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  1. classof2011

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    I figured I'd kick off the thread to sharing our rank lists.

    Here's mine.

    1) UTSW Dallas
    2) Mt Sinai
    3) Emory
    4) UNC
    5) Duke
    6) UMD Shepp


    DNR list, Jeff, G town, Pitt, Northwestern

    Reasoning (edited): I was going for high quality academics, big city features (most times without the people), and high bennies/low cost of living situation so that I could turn my lifestyle into one that involves Yoga, Organic diet, irradiated meats, etc. Healthy nutting is my thing and I need a program that would be allow me to continue it whether it be work/life balance and salaries to sustain such a lifestyle. Also, the PEOPLE!, the only factor that activates my gut. So I see now how your list will not make any sense to an outsider. And as digitalnoise touches on, it depends on who you are!






    Don't be shy guys ..if programs are rearranging their lists based on who they think may be behind this profile they need to be doing much less stalking/lurking and more finding of ways to make their programs better! IJS
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  2. JabsterL

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    Nice idea, I really applaude your courage and tranparency classof11! What wonderful options indeed! Think I'll post mine after 2100 just in case..
  3. digitlnoize

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    I will also be posting late tonight, or early tomorrow morning. I'm just too paranoid, lol. I've waited this long, I can wait a few hours longer...
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    Okay:

    Yale
    Duke
    Emory
    Case
    Vanderbilt
    HSS

    Totally happy with that list.
  5. classof2011

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    Nice! Hope you get your Yale!
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    1. Mayo
    2. Vanderbilt
    3. UTSW
    4. Harvard Southshore
    5. University of Virginia
    6. Creighton/U of Nebraska
    7. University of Iowa
    8. Henry Ford


    I'm excited!!
  7. digitlnoize

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    Hope everyone is certified. The NRMP Ranking System appears to be down for now...
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    Wow, it looks like Harvard South Shore has definitely stepped their game up from previous years...its impressive to see it pretty high 2 of 4 lists posted this year...Go HSS!! Congrats to anyone here who may be apart of that success!
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    This is me being paranoid... I don't have to do anything after I've certified, correct?
  10. classof2011

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    Only one thing: CHILLAX! until Match day!
  11. digitlnoize

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    Right? I'm doing the same thing...

    Certified, Paid, and Verified. Make sure all those things are present, and I think you're done.

    Eek. :claps:
  12. classof2011

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    At least now we know the people who are making the system crash! LOL! :idea:
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    and then rinse and repeat...chillax until late June/July 1 when we gotta start all over -- this time as lowly clueless interns (but at least this time we finally get PAID, tho prolly adds up to like $0.25/hour minus the loans and opportunity costs of all those extra years in school but still it's a start and beats the $0.15/hour going rate for the surgery interns...)
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  14. digitlnoize

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    Actually, if the program abides by the work hour rules:

    45k per year / 52 weeks / 80 hours per week =

    $10.82/hour

    Most programs pay more than that, and work less than that.

    50k/year / 52 weeks / 60 hours per week =

    $16.03/hour

    Incidentally, that's almost exactly what I was paid per hour at my old job, which I left to go to medical school. The difference is that I worked 40 hours per week then, and didn't get nearly as many benefits. 3 weeks vacation = sweet!
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    Good luck to all of us!
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    1- Einstein/Beth Israel NY
    2- St. Luke's-Roosevelt NY
    3- UIC
    4- Michigan
    5- Maryland
    6- Colorado
    7- Rush
    8- Wisconsin
    9- Cincinnati
    10- Tulane
    11- Unviersity of Chicago
    12- Wright State
    13- MCW
    14- Case Western
    15- Maine Medical Center
    16- UMass
    17- Thomas Jefferson
    18- Cleveland Clinic

    Good luck everybody!
  17. JabsterL

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    1. Miami
    2. Maryland/Sheppard Pratt
    3. Emory
    4. SUNY Downstate
    5. Rosalind Franklin
    6. Univ. of Florida
    7. Creighton/Univ. of Nebraska
    8. Wayne State
    9. West Virginia Univ. (Morgantown)

    Y'all were absolutely right when you said months ago these lists wouldn't make sense to anyone but the person who made em...so far, I've def been taken aback n had to take a 2nd look at everyone's list on here (to go along with the thousandth look at my own) cuz none (including my own to this second) make much logical sense to me...I imagine most everyone is also feelin this way lookin at other peoples' lists that you wouldn't have done it that way yourself?
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  18. classof2011

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    Holy Crap, JL! how many suits do you have? How much did you spend on dry cleaning?:laugh:
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    Whoa....is Nemeroff making the spot hot like that nowadays?? ;)
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    Whew! I bet there is a PD somewhere shuffling around their ROL right now after all of these posts....:rolleyes:
  21. JabsterL

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    I'm a SoFloridan n while I really enjoyed my short interactions with Nemeroff (kudos to Splik btw on the "porn mustache" observation...), MIA really needs no help in terms of hotness...:p
    btw he did mention that UTSW is his main rival residency program, so if we both end up at our #1 do we then have to be rivals cuz I really don't wanna care bout his recruitment beefs even if he becomes my boss??

    fortunately, too late now Class --tho u did post yours wayyy earlier in the day so u mighta got reshuffled in your non-#1s you merely told you'd be "ranking highly" ;)
    btw is anyone else feelin super relieved and a sense of accomplishment tho we really didn't do much but just have a deadline pass on somethin we had mostly finalized weeks if not months ago...it's just now we finally CAN'T dwell on this stupid list anymore -- or at least do anythin bout it -- and that feels like the biggest relief of all...well, that n the excitement that it's just 3.5 weeks now til we know where we're goin...finally can see the light at the end of the med school tunnel :)
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  22. digitlnoize

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    Not anymore! Ranking is DONE!!!

    1. UVA
    2. USC-Palmetto
    3. MUSC
    4. Indiana
    5. U Kentucky
    6. Virginia Commonwealth Univ.
    7. U Iowa
    8. Med Coll. Wisconsin
    9. Vanderbilt
    10. Wake Forest
    11. West Virginia
    12. East Carolina
    13. Carilion Clinic (Roanoke, Va)

    Honestly, all of these are great programs in their own regard. ECU and Roanoke are admittedly backups, but both have very nice people, and I think decent training despite their "less well regarded" status.

    I forgot to mention: I did not rank SUNY-Upstate or Penn State-Hershey. SUNY-Upstate just wasn't a good enough fit for us to justify the terrible weather and the program drama going on. Hershey just wasn't my cup of tea. Hated the area, don't think the program is very good, and almost every person in the program is Indian...and although I love my Indian friends and co-workers, I don't think I would fit in with the culture of the residency. On interview day everyone was talking about Cricket, lol...but were very nice. I don't think it's a "bad" place, but again, not for me. And I had too many places on my list anyways.

    #'s 1-11 are all amazing, amazing, top-notch places, and any one of them could've been our #1.

    Reviews will be forthcoming over the next few days. I'll also try and update that main catalog page on the "super thread" to show all the reviews, etc.

    In defense of us high-interviewers: I managed to interview regionally, during away rotations mostly. I did USC-Palmetto and MUSC while working at Palmetto, and did ECU on the way home from there. Did a road trip to WVU -> Ohio State (car got broken into here...grrrr...cancelled interview, went home, and interrupted trip...but it should've been, and became after a stop back in Virginia:) -> UK -> Indy 2nd Look. Live in Virginia, so UVA, VCU, and Roanoke were easy.

    I also spaced interviews out A LOT. I basically had one per week from late Sept until mid Dec. Almost all on Mondays (which gave the weekend to travel, and allowed less days missed from rotations). Then a few more after Xmas. Again, well spaced out. Dry cleaned suit during breaks or weeks off. Really didn't do it too much. I was pretty careful not to get it dirty or smelly (i.e. changing out of it as soon as possible and not spilling stuff on it).

    I only few to Indy, Iowa, and MCW (all from Virginia). A new frequent flyer card with 40k bonus miles paid for much of the flights. Got one flight from my Dad's extra FF miles. Overall, didn't wind up costing that much. Car gas and meals were my biggest expense. Most hotels were paid by programs.

    Overall, I'm very happy. We are really hoping for UVa, mainly because this is home and my daughter will be HEARTBROKEN to leave her friends and school here, and my wife loves her well-paying job. But, if it doesn't happen, we could do worse than the other places on our list...
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  23. classof2011

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    HAHAHAHA!, I love myself some Splik! Clearly he has diarrhea of the mouth.....I gotta give for this one though, that was such a PORN mustache! LOL!


    Hmmm, I didnt know that. I guess they will both be aspiring to be the psychiatric "research powerhouses of the south". I dont know though, I didnt interview at Miami but obviously I can assume Nemeroff will be trying to turn the house into a paper churner. Interesting. I guess we could be rivals for fun though since it seems that everyone else does it, especially in the North....
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  24. spinnerette

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    Nice lists, guys. All excellent programs.

    I won't post mine unfortunately because people can definitely identify me with that.... (I am not paranoid)
    I will tell you guys where I end up come match day =D

    Good luck everyone!
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    see, this is just one example of what I'm talkin bout by a bafflin list..Out of SC programs, I woulda never thought anyone would ever choose Palmetto over MUSC...then again, u're a married man with kids so your thinkin is way different than mine as a single dude who loves southern belles. Charleston has one of the highest girl/guy ratios in the nation, not to mention beautiful beaches n heaven for foodies -- and o btw a stellar program I've heard by many to be the Best in the South, tho don't get me wrong I've heard greatness bout Palmetto too -- just not the other aforementioned goodies nor the BITS title...I'd love to see how my list humors/utterly would confuse others as well, as I pretty much know for a fact at least Digit woulda made some way different moves given my options than I did...
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  26. digitlnoize

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    See? Don't get me wrong, I loved MUSC too...and if I was single, it'd definitely be higher on the list. But I know the Palmetto training is good (I worked there one month, and worked with a graduate another month who LOVED his experience there and was a very impressive doc) AND they have a schedule that would let me see my family most days of residency, which is unheard of.

    MUSC certainly commands more academic power, but I have no interest in research, and the job market post-residency in Charleston kinda sucks (or is almost nonexistent), so that bumped it down. Moving after my C&A fellowship would mean moving after my daughter's Sophomore year of High School, which is a terrible time to move...Also, lower pay, worse benefits, higher cost of living, and busier schedule all contributed to the decision.

    Actually the tough decision there was putting Indy #4. I loved IU. A lot. Probably my favorite PROGRAM (if I was single). Indy is also a great city, but we'd wind up living in the 'burbs, which have great schools, but a 1/2 hour plus commute. Which would suck, on top of an already fairly busy (but reasonable) work schedule. It's also far from home, with crappier weather, and the worst pollution of any city on our list (and we have fairly bad allergies, wife has some mild asthma I don't wanna make worse, etc). Still, won't be sad to wind up there. Great, great program.

    Again, My top 10 are all amazing programs. I really feel like my rank list is:

    1. UVA
    2. #'s 2-10 above
    3. ECU
    4. Roanoke

    VCU is probably higher than it deserves, but we decided that it's a decent program and we'd all rather live in Richmond, close to home where we have friends, than move across country to Iowa or Milwaukee (brrrrrr). Love U Iowa though. If they were out this way...sigh.

    It was hard making many of these decision. Really, really hard. Loved Vandy too. None of these programs deserves to be #9 or 10 on the list...but someone had to be. Vandy lost for family reasons, mostly. Big city, poor job market for my wife, relatively poor schools, crime, traffic (OMG the traffic!), and a reputation for working pretty darn hard (although I actually believe it is reasonable, but more than my other places). Also, loved Dr. Fuchs, but with her leaving as adult PD, it scared me a tiny, tiny bit. Still wouldn't hate winding up there either, lol.

    MCW would've been #3 if it wasn't so darn cold there. OMG, brrrr. Great program for family life though. Nice people, strong training.
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    i'm so paranoid i did the list correctly. i'm not signing on again until later tonight.
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    I signed on to see what would happen. If you click on "My Rank List," It just shows your list and the certified sign in green. There are no move buttons or the search box.
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    I know exactly what you mean. All we can do is rationalize our lists if we do dwell. :oops:
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    1. North Shore-LIJ
    2. Stony Brook
    3. St. Luke's-Roosevelt
    4. Mt. Sinai
    5. NYU
    6. Einstein/Montefiore
    7. Einstein/Beth Israel
    8. Maimonides
    9. UMDNJ-RWJ

    Good luck everyone!
  31. digitlnoize

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    Right? On that note, some quick rationalizations:

    1. UVA: Home. Good program. Could be more robust on the inpatient side (at least in-house), but great state hospital exposure (although it's a drive). Wish they had a VA, but I want to do child, so not a huge loss for me. Nice people, turn out very good docs, many of whom I've worked with. Love the child program more than the adult honestly, but adult is good too. If I wasn't from Cville, and had no family ties here, and didn't live here right now, I'd be very concerned about cost of living, small city, traffic, and such. Program works a bit harder than I would like, and isn't quite as robust as say, MUSC, but I'm willing to put up with that for the HUGE benefits of staying at home. Wife can keep her job, kid can stay in school. We know the area, the mechanics. My Step-Dad also has health issues, so I'd like to be around for that. I've already had to save his life once by dragging him to the hospital when he was septic...sigh. One of those stubborn patients that won't call or go to the doctor unless they're dying...

    2. USC-Palmetto: Great for people with families that still want good training. Excellent work life balance. Not cold. Great pay and benefits (retirement matching after year 1!). Great moonlight opportunities. Nice places to live for families, decent schools. Amazing people. Happy place. Considered very strongly for #1, even if it meant displacing the family.

    3. MUSC: Best weather arguably on the east coast. Warm winters and not too bad summers for the south. Great training. Loved the facilities, the night float system that means no short call situations, just 2 months of horrible night float 1st and 2nd year. Great family city. Biggest (only?) negative is the psych job market post-graduation and lack of moonlighting. Very close race between MUSC and Indy. Still unsure of the placement here, but they're both awesome, so whatever. I'd be just as unsure the other way around too.

    4. Indiana: Monorail! MONO-rail! Loved the people, both faculty and residents. Loved the city. Lots of different training sites, relatively close together = some pains, but good diversity. Great place. Only negatives for us were distance and big city. Considered VERY strongly for #1 and #2. Probably #1 for "gut feeling," but logic and family issues won out. Really tough call between here and #3 MUSC.

    5. U Kentucky: Similar to Indy in a lot of ways. Great program, loved the people. Nice new hospital, but much of training is at the old one. Still, residents are happy, hours are decent, and training is good. We could be very happy in Lexington, we really liked the area. Good cost of living. Daughter loves horses, lol.

    6. Virginia Commonwealth University: I wouldn't go here for any other specialty but psych. Much of the hospital has a quasi-malignant atmosphere, but I have it on good authority that the psych program is the one good one in the hospital, and I trust my sources. Also felt pretty good about the interview day, loved the Chairman. Know the city very well, 1 hour from home and family. Might even be able to convince the wife to live in between Richmond and Cville and dual commute each way so she can keep her job, the kid can keep her school, and 2x the chance of stability. Almost considered ranking it #2 for this reason, but the program wasn't quite THAT good. Biggest negative for me was the mostly urban, underserved patient population (not quite my cup of tea) and the 2 weeks vacation (but 30 sick days make up for it...go figure). Ultimately, we decided we'd rather be here than in Iowa, Milwaukee, etc...despite the programs in those places probably being better than VCU. Too many other good things about VCU (job contacts for wife, TONS of friends there, family very close) and the program was good ENOUGH to warrant the placement here over marginally better programs with numerous location disadvantages (#7-11), and worse programs (#12-13).

    7. U Iowa: Think MUSC but in Charlottesville, but now Charlottesville is in Iowa instead of Virginia. That's pretty much this program, with all the attendant advantages and disadvantages this confers. Small town (good and bad), very far away, cold windy winters and hot humid summers, horrible parking I hear, but great training, very biological (maybe too much?), great people. Very safe area. Lacks diversity. Great post-residency options. $$$. Almost put this as high as #5. Seriously considered putting above VCU and was very, very close to that. Still not sure...same old story. Good enough.

    8. Med Coll. Wisconsin - Brrrrrr. Other than that, very awesome. Didn't LOVE milwaukee. 20% hispanic population scares me. My spanish isn't THAT good, or I would've applied to Miami, lol. More concerned with the weather and the fact that we didn't seem to find any area there we'd love living in, although we could certainly make do. Downtown was very cool and offered some nice options though. But I'm not 25 anymore. Excellent work life balance, and good reputation for training though. Did I mention the weather?

    9. Vanderbilt: Loved the program, the residents, and the faculty. Didn't like Nashville. Have many music friends who live there and aren't huge fans either, but have to for work. Traffic there is NOT fun. Thought I was going to die driving in. Worse than DC, IMO. Program has a reputation for working a hair too much for a family guy, but we'd be willing to do it if need be. Still an "up and coming" program. Maybe we'll see what the new PD can do, whoever it will be. Worried a bit about Fuchs leaving, but not much. Debating ranking much higher, but family schedule is too important too me.

    10. Wake Forest: Crazy 1st year call schedule that adheres to the letter of the new work hour rules, but not the spirit. Work 8am-2pm, off from 2pm-10pm, then work 10pm-2pm the following day. No post-call day. Also, too much outpatient dropped them down here. Also, some driving to distant sites. Other than those issues, it would've been a top 5 contender due to proximity to home, good family town, great cost of living, proximity to Charlotte where I also have family.

    11. West Virginia: Loved the program, hated Morgantown. We could make it work because the program is so awesome, but the location wasn't our favorite. Still, the program was good enough and the city had SOME advantages for us (mostly the small size and relative safety of it) that it stayed on the list. Loved the off at 4pm every day when not on call, which was also very reasonable. Good schedule. Relaxed atmosphere. Had been higher on the list, but kept falling the more I thought about living in Morgantown.

    12. East Carolina: Had high hopes, but wound up being relatively unimpressed. Very nice people here though. Greenville could be a good town for our family too, but probably not a long term place, which dropped it down the list. High % of FMG's, all from Ross was also strange. Still, would be better than SOAP or not matching, and NC offers some good benefits for college education for The Kid (high rate of instate acceptance and cheap instate tuition at good schools like UNC). I do think ECU provides good training, but not as good as #1-11.

    13. Roanoke: I worked here for a month. Have family here. 2 hours from home. Great staff, great faculty. Saw a lot of pathology, actually. Work a bit harder than I'd like to put up with for being in Roanoke, which isn't my favorite city, and it's a newer program, so academic side isn't quite there. Was especially unimpressed with the quality of the didactics. PD is super nice though. Again, going here is better than SOAP, and it's really an ok place, but again, not quite as good as 1-12. Had a tough time with 12 vs 13.

    More in-depth reviews of the interviews and such coming, but hopefully this sheds some light on why WE chose these.

    For future readers, rankers, and researchers. Pick the program that's best for YOU (and your family, if you have one). Worry less about NIH rankings and crap (although that's worth looking at too).
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    1. michigan ann arbor
    2. harvard longwood
    3. yale-st raphaels
    4. yale-yale univ
    5. johns hopkins
    6. emory
    7. northwestern
    8. univ of illinois - chicago
    9. rush
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    fuuuuuuuuuuuudge, I forgot to switch between St Raphaels and New Haven...................
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    Digitl, not sure where you get lack of moonlighting for MUSC. Most everyone does moonlight in the program. Heck I am already in the process of getting my application in for my permanent licencse so that I can start early 2nd year. Just FYI as no changes gonna be made at this point :laugh:

    Good luck guys, hope everybody gets what they want.
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    Hmm. At my interview, residents told me that to moonlight they have to drive to Savannah, GA, Atlanta, or Greenville SC to moonlight. One of my interviewers told me about the saturation of the job market too...

    Well, if there's in-Charleston moonlighting I'll be a very happy camper if I wind up there. Still wouldn't have changed anything, since I don't plan to moonlight THAT much, and MUSC offers lower pay, less benefits, and a busier schedule than Palmetto.

    Still loved MUSC though. Could've just as easily been #1, and would be ecstatic to wind up there!
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    1) Penn
    2) Brown
    3) Duke
    4) Dartmouth
    5) U Michigan
    6) Pitt/WPIC
    7) U Maryland/SP
    8) Wash U

    Best of luck, everyone!
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    Congratulations to everyone…. Nothing to do now but wait. I hope it's a weight off for many of you. It will be fun seeing where you all interviewed and your impressions.

    These are very exciting days ahead…
  38. Leo Aquarius

    Leo Aquarius Anxiety.org Schizophrenia.com DepressionHealth.net

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    the crazy pirate's rank list mateees!

    1. UCLA-NPI
    2. UCSD
    3. Stanford
    4. Harvard Longwood
    5. Harbor-UCLA
    6. UC Davis
    7. Northwestern
    8. USC

    shiver me timbers!
  39. spinnerette

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    Savannah is a lovely lovely place though
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    Thank you so much for the great write up. I've been looking forward to it after you all locked in. Good luck in a few weeks.
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    1) UNC
    2) WPIC/UPMC
    3) MUSC
    4) UNM
    5) UC Denver
    6) Duke
    7) HSS
    8) LSU
    9) UVA
    10) USC Palmetto
    11) USF
    12) UCLA-Harbor

    DNR: Wake Forrest

    Have been set on the top 3 for weeks now. Really contemplated 4-7 for a long time, but in the end made just one minor change to that group. 8-11 has been the tier with the most changes, but I am happy with what I did with that group. Added on Harbor late in the game because even though I don't think it's necessarily the place for me I do think it is a strong program and to me certainly would be better than (god forbid) scrambling. Let's hope it doesn't come down to that.

    I gave consideration for all of my top 3 to garner the top spot, and would be thrilled matching at any. Certainly wouldn't be crushed if I feel lower, as I feel I would be happy at all of these places. Particularly UNM, a program that I absolutely loved and feel that if it were on either coast would probably be showing up on a lot more people's rank list.

    My gut feeling is I end up at MUSC or UNM.......time will tell.
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    Your right about lack of in city moonlighting. MUSC kind of dominates the city's inpt psych stuff. We moonlight in Savannah most frequently but also in various parts of the state, including Columbia. Either way good luck
  43. CTR

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    1. JPS
    2. Utah
    3. Palmetto
    4. UTMB
    5. Banner
    6. VCU
    7. UVA
    8. Wake
    9. Carilion
  44. splik

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    It is good to see this year's RoLs posted so far are much more diverse than previous years with more land-locked programs represented above, and other coastal programs than the usual suspects thus far.

    I won't be posting my rank list as I'm too superstitious. I have opted in the end to have a short rank list and know there is a strong possibility I won't match what with being an FMG and ranking so few programs but my advisers seem optimistic. Thankfully I am in the position of having a number of other exciting opportunities available to me other than residency which was always a means to an end anyway.
  45. Doctor Bagel

    Doctor Bagel so cheap and juicy Moderator Emeritus

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    I know -- this is really a different groups of programs, which is refreshing. You guys are reminding me of when I posted my list here at this time time 2 years ago. Such an exciting and yet nervewracking time. Good luck, everyone! And congrats on the hard work that it's taken to get here.
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    O no Dr. Bagel, that prolly means in 2 years we'll be followin your footsteps n hatin 24-36 hour call day/nights in residency and life in general much more than we are fourth year of med school, eh? :scared:
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    hopefully you will get miami and will be taking call from the beach. :)
  48. splik

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    :eyebrow: i will take it as a compliment.
  49. digitlnoize

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    Thanks Dr. B! It's been tough, but it's been almost 8 years since I left my old job to become a doctor, and with only 4-5 years ahead and a paycheck, it doesn't seem so bad!

    It's taken 8 years, but me residency salary will be double my old salary, so I count that as pretty good time spent. That's a 12.5% raise per year. Not too shabby. We can ignore the crippling med school debt for now, and presume that IBR and PSLF will remain in place for the next 10 years. :scared:

    I will say that although residency and medicine can suck, my old job running a music store sucked pretty hard too. Customers are usually more demanding when they're NOT sick, drum sets are freaking heavy, and impossible to fit into the back of Grandma's Ford Focus, and renting 75k band instruments in 2 months every year by driving to remote areas and setting up tables in a middle school in the middle of the evening and into the night is lamer than you can possibly imagine. Especially when little Betty wants to play the Saxophone and she can't because her Redneck Dad with his Large Knife doesn't pass the credit check and you have to tell them this with no security around to bail you out. Miraculously, we only got jumped a couple of times, and both times we were able to run very fast, lol, but it's not an easy life. Granted, it takes place at more reasonable hours, but retail sucks and I am SO glad to have left it behind.

    I do miss PLAYING music though, and if anyone at my future residency wants to start a band, I am soooo there.

    Does anyone know the guys in Pink Freud? Best psychiatrist band name ever.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITmHBEG95yw
  50. classof2011

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    Keeping it real (even if its only how you feel) is something I can appreciate. We aren't always right about everything but sharing your thoughts/opinions are important for the education of all of us. And if nothing else, funny as h3ll! lol

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