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psilovethomas said:
You should never do this! It's just not worth it.. I know it's hard not too because it's usually an impulsive reaction. I've seen people do it, and they have never been hurt, but man was it close!
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yup. A rabies pole or a hose works better.
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one of my classmates lost his dog today, so very sad for him. he adopted the puppy our first semester of vet school and used to bring him to anatomy lab where we just adored his presence! he had the biggest ears and was just the sweetest little dog. why can't our pets live forever? or at the very least have long and healthy lives, not ones cut too short by fate. :cryi:
 
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one of my classmates lost his dog today, so very sad for him. he adopted the puppy our first semester of vet school and used to bring him to anatomy lab where we just adored his presence! he had the biggest ears and was just the sweetest little dog. why can't our pets live forever? or at the very least have long and healthy lives, not ones cut too short by fate. :cryi:
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One of my classmates just had an (otherwise healthy, maybe 3yo?) dog just keel over dead today. Getting necropsied, but they have no idea what happened. Seriously, what the hell, world?
 
Not sure why this is annoying me so much right now... but my aunt was asking about my major.. and wondering if it is similar to the dental hygienist program her sister in law is doing.. it's probably bugging me more than usual because she asked me something similar just a couple months ago and I explained it to her then.. I hate when people ask question to pretend like they are interested, not listen, and then ask some more annoying questions. I guess I need to get used to that.
 
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One of my classmates just had an (otherwise healthy, maybe 3yo?) dog just keel over dead today. Getting necropsied, but they have no idea what happened. Seriously, what the hell, world?
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so awful. its just not fair! these guys should at least get a long and happy lifespan. life is so cruel.

as profoundly and deeply affected as i still am after nearly 1.5 years, i admit that i probably need some serious therapy. but theres this thing called 4th year that prevents me from pretty much doing anything for myself, sooo it is what it is. :shrug:
 
"Acute" bronchitis (8 weeks later):diebanana:
Also, girl scouts are evil. They are sabotaging my attempt at healthy eating.
 
I am on the verge of telling my boyfriend he needs to re-evaluate his priorities. He graduated last summer with his degree for mechanical engineering with a lowerish GPA, around a 3.0 exactly I think, and still hasn't gotten a job. I'm not talking engineering jobs. I understand those are difficult to find and be competitive for. I'm talking a job at all. He stays home pretty much all day every day and plays WOW. He complains he doesn't have money and gets headaches. Well, yes, dear, you will be broke if you don't work and you will get headaches if you stare at a computer screen all day. We both still live with our respective parents, but it has started to really annoy me that he doesn't want to get an "in between job" for even part time because he doesn't want to 1) work for minimum wage (with having absolutely no bills or concerns except our occasional dates) and 2) be (and I quote) "too tired to apply for a real job after work". Really? I got a 9 dollar an hour job at a doggy boarding place for 21 hours a week when my mom lost her business and my dad was laid off. I applied to 20 jobs a day. He is aiming for 3 applications a week. I love him dearly, but the difference in work ethic is our biggest point of contention. His parents are getting annoyed (his mom tried to convince him to come with me to a birthday party in my college town so he would leave the house), my mom has openly been negative about it, and I am getting to the point where I am passive aggressive when he makes a "I'm bored", "I'm broke", "I have a headache comment". I need to have a serious talk with him about it but it is hard to find an amicable opening.
 
psilovethomas said:
"Acute" bronchitis (8 weeks later):diebanana:
Also, girl scouts are evil. They are sabotaging my attempt at healthy eating.
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Rant: I cant find any girl scouts. Want cookies. want cookies now. I'm tired of doing walmart and grocery store drive-bys and am totally starting to feel like an addict
 
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batsenecal said:
I am on the verge of telling my boyfriend he needs to re-evaluate his priorities. He graduated last summer with his degree for mechanical engineering with a lowerish GPA, around a 3.0 exactly I think, and still hasn't gotten a job. I'm not talking engineering jobs. I understand those are difficult to find and be competitive for. I'm talking a job at all. He stays home pretty much all day every day and plays WOW. He complains he doesn't have money and gets headaches. Well, yes, dear, you will be broke if you don't work and you will get headaches if you stare at a computer screen all day. We both still live with our respective parents, but it has started to really annoy me that he doesn't want to get an "in between job" for even part time because he doesn't want to 1) work for minimum wage (with having absolutely no bills or concerns except our occasional dates) and 2) be (and I quote) "too tired to apply for a real job after work". Really? I got a 9 dollar an hour job at a doggy boarding place for 21 hours a week when my mom lost her business and my dad was laid off. I applied to 20 jobs a day. He is aiming for 3 applications a week. I love him dearly, but the difference in work ethic is our biggest point of contention. His parents are getting annoyed (his mom tried to convince him to come with me to a birthday party in my college town so he would leave the house), my mom has openly been negative about it, and I am getting to the point where I am passive aggressive when he makes a "I'm bored", "I'm broke", "I have a headache comment". I need to have a serious talk with him about it but it is hard to find an amicable opening.
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I know this isn't what you want to hear, but .... you should just move on. If he's got no motivation and work ethic now, it's not going to magically develop, and this is gonna bug you for as long as you two are together.

Cut your losses.

I know, it's kinda blunt mean advice from someone who doesn't really know the situation (which, of course, dictates how seriously you should take it), but.....

Best of luck whatever you do. Relationships can be a drag sometimes.
 
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LetItSnow said:
I know this isn't what you want to hear, but .... you should just move on. If he's got no motivation and work ethic now, it's not going to magically develop, and this is gonna bug you for as long as you two are together.

Cut your losses.

I know, it's kinda blunt mean advice from someone who doesn't really know the situation (which, of course, dictates how seriously you should take it), but.....

Best of luck whatever you do. Relationships can be a drag sometimes.
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That is definitely what my mom said, and she wasn't any nicer about it. And this opinion is exactly why it bothers me so much. It isn't just total strangers like you who don't know the situation that feel this way. He and I have known each other since freshman year of high school and dating since freshman year of undergrad. My mom and several close friends who do know the situation pretty well are pretty much in agreement with you at this point. My mom said point blank that he isn't good enough for me (so don't worry about sounding mean or harsh; mama bear's got that covered). It says something if people who know the situation pretty well are saying that I should consider other options, even though we have been dating for four years and have talked about moving in together and eventually getting married. We've never had a legit argument, so I guess I am just afraid of approaching the problem at all. But you're right. There is a point where I have to say that we can't keep living with our parents forever and that he has to man up and get a job to help out or I have to keep going with my life. Starting next fall, I am planning on going full time for work, so I will be able to move out (albeit to a creepy, decrepit apartment, but moved out none-the-less). He isn't going to be moving with me if he doesn't have something to offer in the way of bills being paid.

Thanks for the sentiments, though, I do really appreciate them. There has to be a reality check to everything cause love doesn't pay the bills, unfortunately.
 
I would personally approach him about the subject, straight up and without beating around the bush. If it's important to you, then he needs to know about it, and start making steps towards betterment. Maybe make a point that it's not just his life that will be improved by working towards his preferred career, but a better life for the both of you in the future.
 
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I feel like I'd be friends with y'all in real life. lol. Thank you.
 
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That is definitely what my mom said, and she wasn't any nicer about it. And this opinion is exactly why it bothers me so much. It isn't just total strangers like you who don't know the situation that feel this way. He and I have known each other since freshman year of high school and dating since freshman year of undergrad. My mom and several close friends who do know the situation pretty well are pretty much in agreement with you at this point. My mom said point blank that he isn't good enough for me (so don't worry about sounding mean or harsh; mama bear's got that covered). It says something if people who know the situation pretty well are saying that I should consider other options, even though we have been dating for four years and have talked about moving in together and eventually getting married. We've never had a legit argument, so I guess I am just afraid of approaching the problem at all. But you're right. There is a point where I have to say that we can't keep living with our parents forever and that he has to man up and get a job to help out or I have to keep going with my life. Starting next fall, I am planning on going full time for work, so I will be able to move out (albeit to a creepy, decrepit apartment, but moved out none-the-less). He isn't going to be moving with me if he doesn't have something to offer in the way of bills being paid.

Thanks for the sentiments, though, I do really appreciate them. There has to be a reality check to everything cause love doesn't pay the bills, unfortunately.
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This sounds so much like my best friend from high school's boyfriend. He was so lazy and I didn't even "know" him that well and told my friend that he is super lazy and she deserves better and she got offended. They had known each other since freshman year of high school and he was the "best" boyfriend ever, despite me knowing that she really could do better, she never listened. A LOT of drama happened that freshman year of undergrad between them (including a pregnancy we won't go into details with how it turned out) then after that she finally told me how much he bothers her. He would go home to his mom all the time, she would do all his laundry for him (he took it home with him), he never cleaned, never did anything but play video games. Unfortunately for my friend she moved to be with him, lost her full ride college scholarship to do so, dropped out of college, never finished, and now works an awesome job at Home Depot... oh and she broke up with him about 4 months after moving in with him.... so she lost everything to be with him and has nothing to show for it.

Not saying you will fall into that scenario, I really don't think you will, but I agree with everyone else, time to have a serious discussion with him about growing up and being a big boy with a job and everything. As one of the vets told her sister when her sister would complain about not having money: "McDonald's is hiring, I don't want to hear it, go apply, I don't care if you think you are too "old" or "good" for that a job is a job and unless you have tried applying everywhere, no complaining."
 
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Rant: I cant find any girl scouts. Want cookies. want cookies now. I'm tired of doing walmart and grocery store drive-bys and am totally starting to feel like an addict
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There's an app for that! http://www.girlscouts.org/program/gs_cookies/mobile_app.asp And I feel your pain, I missed out on Girl Scout cookies for about 3 years in a row, although I didn't really make an effort to try to find them. Luckily this year I happened to catch one of my coworkers passing around the sale sheet for her daughter.
 
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First time ranter! Today in my OChem lab, our strange lab tech spouted off how veterinary medicine was an unnecessary profession, and if an animal is sick, then they should just be shot. I tried to start a healthy dialogue on the ethics in vet med and the different attitudes people have about animals that makes the profession interesting and challenging for a practitioner, but he had zero interest. It has been a while since I've met someone who had little interest in animal healthcare. He said I would be better off selling meth or being a call girl than pursuing veterinary medicine. I wanted to tell him that I prefer to take advice from people who don't have so many holes in their shirts!

A fellow student and I are both pre-vet, and we were just chit chatting during an experiment and she talked about how the orthopedic specialist at her job performed an ACL surgery on a dog, and someone affiliated with her clinic tries to raise money for clients who can't afford surgeries for their pets, to which another (non pre-vet) student replied "How about helping the children in Africa?" I'm assuming she didn't feel helping animals was worth anything? I didn't reply because I have to work with these people for another few months, but how infuriating for someone to put down the raison d'être of a whole profession! And my future profession!
 
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That is definitely what my mom said, and she wasn't any nicer about it. And this opinion is exactly why it bothers me so much. It isn't just total strangers like you who don't know the situation that feel this way. He and I have known each other since freshman year of high school and dating since freshman year of undergrad. My mom and several close friends who do know the situation pretty well are pretty much in agreement with you at this point. My mom said point blank that he isn't good enough for me (so don't worry about sounding mean or harsh; mama bear's got that covered). It says something if people who know the situation pretty well are saying that I should consider other options, even though we have been dating for four years and have talked about moving in together and eventually getting married. We've never had a legit argument, so I guess I am just afraid of approaching the problem at all. But you're right. There is a point where I have to say that we can't keep living with our parents forever and that he has to man up and get a job to help out or I have to keep going with my life. Starting next fall, I am planning on going full time for work, so I will be able to move out (albeit to a creepy, decrepit apartment, but moved out none-the-less). He isn't going to be moving with me if he doesn't have something to offer in the way of bills being paid.

Thanks for the sentiments, though, I do really appreciate them. There has to be a reality check to everything cause love doesn't pay the bills, unfortunately.
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The lines of communication have to be open enough for you to feel comfortable talking to him about things that bother you. It doesn't have to be a fight or anything, but your concerns are valid and he should be willing to listen to them and do something about it. Communication is one of the single most important aspects of a relationship, especially if you're considering things like moving in together or marriage. You have to be able to talk to him about these kinds of issues because they are going to come up. I would lay out your concerns and give him a chance to do something about it, but like LIS pointed out, work ethic doesn't really just appear out of nowhere. That kind of disparity in your motivation levels is just asking for resentment to develop.
 
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I read an email wrong and had it in my head that we had until 9 to do a quiz yesterday... Instead the email said 5pm until March 9.. Professor emailed me back this morning and said he wasn't gonna let me take the quiz. So mad at myself for not double checking, and missing that. 10 points down the drain.
 
batsenecal said:
I am on the verge of telling my boyfriend he needs to re-evaluate his priorities. He graduated last summer with his degree for mechanical engineering with a lowerish GPA, around a 3.0 exactly I think, and still hasn't gotten a job. I'm not talking engineering jobs. I understand those are difficult to find and be competitive for. I'm talking a job at all. He stays home pretty much all day every day and plays WOW. He complains he doesn't have money and gets headaches. Well, yes, dear, you will be broke if you don't work and you will get headaches if you stare at a computer screen all day. We both still live with our respective parents, but it has started to really annoy me that he doesn't want to get an "in between job" for even part time because he doesn't want to 1) work for minimum wage (with having absolutely no bills or concerns except our occasional dates) and 2) be (and I quote) "too tired to apply for a real job after work". Really? I got a 9 dollar an hour job at a doggy boarding place for 21 hours a week when my mom lost her business and my dad was laid off. I applied to 20 jobs a day. He is aiming for 3 applications a week. I love him dearly, but the difference in work ethic is our biggest point of contention. His parents are getting annoyed (his mom tried to convince him to come with me to a birthday party in my college town so he would leave the house), my mom has openly been negative about it, and I am getting to the point where I am passive aggressive when he makes a "I'm bored", "I'm broke", "I have a headache comment". I need to have a serious talk with him about it but it is hard to find an amicable opening.
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This sounds exactly like my ex. I was always working super hard in undergrad to get my good grades and make it into vet school, and he was never working hard at school at all, or anything else other than his video games. My mom basically told me what yours is telling you, but then he broke up with me when I left for vet school... Anyway, six months later and he's still living at home doing nothing with his life. He at least has a temporary job now but it doesn't look like he has any real plans to find a career any time soon... It's a tough situation.
 
Ashgirl said:
Had my first rabies vaccine today and didn't die. Whoo! :D
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The fever and massive headache I woke up with this morning is almost making me retract this statement... :dead:
 
My mom's dog was just euthanized... I can't say that I'm surprised given that she was 15 years old and was having renal issues, but it still stings. A lot. I spent the majority of my childhood and adolescence with her, and she was one of my best friends.

I think the part that hurts the most, though, is that, being two hours away at school, I couldn't be there with her when she passed.
 
Nalikti said:
My mom's dog was just euthanized... I can't say that I'm surprised given that she was 15 years old and was having renal issues, but it still stings. A lot. I spent the majority of my childhood and adolescence with her, and she was one of my best friends.

I think the part that hurts the most, though, is that, being two hours away at school, I couldn't be there with her when she passed.
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I'm so sorry to hear that :(. Sending my thoughts your way!
 
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I'm so sorry to hear that :(. Sending my thoughts your way!
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Thank you so much. I very much appreciate it.

I took an hour or so before my last class today (Organic 2) to let my feelings go and grieve. I've dried up since then, and I'm already beginning to come to terms with it. I'm starting to feel a little better.

I do miss her already, though...
 
Having one of those days where I just feel like I'm not smart enough for this and that nothing I've studied in the past 2.5 years has sunk in. And it's raining so I just want to sit in my bed with a tub of ice cream and watch movies.
 
an old acquaintance posted this video on facebook and i no longer know her well enough to jump on the crazy train and tell her why this video is so terrible. pet obesity is a serious and very heavy issue in our pet population today. this video makes people feel like there is something wrong with feeding your dog specially formulated dog food. it makes them think it is okay to feed your pet tons of crap, and that there aren't any consequences. its not like the dog gets fat, right? a dog fed only human food (in this context, not in a specially formulated diet via nutritionist) will be malnourished. it will likely be obese. it sends the message that the way to love is through food, and that your dog will love you more with treats.

and yes, i realize this is not the intended take away from this movie, but guess what? people are easily influences.
 
jmo1012 said:
an old acquaintance posted this video on facebook and i no longer know her well enough to jump on the crazy train and tell her why this video is so terrible. pet obesity is a serious and very heavy issue in our pet population today. this video makes people feel like there is something wrong with feeding your dog specially formulated dog food. it makes them think it is okay to feed your pet tons of crap, and that there aren't any consequences. its not like the dog gets fat, right? a dog fed only human food (in this context, not in a specially formulated diet via nutritionist) will be malnourished. it will likely be obese. it sends the message that the way to love is through food, and that your dog will love you more with treats.

and yes, i realize this is not the intended take away from this movie, but guess what? people are easily influences.
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It's Feast, a short shown at the beginning of Big Hero 6. I think it's super cute - obviously not teaching good feeding habits, but adorable and heartwarming. And in their defense, there is a disclaimer at the end saying to adopt shelter pets and feed them responsibly. :p
 
Ashgirl said:
The fever and massive headache I woke up with this morning is almost making me retract this statement... :dead:
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I had some pretty bad reactions to the rabies vaccines. It only got worse with each shot. Can you schedule the next two during times when you can take a day or two off to relax? Hopefully you recover quickly!
 
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I had some pretty bad reactions to the rabies vaccines. It only got worse with each shot. Can you schedule the next two during times when you can take a day or two off to relax? Hopefully you recover quickly!
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Unfortunately, it's only offered at one specific time, and the last one is the day before the start of 4 exams.... :lame: Not the best choice, that's for sure.
 
Also bummed that my newish pair of leather boots that I got for Christmas might have been ruined by the rain today mixing with left over salt on the ground. They were waterproofed recently too.
 
psilovethomas said:
You should never do this! It's just not worth it.. I know it's hard not too because it's usually an impulsive reaction. I've seen people do it, and they have never been hurt, but man was it close!
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Learned that the hard way....my first animal injury happened when I tried to break up a cat fight between the clinic cat and a patient who was brought in without a carrier. I stuck my clipboard between the two, and the clinic cat used his teeth and claws to climb up my arm.

My rant: I really want to go somewhere with my boyfriend before I start school. 1. I don't think I'll even be allowed time off. We haven't had any applications for our tech opening, and things are getting rough enough with just 2 weeks of being understaffed. 2. Am I crazy for wanting to spend money on a trip when I've got debt in the future? 3. I'm getting really sick of my practice manager acting like she has some special effect on aggressive animals. "He's probably being an a** because I'm not the one holding him and he senses that." Really? Every time you hold a dog or insist on jumping in and taking a dog out of my arms, the dog fights you just as much. The cats scream and hiss just as much. :bang:
 
orca2011 said:
Having one of those days where I just feel like I'm not smart enough for this
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Just compare yourself to me. You'll feel better about yourself in no time.

I spent a significant chunk of time in an appointment today responding to a client's concerns about poisoning and realized I had been saying melarsomine the whole time. I meant, of course, melamine.

See? You're feeling better already.
 
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LetItSnow said:
Just compare yourself to me. You'll feel better about yourself in no time.

I spent a significant chunk of time in an appointment today responding to a client's concerns about poisoning and realized I had been saying melarsomine the whole time. I meant, of course, melamine.

See? You're feeling better already.
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Bahahaha! I don't know bout you up there in the north, but Heartworm is beat into us from practically day one down here in OK, so it is perfectly reasonable to me that you would make that mistake.
 
LetItSnow said:
Just compare yourself to me. You'll feel better about yourself in no time.

I spent a significant chunk of time in an appointment today responding to a client's concerns about poisoning and realized I had been saying melarsomine the whole time. I meant, of course, melamine.

See? You're feeling better already.
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Hahaha. A bit. Haven't done that yet. I will actually admit that I had to google melarsomine because pretty sure I've only ever heard the trade name used.
 
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Bahahaha! I don't know bout you up there in the north, but Heartworm is beat into us from practically day one down here in OK, so it is perfectly reasonable to me that you would make that mistake.
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That is one thing I can do well. I give a pretty good "you need to be on HWP year round" speech.
 
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Learned that the hard way....my first animal injury happened when I tried to break up a cat fight between the clinic cat and a patient who was brought in without a carrier. I stuck my clipboard between the two, and the clinic cat used his teeth and claws to climb up my arm.

My rant: I really want to go somewhere with my boyfriend before I start school. 1. I don't think I'll even be allowed time off. We haven't had any applications for our tech opening, and things are getting rough enough with just 2 weeks of being understaffed. 2. Am I crazy for wanting to spend money on a trip when I've got debt in the future? 3. I'm getting really sick of my practice manager acting like she has some special effect on aggressive animals. "He's probably being an a** because I'm not the one holding him and he senses that." Really? Every time you hold a dog or insist on jumping in and taking a dog out of my arms, the dog fights you just as much. The cats scream and hiss just as much. :bang:
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Would it be possible to quit your job a bit early and take a vacation shortly before leaving for school? You could give some excuse about needing time to pack and get moved if you think your boss would put up a fuss about you quitting earlier than necessary. But really, I don't think they have the right to give you a hard time about quitting at any time for any reason, as long as you give two weeks' notice.

And I don't think it's crazy at all to want to take a vacation at this point, assuming you have the money right now. You deserve to celebrate your acceptance, relax, and do something fun before the daily grind of vet school hits. As long as you spend your money wisely and don't plan a super extravagant getaway, it shouldn't make that much of a difference in your debt down the road.
 
Or DO a super extravagent getaway... granted I haven't started repaying loans so I'm not regretting it yet but I went on a long vacation right before vet school and reliving those memories kept me sane first semester. :shrug:
 
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Or DO a super extravagent getaway... granted I haven't started repaying loans so I'm not regretting it yet but I went on a long vacation right before vet school and reliving those memories kept me sane first semester. :shrug:
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Yep, went to Maine myself and stuffed all the lobsters in my mouth. I still go back and look at my pictures and the rocks I pulled from the surf to bring me out of my doom and gloom.
 
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I went to Disneyland and Las Vegas... it was worth it. I have been to Vegas since because you can do Vegas fairly cheap, but haven't been back to Disneyland and it might be some time before I can, so I am glad that I went.
 
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First time ranter! Today in my OChem lab, our strange lab tech spouted off how veterinary medicine was an unnecessary profession, and if an animal is sick, then they should just be shot. I tried to start a healthy dialogue on the ethics in vet med and the different attitudes people have about animals that makes the profession interesting and challenging for a practitioner, but he had zero interest. It has been a while since I've met someone who had little interest in animal healthcare. He said I would be better off selling meth or being a call girl than pursuing veterinary medicine. I wanted to tell him that I prefer to take advice from people who don't have so many holes in their shirts
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Are you sure your lab tech wasn't trying to be funny or playful? Suggesting that you'd do better selling drugs or prostituting yourself seems like a humorous exaggeration that's meant to get a rise out of you.
 
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Would it be possible to quit your job a bit early and take a vacation shortly before leaving for school? You could give some excuse about needing time to pack and get moved if you think your boss would put up a fuss about you quitting earlier than necessary. But really, I don't think they have the right to give you a hard time about quitting at any time for any reason, as long as you give two weeks' notice.

And I don't think it's crazy at all to want to take a vacation at this point, assuming you have the money right now. You deserve to celebrate your acceptance, relax, and do something fun before the daily grind of vet school hits. As long as you spend your money wisely and don't plan a super extravagant getaway, it shouldn't make that much of a difference in your debt down the road.
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I've thought about it...but I don't want to burn any bridges. The doctor has offered me a returning position over school breaks, and I'd like to have the income throughout the year during vet school. However, I've mentioned before that I'm not totally happy where I'm at for various reasons.

The problem with doing my vacation in the summer is my boyfriend is only willing to go anywhere if we go in the last week of April. If we don't hire a tech by then, I doubt they'd let me have time off. We're thinking of going on a shortish cruise....Carnival has some 4-days for ~$300 per person. So nothing too crazy....although I'd love to make my way back to Disney World.
 
(Not) Dear Classmate: Shut up. Just stop. I don't care what your opinion is. The rest of the rotation doesn't care what your opinion is. And stop having opinions on things you know nothing about. Stop having opinions about anything, actually, since every time your mouth opens, the rest of us roll our eyes bracing for the self-important, condescending tripe that's about to fall out. If you want to make it through the next two and a half weeks without being slapped, just keep your trap shut.
 
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I'm trying really hard in my global health class to be completely factual and unbiased when discussing food and agriculture. It's really difficult because the instructor is either knowingly or unknowingly expressing opinions as fact. The other day I sent him on a question spiral when he said to the class that "organic food is healthier." I voiced my disagreement and then repeated some of the findings of articles I've read in the past about nutritional content and environmental impact. Then I blew his mind by stating that organic crop farmers still use pesticides and fertilizers - a misconception that always bothers me.

I wish more people had some general education in agriculture. This class is mostly public health grad students and med students and the instructor is an MD. I'm the only one with a science based agricultural background. Luckily, I'm not the only vet public health person though, so I don't have to always field the animal questions.
 
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