "You have been revived. You are now a shadow puppet. You do the work of an evil force. You no longer have the ability to investigate." Then at 12:16am LIS asked STL if we could converse again. 12:17am STL confirmed that we could. 12:41am I told LIS that I was a shadow puppet and couldn't investigate anymore. 12:41 LIS tells me about the anagrams as well as what the tree that I shared meant. Then at 12:42 after he read my message said "Well ****, I was all excited ebcause I finally knew what to do with your clues. Was looking forward to more." At 12:47am I said "Sorry, I almost wished I hadn't been rezzed now."
 
At 10:12pm last night STL said I was probably going to be rezzed. At 10:20pm STL said "You have been revived. You are now a shadow puppet. You do the work of an evil force. You no longer have the ability to investigate." Then at 12:16am LIS asked STL if we could converse again. 12:17am STL confirmed that we could. 12:41am I told LIS that I was a shadow puppet and couldn't investigate anymore. 12:41 LIS tells me about the anagrams as well as what the tree that I shared meant. Then at 12:42 after he read my message said "Well ****, I was all excited ebcause I finally knew what to do with your clues. Was looking forward to more." At 12:47am I said "Sorry, I almost wished I hadn't been rezzed now."
So @dyachei that's how things went down on my end. See if they match your conversation timeline with LIS or not.
 
well not according to the conversations I had with him. Like I said, I could have bought that he was a wolf but he has an important role. Nothing you are telling me actually is adding up
He could have an important role, but the information I got strooooongly suggest he was converted. Important role or not.
 
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I would just be surprised that you weren't given his initial role in the anagram. There is evidence to suggest that your conversation doesn't really exist anymore.
I got an initial anagram. He was the first person I looked into, seeing as he was my PM partner. It's in my post above and I couldn't figure out a solid interpretation.
 
Do you mind reposting it?
You receive the following message as a result of your attempt of seering LIS:

Received thee test –
Okay kids, buckle up.
Yes, I was the Shadow Investigator (I am no longer), and was apparently the only full seer in the game. However, my information came to me in crazy messages, which my PM buddy LIS figured out were anagrams. The info I got and was unscrambled was as follows (followed by the original message I received):
LIS: ??? (received thee test) I couldn't nail down a good answer, but a lot of results were deceive or detective, so do with that as you will.
BI: the tracker hunter (hacker enter truth)
Conflag: villager no role (large lover loin)
Cyndia: dispatcher makes items (a cad theme permits kiss)
LIS: convert necromancer wolf (conformance clown revert) This was the night I died, so I couldn't do anything with this info.

I agree with MJ though. Hopefully if the hooded man is killed, then him and I will be released from our shadow puppetry. Unless MJ isn't a shadow puppet. I forget what his wording was when he was rezzed.
And @dyachei I'm curious as to your reasons why lynching LIS is a bad idea. I've seen no posts where he is hinted at a useful role, or what your role is since you seem to have a lot of information up your sleeve as to players we shouldn't lynch.
 
LIS: ??? (received thee test) I couldn't nail down a good answer, but a lot of results were deceive or detective, so do with that as you will.

And @@dyachei I'm curious as to your reasons why lynching LIS is a bad idea. I've seen no posts where he is hinted at a useful role, or what your role is since you seem to have a lot of information up your sleeve as to players we shouldn't lynch.


You really don't see why this could be a bad idea?
 
LIS: ??? (received thee test) I couldn't nail down a good answer, but a lot of results were deceive or detective, so do with that as you will.

And @@dyachei I'm curious as to your reasons why lynching LIS is a bad idea. I've seen no posts where he is hinted at a useful role, or what your role is since you seem to have a lot of information up your sleeve as to players we shouldn't lynch.


You really don't see why this could be a bad idea?
Considering my last message, strongly hinting conversion, no.
 
That would require me to believe that last message. Which as I've said, I have several reasons not to.
Believe it or don't. Since I am no longer the investigator and not a threat to the wolves anymore, I literally have nothing to lose by leaving my information out in the open.
 
@Mad Jack , I'm just curious if your rez message and mine match up. Can you confirm it?
And welcome back to the land of the living. You have been revived as a shadow minion. You are a villager, and vote as a villager, and act as a villager, and are part of the villager team. However, while being revived, the wolves were separately able to place a spell/charm/prayer/etc. on you to do their bidding. As a result, they may have you act against your will to kill others/etc. in place of one of them doing so. Who knows if someone out there could break this spell or not...
That was my rez message.
 
Are any of these reasons ones that you can explain?

I just have a hard time imaging gwen saying she got results LIS was converted unless she really did. I mean, too easy them to just lynch her next if she is wrong or lying.
First off, I know that LIS and I worked out the anagrams together yesterday. He never shared the first anagram of his name.
2nd there is the issue with the conversation. While I believe that they can speak again, I have some concerns about this that @SummerTheLynx might need to address privately.

his role is beneficial to villagers. Hers is not. So it depends on who is lying. Or perhaps she got faulty results. Or perhaps she is a puppet like MJ seems to be.
 
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Fwiw, I got pretty much the same result when I rezzed Gwen as I did when I rezzed MJ, so I assumed they had the same curse. Not sure if that means anything or if STL just decided not to go as in-depth with Gwen's result.
I think if I was cursed, then it's irreversible. That's just my interpretation.
 
well the one thing has been clarified. It leads us to he said/she said. Here's my concern: if there were 3 wolves and they've converted one more, they only need 2 more villagers dead to win. I'm up in the air about this vote now, too. So here's the other issue. shadow puppet v. possible beneficial role. You decide. I've laid out what I can on the table
 
well the one thing has been clarified. It leads us to he said/she said. Here's my concern: if there were 3 wolves and they've converted one more, they only need 2 more villagers dead to win. I'm up in the air about this vote now, too. So here's the other issue. shadow puppet v. possible beneficial role. You decide. I've laid out what I can on the table
I'm sticking with LIS. The shadow puppets aren't converted- they're pretty specifically not converted. That makes me pretty confident gwen is a villager, leaving my vote on LIS.
 
Interesting that the result MJ got made it clear that he was still a villager whereas yours does not.
Believe me, I'm aware. 🙁 I wasn't even made clear if I count as a villager. I just asked STL if I count in the villager number or not. If Dyachei's math is right, and if I don't count in the villager number anymore then I'll offer myself up so there's another chance at villagers finding a wolf.
 
I'm sticking with LIS. The shadow puppets aren't converted- they're pretty specifically not converted. That makes me pretty confident gwen is a villager, leaving my vote on LIS.
that's fine. I'm on the fence. But because I'm on the fence, I'm sticking with lynching gwen since the benefit is higher if she's lying.
 
This is true. I don't know whether to pass that off as laziness on the part of STL or intentional. I can never tell with him.
I very much doubt it was unintentional. Now, whether it was meant to indicate that she is no longer a villager, or simply meant to mess with us, that I can't say.
 
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I very much doubt it was unintentional. Now, whether it was meant to indicate that she is no longer a villager, or simply meant to mess with us, that I can't say.
Well he won't tell me, but I'm not in any conversation besides the ID with LIS.