Official Rutgers Pre-Med Guide

this so cool...its been 5 years since i posted in this thread...wow wow haha...well i am a 2nd yr med student now....time flies fast!

now that im finally in, im going to take myself off of all of those annoying as hell AMSA/AED mailing lists. God damn those guys are annoying. you know who im talking about.

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now that im finally in, im going to take myself off of all of those annoying as hell AMSA/AED mailing lists. God damn those guys are annoying. you know who im talking about.

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LOL they are hella annoying! Omg I was thinking about the same thing the other day. I'm even still on HPO's mailing list even though I graduated in May and made it into med school. To think I actually used to care about that nonsense....

Anyone out there part of the NB post bacc program??

Hey all, I'm an incoming student to Rutgers about to enter my freshman year. I'm taking pretty much your basic pre-med classes (Calc 151, Expos, Gen Bio, Gen Chem, and a seminar (What do Corporations Owe Society)).

I have a bunch of volunteer work... maybe not a bunch but there's still a lot going on here: River Road Fire Company (probably going to Fire School next summer), River Road Rescue Squad (about to get my EMT Cert), semi-active volunteer at Saint Pete's University Hospital.

I just recently got in contact with a doctor about ideally shadowing him throughout the year so if this goes well, I'll have that on my belt.

I'm looking to get into the BA/MD program that is offered jointly with UMDNJ/RWJ. What else can I do to ensure acceptance? There is a lab I'm trying to get a job with (~5-10 hours a week so it's pretty sweet for $12/hr).

I'm really scared about this. My parents are paying for my education by deducting from their 401k and I feel absolutely TERRIBLE about this (it is my fault for not working ot my potential) so I do not want to let them down again.

I must be a doctor. MUST.

Please counsel me.

icevermin said:

Hey all, I'm an incoming student to Rutgers about to enter my freshman year. I'm taking pretty much your basic pre-med classes (Calc 151, Expos, Gen Bio, Gen Chem, and a seminar (What do Corporations Owe Society)).

I have a bunch of volunteer work... maybe not a bunch but there's still a lot going on here: River Road Fire Company (probably going to Fire School next summer), River Road Rescue Squad (about to get my EMT Cert), semi-active volunteer at Saint Pete's University Hospital.

I just recently got in contact with a doctor about ideally shadowing him throughout the year so if this goes well, I'll have that on my belt.

I'm looking to get into the BA/MD program that is offered jointly with UMDNJ/RWJ. What else can I do to ensure acceptance? There is a lab I'm trying to get a job with (~5-10 hours a week so it's pretty sweet for $12/hr).

I'm really scared about this. My parents are paying for my education by deducting from their 401k and I feel absolutely TERRIBLE about this (it is my fault for not working ot my potential) so I do not want to let them down again.

I must be a doctor. MUST.

Please counsel me.

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get a job. take out loans. no need for them to do all that.

anyways...im a senior at rutgers (NB), and im in the middle of the app process. just so you know, the BA/MD program is HARD to get into, but worth it. i didnt even bother b/c you need a >3.9 gpa to be competitive. feel free to PM me for advice (what classes to take, best professors, ANYTHING else, etc.)

icevermin said:

Hey all, I'm an incoming student to Rutgers about to enter my freshman year. I'm taking pretty much your basic pre-med classes (Calc 151, Expos, Gen Bio, Gen Chem, and a seminar (What do Corporations Owe Society)).

I have a bunch of volunteer work... maybe not a bunch but there's still a lot going on here: River Road Fire Company (probably going to Fire School next summer), River Road Rescue Squad (about to get my EMT Cert), semi-active volunteer at Saint Pete's University Hospital.

I just recently got in contact with a doctor about ideally shadowing him throughout the year so if this goes well, I'll have that on my belt.

I'm looking to get into the BA/MD program that is offered jointly with UMDNJ/RWJ. What else can I do to ensure acceptance? There is a lab I'm trying to get a job with (~5-10 hours a week so it's pretty sweet for $12/hr).

I'm really scared about this. My parents are paying for my education by deducting from their 401k and I feel absolutely TERRIBLE about this (it is my fault for not working ot my potential) so I do not want to let them down again.

I must be a doctor. MUST.

Please counsel me.

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Okay I have many things I wish to discuss so my apologies if it seems unorganized.

Firstly, I will indeed be shadowing a doctor starting next Tuesday. I'm extremely excited for this opportunity. Next, I am about to wrap up my EMT class. All I need to do is ten hours worth of hospital time, pass my class final exam, and then pass the state final exam and bam I will then be an official EMT.

However, I do not know if just riding with RRRS, RRFC, and shadowing this doctor will be enough. Should I take on anything else or should I focus on my grades? Keep in mind that on top of this I train in Muay Thai, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and go to a gym regularly. Is that enough or should I perhaps try to begin volunteering at Robert Wood Johnson come September?

Further, how should I go about getting time in at a lab? Meaning, how can I find a lab to work in? I don't exactly think being that lab/office assistant is what working in a lab is all about and I really want to do research. What's the best way to get into a lab?

Lastly, what are the best studying habits? My Muay Thai instructor told me that he read each chapter before class and after class and read the notes maybe once a week. My perspective was do the homework when it's first received, and then review it before class. Empirically speaking, what do you guys suggest?

I really care a lot about making my dream a reality and I want the best guidance to ensure that it happens.

Thank you

PS: I was on the verge of taking out loans but my mom stopped me due to high interest.

Rruuuuu. Exercise Phys Major

I'm taking orgo with Boikess
Physics w/ Gentile (I wanted to take Extended but the first session starts in spring and I wanna take the MCAT next summer)
Neuromechanical Kinesiology with Manfredonia
a Comp and Applications class.
and TA for Anatomy

I pretty much know what to expect but anybody have to take the kinesiology class? I can't find any ratings for Manfredonia.

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Is that enough or should I perhaps try to begin volunteering at Robert Wood Johnson come September?

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I work at RWJUH right now and the volunteers don't do ****tt. From what I've seen they escort patients around and some are designated to sit at the nurses station on a floor and answer the call bell. Most of them are young though so it's possible I don't see what the older volunteers do. I think their shadowing program is pretty good though so I'm going to check that out next week after my summer class ends.

RUc10 said:

Rruuuuu. Exercise Phys Major

I'm taking orgo with Boikess
Physics w/ Gentile (I wanted to take Extended but the first session starts in spring and I wanna take the MCAT next summer)
Neuromechanical Kinesiology with Manfredonia
a Comp and Applications class.
and TA for Anatomy

I pretty much know what to expect but anybody have to take the kinesiology class? I can't find any ratings for Manfredonia.

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orgo with boikess is a mistake. your definitely putting yourself at a disadvantage by not taking o'connor. i know hes hard to get, but therse a reason for that.

and btw...extended physics (the one in spring): brahmia teaches it...and w/o a doubt in my mind, dr. brahmia was the best professor i have ever seen. no teacher truly cares about his students more than he does...and i NEVER fell asleep in his class...hes VERY lively and encouraging. i remember he caught one of my friends "possibly" using the teachers manual for hw problems...he didnt get him in trouble, but instead told him he doesnt care..b/c the only person who's losing out is the student, and that he knows the manual is out there, but hopes students will take initiative and WANT to do good. also, when the dept. considered getting clickers to make kids come to class, he got up and said that its a bad idea...that the problem is teachers..and that teachers should be so good that students WANT to come to class. his class was one of the few that didnt have clickers...yet it was always packed. truly amazing guy. jus check out his ratemyprof.

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orgo with boikess is a mistake. your definitely putting yourself at a disadvantage by not taking o'connor. i know hes hard to get, but therse a reason for that.

and btw...extended physics (the one in spring): brahmia teaches it...and w/o a doubt in my mind, dr. brahmia was the best professor i have ever seen. no teacher truly cares about his students more than he does...and i NEVER fell asleep in his class...hes VERY lively and encouraging. i remember he caught one of my friends "possibly" using the teachers manual for hw problems...he didnt get him in trouble, but instead told him he doesnt care..b/c the only person who's losing out is the student, and that he knows the manual is out there, but hopes students will take initiative and WANT to do good. also, when the dept. considered getting clickers to make kids come to class, he got up and said that its a bad idea...that the problem is teachers..and that teachers should be so good that students WANT to come to class. his class was one of the few that didnt have clickers...yet it was always packed. truly amazing guy. jus check out his ratemyprof.

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I've heard about O'Connor but rumor was that he retired last year so he wasn't listed as a professor for Orgo. Then out of nowhere in like July his name was added to the list with Boikess and Roth. So it's possible all three may be teaching the class next semester? Or it's possible that RU is just trying to pull a fast one on the students because they know students prefer O'Connor so they just put his name next to all the sections though he may not be teaching them.

I've heard great reviews on Brahmia, both on rmp.com and word of mouth but with the plan I have that means I'd only have one semester of physics going in to the MCAT. I know it isn't purely knowledge based but it probably couldn't hurt to have both semesters under my belt.

RUc10 said:

I've heard about O'Connor but rumor was that he retired last year so he wasn't listed as a professor for Orgo. Then out of nowhere in like July his name was added to the list with Boikess and Roth. So it's possible all three may be teaching the class next semester? Or it's possible that RU is just trying to pull a fast one on the students because they know students prefer O'Connor so they just put his name next to all the sections though he may not be teaching them.

I've heard great reviews on Brahmia, both on rmp.com and word of mouth but with the plan I have that means I'd only have one semester of physics going in to the MCAT. I know it isn't purely knowledge based but it probably couldn't hurt to have both semesters under my belt.

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then yea it doesn't fit your plans. honestly, the physics dept. at rutgers is just plain great, partly because dr. brahmia and his wife both teach physics and have a huge say in the dept. you'll be fine with whatever physics you take. the reason i suggest extended is:

1) its 5 credits and an A=85. you must realize how much a 5-credit A will help raise your cGPA and sGPA
2) Dr. Brahmia is one of those professors that can change your life. I mean it is a 5 credit class and if you go to the review session he has every friday in ARC, you'll be having a physics class every day. but i remember once in class, he asked us who is coming to his review session that upcoming weekend, and one kid raised his hand, and he was like "that's enough for me". the entire class aside, it shows you that if you love something as much as he does (which is teaching physics for him), you will be great.

Hmm, I'm actually considering it now. I never really thought about the 5 credit advantage towards my sGPA. Not only does it help, it's probably easier to take than the either of the other 2 courses. I wanted to take both orgo and physics right before the MCAT but I guess if take extended then I'll just have a 1 semester layoff from orgo and then I can take MCAT in '10 and use spring semester '10 as a prep time. I was going to take 5 years to do my undergrad anyway because I want to study abroad for a semester and my first semester gpa sucked also so I wanted to take extra classes just to boost my gpa a bit.

quideam said:

Dude, don't go to Newark. The New Brunswick campus is much better - it's rated a lot higher and has better facilities, etc. I hate to say this, but if the Newark campus holds a better rep for admissions, that may just be because they have a higher percentage of URMs. If you're making a choice based on best shot at med school, DEFINETLY go to New Brunswick. Try to go to Rutgers College if you can (it's seen as the most prestigious).

Lotsa Luck

- Quid

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I know this post was quite old but I just want to say that this is flat out untrue coming from some one that attended newark for the first 3 semesters and then transferred to NB. I don't know who feeds NB students the BS that Newark is easier too but that is false as well. I'm assuming that myth comes from NB students who take summer classes in Newark... but non fall/spring classes are always easy. New Brunswick does have many more opportunities and feels more like a college atmosphere however, as far as getting into medical school I think one will do fine at either NB or Newark. Though the high school gpa's to get admitted are higher, talking to students and seeing students in science classes in NB and Newark, NB students aren't any smarter once admitted than Newark students.

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I think you misunderstood me. I gained acceptance to rutgers newark, new brunswick (rutgers college), as well as cook campus and have attended newark for a year now. I know that new brunswick has a nice campus, but newark really is a good campus as well (the only thing that sucks here is the social life). The teachers are top rate (for the most part) and actually the pre-medical facilities here are quite good. Dr. Maiello is wonderful, and a real asset to any ambitious premed student. I fully agree that perhaps socially new brunswick has a better campus, but academically I really wouldn't put newark down. Not to say I'm still not tempted to transfer due to social reasons. You also may be right about URM's as the newark campus is highly diversified, and that would not work in my favor as I am not a minority.

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I agree. Dr. Maiello is the man... I didn't think I would be able to sit through his part of Bio but he makes it very interesting. And he also seems very interested in students that are pre-med so he's a great person to run that program.

I transferred to NB for two reasons: 1) NB is way more social and you'll enjoy life outside of pre-med studies much more than in Newark. 2) I commute and my house is 15 minutes from NB whereas I'm 40 minutes from Newark.

I work at RWJUH right now and the volunteers don't do ****tt. From what I've seen they escort patients around and some are designated to sit at the nurses station on a floor and answer the call bell. Most of them are young though so it's possible I don't see what the older volunteers do. I think their shadowing program is pretty good though so I'm going to check that out next week after my summer class ends.

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Okay, I dunno why I can't use the regular reply feature (it's shaded out for me) so I have to do this through quick reply.

I'm really excited about shadowing this doctor, like, I can't even begin to describe it. I just have to maintain excellent grades and I think a position in this program will be guaranteed for me.

What do you guys advise for me to do in the meantime?

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Okay, I dunno why I can't use the regular reply feature (it's shaded out for me) so I have to do this through quick reply.

I'm really excited about shadowing this doctor, like, I can't even begin to describe it. I just have to maintain excellent grades and I think a position in this program will be guaranteed for me.

What do you guys advise for me to do in the meantime?

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I don't think anything is guaranteed. You can never be too certain. With a high g.p.a. and good MCAT then with a good interview you'll most likely get in but if you're limiting yourself to those 3 EC's then you're really not making yourself the best applicant you can be... which is a necessity when you're competing against people that are anal about this process and spend every free second doing something that improves their application.

As far as that doctor though. It may help. I was pretty excited because a female research doctor for RWJMS was conducting a study on a patient on my floor and she was having some problems with orders for the patient as well as some other things and after I helped her out she made small talk and when she found out I was pre-med she gave me her card and said to e-mail her to see if maybe she can set up some type of internship. Connections are big so if you get lucky and meet the right person it can't hurt.

I don't think anything is guaranteed. You can never be too certain. With a high g.p.a. and good MCAT then with a good interview you'll most likely get in but if you're limiting yourself to those 3 EC's then you're really not making yourself the best applicant you can be... which is a necessity when you're competing against people that are anal about this process and spend every free second doing something that improves their application.

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I'm not just sticking with those three (Rescue Squad, Fire Department, and Shadow) if that's what you're referring to. I'm really excited to join the RUBJJ team and also the Muay Thai team. So it'll actually be like 5, I'm hoping to get a job at Saint Peters (weekends only thank god) otherwise just stay unemployed to focus on my grades.

But I'm going for that 8 year BA/MD program that you apply for at the end of your sophomore year. Also next summer one of our family friends who works at Bristol Myer's Squibb is hopefully going to hook me up with an internship.

I'm trying extremely hard to make the appropriate connections while balancing my grades and such.

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I'm not just sticking with those three (Rescue Squad, Fire Department, and Shadow) if that's what you're referring to. I'm really excited to join the RUBJJ team and also the Muay Thai team. So it'll actually be like 5, I'm hoping to get a job at Saint Peters (weekends only thank god) otherwise just stay unemployed to focus on my grades.

But I'm going for that 8 year BA/MD program that you apply for at the end of your sophomore year. Also next summer one of our family friends who works at Bristol Myer's Squibb is hopefully going to hook me up with an internship.

I'm trying extremely hard to make the appropriate connections while balancing my grades and such.

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i really think you should start Rutgers first. High School is nothing like what you will experience at College. I am in no way doubting your abilities, but you already seem to have alot on your plate, yet you haven't experienced taking a full college load of courses . Plus, freshmen year was probably the best year of my life. Enjoy it while you can. You'll have a whole lifetime to study. Have some fun. Make some friends (after freshmen year, the number of friends you make will drastically go down, as most have already formed their cliques). Go to some Rutgers games. Go to downtown NB. (and dare i say it - party).

Best of luck in the 8 year program . Just know you're competing with the best of the best.

Yay! Go Rutgers!

I know O'Conner is gone. But, I liked Boikess. He changed the entire way the course is taught...

And as for Bio, Transue was the best professor I've ever had.

I'm a transfer student from Newark to New Brunswick as well, and though I'm really happy to be going to NB, I'll wait till I've been there for a while to pass judgement. Newark definitely didn't sit well with me though, especially if you dorm.

Also, does anyone know about Taylor? I'm taking Prin. of Orgo next year.

Enjoying your freshman year while you can = Epic fail, in my experience. Too many people use that excuse to fail all their classes. If you can juggle everything, than good for you lol, you'll probably make a great doctor.

I'm going for the 7 year BA/MD too. Believe me, nothing's guaranteed. Every applicant will be just as good if not better than you. Good luck dude.

I'm looking to greatly expand my extracurriculars in New Brunswick (god I hated Newark's lack of ECs)...any recommendations? Is the Pre-Med Club actually useful in New Brunswick? because it was totally useless in Newark.

Also, I heard that local Rescue Squads will pick you up in their ambulances. Do any of you know which ones do this? I'm an EMT but I don't have a car and I would love to volunteer during the year...too far away from my home squad.

Also, opinions about Human Parasitology, by any chance? lol, ok I'm done.

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Also, opinions about Human Parasitology, by any chance? lol, ok I'm done.

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I took Human Parasitology with Keating. Saturday morning + 3 hours can equal hell, unless you go to class with friends. You take so much notes though that you don't fall asleep. She basically writes it on a projector and you copy it down. She gives "pop quizzes" that only count as points added to your final exam grade.

Lots of memorization, but overall an easy class for an upper level if you don't mind taking a Saturday morning class. It definitely freed up my schedule during the week to do other stuff.

PS: GET OLD EXAMS! she repeats LOTS of questions.

VornVolken said:

Also, opinions about Human Parasitology, by any chance? lol, ok I'm done.

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I took it with Dr. Dennis, so if you have him, make sure you complete the review sheets he hands out. Parasitology is the epitome of rote memorization, so you have got to know your stuff backwards and forwards. He has a lot of matching questions as well as questions that are in the I only, I and II, II and III, I and III, or I, II, III blah blah format, therefore, it is imperative to be able to distinguish answers. I found the class to be interesting, which probably made it easier for me to study. Like the above poster who took it with Dr. Keating, try to get a hold of old exams. Good luck!

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I'm a transfer student from Newark to New Brunswick as well, and though I'm really happy to be going to NB, I'll wait till I've been there for a while to pass judgement. Newark definitely didn't sit well with me though, especially if you dorm.

Also, does anyone know about Taylor? I'm taking Prin. of Orgo next year.

Enjoying your freshman year while you can = Epic fail, in my experience. Too many people use that excuse to fail all their classes. If you can juggle everything, than good for you lol, you'll probably make a great doctor.

I'm going for the 7 year BA/MD too. Believe me, nothing's guaranteed. Every applicant will be just as good if not better than you. Good luck dude.

I'm looking to greatly expand my extracurriculars in New Brunswick (god I hated Newark's lack of ECs)...any recommendations? Is the Pre-Med Club actually useful in New Brunswick? because it was totally useless in Newark.

Also, I heard that local Rescue Squads will pick you up in their ambulances. Do any of you know which ones do this? I'm an EMT but I don't have a car and I would love to volunteer during the year...too far away from my home squad.

Also, opinions about Human Parasitology, by any chance? lol, ok I'm done.

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Enjoy taking some ECs in NB. The amount of things you can do in NB that Newark that doesn't have is astounding. I guess it would be acceptable if you paid more to attend NB but it's the same price. Take a couple classes that just peak your interest. Also, get into some intramurals if you're into sports. The participation from students is wayyy more in NB. I've heard Parasitology is a good course if you're actually interested in it. I had a friend that took the Saturday class. Don't take it if you have an otherwise heavy courseload or you had to look up Parasitology before you registered for the course.

Anyone take Calc II in NB? I was going to take it this fall but ended up dropping it because of advice I got. And anyone know who the best professor for systems phys is? Does it even matter?

RUc10 said:

Anyone take Calc II in NB? I was going to take it this fall but ended up dropping it because of advice I got. And anyone know who the best professor for systems phys is? Does it even matter?

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I took calc II at NB. It is definitely the hardest calc class I think (1-5).

hey,

i posted this before, but i figured it would be more helpful to get some advice from fellow RU students, given that you guys know the class structures and what not. So, I'm debating on whether to take orgo with physics (physics for sciences w/ Gentile), or whether to take orgo this year and physics next year. While I would like to get these classes out of the way and fulfill my major classes (i'm an Econ major btw), I don't know which path to take.

My decision of taking orgo and physics together is questionable, especially since orgo lab meets like 6 hours a week, and orgo lab combined with orgo, physics, and physics lab would be too much. But I've also heard that most of the time sophs. get the RU screw and orgo labs usually fill up around spring semester, so a lot of people are stuck taking orgo lab after taking orgo (usually junior year). With that said, can anyone please give me some suggestions?

Also, when would it be best to take the MCAT? In the event that I decide to take the MCAT next summer, would I have the option of concealing my score to med schools?

thanks a lot, I really appreciate it.

RUpremed said:

hey,

i posted this before, but i figured it would be more helpful to get some advice from fellow RU students, given that you guys know the class structures and what not. So, I'm debating on whether to take orgo with physics (physics for sciences w/ Gentile), or whether to take orgo this year and physics next year. While I would like to get these classes out of the way and fulfill my major classes (i'm an Econ major btw), I don't know which path to take.

My decision of taking orgo and physics together is questionable, especially since orgo lab meets like 6 hours a week, and orgo lab combined with orgo, physics, and physics lab would be too much. But I've also heard that most of the time sophs. get the RU screw and orgo labs usually fill up around spring semester, so a lot of people are stuck taking orgo lab after taking orgo (usually junior year). With that said, can anyone please give me some suggestions?

Also, when would it be best to take the MCAT? In the event that I decide to take the MCAT next summer, would I have the option of concealing my score to med schools?

thanks a lot, I really appreciate it.

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I actually face the same dilemma as you except I'm going to be a junior now. First off, orgo lab does take forever but it's only one semester and orgo 1 is a prereq so if you take orgo and physics with lab you'll know after the end of that semester whether or not you can handle orgo lab as well. You can't go wrong with physics though. If you decide to hold off on physics you should take extended as I've heard nothing but good reviews for that class. I'll be taking Physics with Gentile because my major prefers that I take for the Sciences and because I can't wait to take extended because I want to take the MCAT next summer. I don't know too much about your MCAT question, do a search for it. As far as I know unless you choose to cancel your score before the end of the exam when you apply to medical school all scores, however many times you took it, will be visible to them. So it is in your best interest to make sure you're prepared the first time around.

RUc10 said:

Anyone take Calc II in NB? I was going to take it this fall but ended up dropping it because of advice I got. And anyone know who the best professor for systems phys is? Does it even matter?

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YES IT DOES MATTER! you'll realize (if you haven't already) that it doesn't matter what class you take, but what teacher you have. i had two options. take it in the fall with auerbach/john-alder, or take it in the spring with two others (dont remember the name). The spring is ALOT harder, but the curve is much more generous (80=A). The fall is easier, but less of a curve. personally, i would rather have an easy class with the regular curve (90=A) than a harder class with a big curve.

plus, auerbach is the nicest guy and he tells the funniest sex jokes in class. you'll be like "did he jus say that" to your friends ALL the time. hahahaha

overall, i still stand by my opinion that system phys was my favorite class overall at Rutgers. i took it with auerbach in the fall. good luck.

hopefuldoc87 said:

YES IT DOES MATTER! you'll realize (if you haven't already) that it doesn't matter what class you take, but what teacher you have. i had two options. take it in the fall with auerbach/john-alder, or take it in the spring with two others (dont remember the name). The spring is ALOT harder, but the curve is much more generous (80=A). The fall is easier, but less of a curve. personally, i would rather have an easy class with the regular curve (90=A) than a harder class with a big curve.

plus, auerbach is the nicest guy and he tells the funniest sex jokes in class. you'll be like "did he jus say that" to your friends ALL the time. hahahaha

overall, i still stand by my opinion that system phys was my favorite class overall at Rutgers. i took it with auerbach in the fall. good luck.

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Hey yeah I had heard the same from a lot of people...and took system phys this semester thinking auerbach would be teaching it...but it ended up being Dr. Merill's class...and half of his course is being taught by this brazilian lady...who like barely knows english. I was gonna drop it or switch with Alders Animal histology but nothing worked.
Has nyone taken system physiology with these professors and knows how to approach the exam? how to prepare?
A lot of students asked her to give us atleast some clue about how to study but she doesnt seem too keen abt helping students...

Thanks for the all comments and advice.
will write my experience very soon.

For Calculus I, II, and IV (151/152/?) Vladamir Shtelen is a terrible teacher. If you have him, you're honestly better switching classes. This man cannot teach and will screw over your GPA unless you are already extremely proficient in mathematics. This man is no doubt brilliant, but he will not teach you what you need to know.

RUc10 said:

Anyone take Calc II in NB? I was going to take it this fall but ended up dropping it because of advice I got. And anyone know who the best professor for systems phys is? Does it even matter?

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Calc 162 is far more easier than the Calc 152 variant. I don't know if adcoms will know the difference.

GoGiants89 said:

Yay! Go Rutgers!

I know O'Conner is gone. But, I liked Boikess. He changed the entire way the course is taught...

And as for Bio, Transue was the best professor I've ever had.

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Oh God. No way. I don't like Boikess at all. They changed the system they have in place. Now all three professors teach the same class. Boikess/Rothman (lol just lol)/O'Connor teach eight lectures each. Boikess just finished the first four chapters. I think he did a pretty shoddy job. Finished cycloalkanes and now we have Roth with his classic German pronounciation coming into play.

Do you guys know what the mean numerical score is for Organic Chem with Boikess? Thanks in advance.

ComRiff said:

Do you guys know what the mean numerical score is for Organic Chem with Boikess? Thanks in advance.

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Not sure what it was for when he was the only professor teaching the class but this year the average the exam based on the chapters he lectured was a 57.



Oh and just to let off a little steam... ROTH BLOWS.

RUc10 said:

Not sure what it was for when he was the only professor teaching the class but this year the average the exam based on the chapters he lectured was a 57.



Oh and just to let off a little steam... ROTH BLOWS.

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Have any of you guys heard about what kind of curve Orgo 307 has?

Hey guys, rutgers grad here.

for some of the above posts regarding the BA/MD program:

the numbers, ECs are one thing, but I have met PLENTY of people with numbers and ECs like one previous gung ho poster who did not get in, simply because of PERSONALITY. locking yourself in a room and studying, or doing everything on the face of the planet to slap it on an application will be very transparent.

The BA/MD is looking for people with a certain kind of personable, relaxed, and friendly personality that will help you guys transition easy not just amongst yourselves, but with the normal med students as well. Do you think the students conducting your interviews are looking to add another gunner to their class? I can tell you personally that non of the BA/MDs in my class have that cut throat, pull-the-ladder-out-from-under-your-grandma mentality. We like them, and we would only select (or make recommendations for selection) for people we think WE would want to study with as well as crack open a cold one with.

Another thing to consider: although the BA/MD program has its merits, think about what you would be giving up. New Brunswick is the most fun, exciting, kick ass place when you are an upperclassman. As a BA/MD student, you would be giving up a time that you will NEVER be able to enjoy again for the rest of your life. You will have another 60+ years to not have fun and study. I wouldnt trade those last two years on the banks for the world.

Thats enough ranting. If you guys have any questions about applying from rutgers, feel free to post or drop a PM. The HPO can feed you lots of crap, but one thing you should take from them in your application year is GET EVERYTHING DONE EARLY. Listen to that, and they will help you tremendously.

MNova said:

Have any of you guys heard about what kind of curve Orgo 307 has?

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It isn't calculated until the end of the semester.

yeahh...my Total score for all three exams soo far is a 201 exactualy out of 300. The class average is about 165. Am I in good B+ range?

any ideas?

So I got my first A in college in expos!

Been studying very very hard for my Calc 151 final (that is tomorrow) and I'm feeling extremely good about it. So good actually!

icevermin said:

So I got my first A in college in expos!

Been studying very very hard for my Calc 151 final (that is tomorrow) and I'm feeling extremely good about it. So good actually!

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damn, you got an A in expos...thats quite impressive.

icevermin said:

So I got my first A in college in expos!

Been studying very very hard for my Calc 151 final (that is tomorrow) and I'm feeling extremely good about it. So good actually!

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Congrats on getting the A in expos, it's not the easiest thing to do. Expos was my only B when I was Rutgers...still have horrible flashbacks about that class, haha.

Mr.Patel said:

yeahh...my Total score for all three exams soo far is a 201 exactualy out of 300. The class average is about 165. Am I in good B+ range?

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Most likely, you're in that range. That's what I heard the curve normally comes out to be. I'm sitting right at the average . I need to do amazing on this final. I'm in Douglass right now... though it doesn't say much that I'm online.

damn im so freakin pissed!!! I have to retake expos since I got an EF!

wow..this thread does exist..lol


give some love to Rutgers Scarlet Raiders (4 those that dont know..NWK!!!)

long road of being an on-again off-again NOW on-again pre-med student...but trying to work REAL hard to make sure I get in!!!

Um hey guys... I kind of messed up bigtime my second semester. I got a freaking B in General Biology. Does it screw me over a lot? I'm kind of worried, I figured I'd work harder and compensate but it's gonna be harder now than it has ever been...

I'm also thinking about taking Principles of Organic Chemistry (actually I AM taking it lol)... I'm taking it with John Taylor. His rate my professors thing was pretty good so the class can't be THAT bad can it ?

Thanks

lol he just got in B in Gen Bio II and you're saying get an A in it.