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Do you think Obama loves dentists? CUZ I LOVE OBAMA!!! any one else???😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
 
I'll be a general dentist making on average ~$185,000. Under $200,000? Sweet. Hooray for Obama!

What? You're specializing? Oh. Sorry for your loss.
 
Haisha-san, there's more to life than money.
 
I'll be a general dentist making on average ~$185,000. Under $200,000? Sweet. Hooray for Obama!

What? You're specializing? Oh. Sorry for your loss.
You understand what average means, right? And you might want to take a look around SDN. There are some very interesting threads that point out how an Obama presidency might not be the best for white collar professionals or dental practices.
 
have you not heard him? he will tax professionals (us) more....

Demo's in general want a more socialized healthcare (hurting medical/dental professionals)

so, why would we be happy he won????

there are already several threads on this
 
oh no ... here we go again
 
I'll be a general dentist making on average ~$185,000. Under $200,000? Sweet. Hooray for Obama!

What? You're specializing? Oh. Sorry for your loss.

by the time you specialize, we will be voting again!!!
 
Haisha-san, there's more to life than money.

I agree. I don't know why it always comes down to money when they are already making or have accumulated tons. I guess this basically filters out people that are in here for money only.
 
yes, there is more to LIFE than money. Like his pro-choice policy? Let's face it, he's in, his policies will likely be implemented, he'll make his appointments, and we the professionals will be subject to them. BTW, his #'s for who will be taxed are down to 150,000 as stated by vice president elect last week. Dental offices (even small slow ones) average MUCH more than this. So goes the popular vote. Keep him in prayer.
 
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"I agree. I don't know why it always comes down to money when they are already making or have accumulated tons. I guess this basically filters out people that are in here for money only."

Are you even out of school yet? You'd be lying your a** off if you said financial security did not play a major role in your decision to go into the dental field. If you use the liberal and failed idea of socialized healthcare, you will see a major decline in salaries (lower reimbursements), not to mention the increased workload, hence burnout. Not only that, if we taxed more to those making >250K (well that is subject change...hmm), we're taxing the their salary AND the gross (if >250k) of their practice (if they own a practice).
 
Obama is preaching socialism. Regardless of your agreement with that he will be taxing those individuals who have worked hard for their positions and jobs. This robes the incentives and motivations to be successful and work for your accomplishments. I mean why work hard when you are being rewarded for not working. Capitalism is what America was founded on and what it needs. And yes I agree we will be making less than 250000 but when we get married and our spouse contributes that income grows scarily closer to that corporate tax cut off. Obama's platform is attractive at the surface but please don't be ignorant think about all factors. To everyone saying money isn't everything then why are you complaining about jobs being lost? Money is a reward in a capitalistic society and it is what makes the world go round. Now that Obama has one the election I am interested in seeing how democrats respond to the claims of their party being the reason for a dwindling economy.
 
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Haisha-san, there's more to life than money.

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When you are at a stage when you have that much, you shouldnt be too worried about it. There are people with nothing.... and not because they don't work hard. Get a clue.
 
Most of us are pre-dental right now and by the time we practice, we'll have another president. Stop worrying about Obama this, Obama that.
 
policy made now affect us until they are changed. Change in policy takes time to implement and then time (time meaning almot a year or two) for most types of policy to take effect. No quick fixes, no quick changes after next election.
 
I agree. Even if we do start practicing with the same policy, our start pay will not exceed 200k.
 
Most of us are pre-dental right now and by the time we practice, we'll have another president. Stop worrying about Obama this, Obama that.

Not unless he gets elected for a 2nd term (though it's too far ahead to be thinking of that). Even as pre-dents though, we should still be keeping tabs on how Obama plans to implement his policy on healthcare because it will most likely affect those coming right out of ds.
 
Agreed with everything you said.
 
Why does everybody think it will just be painful for people who do well? Has everybody forgot about greenhouse gas taxes? If gas is taxed to the point that it is where Obama said he would like it to be, the average family of 4 is going to be paying more then $2k more a year in fuel taxes. Remember his coal power plant gaff that came out a couple of days ago? Do you think it will help the lower class or the middle class when they have there electric bill double? People can talk all about middle class tax breaks, but all of the global warming taxes will bury any kind of tax break coming.
 
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When you are at a stage when you have that much, you shouldnt be too worried about it. There are people with nothing.... and not because they don't work hard. Get a clue.

Get a Clue? Here’s a clue for you. A global economy is the future of the world with its revolutionizing technology. In Obama's platform he plans to reduce NAFTA and CAFTA which are pivotal in America’s ability to be competitive. If America is not a leader in the global market corporations, which provide millions of jobs to those individuals who are suffering now are not going to operate in this country. I am not belittling the lower class, I know that MOST of them work hard and are great individuals but when there are no jobs to work for how hard can they work? Obama's plan treats the problem by redistributing wealth to those Ares but once the economy rebounds there is little opportunity for growth. Back to dentistry I agree with the posts previous, that a socialistic universal healthcare system will drive healthcare into the ground.
 
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Obama is preaching socialism. Regardless of your agreement with that he will be taxing those individuals who have worked hard for their positions and jobs. This robes the incentives and motivations to be successful and work for your accomplishments. I mean why work hard when you are being rewarded for not working. Capitalism is what America was founded on and what it needs. And yes I agree we will be making less than 250000 but when we get married and our spouse contributes that income grows scarily closer to that corporate tax cut off. Obama's platform is attractive at the surface but please don't be ignorant think about all factors. To everyone saying money isn't everything then why are you complaining about jobs being lost? Money is a reward in a capitalistic society and it is what makes the world go round. Now that Obama has one the election I am interested in seeing how democrats respond to the claims of their party being the reason for a dwindling economy.

The Obama "Socialist/Communist" talk I hear is such a joke. Well I've got news for you... Socialism exists in this country, and has for a very long time; the thing is it's only for the top 1% and the rest of us get to bare the pains of the free market. What would you call a 700 billion dollar bail out package for the financial elite? Well if it's a Republican who's doing it, it's necessary to ensure the stability of the market, if it's a Democrat in office it's socialism.

I'm so happy an inspiring figure like Obama is coming into office. There's more than just Obama's "woo" factor: its the fact that he's a thinker. I feel safe in assuming he won't go idealogue on a problem. He'll think it through. He'll call in the best and the brightest and put his Harvard magna cum laude IQ to work.

Country first guys. Not private dental practice first. Fun Census Bureau fact for you: for the past 5 decades family income growth under Democratic presidents has trumped Republican presidents... even the 95th percentile. So stop getting your panties in a bunch over "sharing the wealth."
 
"I agree. I don't know why it always comes down to money when they are already making or have accumulated tons. I guess this basically filters out people that are in here for money only."

Are you even out of school yet? You'd be lying your a** off if you said financial security did not play a major role in your decision to go into the dental field. If you use the liberal and failed idea of socialized healthcare, you will see a major decline in salaries (lower reimbursements), not to mention the increased workload, hence burnout. Not only that, if we taxed more to those making >250K (well that is subject change...hmm), we're taxing the their salary AND the gross (if >250k) of their practice (if they own a practice).


Listen, Dentistry will thrive and survive no matter what the TYPE of healthcare there is in the US...people will always have teeth and teeth problems...if a burn out is possible in dentistry, it is possible in ANY field so that argument has no real logic to it... Would you really stop being a dentist because you are "tired" of "lower reimbursements"? Son, you havent' even been a dentist yet to TASTE what current reimbursements are to miss what it used to be...lol. :laugh:
 
actually, universal health care is beneficial for health professionals because we wont have to argue with insurance companies or have to wonder if different things are covered. obama is requiring that insurance companies are upfront about what is covered. also, since the insurance companies will no longer be allowed to discriminate against who is worth covering, more of our patients will have coverage, which means we dont have to worry about getting pain. the government spends billions of dollars trying to compensate health professionals for the money their patients couldn't pay them. so in actuality, obama is a good thing for our practices. in addition, if you people are seriously more concerned with paying more taxes because we'll be wealthier, than you're selfish and probably lied on you applications about caring for the community and wanting to help others. we're going to make enough money that paying a little more to help others isn't going to hurt us and its going to help society as a whole. if you're only in this for the money then you probably shouldn't even go to dental school. if you dont believe me, just let me know cause i had to write a paper on obama's plan for universal health care last year and i will gladly share it with whoever private msgs me so people can stop being so ignorant and selfish. this election made history and proving our country can get past the racism barrier and having democrats in office is worth extra taxes for those of us that will have so much money any way. he's only taxing people who made more than $250,000 a year. if you're making that much, you can afford to help out others. pull your heads out of your asses if you dont agree.
 
Obama's plan treats the problem by redistributing wealth to those Ares but once the economy rebounds there is little opportunity for growth.

That is why his plan is not meant to go on forever. Only until we rebound. But...Clearly we need to rebound before any new changes can be made. His current plans are meant to help us stabilize. everyone has their own opinions... and a right to them!! I guess we will just have to see where this is all headed.......
 
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actually, universal health care is beneficial for health professionals because we wont have to argue with insurance companies or have to wonder if different things are covered. obama is requiring that insurance companies are upfront about what is covered. also, since the insurance companies will no longer be allowed to discriminate against who is worth covering, more of our patients will have coverage, which means we dont have to worry about getting pain. the government spends billions of dollars trying to compensate health professionals for the money their patients couldn't pay them. so in actuality, obama is a good thing for our practices. in addition, if you people are seriously more concerned with paying more taxes because we'll be wealthier, than you're selfish and probably lied on you applications about caring for the community and wanting to help others. we're going to make enough money that paying a little more to help others isn't going to hurt us and its going to help society as a whole. if you're only in this for the money then you probably shouldn't even go to dental school. if you dont believe me, just let me know cause i had to write a paper on obama's plan for universal health care last year and i will gladly share it with whoever private msgs me so people can stop being so ignorant and selfish. this election made history and proving our country can get past the racism barrier and having democrats in office is worth extra taxes for those of us that will have so much money any way. he's only taxing people who made more than $250,000 a year. if you're making that much, you can afford to help out others. pull your heads out of your asses if you dont agree.

👍. To you, and Enso's comment above. This is exactly the way I feel.
 
The greed among this community is one of the main reasons why the general pubic hates dentists.

And someone is going to come out and say "well, you aren't doing dentistry for financial security??" No, I'm not. Listen, I would be happy making 100K and live very comfortably, it just so happens that I love this profession and making more than that is just a perk.

Our country is much better off with Obama. Who knows, dentists could have been taxed even more with McCain to pay for "100 years of war" lol.

If you're entering dentistry for the money, you have more problems than who is the US President.
 
actually, universal health care is beneficial for health professionals because we wont have to argue with insurance companies or have to wonder if different things are covered. obama is requiring that insurance companies are upfront about what is covered. also, since the insurance companies will no longer be allowed to discriminate against who is worth covering, more of our patients will have coverage, which means we dont have to worry about getting pain. the government spends billions of dollars trying to compensate health professionals for the money their patients couldn't pay them. so in actuality, obama is a good thing for our practices. in addition, if you people are seriously more concerned with paying more taxes because we'll be wealthier, than you're selfish and probably lied on you applications about caring for the community and wanting to help others. we're going to make enough money that paying a little more to help others isn't going to hurt us and its going to help society as a whole. if you're only in this for the money then you probably shouldn't even go to dental school. if you dont believe me, just let me know cause i had to write a paper on obama's plan for universal health care last year and i will gladly share it with whoever private msgs me so people can stop being so ignorant and selfish. this election made history and proving our country can get past the racism barrier and having democrats in office is worth extra taxes for those of us that will have so much money any way. he's only taxing people who made more than $250,000 a year. if you're making that much, you can afford to help out others. pull your heads out of your asses if you dont agree.

Great post.
 
have you not heard him? he will tax professionals (us) more....---->I thought we all took our DAT a couple of months ago.

Demo's in general want a more socialized healthcare (hurting medical/dental professionals) --->Can I have some of those dices you got fuzz up there?

so, why would we be happy he won????

there are already several threads on this

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actually, universal health care is beneficial for health professionals because we wont have to argue with insurance companies or have to wonder if different things are covered. obama is requiring that insurance companies are upfront about what is covered. also, since the insurance companies will no longer be allowed to discriminate against who is worth covering, more of our patients will have coverage, which means we dont have to worry about getting pain. the government spends billions of dollars trying to compensate health professionals for the money their patients couldn't pay them. so in actuality, obama is a good thing for our practices. in addition, if you people are seriously more concerned with paying more taxes because we'll be wealthier, than you're selfish and probably lied on you applications about caring for the community and wanting to help others. we're going to make enough money that paying a little more to help others isn't going to hurt us and its going to help society as a whole. if you're only in this for the money then you probably shouldn't even go to dental school. if you dont believe me, just let me know cause i had to write a paper on obama's plan for universal health care last year and i will gladly share it with whoever private msgs me so people can stop being so ignorant and selfish. this election made history and proving our country can get past the racism barrier and having democrats in office is worth extra taxes for those of us that will have so much money any way. he's only taxing people who made more than $250,000 a year. if you're making that much, you can afford to help out others. pull your heads out of your asses if you dont agree.

Impressive!!
 
I like Obama, but I like Hilary better

"Hillary aint running, Hillary is not running. I love Hillary, but you know she lost." Chris Rock😀

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sT0KgGR-uM[/youtube]

Palin's Prank call. You might have missed it...

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbEwKcs-7Hc[/YOUTUBE]
 
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"I agree. I don't know why it always comes down to money when they are already making or have accumulated tons. I guess this basically filters out people that are in here for money only."

Are you even out of school yet? You'd be lying your a** off if you said financial security did not play a major role in your decision to go into the dental field. If you use the liberal and failed idea of socialized healthcare, you will see a major decline in salaries (lower reimbursements), not to mention the increased workload, hence burnout. Not only that, if we taxed more to those making >250K (well that is subject change...hmm), we're taxing the their salary AND the gross (if >250k) of their practice (if they own a practice).

umm...FYI...I have been working for over a year now. I know what it takes to be financially independent. I don't know why Americans are so insecure about single unit healthcare when countries in Europe could handle them just fine, not to mention that the doctors there are rich too. If you want a relaxed life, maybe you should think of a career change.
 
I am truly sorry that some of you pre-dents will have to settle on a BMW 3 series instead of the 5 series because of the tax increase. But in reality I could care less, because I'm going into public health. (which I guess makes me a hippie socialist!)
 
Obama is preaching socialism. Regardless of your agreement with that he will be taxing those individuals who have worked hard for their positions and jobs.

Not every rich person works hard for his/her money!!!

This robes the incentives and motivations to be successful and work for your accomplishments. I mean why work hard when you are being rewarded for not working.
I know you are not talking about the real world, but people being rewarded are not going to be millionaires overnight!!!

Capitalism is what America was founded on and what it needs. And yes I agree we will be making less than 250000 but when we get married and our spouse contributes that income grows scarily closer to that corporate tax cut off. Obama’s platform is attractive at the surface but please don't be ignorant think about all factors. To everyone saying money isn't everything then why are you complaining about jobs being lost? Money is a reward in a capitalistic society and it is what makes the world go round. Now that Obama has one the election I am interested in seeing how democrats respond to the claims of their party being the reason for a dwindling economy.

Money isn't everything, but it is something and I agree it makes the world go around, which is why we need to work. However, you should try talking to a person that has been laid off...how do you think he/she managed to pay the bills, buy food, educate their kids, and buy clothes to wear? If a little part of your "scarily high income" helps better the economy of this country (which highly affects the world economy), why wouldn't you contribute? Open your eyes and see that the economy has already dwindled and there is a huge mess that Obama needs to clean before we see any actual change.
 
ANY future doctors here NOT believe abortion? Do no harm.
 
policy made now affect us until they are changed. Change in policy takes time to implement and then time (time meaning almot a year or two) for most types of policy to take effect. No quick fixes, no quick changes after next election.

correct, so why are you so worried about Obama's tax Ideas. They are mere ideas at this point. They still have to pass congress and thats why you voted for you republican congressman? or did he/she lose too, oops! 🙂
 
Just reading through this thread and seeing the way some people think, i had to remind myself that I am on SDN, where supposedly, people that have or want careers dedicated to caring for others would exist. It doesn't seem to be that way....Some people feel that Obama's plans will take from "hard working wealthy individuals" and reward those that don't deserve it😱. Exactly what kind of rewards are they receiving? The extra money that wealthy or rich individuals will have to pay in taxes, does not allow a poor person to go out and buy a BMW, or a brand new house right next door to you. It only gives them the bare minimum, and some health care "so they can come see us"😀 and we are upset at that? If it's that bad, trade places with them, and live off of the handouts given by the government. Then come back and tell everyone how you have been rewarded. I highly doubt that is a reward, or even a way of life that anyone would like to have.
 
I love how all the predents on this forum act like they know politics..Everyone just relax! We're going into a great profession and things might change a little bit in the next four years but we'll be just fine.
 
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Just reading through this thread and seeing the way some people think, i had to remind myself that I am on SDN, where supposedly, people that have or want careers dedicated to caring for others would exist. It doesn't seem to be that way....Some people feel that Obama's plans will take from "hard working wealthy individuals" and reward those that don't deserve it😱. Exactly what kind of rewards are they receiving? The extra money that wealthy or rich individuals will have to pay in taxes, does not allow a poor person to go out and buy a BMW, or a brand new house right next door to you. It only gives them the bare minimum, and some health care "so they can come see us"😀 and we are upset at that? If it's that bad, trade places with them, and live off of the handouts given by the government. Then come back and tell everyone how you have been rewarded. I highly doubt that is a reward, or even a way of life that anyone would like to have.

I agree and I am glad there are people like you and me that are not in this profession solely for $$$.
 
Yesterday I saw a true leader in him. He will make our nation stronger and that's all that matters.
 
Great post.

Obama's plans do not tax the rich. Obamas's plans do not affect the rich. Obama's plans affect those individuals who have to work their butt off to get the $250-500k salary. The question remains as to whether this number is lower now -- is it the hard-working individuals who make $200k? $150k? It is not fair to distribute the wealth of anyone -- there are people who make $500k a year, and yet you people say it is completely fair to tax this person more so someone else can have a better life. What about the better life I have been working my butt off for, for over 18 years? What about the better life all the dentists and physicians and future health care providers have been working hard for, for so long. It is not about the salary to live a luxurious lifestyle. It's getting rewarded for the hard work you have done -- and those rewards are to help raise a family -- for some people, that is raising 4-5 kids, sending them through college, etc. You mean to tell me it's fair to tax the hell out of us, leave us with less money, re-distribute this so someone else can do whatever with my hard-earned salary, and then struggle to make loan payments, mortgage payments, car payments, college tuition, etc.. I don't think so. Oh yeah, and because we are apparently the rich ones, our kids can't get loans to go to college. With Obama's current plan, people are going to lose jobs -- dentists are not going to be able to keep hygienists and assistants around because they won't be able to afford to keep them. That's not fair to them either -- they are hard-working individuals who deserve their paycheck as well. They have loans to pay off and families to raise as well, and increasing taxes on small businesses (i.e. dental offices) is not going to solve the problem. You can't pay much of anything if you don't have a job. Just my opinion.
 
Do you think Obama loves dentists? CUZ I LOVE OBAMA!!! any one else???😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

Sure, he loves you. I think Obama wants to help all those who can't quite succeed without handouts from the government. Maybe he'll hand you one of those MED school admissions you've clearly given up on if you're in this forum.
 
correct, so why are you so worried about Obama's tax Ideas. They are mere ideas at this point. They still have to pass congress and thats why you voted for you republican congressman? or did he/she lose too, oops! 🙂

You make a point for me with your third sentence. With a high degree of democ. control they won't be mere ideas there killer. nonetheless, I have confidence that those in charge (D or R) are critical thinkers. I tend toward the republican party for reasons that don't seem to matter on this particular thread. Peace
 
I am really not worried about Obama's tax plan... Yet. However- I don't want him in office because of his ideologies. He is too far left for me. He has also associated with some pretty shady people. The Rev. Wright and so forth. I am not saying Obama will be a bad prez but I do think that race was the deciding factor in his election. People should treat this as a win for the American People not just African Americans. I do wish him the best though. Obama is a very likable guy too. Just my .02
 
ANY future doctors here NOT believe abortion? Do no harm.

What does this have to do with the original post?

Go ahead and PM me if you want to debate this issue, but the mainstream pretty much let you know where we stand on this issue; look at the initiative results from CO, CA, and indirectly, the gains for Democrats in both chambers.

To those who put faith in the intellect of our president-elect to trump partisan paranoia, bravo.

A briliant, highly educated man will lead the nation. A man who BARELY graduated college and a woman who glorifies airheaded "non-elitism" and ignorance thankfully will not.

Have we not learned the importance of an educated leader from the last guy in charge?
 
What does this have to do with the original post?


A briliant, highly educated man will lead the nation. A man who BARELY graduated college and a woman who glorifies airheaded "non-elitism" and ignorance thankfully will not.
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See this is my problem with people. Why do people resort to name calling and character assination when they don't agree with them....

Mccain is a good man. He served his country in the senate and Navy and would have made a fine president. Remember that "airhead" is also someone's mother and wife. A lot of people look up to her and just because you don't like her you start name calling.
 
actually, universal health care is beneficial for health professionals because we wont have to argue with insurance companies or have to wonder if different things are covered. obama is requiring that insurance companies are upfront about what is covered. also, since the insurance companies will no longer be allowed to discriminate against who is worth covering, more of our patients will have coverage, which means we dont have to worry about getting pain. the government spends billions of dollars trying to compensate health professionals for the money their patients couldn't pay them. so in actuality, obama is a good thing for our practices. in addition, if you people are seriously more concerned with paying more taxes because we'll be wealthier, than you're selfish and probably lied on you applications about caring for the community and wanting to help others. we're going to make enough money that paying a little more to help others isn't going to hurt us and its going to help society as a whole. if you're only in this for the money then you probably shouldn't even go to dental school. if you dont believe me, just let me know cause i had to write a paper on obama's plan for universal health care last year and i will gladly share it with whoever private msgs me so people can stop being so ignorant and selfish. this election made history and proving our country can get past the racism barrier and having democrats in office is worth extra taxes for those of us that will have so much money any way. he's only taxing people who made more than $250,000 a year. if you're making that much, you can afford to help out others. pull your heads out of your asses if you dont agree.
do you have personal experiance with universal healthcare?

I do. i lived in a country with universal healthcare. I can tell you from a patient standpoint it is horrible. Yes, if you have a cold or flu its great, but if you have a serious problem, your screwed. Personally, When i moved back to the US, I had to have 2 surgeries to correct what the universal health care missed. 2 surgeries that could have been avoided if universal healthcare did not suck.

and that is just from the patient standpoint.

from The professional standpoint, socialized healthcare sucks too. I have lived in it, seen it, and experianced it....
 
See this is my problem with people. Why do people resort to name calling and character assination when they don't agree with them....

Mccain is a good man. He served his country in the senate and Navy and would have made a fine president. Remember that "airhead" is also someone's mother and wife. A lot of people look up to her and just because you don't like her you start name calling.


Well, I'm sorry I hurt your feelings. I agree McCain is a great man, a patriot and a hero. That alone does not make someone a good leader. He has simply not demonstrated the level of intellectual aptitude to satisfy what I believe is necessary for a man in such a grueling position.

As for Sarah, yes, she's a great mother. There are millions of great loving mothers who raise their kids well. Does that automatically make them qualified to lead? No. When someone gets up on stage and tells me she's just like every suburban mom across America and infers that this alone makes her qualified to run the most powerful nation on earth, nausea and terror overcome me.
 
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