Yale v. UCLA

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Long time reader but first time poster. I need some advice...i have been trippin out about deciding between yale and ucla...which should i rank #1? location is not an issue....Please discuss the strengths and weaknesses of each program...Thank you
 
If location isn't an issue I would personally choose UCLA. Yale is way laid back, and they have a great "name", but I got the impression the program wasn't the stellar program they make it out to be, and I was told twice on my interview I wouldn't get to see my family much. Cool.
 
I can't speak about UCLA, but here are my impressions of Yale:
1) The faculty, chair, and PD are enormously invested in the program. Dr. Hines, the chair, has a weekly conference/case discussion exclusively for the residents. This was the only program I interviewed at where the chair of the dept. herself did this. She is also incredibly approachable, as are the vast majority of the other faculty.
2) The schedule is 60-65 hrs a week, 4-5 calls a month avg. More importantly, though, the PD ensures that the cases are educational and relevant.
3) You are never pressured to do research, but if you want to, some of the biggest names in the field are at Yale. I've found them to be super approachable, and willing to let you have as small or as large a role as you want in joining an existing project or starting your own.
4) New Haven has quiet, peaceful neighborhoods (East Rock, Westville) and several state parks for hiking - but also has tons of shops, restaurants, museums, theater, concerts, bars and clubs. NYC is a train ride away as well.
 
thanks for the reply!
but was wondering if you can elaborate on why you feel "Yale isn't the stellar program they make it out to be"?

Also, I'm a little confused, how can Yale be both "way laid back", yet not be able "to get to see my family much"?
 
I agree with "sevoat8" in terms of Yale's faculty, PD, and chair being very invested into the program. I got the feeling resident education was indeed their main priority.

I was just curious to see if other people got similar impressions.

At UCLA, I did not feel this same type of commitment to resident education there. If anyone else got a different impression, please chime in...
That's why I'm a little surprised with "kraphtymac" statement and hoping he/she will elaborate....
The only positives I heard from my interview at UCLA, was that the residents only spoke highly about the location, but not many positive things were said about the program itself
 
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