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I couldn't find a thread on this...

I am trying to narrow a list, and determine with DO schools give preference to In state residents, and by how much?

So far I know that
Ohio, Oklahoma, and Texas, and Michigan all pull the majority of their applicants in state. Their sites claim 85-90%

Virginia like to pull a fair share of applicants from Virginia, and they like to pull more of their applicants from surrounding states. About 30-40 from Virginia according to an admissions officer.

The jury is still out on Nevada... on their site they said their "funnel"
schools are the UC schools, but I am not sure if they mean this is one of their preferences. 40% from UC schools, and 20% from Nevada I believe, when I read their site.

Georgia Campus PCOM. I talked to one of the medical students on their site, and said out of their 80 seats, they generally accept 40 in state, does anyone have statistics for this?
 
millepora said:
I couldn't find a thread on this...

I am trying to narrow a list, and determine with DO schools give preference to In state residents, and by how much?

So far I know that
Ohio, Oklahoma, and Texas, and Michigan all pull the majority of their applicants in state. Their sites claim 85-90%

Virginia like to pull a fair share of applicants from Virginia, and they like to pull more of their applicants from surrounding states. About 30-40 from Virginia according to an admissions officer.

The jury is still out on Nevada... on their site they said their "funnel"
schools are the UC schools, but I am not sure if they mean this is one of their preferences. 40% from UC schools, and 20% from Nevada I believe, when I read their site.

Georgia Campus PCOM. I talked to one of the medical students on their site, and said out of their 80 seats, they generally accept 40 in state, does anyone have statistics for this?
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UMDNJ also has a preference for instate students. Last year their ratio of IS:OOS was 4:1 for the first year class.
 
Isn't this why people opt for osteopathic schools, because most are private and most do not favor in state vs out of state/

It isn't my fault if my state has a ridiculously competitive medical school or no medical school. I feel that osteopathic schools are filling a necessary niche in this regard.
 
~35% of NYCOM's last year class was from out of state.
 
Darklord said:
Isn't this why people opt for osteopathic schools, because most are private and most do not favor in state vs out of state/

It isn't my fault if my state has a ridiculously competitive medical school or no medical school. I feel that osteopathic schools are filling a necessary niche in this regard.
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There are also plenty of private MD schools out there that have admissions standards approximating those of state schools.
 
AdemTD said:
UMDNJ also has a preference for instate students. Last year their ratio of IS:OOS was 4:1 for the first year class.
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UMDNJ doesn't have a preference for instate students, this ration is probably based on the students who opted to go the school versus preference of the Adcoms.
 
PunkmedGirl said:
UMDNJ doesn't have a preference for instate students, this ration is probably based on the students who opted to go the school versus preference of the Adcoms.
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Well based on the raw percentages of those who applied for the first year class, NJ residents had a 47% chance of being interviewed (221/470) and OOS students had a 2.76% chance (78/2,826).
 
AdemTD said:
Well based on the raw percentages of those who applied for the first year class, NJ residents had a 47% chance of being interviewed (221/470) and OOS students had a 2.76% chance (78/2,826).
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Understandable. But based on the admissions department, they don't show preference to IN vs OOS students. As a matter of fact, I'll send a email to double check that information.
 
PunkmedGirl said:
Understandable. But based on the admissions department, they don't show preference to IN vs OOS students. As a matter of fact, I'll send a email to double check that information.
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Yeah, I'm just suggesting that it definitely appears that way 😉
 
PunkmedGirl said:
Understandable. But based on the admissions department, they don't show preference to IN vs OOS students. As a matter of fact, I'll send a email to double check that information.
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Well just because they say they don't have a preference, doesn't mean it's true. I mean just look at the numbers and decide for yourself. lol It's not like NJ is a huge state or something, which would help account for why the numbers for ISS is so high.
 
CardioPlus said:
Well just because they say they don't have a preference, doesn't mean it's true. I mean just look at the numbers and decide for yourself. lol It's not like NJ is a huge state or something, which would help account for why the numbers for ISS is so high.
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Well, I would think they would have the professionism not to lie to propective students. This school has been debated many times about whether or not they show preference to instate versus out of state. But according to one page on their website, it doesn't even allude to any preference other than being a US citizen. I assume that if everyone is under the impression that they show preference to IN vs OUT, then that can also be the reason why INstate students numbers are so high. I'm just hypothesizing here or as you say they could very well be lying to us about their preference.
 
CardioPlus said:
Well just because they say they don't have a preference, doesn't mean it's true. I mean just look at the numbers and decide for yourself. lol It's not like NJ is a huge state or something, which would help account for why the numbers for ISS is so high.
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Well if UMDNJ does like to take a high number of instate students I must have a high chance. I guess fellow NJ residents are looking out for each other 😀
 
This has been talked about in a few different threads, but I believe that I read on here that UMDNJ allows a lot of OOS applicants to change their residency to NJ (if you get license, car insurance, registration, voter id, lease, ect.) and they may be publishing those numbers after people have changed their residency to matriculate as IS.

I'm sure some will then questions why everyone doesn't change their residency and my only thought for that is that some may own property that they don't plan to sell and that disqualifies them for the residency change.
 
TOURO-CA has preference for CA applicants.
 
PunkmedGirl said:
Well, I would think they would have the professionism not to lie to propective students. This school has been debated many times about whether or not they show preference to instate versus out of state. But according to one page on their website, it doesn't even allude to any preference other than being a US citizen. I assume that if everyone is under the impression that they show preference to IN vs OUT, then that can also be the reason why INstate students numbers are so high. I'm just hypothesizing here or as you say they could very well be lying to us about their preference.
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In all honesty, I don't think UMDNJ-SOM has a strong in-state vs. out-of-state preference. I was accepted OOS from Ohio while OUCOM waitlisted me...go figure.) What is true, however, is that the admissions process at SOM is very numbers-driven. They have a grid by which they rank everyone in terms of stats, ECs, etc and if you're above a certain "cutoff" number you're essentially accepted regardless of how your interview goes. As far as I'm aware, your state of residence is not figured into the score you get from that grid.
 
beckhunter116 said:
This has been talked about in a few different threads, but I believe that I read on here that UMDNJ allows a lot of OOS applicants to change their residency to NJ (if you get license, car insurance, registration, voter id, lease, ect.) and they may be publishing those numbers after people have changed their residency to matriculate as IS.

I'm sure some will then questions why everyone doesn't change their residency and my only thought for that is that some may own property that they don't plan to sell and that disqualifies them for the residency change.
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Something like 99% of OOS people at UMDNJ change their state of residence. Car registrations can easily be changed between states, so I don't think that would be much of a problem.
 
UNECOM has a preference for applicants from the New England states. Last year around 60% of the incoming class came from one of those 6 states.
 
dozitgetchahi said:
the admissions process at [UMDNJ-]SOM is very numbers-driven. They have a grid by which they rank everyone in terms of stats, ECs, etc and if you're above a certain "cutoff" number you're essentially accepted regardless of how your interview goes. As far as I'm aware, your state of residence is not figured into the score you get from that grid.
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I'm only N=1, but I can personally say that this is one of like 2 schools I heard absolutely zero from. My numbers are great, and so was the rest of my app. Maybe they lost materials or didn't like my essay, but my numbers certainly would have made any cutoff they had.

I'm just putting this out there, not arguing that you're wrong. I really don't have the data to argue either way. Counterexamples are just good to be aware of. 🙂 Perhaps, however, I'm not a counterexample per se if I didn't make it to the interview. Maybe your explanation only applies *after* you interview, in which case my example is moot.
 
Chocolate Bear said:
I'm only N=1, but I can personally say that this is one of like 2 schools I heard absolutely zero from. My numbers are great, and so was the rest of my app. Maybe they lost materials or didn't like my essay, but my numbers certainly would have made any cutoff they had.

I'm just putting this out there, not arguing that you're wrong. I really don't have the data to argue either way. Counterexamples are just good to be aware of. 🙂 Perhaps, however, I'm not a counterexample per se if I didn't make it to the interview. Maybe your explanation only applies *after* you interview, in which case my example is moot.
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Do you mean you did not get a secondary or not an interview. If its the secondary, UMDNJ does not filter out people. They encourage all applicants to fill out the secondary (found online at their website) and fill it out and send it in once they have received the primary application.
 
roropen said:
Do you mean you did not get a secondary or not an interview. If its the secondary, UMDNJ does not filter out people. They encourage all applicants to fill out the secondary (found online at their website) and fill it out and send it in once they have received the primary application.
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I believe he's referring to being granted an interview.
 
FutureCTDoc said:
Nova has an instate preference.
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I've never heard this. They get a small amount of government funds, simply because they are such a big university, but I've never heard of this leading to any instate bias.
 
Being here, NSU prefers FL residents for two reasons A) They are committed to providing physicians to South Florida B) It's partially state supported, compare IS vs OOS tuition at the COM. I'm OOS btw.
 
FutureCTDoc said:
Being here, NSU prefers FL residents for two reasons A) They are committed to providing physicians to South Florida B) It's partially state supported, compare IS vs OOS tuition at the COM. I'm OOS btw.
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I know the IS and OOS tuition is like 5k different, but again, I thought this was just because of the small government cash they receive, but didn't think it was enough to declare instate bias. Oh well, it doesn't matter. Fantastic school either way.
 
No lie, NSU is amazing. I'm in the BS/DO, the HPD (Health Professions Division) is in a nice new building. The profs are nice, the academics strong and we're in SoFl. I should clarify the IS preference isn't ridiculous, but its definitely there.
 
As has been said, UMDNJ-SOM's number are skewed. They take many out of state students into their program. My car is even still registered and insured in Pennsylvania. All i needed to have was a NJ appartment, NJ driver's license, and register to vote in NJ to be considered instate and get the cheaper tution. As a fourth year I can honestly say I couldn't be happier. Althought I'm not sure, I would assume this happens with other programs as well. Apply broad you can always turn down interviews.
 
Scorcher31 said:
As has been said, UMDNJ-SOM's number are skewed. They take many out of state students into their program. My car is even still registered and insured in Pennsylvania. All i needed to have was a NJ appartment, NJ driver's license, and register to vote in NJ to be considered instate and get the cheaper tution. As a fourth year I can honestly say I couldn't be happier. Althought I'm not sure, I would assume this happens with other programs as well. Apply broad you can always turn down interviews.
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Yea, I wish the same rules apply to incoming students. Well, you still can get instate tuition after your first year I think.
 
FutureCTDoc said:
No lie, NSU is amazing. I'm in the BS/DO, the HPD (Health Professions Division) is in a nice new building. The profs are nice, the academics strong and we're in SoFl. I should clarify the IS preference isn't ridiculous, but its definitely there.
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HPD is beautiful. When you get the front view with the huge fountain and all the stone on the front ... unreal. I was blown away by NSU. Being an undergrad there must be so fun - I checked out a good portion of the undergrad campus and student union (that's probably not what it's called but the big building with the gym and food places) and it looked awesome. Congrats on getting into the BS/DO program ... those combined ones are not an easy task. Are you 7 or 8 year??
 
JaggerPlate said:
HPD is beautiful. When you get the front view with the huge fountain and all the stone on the front ... unreal. I was blown away by NSU. Being an undergrad there must be so fun - I checked out a good portion of the undergrad campus and student union (that's probably not what it's called but the big building with the gym and food places) and it looked awesome. Congrats on getting into the BS/DO program ... those combined ones are not an easy task. Are you 7 or 8 year??
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I'm an 8 year, it's much nicer than the traditional premed route. Maintain a 3.1, 24 MCAT, no lower than 7 on any section. Living near Miami is great, especially for a UG, no chance I ever will get down there as a med student. If you have any questions about the COM or interviews PM me.
 
FutureCTDoc said:
Being here, NSU prefers FL residents for two reasons A) They are committed to providing physicians to South Florida B) It's partially state supported, compare IS vs OOS tuition at the COM. I'm OOS btw.
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hey futuredoc, what is roughly the acceptance rate for OOS applicants to NSU? im a freshman undergrad in california.
 
Honestly, it's not a huge preference maybe a few point IS edge. OOS is probably 17%, IS 23%. What matters is GPA, MCAT, LORs, EC more than residency.
 
Mtnbiker said:
Where do the other 60% come from?
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That's percent of applicants accepted, the data is a little bit old though. I heard it from someone in admissions. I.e If a 100 Floridians applied, 23 would be accepted and if a 100 oos applied 17 would be accepted. This info is a few cycles old.
 
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