Official 2014-2015 Hematology/Oncology Fellowship Application Cycle

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I've actually been pleasantly surprised how cheap flights are. I'm flying bicoastally on most weekends (east to west and back east) and these are only $400 for 3 flights - I have to do this twice so far. My biggest trip I'm flying east to west to south to east and then finally home is only $600 (4 flights). Not sure how it is coming out of the midwest though.
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I have a question about applications being available to programs vs being downloaded - I've heard people talk about their applications being downloaded
My application was uploaded onto ERAS on 7/15 and I do not know if they have been downloaded (ADTS only has "date available to programs") by the programs that I've applied to (around 15); can anyone let me know if there is a way to know if the application has been downloaded or if programs have looked at it (maybe post a screenshot of ADTS )
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Date available = Date they could download it (i.e., your CAF was done)
Downloaded = well...please don't make me say it

There are reportedly some changes to the way that some programs see apps this year (the Web-based version is being trialled by some programs) so I can't comment for certain, but at least with the old system, once it was downloaded, that was all you knew. They may have dl'd it, shut off the computer and gone on vacation for 3 months for all you knew. There is (or at least wasn't as of last year) to know if anybody had ever bothered to read your app. The apps of those who get interviews and those who are screened out by filters will look the same to the applicant "Downloaded by program".

This is the reason I always harp on people to have their apps in as early as possible. You never know when, or how many times, a program will log on and download apps. Some do it every day, some will do it once or twice. If you're hat's not in the ring when that happens, you lose.
 
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Date available = Date they could download it (i.e., your CAF was done)
Downloaded = well...please don't make me say it

There are reportedly some changes to the way that some programs see apps this year (the Web-based version is being trialled by some programs) so I can't comment for certain, but at least with the old system, once it was downloaded, that was all you knew. They may have dl'd it, shut off the computer and gone on vacation for 3 months for all you knew. There is (or at least wasn't as of last year) to know if anybody had ever bothered to read your app. The apps of those who get interviews and those who are screened out by filters will look the same to the applicant "Downloaded by program".

This is the reason I always harp on people to have their apps in as early as possible. You never know when, or how many times, a program will log on and download apps. Some do it every day, some will do it once or twice. If you're hat's not in the ring when that happens, you lose.
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This is where I know one problem with my application is. I initially applied to around 45 programs on 07/15, however, I realized to late that my application was not strong enough for a majority of the programs. My PD was really convincing when he said to only apply to 35 programs (I showed him my list). I wish on 07/15 I had applied to 75-80 programs that I know I would have liked including all my reaches. I later added another ~15 programs. While there is still time for some of the reaches to come through, I think my advise for next years applicants (especially mid-tier applicants) is to forget about the money and apply to a TON of programs.:bang:
 
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#13: Roger Williams - Boston University Program
Starting to wonder if I should have applied to 90 programs...
 
Opinion on Brown vs NSLIJ in regards to overall strength? Overall interested in academics (malignant heme and thoracic oncology) with a focus on clinical trials. Brown seems to be a great program, but they rotate outside of BMT? I couldn't find much on the NSLIJ website, but they seem to be a very busy program. Any input would be great.
 
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Whoa...late night Columbia invite!
 
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Opinion on Brown vs NSLIJ in regards to overall strength? Overall interested in academics (malignant heme and thoracic oncology) with a focus on clinical trials. Brown seems to be a great program, but they rotate outside of BMT? I couldn't find much on the NSLIJ website, but they seem to be a very busy program. Any input would be great.
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Brown, while technically a Univ program, operates somewhat like a community program and yes, their BMT rotation gets farmed out (enjoy that...if I'd only had to do one BMT month as a fellow I would have had a much better first year). That said, they have a pretty respectable clinical research arm (BrUOG) and the 2 people I know who have gone there liked it.

NSLIJ is basically Kanti Rai (and hangers on) and a bunch of community oncologists. Not that there's anything wrong with that (I, after all, am a community oncologist with an academic appointment to help salve my modest pay). But a good friend of mine who did fellowship there (and then did an EM residency after a few years as an attending there...and is now a FT EM doc) told me that you're basically either in the CLL group, or you're out there moving the meat and seeing everything else.

For my money, I'd go with Brown, but it's not like either of them are either horrible or just one notch below Dana Farber.
 
gutonc said:
Brown, while technically a Univ program, operates somewhat like a community program and yes, their BMT rotation gets farmed out (enjoy that...if I'd only had to do one BMT month as a fellow I would have had a much better first year). That said, they have a pretty respectable clinical research arm (BrUOG) and the 2 people I know who have gone there liked it.

NSLIJ is basically Kanti Rai (and hangers on) and a bunch of community oncologists. Not that there's anything wrong with that (I, after all, am a community oncologist with an academic appointment to help salve my modest pay). But a good friend of mine who did fellowship there (and then did an EM residency after a few years as an attending there...and is now a FT EM doc) told me that you're basically either in the CLL group, or you're out there moving the meat and seeing everything else.

For my money, I'd go with Brown, but it's not like either of them are either horrible or just one notch below Dana Farber.
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I wish I had this type of insight! Does anyone have any impression of training at USC or the city of hope program? I'm looking for a program that trains me well to ultimately do phase 1/2 work.
 
Longhorn21 said:
I wish I had this type of insight! Does anyone have any impression of training at USC or the city of hope program? I'm looking for a program that trains me well to ultimately do phase 1/2 work.
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I'm fortunate to have had friends who trained at those particular places, (un)fortunately, not that many of my friends are oncologists though so my program N isn't very large.

WRT learning to do Phase I studies, you're going to need to go somewhere that has a reasonably well-established Phase I program. Phase II/III stuff is "easy" to figure out but Ph I is a whole different beast. UT-San Antonio and Wayne State-Karmanos are two places people don't often think of. I have a friend who interviewed at CoH and didn't like it but have no other information about it.
 
Any opinions on Mayo and Northwestern? I am interested in basic science research and it seems like Mayo does quite a bit of clinical work.
 
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Any opinions on Mayo and Northwestern? I am interested in basic science research and it seems like Mayo does quite a bit of clinical work.
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Mayo is much more clinically oriented (I mean, they don't call it Mayo Clinic for nothing). There is also a more or less required 4th year at Mayo.

Both are great programs though.
 
Hello friends,

I am interested in liquid/leukemia. Although, I would like to know over all strength for following programs.

East Carolina University program
Lehigh Valley health network
St. Elizabeth, boston, MA
Med. college of wisconsin (MCW)
Univ. of Rochester
Univ. of Kentucky
MUSC
univ of Cincinnati
univ of florida(gainesville,fl)

Thank you very much
 
Hi guys,
I am new to SDN. I am an IMG on J2 visa. Have 1 poster presentation and 1 paper in process of publication. Got only 1 interview so far. I have not yet given my step 3 and was wondering if that could be the reason for not getting many interviews, or is it just my CV. Any opinions would be appreciated.
Thanks
 
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What do you think of medical oncology only fellowships?
In terms of job market afterwards? I know some med oncologists who are in practice with a group and doing both hem and onc.
 
Hey guys, so I still only got 1 invite and 2 rejections. Applied only in the north east. My main issue of course is my visa. I have 6 pubs and 2 ASCO presentations and a chief year... starting to really get worried especially that I see more interviews from the north east being posted. You guys think my visa issue is the main thing? Or maybe my letters are not so great (I thought they'd be good... but I guess one can never know...)
 
Any one out there with an Invite from St. Louis University? They took forever to download applications too; prob. have internal applicants this year !!
 
Do any of you with USC invites get any info about interview day from the program coordinator ?
 
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+1 for Loyola. And well done DrVanNostran! Seems like they're rolling in for you!
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Haha thanks. Hit a nice steak in the last two days. I'm hoping a few nci centers come thru in the next couple weeks.

How many interviews do you think you are going on? I was originally thinking 10. I might do more depending on proximity.
 
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Do any of you with USC invites get any info about interview day from the program coordinator ?
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I didn't. I emailed the coordinator to ask and haven't heard back. I just booked my flight out of LA for the next day to be on the safe side..
 
Columbia Presbyterian too. Interview # 20. I am cancelling 7 interviews today.
 
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I'm fortunate to have had friends who trained at those particular places, (un)fortunately, not that many of my friends are oncologists though so my program N isn't very large.

WRT learning to do Phase I studies, you're going to need to go somewhere that has a reasonably well-established Phase I program. Phase II/III stuff is "easy" to figure out but Ph I is a whole different beast. UT-San Antonio and Wayne State-Karmanos are two places people don't often think of. I have a friend who interviewed at CoH and didn't like it but have no other information about it.
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Thanks @gutonc . I don't know many people in heme/onc - those I know all want to go into practice afterwards so they're training at places accordingly. It's been hard to assess which programs will allow for much phase I/II experience based on websites/faculty profiles on websites so i'm hoping to learn more on interview day. Unfortunately, it makes me feel unprepared walking into the interview..
 
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