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Chops369 said:
Yes, it's very obvious he messed up, but that instance alone should definitely not "destroy his career." Since I live in the Boston area, the local news which is on right after Boston Med, does these cheesy follow-ups on the serious cases from the show. This week it was the baby...he is fine. If he died from complications it would be a different story, but Dr. Myers admitted his mistake and corrected it before any damage was done.

Anyways, that article isn't very shocking to me. There isn't really a need for a pediatric heart surgery program at MGH anyways with Children's 10 mins away.
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I never said it *should* destroy his career. But it was caught on film, and I don't know too many hospitals who would be happy about that so I looked into it.
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Evergrey said:
Yeah, if one of the world's best children's hospitals is next door, why have your own pediatric heart surgery program :p I'm surprised Tufts keeps theirs on, with only ~25 cases/year. That is quite a low number.
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Yeah I dont get it. Here in Philly @ HUP the adult cases are done at HUP while the congenital cases are sent across the street to CHOP.
 
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Alcibiades said:
Here's a hint, it's appropriate in the context in which I used it. ;)

If you're gonna call someone out on using a fallacy incorrectly, at least have the common decency to know whether it is in fact used incorrectly or not.

Here you go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuquoque#Inconsistency_version
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Funny part is, you posted a link to the Wikipedia entry, and you still don't appear to have read it. Ah, well.

My earlier point stands, muffin.
 
igivein said:
I never said it *should* destroy his career. But it was caught on film, and I don't know too many hospitals who would be happy about that so I looked into it.
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So I just talked to my dad (he is a pediatric cardiac surgeon) and briefed him on what I saw..here are his thoughts

An attending with such good training and all the fail safe mechanisms used in surgery today there is a very slim chance he made such a basic error...things were probably much more complicated than what was described on tv (probably just to spice up the drama)

And I agree :)
 
mitl said:
So I just talked to my dad (he is a pediatric cardiac surgeon) and briefed him on what I saw..here are his thoughts

An attending with such good training and all the fail safe mechanisms used in surgery today there is a very slim chance he made such a basic error...things were probably much more complicated than what was described on tv (probably just to spice up the drama)

And I agree :)
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It seems pretty outrageous that a highly trained doctor would put the tubes in backwards, for the lack of a better description (due to my lack of medical education). Then again, you could tell that the doctors looking at the diagnostic imaging were pretty surprised at the error that they saw, and the nanotologist(?) seemed at a loss for words.

People make mistakes I guess, and I am certainly no authority on the issue. Hopefully we can get a doctor or med student who has actually seen it to chime in (not that I don't believe your dad, but he did not actually see it).
 
chman said:
It seems pretty outrageous that a highly trained doctor would put the tubes in backwards, for the lack of a better description (due to my lack of medical education). Then again, you could tell that the doctors looking at the diagnostic imaging were pretty surprised at the error that they saw, and the nanotologist(?) seemed at a loss for words.

People make mistakes I guess, and I am certainly no authority on the issue. Hopefully we can get a doctor or med student who has actually seen it to chime in (not that I don't believe your dad, but he did not actually see it).
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Yeah I agree, my dad is a specialist BUT I am not even a med student yet so I bet things got lost in translation...:oops:

But I am always skeptical and I think we all should be of anything on tv...well because its on TV.:)

I too would like to see an opinion from someone who actually watched it..!

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What was most shocking to me was that it took two weeks to uncover the "error" which caused the baby's condition to worsen.

Thank heavens Rachel dumped her bf... I was starting to feel bad for him, even though he had it coming. Also, not a good luck when both your folks think you're "high maintenance" (i.e. b***h número uno).
 
Maybe I'm spoiled since I bought the first two episodes on itunes (to watch it on my iphone for a trip) and watched the next one online, but was there a RIDICULOUS amount of commercials this week?
 
Electronegative said:
:lol:I remember you saying that you want to go to medicine because your family expects you, and all of them are already in medicine. Almost as if it's the only thing you have to do.
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i never said that
 
The cardiologist asked "Is there any way that the pulmonary venus confluence could be connected to the right pulmonary artery?" So im guessing (with my limited knowledge) that instead of connected the PV to the left atrium like he was supposed to, he connected it to the PA which obviously aint right. Really felt bad for the surgeon (and the baby/parents too obviously), the look on his face was painful just to watch.
 
pkpHawks87 said:
The cardiologist asked "Is there any way that the pulmonary venus confluence could be connected to the right pulmonary artery?" So im guessing (with my limited knowledge) that instead of connected the PV to the left atrium like he was supposed to, he connected it to the PA which obviously aint right. Really felt bad for the surgeon (and the baby/parents too obviously), the look on his face was painful just to watch.
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:( Me too. Of course I felt bad for the baby because of what he had to go through. But I also felt bad for the surgeon because looked like he was about to cry when he was looking at the pictures. He probably was asking himself how he could let that happen! But I agree with the mom in the show, we are all human and in the end, the surgeon got the job done. All is well :)
 
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I'm bumping this thread because the last episode was tonight.. that face transplant was incredible. I wish they'd showed more of the actual surgery though. What'd you guys think?
 
Episode tonight was fantastic! Makes one appreciate what one has.

It did seem like they were trying to almost "sell" signing up to become an organ donor though a bit.

I think I will sign up to become an organ donor.
 
once said:
Episode tonight was fantastic! Makes one appreciate what one has.

It did seem like they were trying to almost "sell" signing up to become an organ donor though a bit.

I think I will sign up to become an organ donor.
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They should definitely sell the idea of being an organ donor. You couldn't have successful results like we saw tonight without them. I'm now also considering becoming an organ donor.
 
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I was looking at profiles of other doctors on the show and what I found surprising was the number of doctors that did not go to any of the top schools....in fact a quite a few actually went to Caribbean medical schools

How did they land residency and attending positions at these top programs..?

I always though schools like harvard and hopkins give precedence to their own grads...
 
bigbad said:
U MAD?

I don't understand the whole bashing Caribbean schools thing. She seems like a good doctor.

And I'm trying to keep my options open, haters gonna hate.
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Naw, but:

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Who's bashing? :rolleyes:
 
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mitl said:
I was looking at profiles of other doctors on the show and what I found surprising was the number of doctors that did not go to any of the top schools....in fact a quite a few actually went to Caribbean medical schools

How did they land residency and attending positions at these top programs..?

I always though schools like harvard and hopkins give precedence to their own grads...
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Which ones, out of curiosity?
 
Which ones, out of curiosity?
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Daniel DiBardino: Wayne State University School of Medicine
Jonathan Daniel: .Michigan State University College of Human Medicine.
Prashant Shah: St. George's University School of Medicine
Amy Rezak: Ross University School of Medicine (2001)
Rachel Clark: Emory Univ (I was kind of surprised)
Kelly Wright: Texas A&M

-Good schools but not top 10-20
 
mitl said:

Daniel DiBardino: Wayne State University School of Medicine
Jonathan Daniel: .Michigan State University College of Human Medicine.
Prashant Shah: St. George's University School of Medicine
Amy Rezak: Ross University School of Medicine (2001)
Rachel Clark: Emory Univ (I was kind of surprised)
Kelly Wright: Texas A&M

-Good schools but not top 10-20
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Why were you surprised, I'm just curious...

An aside, I think it's important to consider that not everyone from a T20 med school desires a spot at a T20 hospital/residency. Some people design there match lists to be closer to home, to be with a SO, serve a certain community etc. I don't think that hospitals have med school preference, much like undergrad school attendance doesn't improve ones chances of the same university's med school acceptance. Every leg of the way is just another chance.

BOT: So, about that face transplant...

Is the season over? That wasn't much of a finale if so.
 
thumbsucker said:
Why were you surprised, I'm just curious...

An aside, I think it's important to consider that not everyone from a T20 med school desires a spot at a T20 hospital/residency. Some people design there match lists to be closer to home, to be with a SO, serve a certain community etc. I don't think that hospitals have med school preference, much like undergrad school attendance doesn't improve ones chances of the same university's med school acceptance. Every leg of the way is just another chance.

BOT: So, about that face transplant...

Is the season over? That wasn't much of a finale if so.
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Yeah, its over. The last five minutes was just clips from past episodes showing the different people they covered.
 
The last episode was much better compared to others, less personal life and more hospital action.
 
Electronegative said:
The last episode was much better compared to others, less personal life and more hospital action.
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I agree that the hospital action last night was great, but I really appreciated seeing the personal aspect to the show as well. Being a physician definitely affects personal lives, so it was great that they explored this and also explored the interaction between various physicians. It was also great to see a little about the patients' lives as well. As much as I loved the actual medical procedures, I was pleased that this wasn't 100% the focus. If I wanted to see 100% hospital action I could just flip to, for example, the discovery health channel.
 
Poliscidoc said:
Maye a med student, intern, or somebody can answer my question. But how do you screw that up or is it common?
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It's hard to speculate about the nature of the heart malformation but it seems like it was some unusual form of anomalous pulmonary return...the veins from the lungs weren't plugged into the heart right. There must have been confusion or miscommunication about the nature of the "plumbing" and the surgeon attached vessels incorrectly. I doubt it's too common of an occurrence, but I'm sure it's a definite risk with these types of malformations. And I bet this risk is amplified statistically when one hospital selectively operates on only the most difficult cases.
 
Zoom-Zoom said:
It's hard to speculate about the nature of the heart malformation but it seems like it was some unusual form of anomalous pulmonary return...the veins from the lungs weren't plugged into the heart right. There must have been confusion or miscommunication about the nature of the "plumbing" and the surgeon attached vessels incorrectly. I doubt it's too common of an occurrence, but I'm sure it's a definite risk with these types of malformations. And I bet this risk is amplified statistically when one hospital selectively operates on only the most difficult cases.
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I missed this episode so sorry if this post is totally unrelated, but has anyone read "How Doctors Think"? I literally just got done reading the chapter (The Uncertainty of the Expert) that talks about a new born whose vessels weren't properly attached to the heart and the baby wasn't getting any blood flow into the heart. In this case "The umbilical vein connected to the large portal vein in the child's belly, and the portal vein somehow was connected to the pulmonary vein in the chest".

Is it possible that the doctor just encountered a rare case similar to this one?
 
mitl said:
I was looking at profiles of other doctors on the show and what I found surprising was the number of doctors that did not go to any of the top schools....in fact a quite a few actually went to Caribbean medical schools

How did they land residency and attending positions at these top programs..?

I always though schools like harvard and hopkins give precedence to their own grads...
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Yeah, but the problem is you're looking only at the profiles of the 20 or so doctors on this show. There are roughly 2000 doctors at BWH, MGH, and Children's (each). Of those, I'm sure a sizable number came from "top" medical schools.
 
Wait, am I listening correctly? There are PRE-MED students trying to Bash Harvard fellows (because they went to the Caribbean)? LOL.
 
HOLD ON HOLD ON !!! :nono:

I was not bashing anyone I just had this pre-conceived notion that a lot of medical students continued at the same university from where they graduated and I was a bit surprised BUT its not true...and I was wrong

eah, but the problem is you're looking only at the profiles of the 20 or so doctors on this show. There are roughly 2000 doctors at BWH, MGH, and Children's (each). Of those, I'm sure a sizable number came from "top" medical schools.
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and this
 
TriagePreMed said:
Wait, am I listening correctly? There are PRE-MED students trying to Bash Harvard fellows (because they went to the Caribbean)? LOL.
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Only on SDN... :rolleyes:

Ridiculousness aside, I loved this episode. It was really interesting getting to see the donor's wife's perspective on the whole process. I was also amazed by how good Isabelle Dinoire looked.
 
No one was bashing. Take the stick outta your a55, pleaze. ;)
 
Vadoff said:
Yeah, I thought he was cool.

But wow, was that Pina Patel annoying. So whiny...
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Pina is a text-book example of how anyone can be self-indulgent on camera. Dr. Patel is an attention-seeker, moreso than the others. Perhaps, her parents were working very hard in their family business(?).

I truly don't appreciate how she was giddy when she gossiped to her friend that a patient was stabbed by his wife, but clarified that she's not smiling.

Moreover, why is trying to act like the "mature-member-of-the-household" archetypical reality-TV show star? She's annoying and gross.
 
I think she's hot.
 
zut212 said:
Pina is a text-book example of how anyone can be self-indulgent on camera. Dr. Patel is an attention-seeker, moreso than the others. Perhaps, her parents were working very hard in their family business(?).

I truly don't appreciate how she was giddy when she gossiped to her friend that a patient was stabbed by his wife, but clarified that she's not smiling.

Moreover, why is trying to act like the "mature-member-of-the-household" archetypical reality-TV show star? She's annoying and gross.
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Um, harsh.

Secondly, she wasn't "gossiping" to an attending (if I remember correctly) about it. They had the same patient and he happened to be a routine domestic abuser. Apparently, this time, she stabbed him. I actually found it pretty humorous too. Of course I understand that violence/abuse isn't exactly a laughing matter.

She is hot, Hoody.
 
PetitAllegro said:
Only on SDN... :rolleyes:
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gujuDoc said:
Like the other poster said, only on SDN. But I'd add that its not only SDN but only PREMEDS. People who have no real experience with the system.
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If either of you had taken the time to read the latest post by that person (and I don't know how you could've missed it since he/she posted several hours before these two posts), you'd realize that he/she explains that the post wasn't meant to be bashing and was posted due to a preconceived notion. Not only that, he/she admitted to being wrong (which is rare on SDN).
 
gujuDoc said:
1. I love how someone else also attacked him and you only quoted my post instead of the others who also felt the same as I did.

2. Regardless of whether they apologized or not it was not just them but so many premeds out there which come off this way and its so stupid and annoying the things they say. I mean I have friends who while are nice people don't seem to get it that DOs, MDs from islands, etc. are capable of making it. I've seen other premeds outside of SDN that are like this.

if you read my post, you'd see that I said only premeds including non SDNers and its true. I've seen people tell me they won't go to a DO even though that DO may have gone to the same residency as an MD and don't consider them real doctors. I've seen epople go on making fun of island doctors credentials but they went through a US residency the same as a US trained MD did.

Its just ridiculous some of the things I've heard and that post was one post that illustrated what is wrong with the mindset of a lot of premeds to me.

Go find someone else to attack if you need to because I'm not the only one who was upset by the person's posts.
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Yikes! First of all, I didn't mean to come off as "attacking" you. I apologize if it looked like that; it wasn't my intention. Second of all, I didn't just quote your post. Please take a look at my post and you'll immediately realize that you weren't the only person who was quoted. So, I'm not sure why you thought I was targeting just you.

My only intention was to point out that the poster (who caused you and others to react the way you did) commented on his/her reason behind the post, etc, and that there's no need to continue making posts like "only on SDN," etc. Once again, it was not meant as an attack. Not on you. Not against Petit. I can't be any clearer than this.
 
Now now people, let's not get your undies in a bunch. My post was meant to point out, in a comedic way, that FMGs from the Caribbean can become very good physicians. Maybe I came off as one of those anti-FMG/DO people because my post had some comedic value to it, but it was really meant to show those that are actually anti-FMG/DO that you can become a great physician even if you go to a non-US MD school. :D


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That surgeon rocks hah
 
gujuDoc said:
Yeah see what I said above. There was yet another thread about this show last year and someone posted on that other boston med thread that they are documenting New york Presbyterian hospital system this year instead of Harvard hospitals.

I think the point of the series is to pick a different famous hospital every year and do a documentary each year.

so this year its new york. Maybe one year they'll go to stanford or UCSF or WashU or something.
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Yes, I believe that they are currently filming at New York Presbyterian Hospital.
 
hiyaman said:
Wow had no idea she went to Ross lol.
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There was a cardiothoracic surgeon featured on the show who went to St George. I guess it just depends on how well you do on the boards. It shouldn't matter where you study the basic sciences, on the beach or in some basement at a US med school. LOL Plus they do all of their clinical training at US hospitals. Good for them!
 
Thirteeen said:
There was a cardiothoracic surgeon featured on the show who went to St George. I guess it just depends on how well you do on the boards. It shouldn't matter where you study the basic sciences, on the beach or in some basement at a US med school. LOL Plus they do all of their clinical training at US hospitals. Good for them!
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Well, it does matter. There are huge advantages to graduating from a US med school vs. the Caribbean.
 
searun said:
Well, it does matter. There are huge advantages to graduating from a US med school vs. the Caribbean.
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Well, based on their residency match list, it doesn't appear to me that there is a significant difference or advantage. However, I am grateful for your humble opinion. ;)
 
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