CVS supervisor position being eliminated?

[KimChiSlap]

How do you find that out?

This sounds really crazy

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[mentos]

Believe or not this is great for CVS pharmacist. WAGS did this in 2015 and it proved to be much better for both pharmacy manager and staff rph. We no longer have Pharmacy supervisor breathing down our neck and pressuring us to meet KPIs. We have much more freedom and independence. You'll have fewer people in charge and they will have to supervise so many stores that they won't have time to nitpick about everything little issue. Matter of fact, I get to see my current supervisor maybe once every 4 months or longer.

This is CVS. They will find a way to make it as miserable as possible for pharmacists.

 

[imcallingcorp]

The reason they are making these cuts is because filling scripts is becoming less profitable. The sups getting cut is just a symptom of the real problem, and the real problem will eventually impact everyone. I could care less what they do to middle management but the fact that they have to do this is concerning.

100%. too many pharmacists is only half the problem. reimbursement is just as much, although i wonder if they pay themselves better than others from caremark plans. if any body doesn’t know caremark administers medicaid plans in NY who payed so bad that everyone dropped them except obviously the red devil and indys. about a month ago any generic rx all of a sudden meant you lose money often times substantial amounts. pbms are half our problem they take the profits pharmacies should make and savings payers should get. they bleed the system. anyway rant over

 

[mikejones123]

lol I was wondering why I didn’t get any emails from my Sup about BS metrics this week

I guess he stopped drinking the koolaid finally

 

[mgarph]

haha this is great! this is why my old sup is being placed in my old job as PIC of the ****tiest store, glad I left to greener pastures

 

[luwical]

what happens to emerging leaders? What is their new title?

 

[Lnsean]

this was straight out of Walgreen's playbook. We eliminated RX supervisors like 2-3 years ago.

 

[doublehh03]

this was straight out of Walgreen's playbook. We eliminated RX supervisors like 2-3 years ago.

It's more than that. 4 AVPs got demoted. Lots of LP and field trainer positions are also eliminated. It's massive.

 

[Lnsean]

It's more than that. 4 AVPs got demoted. Lots of LP and field trainer positions are also eliminated. It's massive.

ahh damn. didn't know that. is this because of the Aetna merger?

 

[CetiAlphaFive]

what happens to emerging leaders? What is their new title?

" Customer"

 

[6GodPharm]

" Customer"

They didn’t fire emerging leaders lol

Everything will be done at corporate level. They kept some DM’s that have no license. Legal and Regulatory all done by them. One the Store Manager position is moved then next will be this “District leader” crap. We’ll all just report to corporate.

 

[owlegrad]

It's more than that. 4 AVPs got demoted. Lots of LP and field trainer positions are also eliminated. It's massive.

But without field trainers who will completely fail to teach new employees anything useful?!

 

[doublehh03]

ahh damn. didn't know that. is this because of the Aetna merger?

The Aetna merger is definitely the primary reason for all these cost savings measures. They're also piloting the delivery method so that's going to cost a lot.

Honestly, they should have done this a long time ago. Most of middle management is absolutely useless.

 

[CetiAlphaFive]

The Aetna merger is definitely the primary reason for all these cost savings measures. They're also piloting the delivery method so that's going to cost a lot.Honestly, they should have done this a long time ago. Most of middle management is absolutely useless.

It's funny that any of the former Target RxBPs are surprised.

I told one of the emerging Rx BPs to be that I didn't expect any OG Target staff to survive past 2 years.

 

[ChalupaBatman86]

The field management RIF will make no difference in the day to day operations or profitability of your pharmacy. In other words...

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[mnoble]

The rx sups used to come in as last resort to prevent pharmacies from not opening when there was a call out. I know our supervisor has done it 4-5 times this year, so not insignificant but not necessarily critical to have that last resort option available.

 

[CetiAlphaFive]

The rx sups used to come in as last resort to prevent pharmacies from not opening when there was a call out. I know our supervisor has done it 4-5 times this year, so not insignificant but not necessarily critical to have that last resort option available.

That seems silly.

They can always have that company RPh To Go pull somebody with a 3 digit license number out of their crypt to come in and work.

 

[WVUPharm2007]

It's funny that any of the former Target RxBPs are surprised.

I told one of the emerging Rx BPs to be that I didn't expect any OG Target staff to survive past 2 years.

Speaking of which, how is this affecting the Target side of things? Anybody know? Are they ever just going to be folded in with the other CVSs?

 

[owlegrad]

A lot of them are actually pretty scared because they know NOTHING about being a pharmacist and, thus, NOTHING about how to manage one.

Heck it’s probably a disadvantage to know how to be a pharmacist. I don’t know how any pharmacist could possibly pretend that the doctor calls are really a pharmacist-only value added function. Or how to say with a straight face that wecare is actually a reflection of how much you care about your patents. It’s probably a lot easier to drink the Kool-Aid when you haven’t been on the receiving end.

 

[doublehh03]

Speaking of which, how is this affecting the Target side of things? Anybody know? Are they ever just going to be folded in with the other CVSs?

Demand hours are being cut already, with no warning.

 

[luwical]

I heard that Target Upper Management was severely cut. I don't know if this is true.

 

[6GodPharm]

Speaking of which, how is this affecting the Target side of things? Anybody know? Are they ever just going to be folded in with the other CVSs?

Not combined with core stores yet. Key word is yet. They kept all target sups and RM’s but they cut everyone above that level and those guys after that report to core management is the only difference.

Everything is being done at corporate level. All you have to do as a “district leader” now is be a cheerleader. Everything is done at corporate level. Misfills, customer complaints, legal and regulatory and c2-5’s missing. You don’t need to be a pharmacists to be a “district leader”.

 

[CetiAlphaFive]

Speaking of which, how is this affecting the Target side of things? Anybody know? Are they ever just going to be folded in with the other CVSs?

I can provide 1-store insight.
~2 years later and everyone from my team has jumped ship.
They can't secure a PIC and have had new grads getting ground up.

As far as Target Pharmacy that turned into CVS in general:
The Rx Sups that were Target BPs had an extremely difficult time adjusting to CVS.
I'll be surprised if a single one survives this culling.
At least two Target pharmacies in this district shut down since cvs took over.
My regular CVS friend told me that his Rx Sup in San Antonio complains about the Target locations pretty often

I heard that Target Upper Management was severely cut. I don't know if this is true.

Regional manager I knew is still around

 

[ericn2k3]

Edit* question answered.

 

[jack rabbit]

this was straight out of Walgreen's playbook. We eliminated RX supervisors like 2-3 years ago.

CVS RPH salary freeze in 3...2..1....

 

[mentos]

ahh damn. didn't know that. is this because of the Aetna merger?

Probably. Anytime a merger/acquisition occurs, mass layoffs follow. Not just in pharmacy, but with all businesses.

 

[BidingMyTime]

The reason they are making these cuts is because filling scripts is becoming less profitable. The sups getting cut is just a symptom of the real problem, and the real problem will eventually impact everyone. I could care less what they do to middle management but the fact that they have to do this is concerning.

This. Cutting middle management means less pharmacist jobs for everyone.

 

[VeraJ]

Would supervisors be able to displace current pharmacy managers or staff pharmacist?

 

[VeraJ]

EL’s should be so upset. What will CVS say to make them feel better about all the unpaid extra work some of them have done for years.

What a scam!

 

[ChalupaBatman86]

Don’t worry people, as soon as that new tax bill passes lowering the corporate rate they are going to rehire all those people and increase wages across the board.


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[6GodPharm]

EL’s should be so upset. What will CVS say to make them feel better about all the unpaid extra work some of them have done for years.

What a scam!

Well at least in CA we got paid for all that extra work.

 

[CetiAlphaFive]

EL’s should be so upset. What will CVS say to make them feel better about all the unpaid extra work some of them have done for years.
What a scam!

Hahaha, they don't call it "selling your soul to the devil" for no reason.

 

[jballer91]

It's funny that any of the former Target RxBPs are surprised.

I told one of the emerging Rx BPs to be that I didn't expect any OG Target staff to survive past 2 years.

They can't get rid of Target Supervisors, can they, since Target stores don't have a DM position..? And I believe most of the Target sups have 20+ stores already. I know they did consolidate a lot of the regional management earlier in the year so guess can't completely put it past them.

 

[Amphetamine Salts]

i've been told that the pharmacy supervisor for my store got fired, she's the one that e-mailed me a month ago to let me know that my pharmacy internship will be terminated on march 1st. it turns out that she has been terminated before i have been, a little ironic

 

[Saiyo]

I think its pretty terrifying for our profession that all these changes and cuts are happening so fast with multiple companies. The good times are over.

 

[Acid11]

As far as Target Pharmacy that turned into CVS in general:
The Rx Sups that were Target BPs had an extremely difficult time adjusting to CVS.
I'll be surprised if a single one survives this culling.
At least two Target pharmacies in this district shut down since cvs took over.

Now is this the entire Target store closing down, or just the RX dept? I wonder if it is b/c there is a standalone in the same parking lot?

 

[VeraJ]

Aetna deal approved today. Thoughts?

 

[doublehh03]

Aetna deal approved today. Thoughts?

Not good for store level employees. Expect massive hours to be cut. CVS will invest more on their Minute clinics in the coming years utilizing this buyout.

 

[6GodPharm]

Not good for store level employees. Expect massive hours to be cut. CVS will invest more on their Minute clinics in the coming years utilizing this buyout.

They won’t fire any pharmacist. This has little impact on the store level (demand cut but thay affects techs not us). Upper management reform was first and now Store Managers will be next. Honestly a store manager is worthless. A lot of online degree guys who give the pharmacist **** for no reason. Honestly i’m happy with all this. Every single person who this is happening too had it coming. I don’t feel bad at all.

 

[doublehh03]

They won’t fire any pharmacist. This has little impact on the store level (demand cut but thay affects techs not us). Upper management reform was first and now Store Managers will be next. Honestly a store manager is worthless. A lot of online degree guys who give the pharmacist **** for no reason. Honestly i’m happy with all this. Every single person who this is happening too had it coming. I don’t feel bad at all.

Demand cuts will totally affect us. That has huge impact at the store level. I didn't mean firing employees. Less hours will reduce team morale in the pharmacy.

 

[Momus]

Don’t worry people, as soon as that new tax bill passes lowering the corporate rate they are going to rehire all those people and increase wages across the board.


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I am sure that's the first thing in their mind XD.

Corporations make all the money. Peons don't make sh1t. Invest you must....

 

[Gombrich12]

I am sure that's the first thing in their mind XD.

Corporations make all the money. Peons don't make sh1t. Invest you must....

America is a giant casino, would you rather play at the tables or buy a stake in the house is what I ask people.

 

[dblock05]

i've been told that the pharmacy supervisor for my store got fired, she's the one that e-mailed me a month ago to let me know that my pharmacy internship will be terminated on march 1st. it turns out that she has been terminated before i have been, a little ironic

Well, she probably has good marketing skills to land another job unlike yourself.

 

[minette]

ahh damn. didn't know that. is this because of the Aetna merger?

Probably...Aetna also started laying off employees

 

[CetiAlphaFive]

Well, she probably has good marketing skills to land another job unlike yourself.

Lol, former emerging leader spotted

 

[Old]

Well, she probably has good marketing skills to land another job unlike yourself.

Where are all the past EL's of CVS? You know the ones that posted on here how their store was the best. They went to all the problem stores and fixed them in a week. The people on here that believed that CVS was God and they were sitting on the right hand of Merlo. All bright lights and fame ahead for them. Where are they now? Gosh I hope they are not back on the bench with the reality that that will be their entire career. Or maybe worse?

 

[VeraJ]

Where are all the past EL's of CVS? You know the ones that posted on here how their store was the best. They went to all the problem stores and fixed them in a week. The people on here that believed that CVS was God and they were sitting on the right hand of Merlo. All bright lights and fame ahead for them. Where are they now? Gosh I hope they are not back on the bench with the reality that that will be their entire career. Or maybe worse?

I’m so glad I didn’t fall victim to the whole EL scam! My sup and DM had been asking me to join for 2 years. I didn’t because I just couldn’t justify working for free on my off time just to seemingly advance their career. My sup never had time to actually go through the key learning experiences with me, but he certainly had time to tell me about all the projects he wanted me to do for him.

 

[VeraJ]

Ha, I just remembered he tried to tell me to think of the EL program like getting a BA, except I wouldn’t be stuck in a classroom. I’d be getting real life experience, taught by top professionals in the field, for free!

 

[lane one]

i've been told that the pharmacy supervisor for my store got fired, she's the one that e-mailed me a month ago to let me know that my pharmacy internship will be terminated on march 1st. it turns out that she has been terminated before i have been, a little ironic

You should pop some amphetamine salts to celebrate...

 

[VeraJ]

i've been told that the pharmacy supervisor for my store got fired, she's the one that e-mailed me a month ago to let me know that my pharmacy internship will be terminated on march 1st. it turns out that she has been terminated before i have been, a little ironic

Why did your internship get terminated?