Your colleague’s kid is spoiled. That’s what is happening. He or she is used to mom and dad footing the bill and living in nice places so can’t fathom living in a cheaper environment. The reason for that? Daddy and Mommy. Enablers.
I am sorry but other than apartment number three what’s so “grim” about these places?This is what 2000 would get you in Boston. I don’t think I have particularly high taste/standards but it looks grim to say the least. Keep in mind these are likely cherry-picked photos to make the apartments look as nice as possible
122 Warren St APT 12A, Boston, MA 02135 | Zillow
122 Warren St Apt 12a, Boston MA, is a Apartment home that contains 700 sq ft.It contains 2 bedrooms and 1 bathroom. The Rent Zestimate for this Apartment is $2,400/mo, which has increased by $2,400/mo in the last 30 days.www.zillow.com
1179 Boylston St APT 5, Boston, MA 02215 | Zillow
1179 Boylston St Apt 5, Boston MA, is a Apartment home that contains 300 sq ft.It contains 1 bathroom. The Rent Zestimate for this Apartment is $2,281/mo, which has increased by $2,281/mo in the last 30 days.
97 Brainerd Rd #2, Allston, MA 02134 | Zillow
97 Brainerd Rd #2, Allston MA, is a Apartment home.It contains 1 bedroom and 1 bathroom. The Rent Zestimate for this Apartment is $2,325/mo, which has increased by $2,325/mo in the last 30 days.
385 Dorchester St #4B, Boston, MA 02127 | Zillow
385 Dorchester St #4b, Boston MA, is a Apartment home.It contains 1 bedroom and 1 bathroom. The Rent Zestimate for this Apartment is $2,250/mo, which has increased by $2,250/mo in the last 30 days.
A few of these are also in dangerous areas like dorchester/Roxbury.
*angry old man noises*
True. I made 34-36k and 2 bedroom apt rent was $1400 (with roommate was $700/momth)
I’m not that old. Lol. Residency is from age 26-30 for most of us. It’s still a fun time for most of us single people. Most of us get married ages 26-35 these days.*angry old man noises*
I’ll never understand the problem the older generation has with people seeking better quality of life and not wanting to live impoverished or like a college student in their 30s or not wanting their entire life to be work after years of hard work getting to and out of med school/residency. Imagine being in your 30s and needing a roommate to live decently. Some people are tired of living like a college student and some people have families to support. Resident salaries aren’t the greatest depending on COL in some areas. Be angry at that and not at people wanting a decent lifestyle after years of not having it due to school. If I was in a position to help my kid be comfortable in residency then I wouldn’t mind helping them with a stipend to do so until they’re finished with residency. As someone already pointed out, they’re not sitting in their parents basement eating snacks and playing video games all day. 🙄 if they’re in training and simply want the peace of their own place in a safe area without the bother of roommate then that’s not asking the world. If their parents are ok with helping with that then that’s their business. People don’t have to suffer through something just because you did or live the way you did just because you want them to. People are so dramatic.
300 is a studio? I might be underestimating the size but I thought studio was usually 700ish
That’s a tough proposition for people that will be in long residencies in their 30s, especially for women that want children.
Where? Yes studios are usually quite small. Like 3-400 Sq Feet. Large studios are for rich people.
700sqft is a decent size 1 bedroom apartment in HCOL cities. My studio is 520 sqft, and it is considered a very spacious one. I don't know if I can even fully furnish a 700 sqft studio
That is a lot more space than what I am used to You don't have to rank HCOL programs highly. There are plenty of good programs with much lower COL.
I think that advice about not having kids until everything is all settled works for people who only go for a bachelors for their career. Medicine just takes far too much of a persons lifetime to put having a family on hold unfortunately. It’s sad that people can’t feel comfortable having a family in residency after dedicating so many years to education. I feel like for that reason alone medical education needs to be revamped. People shouldn’t feel the need to put their entire life on hold outside of medicine just to be a doctor. At the end of the day it’s a job and there’s more to life than work.
How do you figure out the extent to which a residency is moonlight friendly? Never seems to be obvious from the website
THANK YOU. This is what my colleague's young adult is saying in that very high COL area. The plan is to maintain the stipend for PGY-2 then reduce it by half or eliminate it completely in PGY-3. The salary increase of PGY-3 is enough to cover the extra cost of the single bedroom, 900 Sq foot apartment in a safe part of the city.
I lived with my fiance in her mothers house. She had a beautiful 3500 sq foot log cabin on 6 acres in a national forest and she lived alone. So we lived with her and we lived very well on our combined salaries. Took at least one and sometimes 2 solid vacations per year. I could not complain. I also went to a program that worked the $zhit outta me. That was my major gripe during residency. Not my income.
Did you anesthetize bears? How long was your commute?
Isn’t this not really too much different than taking money from a parent though?
I’d say it’s the same. Either way it’s receiving parental help.
Its a good bit different in my opinion. I would never have asked a parent to give me money so I could live somewhere else. But if a single parent has a massive home thats essentially empty and they invite me to live there during a tight time, I see nothing wrong with that. I offered to pay bills while was there, she vehemently refused. I did finish her entire "room above garage" and remodeled the entire second floor from the bottom up (including 2 bathrooms), and put in a new floor downstairs etc. So no I would say its different from asking parents for rent money. I think theres hardly a legit reason to ask your parents for that these days unless you are a resident in NYC or San fran in unsubsidized living situations.
Well, I shot and killed an alligator that was going after my dog one time. Woke up to a bat flying around in the bedroom twice. Killed a copperhead once. Lots of Coyotes. The commute was like 30 mins going in 45 coming back.
Why do you feel it’s different? You essentially got to live somewhere rent free during residency which allowed you a more comfortable lifestyle than you other wise would have had compared to other residents who had to pay for their own place to live with multiple roommates without parental help. It’s still parental aid. Whether that parent is letting you live with them or helping you pay a bill to be more comfortable, it’s still not a lifestyle you would have had without their help. I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with that but it’s certainly the same to me because y’all could have gotten your own place but chose not to for more comfort.
Agreed. My parents currently help me out while in med school and I’d do the same for my kids.
I feel its different because I wasnt asking for monetary help. She had a home that wasnt being well utilized. She let us live there. I cleaned, and cooked, remodeled and maintained her home. I come from a contracting background. How is it that you dont see how thats different from asking your parents for rent money?
Because you relied on her home to support a more comfortable lifestyle. One could even argue you added to her bills in terms of electricity etc. Either way she gave something, i.e. her home, so that you could be more comfortable. I’m not seeing the distinction you’re trying to make in that it’s completely different just because she didn’t physically give you money. It’s still parental help for a more comfortable lifestyle. You could have gotten your own place but chose not to and got help in terms of living in someone else's home, so how is that different? It’s still getting help from a parent.I feel its different because I wasnt asking for monetary help. She had a home that wasnt being well utilized. She let us live there. I cleaned, and cooked, remodeled and maintained her home. I come from a contracting background. How is it that you dont see how thats different from asking your parents for rent money?
You're missing that I did things in return for said help. And using a room that would have otherwise been completely unutilized is far removed from asking for $1400 a month rent money. How that doesn't compute to you is slightly boggling to me, no offense. In fact she got the better end of the deal. She got her entire home remodeled while I was there. Are you really still confused?
We can agree to disagree then because I really don’t see how you think choosing to rely on a parent for more comfort is different just because you helped them out while living in their home to avoid the full brunt of bills vs asking for financial help outright with bills. It’s all the same to me. If it would have been financially better while full including independence to have your own place then that’s what y’all would have done but you chose to live with her because it netted you a benefit of not struggling financially. You wouldn’t have had that level of comfort without her help.
Any idea what a home remodel is worth buddy? Try like at least $100k. So yea its very different from just mooching. It was a lot of hard work. Actually while I was in residency my mother also had the misfortune of suffering a termite infestation. Instead of her paying contractors the quoted $115k+ to repair her home, I repaired it myself. I built temporary support walls and scaffolding in order to hold her home up while I knocked out 9 windows worth of walling, and reframed and rebuilt the whole thing. Took about 4 months with my cousins help. All she had to pay was the cost of materials and new windows (about $10k). Still wanna call me a mooch? Even despite the little help I had I still had a super ****ty time during residency my friend. VERY VERY ****TY. So please, spare me. I have no sympathy for the residents of today. They are more spoiled than ever before. Even the incoming interns had it better than I did by my senior year.
All that to say you stayed with a parent that helped you financially in that way just like any other person getting help from a parent with bills. I literally didn’t call you a mooch and said there’s nothing wrong with getting help. I intend on helping my kids if they need it and they go the medicine route or whatever. Also staying in someone’s home rent free is not a “little help” to me. That’s a lot of help and there’s nothing wrong with that. Your problem is you want to think the type of help you got from a parent is somehow different than another person just because you didn’t ask them to put money towards a bill and I disagree with that. YOU STILL GOT HELP SO YOU COULD LIVE IN A WAY YOU OTHERWISE WOULD NOT HAVE. Agree to disagree and move on 🙄
Imagine calling someone else spoiled while you lived rent free in another persons house during residency. Like that didn’t lift a heavy financial burden by itself. Lmbo what. Something about people in glass houses 😂🥴
You are completely clueless. But I digress. If you dont understand how its vastly different based on what Ive said by now, you're hopeless. I certainly could have very easily had a place of my own and not asked for a single dime in help. I optimized my situation and helped both my parents and her parents throughout residency. Anywho, the question was, "how did you survive residency given the financial constraints of recent years?" and I gave my answer. You, however, are just trolling at this point.
Thank you sir. It definitely paid for it and some. All I was suggesting was that some residents might consider a creative solution regarding a living situation like I did, in order to avoid flat out asking for money.
