Awesome, thanks for the follow-up! Guess my recruiter was telling half-truths again...shocker.
Based on your information and having not heard any news from my recruiter as of late, I would assume that I was not awarded a HPSP scholarship.All of the 4 year HPSP scholarships have been given out for next year. The Navy is currently offering $75k signing bonus for DA (direct accession). As per BUMED that amount is suppose to be going up to $150k in the very near future.
Based on your information and having not heard any news from my recruiter as of late, I would assume that I was not awarded a HPSP scholarship.
If you have the time, do you mind explaining what other programs the Navy has to offer (for example the HSCP)? I only investigated the HPSP program so I'm not familiar with anything else.
Thanks in advance!
Based on your information and having not heard any news from my recruiter as of late, I would assume that I was not awarded a HPSP scholarship.
If you have the time, do you mind explaining what other programs the Navy has to offer (for example the HSCP)? I only investigated the HPSP program so I'm not familiar with anything else.
Thanks in advance!
Thank you for the informative post. I was up a good part of the night researching the HSCP, but the problem is not all of the information is always current. Thanks again!Under HSCP, you're paid at an E-6 rate, including BAH, BAS. You are considered active duty, and have all the benefits of being active duty (health insurance, NEX access, military discounts, etc).
Benefits- you're active duty, so you're accumulating time in service, so if doing the 20 years is of interest to you, your time in school counts toward your 20 year retirement. Also, when you graduate you commission as an O3E 4 years, which will pay you ~$1200/month more than O3 0 years. This equates to higher annual salary coming out of school. If you are going to an instate school, this program is great because you can live cheap and use the salary to pay your tuition, have free health insurance (including for your family if you're married), and will make more upon commission than your HPSP counterparts.
Disadvantages- Your tuition is not paid for. This is not a disadvantage if you are able to pay your tuition with your salary. Another disadvantage is you have to do the PRT every 6 months. Not really a big deal, but it's a pain in the butt when you have so much studying to do.
If I had to do it all over again, I would do it in a heartbeat. I would not hesitate to do HSCP if you're given the opportunity.
No problem. You have been a great help already. Do you know what one's ranking is if signed on as a direct accession?Sorry for the late reply, I haven't been on in awhile. The best person to talk to is CAPT Hartzel. He is currently the main resource for recruiting and news on recruiting budgets. The other options as of now would be to pay for d-school on your own and then sign on for the $150k bonus upon graduation, not sure about the HSCP so I won't give any mis-information. Sorry I can't be of more help.
No problem. You have been a great help already. Do you know what one's ranking is if signed on as a direct accession?
Under HSCP, you're paid at an E-6 rate, including BAH, BAS. You are considered active duty, and have all the benefits of being active duty (health insurance, NEX access, military discounts, etc).
Benefits- you're active duty, so you're accumulating time in service, so if doing the 20 years is of interest to you, your time in school counts toward your 20 year retirement. Also, when you graduate you commission as an O3E 4 years, which will pay you ~$1200/month more than O3 0 years. This equates to higher annual salary coming out of school. If you are going to an instate school, this program is great because you can live cheap and use the salary to pay your tuition, have free health insurance (including for your family if you're married), and will make more upon commission than your HPSP counterparts.
Disadvantages- Your tuition is not paid for. This is not a disadvantage if you are able to pay your tuition with your salary. Another disadvantage is you have to do the PRT every 6 months. Not really a big deal, but it's a pain in the butt when you have so much studying to do.
If I had to do it all over again, I would do it in a heartbeat. I would not hesitate to do HSCP if you're given the opportunity.
I know that green = marines and blue = navy, but can anyone give us a little more information about this?
I don't know much about the military, but I would like to be assigned to a "brigade" such as those offered in the Army, so would this be the "green" side? Or I'd like an assignment on a small ship or base; if that's the case then does blue or green matter? How difficult is it to be assigned to one vs the other?
And finally, I'll be graduating in 2015. So if I do a 1 year AEGD, then I'll be done in 2016. Will this be a green or blue year? Sorry if I sound ignorant... I'm totally new to this.
Are you able to pursue different metals and pins if you want to, such as the Marksmanship metals or other areas you may have a personal interest in? How much freedom is there is doing things like this?
There really isn't much else that I can think of. If you are wanting to be a badge collector and display a bunch of bling on your uniform, you should look into the Army.
So the Army are bling collectors? Explain that a little further and how the different branches differ in this regard.
I'm not saying that everyone in the Army is a bling collector, but the ability to do so is there. They have more badges and patches that they are allowed to earn, and they are authorized to display more trinkets on their uniforms than any of the other services. To illustrate this, here are pictures of three dentists from the different services:
Air Force Maj
Navy CAPT
Army LTC
If you really want a chuckle, check out General Petraeus. He ran out of room to pin stuff on his uniform, so now his aide probably wears some of his extra ribbons and badges.
Has anyone been or is currently operational with the Seabees? Wondering what it's like.
Let's say you are on HPSP...does anyone know if having a master's degree would count towards years of service?
Also, do you get a military ID once you are commissioned even before going to training?
Let's say you are on HPSP...does anyone know if having a master's degree would count towards years of service?
Also, do you get a military ID once you are commissioned even before going to training?
I am looking into the HPSP through both the navy and the air force. I was just wondering what the average amount of time one can expect to spend on a ship per year or per 4 years. I think it would be very fun to be out to sea, but at the same time, I would miss my family. I know that the amount of time can't be predicted exactly, but I was just looking for an average. Thanks.
How long are the deployments on average? When are you out to see for 24-27 months, how is that time broken up? Is like 6 months in the ocean, 1 month back at an American base?
Deployments on an aircraft carrier - 6 to 7 months
A typical deployment cycle includes:
The picture above is the typical schedule that is followed. I know the acronyms mean nothing to you, but each is a type of certification and training that is needed before a ship can go to the next step and eventually deploy.
1. yard period - (4 1/2 to 11 months) - fixing the ship up getting it updated and ready for the next deployment
2. fast cruise and sea trials - 5 days to a week - take the ship out to sea to test all systems to make sure things are working properly and to begin basic training for individuals that transferred to the ship during the yard period and refresher for those who were deployed before.
After this the training schedule can really vary and times can vary. There are 3 phases of training:
1. Basic training
2. Intermediate training
3. Advanced training
Within each phase of training are specific levels of training that are necessary to be completed before the ship can continue on with further training. Not all of the levels of training within a phase may be completed in one given u nderway period. Or if a carrier is placed on a "rush" cycle, parts of two phases may be completed in one underway period. Basically, the underway periods consist of a lot of training and drills. The underway periods last from a couple weeks to as many as two months I cannot tell you a typical time in, time out to sea breakdown because it really can vary. But, refer back to a previous post where I said expect to be out to sea anywhere from 50 to 70 percent of the time during a 2 year tour on the ship depending on when you transfer to the ship. But, I will say even though it may vary you may be out to sea for 2 weeks, back for 2 to 4 weeks, out for a month, back for a couple weeks, out for 4 to 6 weeks back for a month and maybe one more cycle before the deployment. I know this may have been a little rambled, but I hope you can get a little bit of an idea of a ship deployment cycle out of this. If not, you can go to the following link where it discusses the various components of a deployment cycle. There are links in the right column where you can see specifics for each level of training if you desire this.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/idtc.htm
Then, once all the training is complete, the ship goes into a scheduled pre-deployment down period for a month so people can take vacation and spend time with the family (usually broken down into (2) two week periods). Then the 6 to 7 month deployment comes. After the deployment, the ship goes into another month down period. Afterward, the ship gets ready for the yard period again.
Navy DDS 2010,
So just to get this straight, during these training intervals a dental officer would continue work as usual more or less treating sailors on the carrier during the yard period, sea trials, deployment workups, 6 month deployment ect.?
Would you happen to have similar information on deployment schedules for a green billet attachment? Thanks.
The duties of a dental officer is the same in port or underway. The only thing that changes really is that when the ship is underway, the dental officers obviously sleep on the ship and there is usually an ~ 2 hour long evening clinic session Monday through Saturday. Other than that, the jobs are the same.
I'm actually kinda impressed that there are enough patients to keep the dentist so busy on a deployed carrier. I guess if there are hundreds of sailors and only a few dentists it makes sense that they can fill long workdays. That seems pretty cool because you'd get a ton of experience while at sea.
Thanks, That would be greatly appreciated.Smills, I don't have have one, but I can ask a friend who has spent a lot of his time as a green side dentist. I'll see if there is a generic deployment schedule that he can give me or a site he can direct me to. I guess I should know this since I want to go green side as well.
Smills, I don't have have one, but I can ask a friend who has spent a lot of his time as a green side dentist. I'll see if there is a generic deployment schedule that he can give me or a site he can direct me to. I guess I should know this since I want to go green side as well.
What is a green side dentist?
What is a green side dentist? (And also, why do you want to go to it?)
Marines
Navy healthcare teams take care of Navy and Marine personnel. So, when you are attached to Navy units, it is referred to as the blue side. When stationed with Marine units, it is referred to as the green side.
As far as why I want to go green, most of the people I know who have spent time with the Marines have loved it. So, I want to experience why they enjoy it.
Ahah, thank you. I think I'd definitely want to hear more from people who experienced it to even consider that. From the way you guys talk about it, I'm guessing being attached to Marines is usually a voluntary assignment?
Thanks for the good info! So, let me see if I understand. In my 4 years of active duty for the repayment of HPSP, I could expect being assigned for 2 years to a carrier and 2 years to some naval base?