Touro College of Dental Medicine - New York

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I have mine!
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paliman101 said:
Anybody know when there going send out the second round of acceptance?
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The deposit is due on next Monday so I guess you will probably hear back from next week.

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The coming Monday (May 2nd)will be their due date for deposit. So ima guessing the soonest wave will come after that.

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For those of you who got into Touro, are you guys planning on specializing? Being the first graduating class, do you think it will be difficult to match to a competitive program?
I by no means am not planning on specializing yet, but I hate to fall in love with something only to find out that I am disadavantaged because I am the first graduating class.

Does touro have specialty rotations? or is it going to focus on producing general dentists to serve the underserved areas in the vicinity?
 
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Dude I don't think anyone is specializing from there


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just curious. From their very short and to the point presentation, it was kind of hard to tell what kind of clinical rotation we will be exposed to, etc.
So yall think it's a long shot to try to match to a specialty?
 
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just curious. From their very short and to the point presentation, it was kind of hard to tell what kind of clinical rotation we will be exposed to, etc.
So yall think it's a long shot to try to match to a specialty?
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I asked a similar question to my interviewer and basically he said “no.” He said that specializing mostly depends on your own capabilities as a dentist, not the name of your school. I know that many of you would think that this is a biased answer, but this was basically what I’ve heard from any school. It didn’t matter whether it was at an established school with a high number of students matching to specialties (such as UW) or a newer school (such as Roseman). It was very interesting to hear from the faculty at UW admit that their program’s success is owed to the caliber of the students themselves and not the name of their school.

From what I’ve heard, specializing basically depends on your GPA, class rank, test scores, and letters of recommendation. I know that the tests are pass or fail right now, but I think I heard that there’s going to be a special standardized test (ADAT?) for students interested in specializing. This will even the playing field with a lot of schools that have moved to P/F systems. So your chances to specialize don’t really depend on what school you go to. It depends on you.

Also, letters of recommendation holds more weight when applying to specialties because they will be written by dentists who know what kind of qualities constitutes a good dentist/specialist. Specialty programs will take these letters a lot more seriously because they can trust their colleague’s judgement to vouch for a candidate. Right now our letters are being written by professors outside of the dental field (biology, chem, physics), so the dental AdComs may have taken them with a grain of salt.

One of the good things that Touro is able to offer as a new school is the opportunity for students to build really strong relationships with their professors. As the very first students in a brand new school, you will have more of the professor’s attention since you will always be the first at everything. When you’re in the first year learning your basic clinical sciences, you will have the professor’s undivided attention. When you’re in your third year starting out in the clinic, you will have the professor’s undivided attention. Not only is this beneficial for your own growth and education, but it will also help the professors to really get to know you and be able to write a really good LOR. I know that this helped students at Roseman who just graduated their inaugural class last year. Many of their students spoke of how well they got to know their professors. This showed in Roseman’s respectable success at matching their inaugural class to specialty programs.
 
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Programs want candidates that graduate from a solid, respectable program that produces great clinicians. That's not to say Touro won't do this, but it will take time.
 
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JLT223 said:
Programs want candidates that graduate from a solid, respectable program that produces great clinicians. That's not to say Touro won't do this, but it will take time.
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There may be some truth in schools preferring graduates from a program that has a history of producing great clinicians. I'm just trying to emphasize that going to Touro will probably not shoot down your chances at specializing. If you want to specialize, and you have the characteristics necessary to be a specialist, you should be fine. Really there are only a few programs (like Harvard or UCSF) that have reputations so great that their name may increase your chances at specializing. Everywhere else is more or less the same. It all comes down to your own capabilities and characteristics as a person and as a clinician.
 
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Fingers crossed there's another big batch of acceptance letters coming out this week
 
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nossdt said:
Really there are only a few programs (like Harvard or UCSF) that have reputations so great that their name may increase your chances at specializing. Everywhere else is more or less the same. It all comes down to your own capabilities and characteristics as a person and as a clinician.
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From my experience, there are many schools with great reputations (not just Harvard or UCSF) and "ALUMNI CONNECTIONS" that give the students advantages to match for specialties. It does sound harsh but this is fact. For instance, if you went to Penn and the postgrad director or the chairman of the program that you want to go to graduated from Penn, you will have a smooth conversation during interview finding things in common. This will increase your attractiveness to them as this is how it works in any kind of human relationship. Also if you interview at a program and one or more of the current residents there is a graduate of your school, the program director will ask the resident about you. If they hear nice things about you, this will increase your chance of acceptance.

Penn and Columbia every year send approximately 20 students to OS, 20 students to ortho, and 20 students Pedo, etc. That's more than half of a class. This is why the name and the reputation of the school is worth the high tuition. They produce so many specialists that leads to more number of specialty faculty at postgrad programs nationwide. This means more chance of postgrad director or chairman or even full time/part time faculty of the program being one of your alumni, and finally more chance of your acceptance to the program. just my two cents.
 
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From my experience, there are many schools with great reputations (not just Harvard or UCSF) and "ALUMNI CONNECTIONS" that give the students advantages to match for specialties. It does sound harsh but this is fact. For instance, if you went to Penn and the postgrad director or the chairman of the program that you want to go to graduated from Penn, you will have a smooth conversation during interview finding things in common. This will increase your attractiveness to them as this is how it works in any kind of human relationship. Also if you interview at a program and one or more of the current residents there is a graduate of your school, the program director will ask the resident about you. If they hear nice things about you, this will increase your chance of acceptance.

Penn and Columbia every year send approximately 20 students to OS, 20 students to ortho, and 20 students Pedo, etc. That's more than half of a class. This is why the name and the reputation of the school is worth the high tuition. They produce so many specialists that leads to more number of specialty faculty at postgrad programs nationwide. This means more chance of postgrad director or chairman or even full time/part time faculty of the program being one of your alumni, and finally more chance of your acceptance to the program. just my two cents.
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My intentionally short list was never meant to be exhaustive. I just chose these schools as an example to show how great that name has to be to possibly help you specialize. There may even be a a couple more schools to add on to our collective list of Harvard, UCSF, Penn, and Columbia.

However, I think the main reason that these schools have such a high number of kids specializing has less to do with alumni connections and more to do with their own individual qualities as people and as clinicians. I think the kind of person that attends these schools probably has some outstanding qualities that got them them there in the first place. If they had chose a lesser known school (such as their state school), I believe that their innate qualities that qualified them for acceptance into an "ivy league" dental school will help them get into a specialty school.
 
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You guys are all arguing about specialties but the truth you all are going to be general dentists so calm down
 
freddent said:
You guys are all arguing about specialties but the truth you all are going to be general dentists so calm down
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Speak for yourself. People aren't allowed to look at the possibilities within their profession?
 
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nossdt said:
My intentionally short list was never meant to be exhaustive. I just chose these schools as an example to show how great that name has to be to possibly help you specialize. There may even be a a couple more schools to add on to our collective list of Harvard, UCSF, Penn, and Columbia.

However, I think the main reason that these schools have such a high number of kids specializing has less to do with alumni connections and more to do with their own individual qualities as people and as clinicians. I think the kind of person that attends these schools probably has some outstanding qualities that got them them there in the first place. If they had chose a lesser known school (such as their state school), I believe that their innate qualities that qualified them for acceptance into an "ivy league" dental school will help them get into a specialty school.
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Of course the individual quality of the applicant is #1 utmost importance and that is given in the equation so I kept that out of the discussion. I was only discussing about the situation in which two applicants have similar stats. You brought up a good point --> "some outstanding qualities that got them there in the first place". Yes, proportionally the students' stats at those reputable schools are better. So what does that mean? when your class rank is 7/110 at "Ivy League" dental school may not be equal to 7/110 at another dental school because the competing pool is different. The post grad directors are well aware of it. I was trying to point out that the chance of getting admitted to specialty is not the same when the stats of two applicants from two different dental schools are similar.
 
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jpark9 said:
Of course the individual quality of the applicant is #1 utmost importance and that is given in the equation so I kept that out of the discussion. I was only discussing about the situation in which two applicants have similar stats. You brought up a good point --> "some outstanding qualities that got them there in the first place". Yes, proportionally the students' stats at those reputable schools are better. So what does that mean? when your class rank is 7/110 at "Ivy League" dental school may not be equal to 7/110 at another dental school because the competing pool is different. The post grad directors are well aware of it. I was trying to point out that the chance of getting admitted to specialty is not the same when the stats of two applicants from two different dental schools are similar.
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guess this will the time for standardized test to kick in(maybe board?)


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Just spoke to Sam--they anticipate sending out more acceptances within the next few days, but definitely within the week. Thank God, this waiting game is so disrespectful lol
 
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xhmi3 said:
Just spoke to Sam--they anticipate sending out more acceptances within the next few days, but definitely within the week. Thank God, this waiting game is so disrespectful lol
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Do u know how many acceptances will they send out?
 
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Just spoke to Sam--they anticipate sending out more acceptances within the next few days, but definitely within the week. Thank God, this waiting game is so disrespectful lol
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who is Sam anyways ??????
 
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Just spoke to Sam--they anticipate sending out more acceptances within the next few days, but definitely within the week. Thank God, this waiting game is so disrespectful lol
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Would it be safe to assume that whoever hasn't heard from them yet is more than likely on the wait list?? Im wondering if they sent out all the rejections already and only have people on the wait list left.
 
everyone who's gotten in paid the deposit? Or waiting for a miracle to happen this evening?
 
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moa92 said:
Would it be safe to assume that whoever hasn't heard from them yet is more than likely on the wait list?? Im wondering if they sent out all the rejections already and only have people on the wait list left.
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Think of it as a list that changes every so often, in our case every week or so, till you are accepted, rejected, or formally put on the wait list you are still in the pool of applicants. You must feel anxious but just be glad that you still have a chance.

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Would it be safe to assume that whoever hasn't heard from them yet is more than likely on the wait list?? Im wondering if they sent out all the rejections already and only have people on the wait list left.
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She said they're sending out acceptances followed by waitlists and probably more rejections. So no, don't assume everyone left is waitlisted:)
 
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decided to attend lecom, so 1 more seat will become available.
Good luck guys.
 
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Ureejojo said:
It doesn't matter where you go in order to be a great dentist. I am sure you will be one of the greatest :)
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I used to think this too.
Then I heard about LECOM's board pass rate :laugh:
 
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Ah haven't heard anything
 
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me too.... nothing yet :(
 
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Curious as to why they would send that extra letter regarding to a strong candidate and yet, I have not received a response.
 
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Curious as to why they would send that extra letter regarding to a strong candidate and yet, I have not received a response.
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I totally understand you! You're not alone... That extra paragraph gave me a lot of hope and I haven't heard anything yet ...:(
 
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