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byong_soo said:
Definitely. Yale match list is simply insane.
The whole resume thing maybe true- maybe not. But the bottom line is that yale med grads go to excellent residencies. It's par with other top schools. you really have to see the list. And then you will be left to wonder why it's not ranked top 5.
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I agree. I thought Yale had a great match list, and I was very impressed with their educational philosophy. Considering the amount of time Yale students are required to be in class, their match list is unparalled.
 
DrHusky said:
Bottom line, it is probably not a good fit for the gunner pre-meds of the world....which in my mind encompasses a significant portion. Furthermore, the 'resume-stacking' that was earlier referred to is likely no more than any other school. Although there are no rankings, the fact that you get into Yale says enough about your academic ability. I strongly doubt that there is a significant discrepancy between performance in the memorization portion of ugrad and med and there are grades in rotations to distinguish yourself (or brown nose....however you think about it).
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I beg to differ. I think Yale likely has just as many gunners as any other top school. There's a different sort of gunnerism going on... (not through raw grades but through resume-building).

I am not a Yale med student so I cannot verify any of my thoughts from my own personal experiences. What I am offering is another perspective given from students I have talked to from Yale ugrad (that have friends in Yale med) and Yale med.

Do not be entirely fooled by the "everyone is so friendly and cooperative because we have no grades" logic. Med school is competitive. Competition brings out the best and the worst of people. There is cut-throat fighting for leadership positions, etc (more so than at other schools because other schools have grades to help differentiate students).

I have not seen the Yale match-list but I would not be surprised if it was truly comparable to Harvard's or Hopkins'.... I doubt that it is truly ''unparalleled'' though.
 
yale's class is approx 100 right? so, do u guys know if, once they announce acceptances, there is movment off a waitlist?
 
There's actually a fair amount of waitlist movement, just because a lot of people who get in there get in to other top schools as well. And while Yale is a great school, it's not for everyone. New York and Boston pull away a lot of people from New Haven.
 
from what i was told on interview day, they don't want to go over a class size of 100. so they accept very conservatively at first - maybe only a 100 or a little over - and then take liberally off the waitlist to fill declined spots.
 
Stolenspatulas said:
I beg to differ. I think Yale likely has just as many gunners as any other top school. There's a different sort of gunnerism going on... (not through raw grades but through resume-building).

I am not a Yale med student so I cannot verify any of my thoughts from my own personal experiences. What I am offering is another perspective given from students I have talked to from Yale ugrad (that have friends in Yale med) and Yale med.

Do not be entirely fooled by the "everyone is so friendly and cooperative because we have no grades" logic. Med school is competitive. Competition brings out the best and the worst of people. There is cut-throat fighting for leadership positions, etc (more so than at other schools because other schools have grades to help differentiate students).

I have not seen the Yale match-list but I would not be surprised if it was truly comparable to Harvard's or Hopkins'.... I doubt that it is truly ''unparalleled'' though.
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I think you mistake "gunnerism" with ambition. They are two different things. Being smart/hardworking does not make one a gunner. Wanting to be a leader and build one's resume does not make one a gunner. I think it's sabotaging others that makes one a gunner. What you said does not fit into this.
 
lina123321 said:
those who got interviewed at yale, did u get a "thankyou for your visit" letter...im kinda scared as to whether its just a regular thankyou, a pre-waitlist, etc...any info?
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Hehe, paranoia. Here I am wondering if it's bad that I DIDN'T get one of those.
 
Yale is one of my top choices, my fear has been stated here. That despite th laid back grading there will be infinite pressure to burn myself on EC's that I dont want inorder to look good.
 
Homer Simpson said:
Hehe, paranoia. Here I am wondering if it's bad that I DIDN'T get one of those.
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i havent been on this thread in a while..i forgot to mention smthg i definitely overlooked when i first read the letter...the letterhead said yale SOM so i assumed it was from the admissions dept, but really it was from the multicultural affairs dept...so yeah, i dont think its that big of a deal...sorry for any confusion...
 
Stolenspatulas said:
I beg to differ. I think Yale likely has just as many gunners as any other top school. There's a different sort of gunnerism going on... (not through raw grades but through resume-building).

I am not a Yale med student so I cannot verify any of my thoughts from my own personal experiences. What I am offering is another perspective given from students I have talked to from Yale ugrad (that have friends in Yale med) and Yale med.

Do not be entirely fooled by the "everyone is so friendly and cooperative because we have no grades" logic. Med school is competitive. Competition brings out the best and the worst of people. There is cut-throat fighting for leadership positions, etc (more so than at other schools because other schools have grades to help differentiate students).

I have not seen the Yale match-list but I would not be surprised if it was truly comparable to Harvard's or Hopkins'.... I doubt that it is truly ''unparalleled'' though.
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I am a yale med student and I can really say that my classmates here are not competitive with each other. I have last years match list and this years early match list if you're interested, message me and I can get them to you.

Good luck to everybody applying.
 
anyone know when decisions are coming out?
 
I'm curious too. Yale definitely impressed me. All the students I met were very relaxed and easy-going.
 
my brother is a yale med student, he chose it over hopkins, penn, and wash u. to this day he says it is the best decision he ever made, that the school is truly noncompetitive and gave him tons of time to pursue research opportunities and other leadership activities--and at no time did he feel like he was engaging in "cut-throat fighting" to obtain these positions. he just matched at harvard.

Stolenspatulas said:
I beg to differ. I think Yale likely has just as many gunners as any other top school. There's a different sort of gunnerism going on... (not through raw grades but through resume-building).

I am not a Yale med student so I cannot verify any of my thoughts from my own personal experiences. What I am offering is another perspective given from students I have talked to from Yale ugrad (that have friends in Yale med) and Yale med.

Do not be entirely fooled by the "everyone is so friendly and cooperative because we have no grades" logic. Med school is competitive. Competition brings out the best and the worst of people. There is cut-throat fighting for leadership positions, etc (more so than at other schools because other schools have grades to help differentiate students).

I have not seen the Yale match-list but I would not be surprised if it was truly comparable to Harvard's or Hopkins'.... I doubt that it is truly ''unparalleled'' though.
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I believe it. Spending the day around the students and faculty, you really get a sense that people are friendly and easygoing. This isn't to say they're not ambitious and do great inside and out of the classroom, but it's a non-competitive mentality with eachother.
 
i recall Richard Silverman telling us that they are targeting by end of March, but not 100% sure
 
anyone have the basic interviewed/accepted/enrolled stats?
 
junqu said:
anyone have the basic interviewed/accepted/enrolled stats?
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didn't they give you the stat sheet at the interview?
it's ~750 interviewed and ~220 accepted. but for more accurate number, you should look at the sheet i am refering to.
 
is byong_soo your name?
 
nope. :laugh:
 
junqu said:
nope. :laugh:
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If that isn't your name, this seems very disrespectful. You ask a direct question, something revealing, you get an authentic, honest and open answer which also asks something of you - two things, as I can see it. Asks whether your handle is your name, but also asks of you to share yourself, to also be authentic, honest and open. You have shown yourself. Ugh!

Siobhan
 
4paw said:
If that isn't your name, this seems very disrespectful. You ask a direct question, something revealing, you get an authentic, honest and open answer which also asks something of you - two things, as I can see it. Asks whether your handle is your name, but also asks of you to share yourself, to also be authentic, honest and open. You have shown yourself. Ugh!

Siobhan
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er . . . bathetic much?
 
sheepunite said:
er . . . bathetic much?
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To get to your level.... I know you are but what am I? Repeat, repeat, repeat.

What I like about Yale is their interdisciplinarity and willingness to be at the growing edge - i.e. not just leaders in the 'comfortable' areas, but also in terms of qualitative, humanities, etc. I believe that leads to more respectful dialogic relationship, and can only increase the benefit of medicine in the world. The world needs change.

However, this is way off-topic from whether Yale is done pre-interview, and even off-topic from where Yale is at now in the process. From time to time, our interactions with each other become prominent and call for attention. 'bathetic much' is just that sort of disrespectful dialogue that needs to be addressed. I don't want this continuing on this particular thread, however, i invite you to p.m. me what got stirred in you by my post, and are you willing to share that in a way that gets to deeper understanding of each other. i can't promise i'll stay in dialogue with you, and i'm offering to attempt.
 
OK OK. chill Siobhan....take a nice long drive on the Autobahn....say hi to Genghis Kahn...



To Byong: Sorry dude -- My name is Ryan!
 
4paw said:
To get to your level.... I know you are but what am I? Repeat, repeat, repeat.

I got to interview at Yale as well. One of the first things I noticed was that this was a student body that interacted in ways I appreciated. witty, aware and with it. i'd love to go. and i think the system does foster the 'growing edges' of medicine. qualitative, and my take on medicine after women's studies and training as a psychotherapist were identified as having faculty that could potentially support me in my particular research, learning process, and interests. that was neat. now, i'll make sure to get the knowledge i want wherever i go - i'm looking to add the biochemistry, the science, the quantitative, the neuroscience of psychiatry. and i'll add that to my humanistic knowledge, qualitative, whatever. but so much better when there is a critical mass of scholars interested in harmonious topics, across the different specialties, subspecialties, ideologies of medicine.

I believe that leads to more respectful dialogic relationship, and can only increase the benefit of medicine in the world. Take That! baaaa!
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again, er . . .
you blew junqu's laconic reply way out of proportion. i was astonished at how swiftly you read inauthenticity from his/her direct, not unfriendly response to a direct question.

i'm glad you liked yale. great.

i'm a little surprised that your field is psychotherapy, given your inability to read the rather innocuous dynamics of the byong-soo-junqu interchange.

dialogical, schmiaological. an informational, online forum is hardly the place.
 
sheepunite said:
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again, er . . .
you blew junqu's laconic reply way out of proportion. i was astonished at how swiftly you read inauthenticity from his/her direct, not unfriendly response to a direct question.

i'm glad you liked yale. great.

i'm a little surprised that your field is psychotherapy, given your inability to read the rather innocuous dynamics of the byong-soo-junqu interchange.

dialogical, schmiaological. an informational, online forum is hardly the place.
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You may note that I edited my post to take out personal info. Up to you to respect that, I'm willing to stand by what I previously said as well. My invitation to you in the edit still stands. p.m. me if the goal is to get to a point of understanding and respecting each other, rather than off-the-cuff jokes that mask other things. i don't agree with you that the interaction is innocuous. we can start from there. or not.
 
man, yale really knows how to pick to good ones for interviews.

makes me wonder how the heck i didn't get an interview . . .
 
junqu said:
OK OK. chill Siobhan....take a nice long drive on the Autobahn....say hi to Genghis Kahn...



To Byong: Sorry dude -- My name is Ryan!
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That was nice to see 🙂
And it's Joan of Arc, pleased to meet you too.

Siobhan

p.s. to Ryan - Byong Soo hasn't even mentioned how they took the post. i reacted to your post, and you've posted again in response. your post jokes towards me, and is serious towards the topic. I was challenging you, not necessarily on behalf of byong-soo. also, in the joke, i wonder if you're feeling strong-armed. although dialogue and how we are to each other is a huge interest of mine, continuing here would not be supported by the cultural norm of this message board. p.m. me if you're unfinished with me or want to dialogue more. because you've unmasked that affects how i receive your humour so i can laugh back with you. others posting and being derogatory will not cause such softening towards them. can i ask what spurred you to unmask as well, in a p.m.? or perhaps start a forum dedicated to dialogic relationship - i'm sure that spicedmanna would join. have you seen that user name? this has got to be the last post i make here, though, way way way off topic!
 
LifetimeDoc said:
I would assume that not getting an interview at Yale at this late date equals automatic rejection? :laugh:
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haha. how dare you derail us back to the original point of the thread? yeah, i assume we're done.
 
Geez, e-mail decisions?! Nerve-wracking. That means as the deadline looms I'm going to have to check sdn before checking e-mail to mentally prepare myself for the decision.
 
Lorienne7 said:
He didn't specify but according to last year's Yale acceptances thread, acceptances went out via email.
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oh man, I had enough stress opening some of the interview emails. A few didn't have a revealing title, so reading the emails was very nerve wracking
 
Yehosh said:
oh man, I had enough stress opening some of the interview emails. A few didn't have a revealing title, so reading the emails was very nerve wracking
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I like it better by email. I have always had pretty descriptive subjects, that either say congratulations or Interview offer so it takes the guessing out of it.

-PD
 
That's a lot of pressure on an e-mail. I don't know if I'd rather have a title with "Congrats, etc." or a non-descript "Admissions Decision" title. This is really lame to be looking forward to a decision when it's literally a month away.
 
YALE seems like a great school...

Here are some question for any current Med Students- I've heard that New Haven is not safe (fact or fiction?).

It seemed alright to me...what are your thoughts?

And do most MS1s live in the dorm? 😀
 
New Haven is relatively safe. It depends where you are. The downtown area is pretty safe during the day and at night, around the green where all the clubs/restaurants are. Yale area is pretty safe. Med school area is safe, but borders some ok to bad areas, so I wouldn't stray too far w/o heading towards downtown from there.

There are areas where you should not be, but there is NO reason for you to ever have to stray to those places. I love New Haven and love hanging out there. There's a lot to do and it's a pretty fun place to be once you learn all the great places to go!

photo_girl07 said:
YALE seems like a great school...

Here are some question for any current Med Students- I've heard that New Haven is not safe (fact or fiction?).

It seemed alright to me...what are your thoughts?

And do most MS1s live in the dorm? 😀
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photo_girl07 said:
YALE seems like a great school...

Here are some question for any current Med Students- I've heard that New Haven is not safe (fact or fiction?).

It seemed alright to me...what are your thoughts?

And do most MS1s live in the dorm? 😀
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Good question. The school has a lot of $ and they are putting a lot of it into producing safe environment. Actually, my interviewer addressed that issue without me even asking. I think the school told the interviewers to make sure we aren't intimidated by it. For me, it really isn't a big issue, it would never affect my decision. But I really don't think New Haven is dangerous, it seemed like a nice quite city. I did my undergrad in a similar type of town and there were some sketchy areas, but I just stayed mostly around campus so it never bothered me.

From talking to students, I think their type of dorms are not something I'd really go for. But I'm getting ahead of myself, I gotta get accepted first, lol.
 
Stolenspatulas said:
for one, since there are no requirements for tests, etc, it makes it very VERY hard for students to differentiate themselves from their peers. Thus this makes ambitious students that want competitive residencies go nuts with extracurriculars and leadership positions, as well as suck up like mad to potential recommendation writers. I believe there is also no true evaluation system during the clinical years as well. [this is all things i've heard from yale ugrads that have friends in the med school]
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How hard would it be to get a residency at Yale New- Haven Hospital if you are coming from Yale Med School?
 
Lorienne7 said:
He didn't specify but according to last year's Yale acceptances thread, acceptances went out via email.
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The office folks said that decisions for acceptance went out by snail mail. Interview invites def. go by email.

Now I'm wondering which is it!
 
Went??????
 
cgscribe said:
That's a lot of pressure on an e-mail. I don't know if I'd rather have a title with "Congrats, etc." or a non-descript "Admissions Decision" title. This is really lame to be looking forward to a decision when it's literally a month away.
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I hear they send you an envelope with a huge red rubber stamp saying "REJECTED..." and then on the inside "...PUNK BITCH"
 
junqu said:
Went??????
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i.e. in past years, and that this would be in all likelihood for this year.

although reference to this thread of yale acceptances coming by email last year is throwing me off, because the person who was talking did not have a feel of absolute sureness that they *only* go by mail, in the third week of march, or so, this year, apparently. the week before that, there is a meeting where the list is chosen. however, there are mini-ranks made after x amount of interviewees, which then all get folded together, for that big meeting, and then the debates begin. given that yale is a school that fosters independent thought and debate, apparently these conversations get quite animated and exciting. what we were told as well is that there are very few candidates who will end up with little support from at least one person at the meeting. however, i'd say the excitement also gets wrapped up with interpersonal relationships amongst the committee, and so has a lot to do with the excitement between the people in the room as well! that was the analysis i brought to it. this was likened to sequestering for choosing a new pope, or other such processes. i'd love to be part of such a committee. there must be various characters and their ways of taking presence of leadership. some who can build consensus, others who like to be joan of arcs. some whose opinions are respected, some who surprisingly get support from powerful voices. all those kinds of dynamics. must be fascinating from that angle.
 
I'm an MS1 at Yale who is involved with the tour program, so here are the aprox numbers:

Applications this year: aprox 4500
People interviewed: aprox 900 (up 100 from last year)

Last year they initially accepted somewhere between 120-150.
people drop until the number accepted hits 100, then they take one for one until the start of school. Total acceptances last year to yield 100 was about 220.

Last interview will be done either the 3rd or 5th of March, sorry I don't remember which.

Hope that helps.
 
jbar said:
I'm an MS1 at Yale who is involved with the tour program, so here are the aprox numbers:

Applications this year: aprox 4500
People interviewed: aprox 900 (up 100 from last year)

Last year they initially accepted somewhere between 120-150.
people drop until the number accepted hits 100, then they take one for one until the start of school. Total acceptances last year to yield 100 was about 220.

Last interview will be done either the 3rd or 5th of March, sorry I don't remember which.

Hope that helps.
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At interview stage, looks like 220/900...24.4 % Acceptance (ok, i know its fuzzy math...but it gives us an idea). Thanks for the info 🙂
 
Cmon yale.....

Im hoping I get a good financial package from them,,,, gosh I hate the idea of being 250,000 in debt.
 
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