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Awesome, thanks for the follow-up! Guess my recruiter was telling half-truths again...shocker.

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All of the 4 year HPSP scholarships have been given out for next year. The Navy is currently offering $75k signing bonus for DA (direct accession). As per BUMED that amount is suppose to be going up to $150k in the very near future.
 
I'm an HPSP student graduating in June. I signed up for the WREBs and have a few questions. Also, I've been commissioned in Okinawa for the end of the summer after ODS (not doing a residency):

1. Should I definitely take boards (I do plan on practicing in CA at some point).
2. Is the 2200$ WREB fee reimbursable?
3. Will I be eligible for the special pay during the 3 years payback I owe?

Thanks!
 
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All of the 4 year HPSP scholarships have been given out for next year. The Navy is currently offering $75k signing bonus for DA (direct accession). As per BUMED that amount is suppose to be going up to $150k in the very near future.
Based on your information and having not heard any news from my recruiter as of late, I would assume that I was not awarded a HPSP scholarship.

If you have the time, do you mind explaining what other programs the Navy has to offer (for example the HSCP)? I only investigated the HPSP program so I'm not familiar with anything else.

Thanks in advance!
 
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Based on your information and having not heard any news from my recruiter as of late, I would assume that I was not awarded a HPSP scholarship.

If you have the time, do you mind explaining what other programs the Navy has to offer (for example the HSCP)? I only investigated the HPSP program so I'm not familiar with anything else.

Thanks in advance!

Sorry for the late reply, I haven't been on in awhile. The best person to talk to is CAPT Hartzel. He is currently the main resource for recruiting and news on recruiting budgets. The other options as of now would be to pay for d-school on your own and then sign on for the $150k bonus upon graduation, not sure about the HSCP so I won't give any mis-information. Sorry I can't be of more help.
 
Based on your information and having not heard any news from my recruiter as of late, I would assume that I was not awarded a HPSP scholarship.

If you have the time, do you mind explaining what other programs the Navy has to offer (for example the HSCP)? I only investigated the HPSP program so I'm not familiar with anything else.

Thanks in advance!

Under HSCP, you're paid at an E-6 rate, including BAH, BAS. You are considered active duty, and have all the benefits of being active duty (health insurance, NEX access, military discounts, etc).

Benefits- you're active duty, so you're accumulating time in service, so if doing the 20 years is of interest to you, your time in school counts toward your 20 year retirement. Also, when you graduate you commission as an O3E 4 years, which will pay you ~$1200/month more than O3 0 years. This equates to higher annual salary coming out of school. If you are going to an instate school, this program is great because you can live cheap and use the salary to pay your tuition, have free health insurance (including for your family if you're married), and will make more upon commission than your HPSP counterparts.

Disadvantages- Your tuition is not paid for. This is not a disadvantage if you are able to pay your tuition with your salary. Another disadvantage is you have to do the PRT every 6 months. Not really a big deal, but it's a pain in the butt when you have so much studying to do.

If I had to do it all over again, I would do it in a heartbeat. I would not hesitate to do HSCP if you're given the opportunity.
 
Under HSCP, you're paid at an E-6 rate, including BAH, BAS. You are considered active duty, and have all the benefits of being active duty (health insurance, NEX access, military discounts, etc).

Benefits- you're active duty, so you're accumulating time in service, so if doing the 20 years is of interest to you, your time in school counts toward your 20 year retirement. Also, when you graduate you commission as an O3E 4 years, which will pay you ~$1200/month more than O3 0 years. This equates to higher annual salary coming out of school. If you are going to an instate school, this program is great because you can live cheap and use the salary to pay your tuition, have free health insurance (including for your family if you're married), and will make more upon commission than your HPSP counterparts.

Disadvantages- Your tuition is not paid for. This is not a disadvantage if you are able to pay your tuition with your salary. Another disadvantage is you have to do the PRT every 6 months. Not really a big deal, but it's a pain in the butt when you have so much studying to do.

If I had to do it all over again, I would do it in a heartbeat. I would not hesitate to do HSCP if you're given the opportunity.
Thank you for the informative post. I was up a good part of the night researching the HSCP, but the problem is not all of the information is always current. Thanks again!
 
Sorry for the late reply, I haven't been on in awhile. The best person to talk to is CAPT Hartzel. He is currently the main resource for recruiting and news on recruiting budgets. The other options as of now would be to pay for d-school on your own and then sign on for the $150k bonus upon graduation, not sure about the HSCP so I won't give any mis-information. Sorry I can't be of more help.
No problem. You have been a great help already. Do you know what one's ranking is if signed on as a direct accession?
 
No problem. You have been a great help already. Do you know what one's ranking is if signed on as a direct accession?

I assume you are asking what your rank would be if you joined as a direct accession right after you graduate from dental school. You would enter as a Lieutenant (O-3) with <2 years of service.
 
Under HSCP, you're paid at an E-6 rate, including BAH, BAS. You are considered active duty, and have all the benefits of being active duty (health insurance, NEX access, military discounts, etc).

Benefits- you're active duty, so you're accumulating time in service, so if doing the 20 years is of interest to you, your time in school counts toward your 20 year retirement. Also, when you graduate you commission as an O3E 4 years, which will pay you ~$1200/month more than O3 0 years. This equates to higher annual salary coming out of school. If you are going to an instate school, this program is great because you can live cheap and use the salary to pay your tuition, have free health insurance (including for your family if you're married), and will make more upon commission than your HPSP counterparts.

Disadvantages- Your tuition is not paid for. This is not a disadvantage if you are able to pay your tuition with your salary. Another disadvantage is you have to do the PRT every 6 months. Not really a big deal, but it's a pain in the butt when you have so much studying to do.

If I had to do it all over again, I would do it in a heartbeat. I would not hesitate to do HSCP if you're given the opportunity.

Also with the HSCP you are eligible for the GI Bill which will pay for 3 years at whatever your state rate for the GI Bill is. I'm in Kentucky and it pays for about 22-23,000 of my 28,000 dollar tuition and fees bill. It varies by state though so you'll need to look into it. So it's conceivable to come out ahead on tutition afterwards with the GI Bill program. It's most beneficial to pay for 1st year and take the GI Bill the last 3 years.
 
Hello guys am new to this process and I always wanted to be an Doctor in the military. I just wanted to know what DAT score will make me in the running for the HPSP. plus if I applied in June or July and if their were no more scholarships left could I get picked up in October in the new phyiscal year. But will they let me know at least in July rather or not I will recieve the scholarship. PLEASE SOMEBODY LET ME KNOW
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what's the minimum gpa for direct assession, anyone? is it 3.0?
 
I know that green = marines and blue = navy, but can anyone give us a little more information about this?

I don't know much about the military, but I would like to be assigned to a "brigade" such as those offered in the Army, so would this be the "green" side? Or I'd like an assignment on a small ship or base; if that's the case then does blue or green matter? How difficult is it to be assigned to one vs the other?

And finally, I'll be graduating in 2015. So if I do a 1 year AEGD, then I'll be done in 2016. Will this be a green or blue year? Sorry if I sound ignorant... I'm totally new to this.
 
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I know that green = marines and blue = navy, but can anyone give us a little more information about this?

I don't know much about the military, but I would like to be assigned to a "brigade" such as those offered in the Army, so would this be the "green" side? Or I'd like an assignment on a small ship or base; if that's the case then does blue or green matter? How difficult is it to be assigned to one vs the other?

And finally, I'll be graduating in 2015. So if I do a 1 year AEGD, then I'll be done in 2016. Will this be a green or blue year? Sorry if I sound ignorant... I'm totally new to this.

As a junior dentist, if you are not in postgraduate education (AEGD, GPR, or a specialty residency), you will be expected to do a 2-3 year operational tour. For an operational tour, there are three possibilities:

1) You could be assigned to a ship. Usually, it is the larger ships that have dentists aboard. You will be stationed at the base where the ship is home-ported, and will go to sea whenever the ship is deploying or doing training exercises to prepare for deployment. Ships typically deploy for 6-7 months at a time every 18-24 months. While you are deployed with the ship, you can work on earning your Dental Surface Warfare pin.

2) You could be assigned to the Seabees (Navy construction battalion), and will deploy with them wherever they go. While deployed with the Seabees, you can work on earning your Seabee Combat Warfare Specialist pin.

3) You could be assigned to the Fleet Marine Force (FMF), otherwise known as the "green side". If assigned to the FMF, you will be attached to a Marine Corps unit to serve as their dentist, since the Marine Corps relies on the Navy for all of its medical care. When your Marine unit deploys (usually 6 months at a time) you will go with them. You may be deployed with Marines to Afghanistan, or you may be deployed with them on a ship; it all depends on what type of Marine unit you are assigned. While you are deployed with the FMF, you can work on earning your Fleet Marine Force pin.

It sounds like you are wanting to be assigned to the FMF, which is probably the most similar to the Army's brigade dentists. If you are planning on doing an AEGD, just rank Camp Pendleton and Camp Lejeune as your top two AEGD choices to guarantee an FMF assignment afterwards.

After your operational tour, you will typically be eligible for 2-3 years of shore duty at a shore-based Navy dental facility. Though this time is not considered an operational tour, you could still be tasked for an Individual Augmentee (IA) deployment, possibly with the Army for up to 12 months.
 
Are you able to pursue different metals and pins if you want to, such as the Marksmanship metals or other areas you may have a personal interest in? How much freedom is there is doing things like this?
 
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Are you able to pursue different metals and pins if you want to, such as the Marksmanship metals or other areas you may have a personal interest in? How much freedom is there is doing things like this?

The three pins that I mentioned are the only ones I know of that dentists would have the opportunity to earn. You can only work on earning them if you are in that type of assignment, so you can't be work on the Dental Surface Warfare pin if you are not assigned to a ship.

As for marksmanship medals, you will have the opportunity to qualify periodically on the M9 pistol, and you can earn the pistol marksmanship ribbon or medal depending on how well you shoot. I would imagine that, unless you can pull some strings at the range, the only chance you would get to earn the rifle marksmanship ribbon/medal would be if you served with the FMF. There are also Navy-wide rifle and pistol matches in which you can compete if one is being held close enough to where you are stationed. There are additional marksmanship badges that can be earned there, but you'd better be a damn good shot if you want to earn one.

There really isn't much else that I can think of. If you are wanting to be a badge collector and display a bunch of bling on your uniform, you should look into the Army.
 
There really isn't much else that I can think of. If you are wanting to be a badge collector and display a bunch of bling on your uniform, you should look into the Army.

So the Army are bling collectors? Explain that a little further and how the different branches differ in this regard.
 
So the Army are bling collectors? Explain that a little further and how the different branches differ in this regard.

I'm not saying that everyone in the Army is a bling collector, but the ability to do so is there. They have more badges and patches that they are allowed to earn, and they are authorized to display more trinkets on their uniforms than any of the other services. To illustrate this, here are pictures of three dentists from the different services:

Air Force Maj

Navy CAPT

Army LTC

If you really want a chuckle, check out General Petraeus. He ran out of room to pin stuff on his uniform, so now his aide probably wears some of his extra ribbons and badges.
 
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I'm not saying that everyone in the Army is a bling collector, but the ability to do so is there. They have more badges and patches that they are allowed to earn, and they are authorized to display more trinkets on their uniforms than any of the other services. To illustrate this, here are pictures of three dentists from the different services:

Air Force Maj

Navy CAPT

Army LTC

If you really want a chuckle, check out General Petraeus. He ran out of room to pin stuff on his uniform, so now his aide probably wears some of his extra ribbons and badges.

General Petraeus did give me a chuckle lol! I'm not interested in being all decked out as I can't stand clutter, but some of the activities sound sweet, like the marksman one. Shooting is already a hobby so it would be a good fit.
 
So let's say I get lucky and received a 3.5 year scholarship.

My school starts pretty late (September 20-something). So lets assume I was selected and commission in October of this year (fiscal2012). Will this "3.5" scholarship kick in right away after commissioning (in October)? Or will I have to wait until the next quarter begins?

Any advice/help is much appreciated :)
 
Not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but I may have misunderstood my recruiter on this, but he said that I will receive my signing bonus once I complete ODS this summer and that my monthly stipends will begin at that point, instead of starting normally once I enter school in August. Can someone clear this up? Thanks in advance.
 
If assigned with an operational marine unit, when credentialing for the fleet marine force pin as a dentist does one get to do any field training? My friend is Army HPSP and if they are assigned to a battalion they do quite a bit of field training with rifle training and airborne etc. I'm wondering if anything like that is possible in the Navy. Thank you.
 
Let's say you are on HPSP...does anyone know if having a master's degree would count towards years of service?

Also, do you get a military ID once you are commissioned even before going to training?
 
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Let's say you are on HPSP...does anyone know if having a master's degree would count towards years of service?

Also, do you get a military ID once you are commissioned even before going to training?

As far as it went for me, the masters degree didn't matter. They only care about the professional degree you're trying to get now.

You can get your ID as soon as you're in the system. I received mine about a month after swearing in. It doesn't matter whether or not you've been to training.
 
Hi
I am a US citizen and i graduated from a foreign dental schools, however i did my advanced standing in an ADA accredited dental schools and obtained US DDS. Also I did one year of OMFS internship and currently i'm enrolling in a fellowship program. I was wondering if there is any opportunity for joining an OMFS residency in NAVY???
 
Let's say you are on HPSP...does anyone know if having a master's degree would count towards years of service?

Also, do you get a military ID once you are commissioned even before going to training?

The only way a master's degree counts toward anything coming straight off the street into the military is entering rank when your designator requires a masters degree.
 
I am wondering if someone can tell me where the Navy bases are located for doing an Oral Surgery residency?
 
I've been doing research about the HPSP and HSCP programs and I've also received a booklet in the mail.

IMO, it sounds too good to be true. Is there anything that you wish you knew before having to serve? What are the cons from being overseas?

I'm just trying to weigh my options as I am extremely interested in the program.
 
I am looking into the HPSP through both the navy and the air force. I was just wondering what the average amount of time one can expect to spend on a ship per year or per 4 years. I think it would be very fun to be out to sea, but at the same time, I would miss my family. I know that the amount of time can't be predicted exactly, but I was just looking for an average. Thanks.
 
I'm interested in the answer to the above question as well because whenever someone explains why they decided not to go with the Navy Dental Corps it's because they didn't want to spend time on a ship. Honestly, this doesn't turn me off too much since I don't really see a huge difference between a deployment on land vs. one at sea. Either way you're gonna be practicing dentistry in a small space, missing your family. Maybe it's just the fact that a sea deployment is a sure thing in the Navy whereas deployments aren't for sure for other branches? It seems like working in a coastal clinic has obvious advantages over being in one of the many middle-of-nowhere Army bases. Any answers/ reactions to the above post and this one would be much appreciated!
 
I am looking into the HPSP through both the navy and the air force. I was just wondering what the average amount of time one can expect to spend on a ship per year or per 4 years. I think it would be very fun to be out to sea, but at the same time, I would miss my family. I know that the amount of time can't be predicted exactly, but I was just looking for an average. Thanks.

The amount of time you can expect to be on a carrier is 2 years unless you request for a 1 year extension. Now, not all this time is out to sea. But, the amount of time will vary depending on where in the ship's cycle you transfer to the ship. It could be as little as 50% of the time at sea if you happen to fall in the cycle at the right time or as much as 70% if you are aren't as fortunate enough. I happened to be attached to the carrier for 3 years. I just happened to attach to the ship as the ship was coming out of the yard period where it had undergone 4 1/2 months of maintenance following a deployment. This meant that we went to sea for the first time shortly after getting to the ship. You undergo the work-ups and qualifications which can vary from a week to 2 months long. These are needed to get ready for deployment. In the 37 months I was attached to the ship, I was out to sea for 27 months. Yes, being out to sea that much did stink at times, but I had already been dealing with being away from my wife because of her schooling, so we had already been facing separation at that point. But, coming home - well, that was nice!:D:D:D Being out to sea really wasn't bad all the time. You would get into a routine and stay busy. In off time, you can exercise, play games, catch up on movies, get your SWDO warfare device, etc. Then, there are the port calls which are nice. In my 3 yrs on the ship, I deployed twice. We made port calls in Hawaii, Guam, Japan, Singapore, Thailand, South Korea, Australia, Tasmania, and Hong Kong . If you get stationed on the East coast, then you get port calls in the Mediteranean Sea and other places.
 
How long are the deployments on average? When are you out to see for 24-27 months, how is that time broken up? Is like 6 months in the ocean, 1 month back at an American base?
 
How long are the deployments on average? When are you out to see for 24-27 months, how is that time broken up? Is like 6 months in the ocean, 1 month back at an American base?

Deployments on an aircraft carrier - 6 to 7 months

A typical deployment cycle includes:



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The picture above is the typical schedule that is followed. I know the acronyms mean nothing to you, but each is a type of certification and training that is needed before a ship can go to the next step and eventually deploy.

1. yard period - (4 1/2 to 11 months) - fixing the ship up getting it updated and ready for the next deployment

2. fast cruise and sea trials - 5 days to a week - take the ship out to sea to test all systems to make sure things are working properly and to begin basic training for individuals that transferred to the ship during the yard period and refresher for those who were deployed before.

After this the training schedule can really vary and times can vary. There are 3 phases of training:
1. Basic training
2. Intermediate training
3. Advanced training

Within each phase of training are specific levels of training that are necessary to be completed before the ship can continue on with further training. Not all of the levels of training within a phase may be completed in one given u nderway period. Or if a carrier is placed on a "rush" cycle, parts of two phases may be completed in one underway period. Basically, the underway periods consist of a lot of training and drills. The underway periods last from a couple weeks to as many as two months I cannot tell you a typical time in, time out to sea breakdown because it really can vary. But, refer back to a previous post where I said expect to be out to sea anywhere from 50 to 70 percent of the time during a 2 year tour on the ship depending on when you transfer to the ship. But, I will say even though it may vary you may be out to sea for 2 weeks, back for 2 to 4 weeks, out for a month, back for a couple weeks, out for 4 to 6 weeks back for a month and maybe one more cycle before the deployment. I know this may have been a little rambled, but I hope you can get a little bit of an idea of a ship deployment cycle out of this. If not, you can go to the following link where it discusses the various components of a deployment cycle. There are links in the right column where you can see specifics for each level of training if you desire this.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/idtc.htm


Then, once all the training is complete, the ship goes into a scheduled pre-deployment down period for a month so people can take vacation and spend time with the family (usually broken down into (2) two week periods). Then the 6 to 7 month deployment comes. After the deployment, the ship goes into another month down period. Afterward, the ship gets ready for the yard period again.
 
Navy DDS 2010,
So just to get this straight, during these training intervals a dental officer would continue work as usual more or less treating sailors on the carrier during the yard period, sea trials, deployment workups, 6 month deployment ect.?
 
Deployments on an aircraft carrier - 6 to 7 months

A typical deployment cycle includes:



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The picture above is the typical schedule that is followed. I know the acronyms mean nothing to you, but each is a type of certification and training that is needed before a ship can go to the next step and eventually deploy.

1. yard period - (4 1/2 to 11 months) - fixing the ship up getting it updated and ready for the next deployment

2. fast cruise and sea trials - 5 days to a week - take the ship out to sea to test all systems to make sure things are working properly and to begin basic training for individuals that transferred to the ship during the yard period and refresher for those who were deployed before.

After this the training schedule can really vary and times can vary. There are 3 phases of training:
1. Basic training
2. Intermediate training
3. Advanced training

Within each phase of training are specific levels of training that are necessary to be completed before the ship can continue on with further training. Not all of the levels of training within a phase may be completed in one given u nderway period. Or if a carrier is placed on a "rush" cycle, parts of two phases may be completed in one underway period. Basically, the underway periods consist of a lot of training and drills. The underway periods last from a couple weeks to as many as two months I cannot tell you a typical time in, time out to sea breakdown because it really can vary. But, refer back to a previous post where I said expect to be out to sea anywhere from 50 to 70 percent of the time during a 2 year tour on the ship depending on when you transfer to the ship. But, I will say even though it may vary you may be out to sea for 2 weeks, back for 2 to 4 weeks, out for a month, back for a couple weeks, out for 4 to 6 weeks back for a month and maybe one more cycle before the deployment. I know this may have been a little rambled, but I hope you can get a little bit of an idea of a ship deployment cycle out of this. If not, you can go to the following link where it discusses the various components of a deployment cycle. There are links in the right column where you can see specifics for each level of training if you desire this.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/idtc.htm


Then, once all the training is complete, the ship goes into a scheduled pre-deployment down period for a month so people can take vacation and spend time with the family (usually broken down into (2) two week periods). Then the 6 to 7 month deployment comes. After the deployment, the ship goes into another month down period. Afterward, the ship gets ready for the yard period again.

Would you happen to have similar information on deployment schedules for a green billet attachment? Thanks.
 
Navy DDS 2010,
So just to get this straight, during these training intervals a dental officer would continue work as usual more or less treating sailors on the carrier during the yard period, sea trials, deployment workups, 6 month deployment ect.?

The duties of a dental officer is the same in port or underway. The only thing that changes really is that when the ship is underway, the dental officers obviously sleep on the ship and there is usually an ~ 2 hour long evening clinic session Monday through Saturday. Other than that, the jobs are the same.
 
Would you happen to have similar information on deployment schedules for a green billet attachment? Thanks.

Smills, I don't have have one, but I can ask a friend who has spent a lot of his time as a green side dentist. I'll see if there is a generic deployment schedule that he can give me or a site he can direct me to. I guess I should know this since I want to go green side as well.
 
The duties of a dental officer is the same in port or underway. The only thing that changes really is that when the ship is underway, the dental officers obviously sleep on the ship and there is usually an ~ 2 hour long evening clinic session Monday through Saturday. Other than that, the jobs are the same.

I'm actually kinda impressed that there are enough patients to keep the dentist so busy on a deployed carrier. I guess if there are hundreds of sailors and only a few dentists it makes sense that they can fill long workdays. That seems pretty cool because you'd get a ton of experience while at sea.
 
I'm actually kinda impressed that there are enough patients to keep the dentist so busy on a deployed carrier. I guess if there are hundreds of sailors and only a few dentists it makes sense that they can fill long workdays. That seems pretty cool because you'd get a ton of experience while at sea.

Try 5,000 +/- 200 people attached to the ship deployed with 3 general dentists, 1 oral surgeon and the department head who does a little dentistry who can be pretty much any any type of dentist. Plus, if any sailor from a ship that is attached to the carrier group needs emergent dental care, they are med-evac'ed to the carrier for dental care.
 
Smills, I don't have have one, but I can ask a friend who has spent a lot of his time as a green side dentist. I'll see if there is a generic deployment schedule that he can give me or a site he can direct me to. I guess I should know this since I want to go green side as well.
Thanks, That would be greatly appreciated.
 
Smills, I don't have have one, but I can ask a friend who has spent a lot of his time as a green side dentist. I'll see if there is a generic deployment schedule that he can give me or a site he can direct me to. I guess I should know this since I want to go green side as well.

What is a green side dentist? :confused: (And also, why do you want to go to it?)
 
What is a green side dentist? :confused: (And also, why do you want to go to it?)

Navy healthcare teams take care of Navy and Marine personnel. So, when you are attached to Navy units, it is referred to as the blue side. When stationed with Marine units, it is referred to as the green side.

As far as why I want to go green, most of the people I know who have spent time with the Marines have loved it. So, I want to experience why they enjoy it.
 

Navy healthcare teams take care of Navy and Marine personnel. So, when you are attached to Navy units, it is referred to as the blue side. When stationed with Marine units, it is referred to as the green side.

As far as why I want to go green, most of the people I know who have spent time with the Marines have loved it. So, I want to experience why they enjoy it.

Ahah, thank you. I think I'd definitely want to hear more from people who experienced it to even consider that. From the way you guys talk about it, I'm guessing being attached to Marines is usually a voluntary assignment?
 
Ahah, thank you. I think I'd definitely want to hear more from people who experienced it to even consider that. From the way you guys talk about it, I'm guessing being attached to Marines is usually a voluntary assignment?

No, the Marines aren't a voluntary assignment. You will place your 'wish list' of assignments, but in the end if there is a hard fill that needs to be filled soon, so you may not get one of your 'wish list' locations. They try to accomodate duty location requests, but the needs of they Navy/Marines will always prevail when necessary.
 
Thanks for the good info! So, let me see if I understand. In my 4 years of active duty for the repayment of HPSP, I could expect being assigned for 2 years to a carrier and 2 years to some naval base?
 
Thanks for the good info! So, let me see if I understand. In my 4 years of active duty for the repayment of HPSP, I could expect being assigned for 2 years to a carrier and 2 years to some naval base?

No, not necessarily. First, you are going to need to do either a 1 yr credentialing tour or an AEGD. The 1 yr credentialing tour counts towards your payback time. The AEGD is a neutral year. After that, you can be stationed at a base, on a ship, or with the Marines. Where you do your payback time really depends on what is available or what is needed at the time you are ready to go to the fleet.
 
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